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OKAY

[00:00:02]

ON THE CALL TO ORDER

[1. Call to Order and Committee Attendance]

THE MEETING OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE PARSON REC.

AND UM, THERE IT IS.

OKAY.

I WANNA START

[2. Approval of Minutes]

WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

THAT WAS OUR MAY 14TH MEETING.

EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A COPY OF IT.

DID ANYBODY NOT GET A COPY? FIRST OF ALL? OKAY.

UM, I NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN OR CHANGED.

YES, BILL GREEN MAKES A MOTION.

WE DO HAVE TO WRITE DOWN WHO MAKES THE MOTION.

SEVERAL.

UM, AND WE NEED A SECOND.

A SECOND.

OKAY.

JOE SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

AND THE NOTES WERE WONDERFUL.

SUE .

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALRIGHT, TODAY'S MINUTES ALL GO RIGHT THROUGH AND THE NEXT THING WE ARE GOING TO DO, THANK YOU.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

WE

[3. Public Comments]

HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TODAY.

UM, NUMBER ONE WE HAVE AVI, UH, RA RA AND HIS SON ARU ARU AND A ARE SPELL IT A-R-U-N-A-R-U-A-N-N-A-R-U-N-A AND RA GREAT.

WELCOME.

UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE JIM T WHO IS HERE.

AND, UM, JIM HAS A REQUEST TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND JIM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK, EITHER STAND, IF YOU WOULD STAND PLEASE.

JIM IS FROM THE, UM, JIM IS FROM THE SPRING FORD YOUTH BASEBALL LEAGUE.

BASKETBALL.

BASKETBALL, BASKETBALL LEAGUE.

AH, OKAY.

SO YES, THANKS.

MY NAME IS JIM T I'M THE PRESIDENT OF SPRING FORD YOUTH BASKETBALL.

OH, THANK YOU.

SO SORRY, JIM ON IT'S ANDREW.

YEP.

MY NAME IS JIM TY.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF SPRINGPORT YOUTH BASKETBALL.

I'D LIKE TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE, ESPECIALLY CHRIS WHO SET THIS UP.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SPRINGPORT YOUTH BASKETBALL, UH, LEMME JUST TAKE A QUICK MINUTE AND GIVE YOU SOME QUICK BACKGROUND.

WE ARE A VOLUNTEER RUN NONPROFIT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS.

WE PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OVER 1600 YOUTH, UH, IN THE SPRINGPORT AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PARTICIPATE IN BASKETBALL.

AS YOU KNOW, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT KEEPS GROWING, UH, BUT THE TEAMS CAN ONLY ALLOW SO MANY CHILDREN TO PARTICIPATE, UH, BOTH AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVELS ON THE SCHOOL TEAMS. SO WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, UH, STAKES TO, TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS TO PLAY BASKETBALL OR OTHER SPORTS FOR THAT MATTER.

UH, WHILE WE DO RUN YEAR ROUND, WE'RE IN OUR OFF SEASON.

WE ARE A WINTER SPORT THAT RUNS.

OUR SEASON IS OCTOBER TO MARCH, BUT WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF OFF SEASON.

UH, GIVEN WE'RE A WINTER SPORT, WE RELY HEAVILY ON THE USE OF INDOOR FACILITIES.

OUR PRIMARY FACILITIES THAT WE UTILIZE ARE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UH, I HEARD CHRIS MENTION THIS AT THE END OF THE LAST MEETING.

UH, THE GYM SPACE AT THE SCHOOL IS GETTING A LITTLE CONSTRICTED AND OUR COMMUNITY KEEPS GROWING, AS YOU KNOW, AND THE STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PLAYING, UH, KEEP GROWING.

WE'VE HAD TO ACTUALLY START THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, UH, PUTTING PLAYERS ON WAIT LIST AND, AND CUTTING, UH, SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR PLAYERS TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE WE JUST ARE ACTIVE MAX CAPACITY.

WE ALSO UTILIZE OTHER FACILITIES AROUND THE, WHETHER ARE REC CENTER, WHICH IS A GREAT FACILITY THAT UTILIZE, UM, IN FACT, UH, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE, WE, UH, HAD ABOUT $16,000 IN FEES THAT WENT TO THE TOWNSHIP, THE REC CENTER.

OF COURSE WE GET TO USE THAT FACILITY.

SO WHY AM I HERE TONIGHT, JUAN? I WANTED TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION AND WHAT WE DO.

UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, THAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY LEADERS KNOW ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION.

SECOND, FOR THE FACILITIES THAT WE UTILIZE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, THE, UH, THE FACILITY MANAGERS.

IF YOU'LL, IN FACT, IN THE PAST AS WE SIGNED AGREEMENTS TO RENT THE FACILITY, WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT, ARE THERE WAYS THAT WE COULD PERHAPS, UH, DONATE TO THE FACILITY TO HELP IMPROVE THE FACILITY? ONE THING, DIRECT CENTER PAY CLOSE ATTENTION, UH, TO LOOK AT THE BASKETBALL COURT THERE.

THERE'S INSUFFICIENT PADDING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BASKETBALL COURT, WHICH IS REALLY POTENTIAL

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HAZARD.

AND ARE WE OFFERED TO PAY FOR ALL NEW PADDING, UH, TO GET ALL THE DOOR KNOCKS COVERED, ALL THE CORNERS COVERED, UH, AND UPGRADE ALL THE, HAVING THE FACILITY.

WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OUR MEMBERS WOULD OBVIOUSLY GET BENEFIT FROM IT BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE FACILITY.

BUT IT ALSO GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF OUR, OUR ORGANIZATION'S MISSION.

I DON'T THINK WE SPOKE WITH THE RIGHT PERSON TO, TO MAKE THAT OFFER.

PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO HOPEFULLY, UH, FORM A PARTNERSHIP SOMEWHAT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HELP, UH, IMPROVE THAT FACILITY IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT.

AND THEN LASTLY, MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS WE ARE TALKING TO OTHER, UH, MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, I WANT TO MAKE THEM AWARE THAT OUR, OUR STRUGGLE ABOUT GETTING ACCESS TO FACILITIES IS REAL.

WE TALKED ABOUT BUILDING OUR OWN FACILITY THAT CHANGES THE WHOLE DYNAMIC OF OUR ORGANIZATION.

LIKE THEY SAID, WE'RE VOLUNTEER RUNNING AND TO HAVE A FACILITY, UH, WHERE I THINK WE COULD FUND IT IF WE PUT OUR MINDS TO IT.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA OPERATE FACILITY HERE NOW.

WE ONLY NEED IT FOR A FEW MONTHS.

SO HAVING LIKE THE REP, THE TOWNSHIP OWN IT AND MANAGE IT AND US, UH, PAY TO USE IT IS A BETTER MODEL FOR US.

BUT OF COURSE WE JUST NEED THAT MORE FACILITY.

SO THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IS IF AT ANY TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE, IN THE FUTURE YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT ADDING TO THE TOWNSHIP'S FACILITIES, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE COULD, UH, POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME INVOLVEMENT IN THE CONVERSATION.

'CAUSE I BELIEVE WE'D BE WILLING TO HELP FUND OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS THAT IT WOULD TAKE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE RECIPROCATION OF USAGE OF THE FACILITY, BUT WE COULD FIGURE OUT THE ECONOMICS OF HOW MUCH WE COULD PLEDGE OVER THE YEARS, UH, TO HELP FUND SUCH A FACILITY IN ORDER TO, TO GAIN, UH, ACCESS.

AND OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BRAND NEW BEAUTIFUL FACILITY AT REC CENTER IF YOU HAVE, UH, FACILITIES IN THE TOWNSHIP THAT PERHAPS AREN'T BEING UTILIZED.

UH, WE'VE EVEN LOOKED AT SOME OF THE VACANT STORES THAT EXIST IN THE AREA AND TRYING TO RETROFIT THEM OUT TO PUT IN JUST TO GET EXTRA PRACTICE SPACE FOR OUR PLAYERS.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY A, A BA A FULL BASKETBALL COURT.

JUST GETTING EXTRA PRACTICE SPACE WILL BE HELPFUL.

AND OF COURSE WE'D ALSO LIKE TO SIDE MORE THAN WE DO TODAY, BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO BALANCE THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS IN OUR ORGANIZATION.

SO THAT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M HERE TODAY.

I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK.

UH, SO HOPEFULLY AS YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR FUTURE PLANS, YOU'LL UH, CONSIDER AT LEAST, UH, SPEAKING TO US AND GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP MOVE BOTH OUR ORGANIZATION AND THE COMMUNITY FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ECHO, ECHO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR ALL SUPPORT.

THE BASKETBALL.

MY SON HAS BEEN VERY, YOU KNOW, BASKETBALL AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A STRUGGLE.

IT'S AMAZING JOB YEAR.

UH, YEAH, I BE RISING SOCCER.

UM, AND I, I'VE BEEN PLAYING BASKETBALL MY WHOLE LIFE AND I CAN DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT.

DREAM HAS BEEN REAL STRUGGLE.

I'VE HAD TO WAKE UP AT VERY ODD TIMES JUST TO GET LIKE A OPEN AT, AT CERTAIN PLACE.

LIKE A WHY IN THE REC CENTER.

JIM, WOULD YOU BE LOOKING FOR A MULTI-USE FACILITY OR WOULD IT BE SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO BASKETBALL? OBVIOUSLY BASKETBALL IS OUR, OUR PRIMARY USAGE.

YEAH.

BUT, UM, I MEAN THE REC CENTER, I CONSIDER THAT ID, YEAH.

UH, USAGE FACILITY.

THE MORE COURTS WE CAN GET, THE BETTER.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE INTERESTED IN ANY, ANY.

AND UH, LIKE I SAID, EVEN IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WASN'T EQUIPPED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, OLDER COMPETITIVE GAMES, JUST EXTRA PRACTICE DAYS OR HOOPS IN AN INDOOR FACILITY WOULD BE A GODSEND FOR US.

BUT YEAH, THE IDEAL THING FOR US IS THAT THE I OF DELIBERATE TOWNSHIP AND STUFF, THINKING THAT, THINK LOOKING AT BUILDING A MODEL SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU BUILT HERE, BECAUSE OUR REC CENTER IS SO MUCH NICER THAN THE OTHER, BECOME A RESIDENT BY THE WAY.

VERY OF THAT REC CENTER.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE TALKED TO OTHER, OTHER FOLKS ABOUT MAYBE BUILDING A TWO OR THREE CORE FACILITY THAT HAD A GYM OR A TRACK IN IT.

AND THIS WAY YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, RUNNING ORGANIZATIONS AND MAYBE HAVE A HEALTHY KIDS RUNNING SERIES THAT, THAT WILL RUNS US OUTSIDE HERE.

BUT I THINK THEY WOULD BE

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LOOKING FOR INDOOR STUFF.

SO ANYTHING, SO FOR OUR NEEDS, WE'RE FOCUSED ON BASKETBALL, BUT WE'RE NOT PARTICULAR ABOUT THE TYPE OF FACILITY.

ALL GREAT.

JIM, ARE YOU TRYING TO STAY WITHIN, UM, THE SPRINGBOARD AREA SCHOOL SYSTEM IN ORDER TO, DO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BY REGULATION OR? NO, WE'RE NOT AFFILIATED, AFFILIATED WITH THE SCHOOL IN ANY WAY.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT'S OUR FOOTPRINT.

THAT'S WHERE WE, WE RESTRICT PARTICIPATION ARE LEAD TO STUDENTS OF, OR RESIDENTS OF, OF THE SPRING FORD SCHOOL DISTRICT.

OKAY.

AND THEN IF THERE'S STILL SPACE AVAILABLE, WE ALLOW RESIDENTS, UH, FURTHER FIELD TO PLAY.

BUT WE'RE MAXED OUT WITH THE SPRING STUDENTS.

SO WE PLAY IN THE OAKS GYM, THE OAKS ELEMENTARY, AND WE GO ALL THE WAY UP TO EVANS AND LIMERICK.

OH WOW.

UH, AND WE'VE EVEN LOOKED AT GYMS AND POTSTOWN AND WE LOOKED AT GYMS AND LIKE WE ARE LOOKING FOR SPACE WHEREVER WE, WHEREVER WE CAN GET.

BUT IDEALLY FOR US HAVING IT SOMEWHERE IN THE SPRING COURT AND SCHOOL DISTRICT FOOTPRINT WOULD BE, WOULD BE GREAT.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE PHOENIX VILLAGE JUST OPENED UP THEIR NEW COMMUNITY CENTER AND THEY HAVE MUCH MORE COURTS THAN WE DO INSIDE.

SO I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS SOMEWHERE YOU HAD WE WERE, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING WITH 'EM.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE'VE TALKED TO THE Y YEAH.

EVERY, ANYTIME THERE'S A COURT, WHETHER IT BE WITH A CHURCH OR RIGHT GROUP, WE WE'RE, WE SPOKEN TO THEM AT LEAST THE ONES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT.

I THINK WE KNOW ABOUT MOST OF THEM.

BUT, UH, HAVING SOMEWHAT, LIKE, SOMEWHAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SAY IS OUR OWN FACILITY THAT WE HELP FUND WOULD BE A GREAT SOLUTION FOR US BECAUSE WE WANNA MANAGE OUR OWN FACILITY.

RIGHT.

SO JUST IN CONCLUSION, YOU'RE LOOKING FIRST OF ALL TO CREATE A PARTNERSHIP WITH ONE OF THE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, ONE OF THE LOCAL FACILITIES.

UM, THE SECOND IS YOU'RE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO DO PADDING AT THE UPPER PROVIDENCE.

THAT, THAT WAS JUST NICE.

SO EVERY FACILITY WE UTILIZE, WE'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM EACH YEAR AND SAY, HOW DID IT WORK? US USING THE FACILITY, YOU KNOW, DID, DID WE MEET YOUR NEEDS? AND VICE VERSA.

AND WE DONATED MONEY IN THE SPRING COURT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PUT IN NEW SCOREBOARDS FOR SOME OF THE OLDER GYMS THAT HAD SOME REALLY OUTDATED EQUIPMENT.

YEAH.

AND WE'VE TALKED TO THE Y ABOUT THINGS WE CAN DONATE TO THEM.

WE'D LOVE TO DONATE WHATEVER YOUR NEEDS ARE.

I WAS GONNA SAY I WOULD BE THAT PERSON.

SO , IF YOU, UM, BETWEEN LIKE THE THREE OF US OR ANYTHING, WE CAN SIT DOWN.

YOU WORK WITH BOB DIRECTLY ON RENTING THE SPACE, CORRECT? YEAH, WE WORK FROM BOB DIRECTLY.

YEP.

YEAH, SO THAT WOULD JUST BE A CONVERSATION BETWEEN, UM, BETWEEN US AND THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

SO EVERY YEAR DURING THE OFF SEASON, WE PLAN OUR BUDGET AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE INVESTMENTS.

AND SO LET'S JUST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY YOU WANTED TO DO THE PADDING YOU WANNA DO, SO LET'S SAY YOU THOUGHT PADDING WAS A GREAT IDEA.

WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO GET AN ESTIMATE FROM, YOU KNOW, A COMPANY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO BUSINESS WITH AND WE SURE.

WE'D BE ABLE TO OFFSET HOPEFULLY THE MAJORITY IF NOT ALL OF THAT COST.

OKAY.

YEAH, I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN THAT.

WONDERFUL.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

AND THEN THE THIRD THING WAS A FACILITY.

YEAH, THE BIT MORE COURT SPACES IS OUR BIGGEST NEED.

THE COURTS THAT WE UTILIZE, WE'D LOVE TO HELP GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND HELP IMPROVE IT AND MAINTAIN IT, LIKE I SAID WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS.

BUT THE BIGGEST, MOST DIRE NEED WE HAVE NOW IS TO FIND MORE GYM SPACE.

OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TURN MORE KIDS AWAY, WHICH WE HATE TO DO.

SO ARE YOU WORKING OR THE CHURCHES? YEAH, THERE'S A FEW THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO.

THE CHURCHES ARE, UM, LESS FLEXIBLE TO WORK WITH.

THEY EITHER HAVE, LIKE ST.

ELEANOR'S HAS A GYM, UH, AND CYO TEAM.

UH, A LOT OF IT IS ABOUT NOT WANTING TO HAVE STAFF THERE WHILE WE'RE THERE TO MANAGE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO CONSIDERED A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION.

RIGHT.

WHEREAS THE REC CENTER, I THINK YOU'RE WILLING TO, TO PAY THE STAFF PERSON TO BE THERE WHEN WE'RE THERE.

IT HELPS PART OF THE RENTAL COST.

UH, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE CHURCHES DON'T WANT TO PUT SOMEBODY THERE FROM EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TILL SIX O'CLOCK, YOU KNOW, ON A SATURDAY ALL DAY BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO DO THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'D OFFER TO PAY TO DO THAT.

BUT IT'S JUST, IT DOESN'T FIT THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IN THOSE CASES.

BUT ON OCCASION WE HAVE USED THAT WHEN WE WERE, ESPECIALLY THE LIMIT WHEN WE USE WEEKENDS BECAUSE OF SNOW AND THE SCHOOL BEING CLOSED, WE THEN HAVE TO EITHER CANCEL GAMES AND SHORTENED SEASON OR GET DESPERATE AND TRY TO FIND EXTRA SPACE TO MAKE NO TIME.

AND THE, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE REC CENTER BEEN GREAT DURING THE BAD WEATHER, YOU KNOW, GETTING SNOW CLEARED TIMELY.

AND I THINK WE DO A GREAT JOB AS WELL TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE COURT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO SALT OR ON THE COURT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THAT FLOOR TO BE A TIP TOP SHAPE JUST LIKE YOU DO.

SURE.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

COMING.

UM, YOU CAN BRING IT DOWN HERE THAT WAY IN CASE

[00:15:01]

FOR SOME REASON CAN'T HEAR US.

ALRIGHT.

WE'LL

[4. Old Business (Part 1 of 2)]

FLIP TO OUR, UM, OLD BUSINESS NEXT.

AND THE FIRST WAS THAT SADLY WE AGAIN HAD TO CANCEL JEFF GAINES DUE TO THE WEATHER.

THAT WAS OUR, OUR EVENING MUSICAL, UM, FAIL THIS TIME.

UNFORTUNATELY, HOPEFULLY THROUGH THIS POINT ON WE WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE, BUT HE HAS NOW BEEN CANCELED AS OPPOSED TO POSTPONED.

RIGHT.

SO WE WILL LOOK TOWARD, UM, HOPEFULLY GETTING HIM BACK IN FOR NEXT YEAR.

I JUST WANT TO INTERJECT, UM, HAVE ALL OF YOU BEEN RECEIVING THE NEWSLETTER AT, AT YOUR HOME? AND ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS AN OPTION IN HERE TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE IT JUST ONLINE.

SO IS THAT THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WANT TO GO IN? WE CONTINUE, I BELIEVE ONE OR TWO A YEAR IN PAPER, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE TOWARDS THAT ELECTRONIC NEWSLETTER OPTION.

RIGHT.

AND THIS GET MORE OUT THAT WAY.

AND THIS IS JUST, IT'S A REALLY NICE, UH, NEWSLETTER FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO JUST MAKE SURE IF YOU ARE GETTING A PAPER, THERE'S A QR CODE IN THERE SO THAT YOU CAN, UH, SWITCH THAT OVER.

UH, THE NEXT THING ON OUR OLD BUSINESS IS THE REVIEW OF BOARD VERSUS COMMITTEE.

I'M GONNA FLIP THAT OVER TO NEW BUSINESS SINCE YES, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AS OLD AS BUSINESS PREVIOUSLY.

WE HAVEN'T GONE INTO THE FULL-FLEDGED DISCUSSION.

SO LET'S GET THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON HERE AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK, WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT.

SUE, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE UPDATE ON CAMP THIS YEAR? SURE.

SO CAMP IS UNDERWAY.

UM, TWO CAMPS STARTED THIS PRE THIS PAST MONDAY.

UM, WE HAVE SKATEBOARD CAMP AND WE ALSO HAVE A GROUP MATH SCIENCE OUT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO THOSE ARE BOTH DOING WELL, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

EVERYBODY HAD END OF YEAR AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

SO WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THIS WEEK WAS COVERED, BUT PB IS STILL IN SCHOOL UNTIL TOMORROW, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY IN THIS WEEK AGAIN, BUT WE, WE LIKE TO OFFER IT TO EVERYBODY JUST IN CASE ANYTHING DOES CHANGE.

UM, AND THEN CAMP BLACKROCK STARTS FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING.

SO WE HAVE A QUICK TRANSITION FROM CAR SHOW ALL DAY SUNDAY TO CAMP FIRST THING ON MONDAY MORNING.

UM, THIS ONE IS, I BELIEVE 90% IF NOT MORE FULL.

SO WE ACTUALLY ARE REACHING THAT A HUNDRED KID NUMBER THAT WE WERE HOPEFUL FOR.

UM, AND THAT GOES, UM, THAT'S OUR SIX WEEKS.

WE HAVE THE ONE WEEK OPTION FOR SIX WEEKS THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE.

AND THE ONLY WEEK WE, WE HAVE OFFICE WORTH DIGITAL I WEEK, WE GIVE OUR ALL OF OUR CAMPS OFF THAT WEEK.

UM, BUT WHILE BLACKROCK IS RUNNING, WE ALSO HAVE OUR SECONDARY, UM, SPECIALTY CAMPS THAT RUN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT.

AND THEY'RE ALL BEING HELD AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR THE AMPHITHEATER.

SO WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON IN THE SUMMER, BUT THEY'RE ALL DOING VERY GOOD.

THEY'RE DOING WELL THIS YEAR.

RAINY DAYS.

ARE YOU JUST UNDER THE PAVILION? MM UM, SOMETIMES.

SO, UM, WE USE THIS BEAUTIFUL ROOM HERE FOR OUR SUMMER CAMP WHEN IT RAINS.

SO AS LONG AS THEY, THE UNFOR ABOUT USING THIS ROOM IS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE VERY QUIET.

WE ARE HOLDING BUSINESS RIGHT ACROSS THE WAY.

UM, SO WHEN THEY'RE IN HERE, THEY'RE USUALLY DOING QUIET LIKE BOARD GAMES, THEY'RE WATCHING A MOVIE, THERE'S NO FOOD OR DRINK IN HERE.

SO THAT MAKES THINGS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING.

BUT WE ALSO USE THE BREAK ROOM DOWNSTAIRS.

SO WE HAVE ARTS AND CRAFTS DOWN THERE, UM, IN DIFFERENT LIKE MESSY ACTIVITIES THAT THEY CAN DO ON THERE THAT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LOUDER, BUT THAT IS RIGHT BELOW MANAGEMENT'S OFFICES.

SO WE TRY, BUT WE DO COME IN HERE OR IF IT'S JUST A LIGHT RAIN, WE JUST LEAVE THE KIDS OUTSIDE.

SO YOU'RE HOPING FOR NO RAIN? YES.

SO MONDAY AND TUESDAY.

SO, SO WE'LL SEE.

UM, WE ARE LOOKING IN 2026 TO PARTNER WITH OAK ELEMENTARY, UM, TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE CAMP DOWN THE STREET.

HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT A DONE DEAL IN ANY WAY.

IT IS JUST BEGINNING CONVERSATIONS TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THEY PARTNER WITH OTHER TOWNSHIPS TO OFFER CAMPS IN THEIR SITE.

IF WE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION IN THE FUTURE AND THEY DO CHARGE US TO USE THAT SPACE, OUR VERY INEXPENSIVE SUMMER CAMP MODEL WILL CHANGE.

SO IT'S KIND OF, WE'RE GONNA TEST THE WATERS WITH PARENTS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, UM, WITH AN END OF YEAR PHYSICAL SURVEY AND JUST SAY LIKE, IF THIS WERE TO HAPPEN AND THIS WHAT YOU WANT, AND IF SO, ARE YOU OKAY TO PAY MORE EVERY WEEK PER CAMPER? SO WE'RE KIND OF GONNA TEST, TEST THE WATERS AND SEE IF OUR OUTDOOR METHOD OF CAMP IS WORKING AND PARENTS ARE THRILLED WITH IT AND THEY'RE GOOD, OR IF THEY NEED US TO MOVE TO A BIGGER INDOOR LOCATION.

OKAY.

UM, THE NEXT WAS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT

[00:20:01]

THE BASEBALL FIELD THAT WE HAD IN THE LAST MEETING.

YES.

CHRIS AND I AND BOB MEET YOU WILL BE MEETING.

YEAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

ABOUT THE BASEBALL.

I DON'T KNOW, WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT AFTER THE MEETING.

, WE STILL HAVE TO, SO NO, WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AND IT'S A GOOD TIME TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CHANGE ALL THE LITERATURE AND ALL OUR PACKETS, UM, BY NOVEMBER.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHEN WE CHANGE OUR FEE STRUCTURES AND ANY LITERATURE THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE IN OUR, IN THOSE.

SO FOR ANYBODY THAT MISSED THE LAST MEETING, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS, ALTHOUGH THE COURTS ARE RESERVED, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING THE GAME WHEN THE TEAMS GET THERE WHO WILL NOT END THEIR GAMES.

AND LAST, UH, TIME CHRIS WAS THERE, THEY, THEY WENT 35 MINUTES OVER, ABOUT 35 MINUTES OVER NOT GETTING OFF THE FIELD.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE.

SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU GUYS HAVE TO FIGURE OUT BEST WAY TO MAKE THAT, UM, WORKABLE.

RIGHT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT ABOUT, I DUNNO IF IT'S PERFECT, TALK BACK NOW, BUT JUST SURE.

IS IT, UM, SO AS PART OF THE GOOGLE DRIVE IS THE CALENDAR THAT SHOWS FACILITY RENTALS, I ASSUME THAT'S, THAT'S PRIVATE FOR, SO WE CAN SEE IT ON THE MANAGEMENT SIDE OF THE MYRE SYSTEM OR SOFTWARE.

SO IT'S ON THAT YOU CAN SEE IT AS PUBLIC AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S RENTED AND IT JUST SAYS PRIVATE.

LIKE WE DON'T GIVE AWAY CONTACT INFORMATION OR ANYTHING.

OKAY.

SO IT DOES STATE, IF ANYONE WERE TO GO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, UM, IT WOULD SHOW THAT THOSE HOURS ARE RESERVED.

OKAY.

THAT'S, YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, UNDER NEW

[5. New Business]

BUSINESS ON, UM, MONDAY, JUNE 16TH, KEN AND I ARE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO FURTHER THE DISCUSSION AND HOPEFULLY A DECISION ON, UH, BIRD TOWN, THE BIRD TOWN PROGRAM HERE IN, UH, IN UPPER PROVIDENCE.

I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DO QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH ON IT AND IT, IT'S SAD AND IT'S HAPPY, IT'S SAD HOW MUCH WE'VE LOST AS FAR AS THE HABITATS FOR THE BIRDS, THE SAFETY FOR THE BIRDS, THE AMOUNT OF BIRDS THAT ARE, UH, KILLED, FLYING INTO WINDOWS, WHICH CAN BE AVOIDED OR IT CAN BE REDUCED.

UM, AND WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO PARTNER.

THE FUN THING THAT I HAVE FOUND THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE ALSO SINCE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, ARE ALL THE TOWNS THAT YOU DRIVE INTO.

THAT'S, THAT THERE'S A BIRD TOWN SIGN.

YEAH, I'VE SEEN THEM BEFORE, BUT I NEVER KNEW WHAT THEY WERE.

MM-HMM .

AND WE WERE OUT IN WESTERN PA A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I DROVE INTO A TOWN AND THERE WAS THE BIRD TOWN, THE BIRD TOWN SIGN.

SO IT'S JUST FUN TO LOOK FOR.

SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT MEETING ON NEXT MONDAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, THE NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS PARK WATCH.

SO I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT TODAY.

I'M HOPING IT GOT MORE FILLED IN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYBODY FOR UH, FOR FILLING IT IN.

LILY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW ALSO YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH YOURS ON THIS SIDE OF THE PARK, BUT IT ALSO YEP.

THAT SIDE TOO INCLUDES THE OTHER PARK AS WELL AND IT COULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

THIS IS OUR LARGEST FACILITY.

UM, SO THAT ONE WAS DONE, BUT UM, BILL, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GO TO DO THAT.

THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

WHAT'S THAT? ? ZERO PEOPLE.

ZERO PEOPLE AT ANDERSON.

DID YOU GO AT LIKE 2:00 AM ? I WENT AT 1:26 PM I SEE THAT .

THAT'S CRAZY.

THERE WAS ONE PERSON EATING LUNCH.

I DON'T BOTHER BUT I THINK, I THINK IT WENT, UM, INSIDE THE BUILDING THOUGH.

THAT SPOKE, UH, DURING .

OH GREAT.

.

I DID DO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT ALL THE GROUND.

I DID TWO PARTS.

SO I THOUGHT ALL THE GROUNDS WERE AWESOME, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE RAIN WE HAVE HAD THAT I WAS VERY IMPRESSED THERE WAS ANY TRASH.

ALL THE TRASH CANS WERE GREAT.

ALL THE FACILITIES WERE CLEAN, BATHROOM WERE CLEAN.

UM, WATER FOUNTAIN WAS WORKING.

EVERYTHING LOOKED GREAT.

GOOD.

SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THEY'RE DOING AN AWESOME JOB.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S NOT EASY.

I'LL TAKE IT.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND UP AT BLACKROCK OF COURSE THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTIVITIES, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE DAY I WAS, THERE WAS THREAT TO RAIN FOR THE AFTERNOON.

SO ANYBODY THAT WAS ABLE WANTED TO GET THERE IN THE MORNING, UM, EVERYTHING LOOKED GOOD.

THE SAME AS BILL

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IS SAYING, THE THE LAWNS WERE BEAUTIFUL.

THE, THE MINIMAL, MINIMAL TRASH AROUND.

THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS THAT I SPOKE WITH.

SOME WITH THEIR GRANDCHILDREN, SOME WITH THEIR KIDS.

EVERYTHING JUST LOOKED REALLY JUST, JUST REALLY GOOD THERE.

THE ONE BIG COMMENT OF COURSE WAS SHADE.

PEOPLE WOULD LIKE MORE SHADE, UM, AND THEY WANT MORE TREES.

I'M LIKE, WELL ALONG WITH MORE TREES COME, SHADE COMES A LOT OF YEARS.

SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF IT, THAT THESE ARE THE COMMENTS PEOPLE ARE GONNA MAKE, BUT PEOPLE ARE VERY WILLING TO TO TALK TO YOU AND, AND HAVE FUN.

UM, AND ROBBIE WAS JUST ASKING A QUESTION.

NO, NOT , .

SORRY.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, WAS ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT BEING ABLE TO, TO DO THE UM, PARK WATCH AND I TOLD HER WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, THAT YOU ARE WELCOME TO HOP ON WITH ANY OF US WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A PARK.

UM, YOU'LL GET A LIST OF EMAIL ADDRESSES AND UH, PHONE NUMBERS AS WELL.

SO IF THERE'S A PARK THAT YOU WANT TO COME TO, WE WOULD NOT SEND YOU OUT THERE ON YOUR OWN, BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN AND BE THERE WITH UH, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO BE SENDING UM, CAN YOU SEND ME YOUR PARENTS' EMAIL ADDRESS? I NEED TO SEND THEM A WAFER.

YEAH, YEAH.

NOT FOR JUST YOUR CLEARANCES, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS.

YEAH, THEY'RE AWARE.

I TOTALLY KNOW, BUT OKAY.

TO COVER MY, I JUST NEED AND DOES SHE NEED TO GET A, GET CLEARANCES IF SHE'S UNDER, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S UNDER 18.

NO.

I BELIEVE FOR THIS I HAVE TO TALK TO OUR NEW HR REP, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS WE HAVE TO UM, IT WOULD BE MORE SO, UM, LIKE ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS THAT COME FROM SPRING FORWARD TO DO FALL, THEY DO FACE BATH AND KIDS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

LIKE WE DON'T REQUIRE THAT FOR THAT SPECIFIC, FOR THAT AGE GROUP.

I WAS WONDERING.

YEAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

BUT I'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR DOING THAT.

IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF, UH, THE PARKS OF REC.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTED TO COMMENT, UH, ON THEIR, ON THEIR PART.

UM, TWO THINGS I WANT TO ADD.

REMEMBER THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING.

WE DON'T HAVE MEETINGS JULY AND AUGUST.

WE'LL, WE'LL MEET AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER, BUT PARK WATCH CONTINUES.

SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE THEIR MAINTENANCE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THESE DOCUMENTS.

THEY'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT.

WE HAD AN INTERESTING EXPERIENCE WITH JOE BECAUSE THE RIVER CREST TRAIL IS NOT YET MARKED AS FAR AS WHERE IT IS.

SO HE SENT ME AN EMAIL.

I FINALLY DECIDED TO CALL 'EM TO EXPLAIN.

SO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO ON THE RIVER CREST TRAIL, ARE THEY BEST PARKING IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? PARKING LOT? NO, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NOT PUBLIC FOR PARKING.

UM, WE PUT THAT CROSSWALK INTO PEOPLE PARK HERE, THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING EITHER ONE OF THE PARKING LOTS IN FRONT HERE OR THE BIG ONE ACROSS THE WAY.

AND THEN THEY USE THE CROSSWALK.

WE HAVE A TRAIL THAT TAKES YOU RIGHT, THE CROSSWALK AND THEN RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD.

THAT'S WHAT I DO.

OKAY, SO PARKING THIS BET BLACKROCK IS NOT .

YEAH.

SO GO AHEAD.

LET'S GET JOE'S, LET'S GET YOUR, EVERYTHING REALLY GOOD.

UM, WITH THE WHOLE, UM, WHOLE TRAIL, I MET A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.

THEY WERE VERY POSITIVE.

ONE COMMENT, I HAD KNOW ONE GUY'S BEEN WALKING ON THE TRAIL FOR YEARS AND HE SAID IT'S ALWAYS BEEN GREAT.

HE REALLY LIKES IT.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD.

SO A GOOD AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

THE CARS WERE LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO YOU TOO.

SO IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO SOME OTHER PLACES.

UM, HOMEOWNERS I THINK MORE OR LESS IT'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS FROM RIVER CRE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DRIVING A CAR, GUESS HAVE TO HAVE THE CODE TO GET IN RIGHT.

AND YOU JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS THE OTHER RIGHT.

TRAILS ARE.

UM, HOMEOWNER ARE HAPPY.

GO DOWN A LITTLE MORE.

SO, SORRY.

I SAID JUST ONE THING.

SO SPEAKING OF LIKE GOING FROM HERE ACROSS MM-HMM .

SO OVER RIGHT HERE WE HAVE THE FLASHING GREEN LIGHTS, RED LIGHTS, WHATEVER.

IT'S PEOPLE WERE LIKE WAVING AT ME THROUGH THE UH, CROSS.

I GO AND TRY TO GET ACROSS ON THE, UH, THE CROSSWALK.

THEY WOULDN'T EVEN, SO THERE'S TWO THINGS THERE.

ONE IS YOU HAVE THE FLASHING LIGHTS, RIGHT? SO YOU SHOULD REALIZE THAT THAT'S LIKE CAUTION STOP.

SECOND, IF THERE WERE NO LIKES OR ANYTHING, IT'S A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK.

I BELIEVE THE STATE LAW YOU HAVE TO GIVE YIELD TO HAPPENED.

SO THAT WAS LIKE PRETTY, AND I WAS IN THE CROSSWALK.

I WASN'T LIKE ON THE OF TRYING TO WALK IN.

I ACTUALLY WAS THERE.

AND THEN THINKING ABOUT THAT, UM, JUST WHEN I WAS HERE AND I WAS GOING THAT WAY, LIKE I GUESS, UH, TOWARD OAK.

I NOTICED THAT YOU WERE DRIVING ON BLACK ROCK THERE, THE FLASH LIGHTS AND YOU'RE, IF SOMEONE'S BEHIND ME

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AND YOU MIGHT NOT EXACTLY SEE THE LIGHTS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A CROSSWALK.

MM-HMM .

YOU SHOULD KNOW.

ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING.

THANK YOU.

DID ANYBODY ELSE WANNA ADD ANYTHING? YEAH, PLENTY OF THAT.

AND I LOVE MY LABRADORS BUT I DON'T, SO YEAH.

NO, THEY DO THOUGH.

.

UM, I STILL WILL GO THERE AND, AND AND GREAT AND BACKFILL IT IN.

SO, OKAY.

JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW, WE DID CHANGE THE SIZE OF THE DOG PARK.

SO THE LARGE DOG PARK SECTION, WE FINALLY GOT THE GRASS TO WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE.

SO WE SWITCHED THE SIDES.

WE DO THAT, IT'S LIKE A CROP ROTATION FOR US.

SO AS SOON AS THE OTHER SIDE GETS BACK TO ITS FULLEST AND IT, THE HOLES ARE FILLED IN, DOGS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO DIG IN THE DOG PARK.

THAT'S A HOMEOWNER, THAT'S A DOG OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO STOP THEM FROM DOING IT AND FILL IT IN.

WE DID GO DOWN LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE IT WAS THURSDAY.

UM, WE DID GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT IT.

SO JOSH'S CREW WENT DOWN WITH PHIL TO FILL ALL THE HOLES IN SO IT WASN'T AN ANKLE BREAKER.

UM, BUT THEY DID THEN BE, THEY WERE ABLE TO SWITCH THE SIDE.

SO YOU GUYS, WE TRIED TO ADVERTISE THAT PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY ONE SIDE VERSUS THE OTHER PART OF THAT TOO.

THE TRAIL AND THE LIKE.

YOU WANT TO SEE PEOPLE, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE BATHROOM CLUB.

OH YEAH.

ANYTHING.

THAT WHOLE ENTIRE THING IS OURS OUTSIDE OF THE SRT TRAIL.

OH, THAT'S NOT THE PARKING LOT.

YEAH.

THE TRAIL ISN'T OURS BUT THE PARKING LOT, THE RESTROOM FACILITY IS OURS.

UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KNOW, UM, WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR BUDGET TIME TO SEE IF IT'S WORTH FIXING THE PARKING LOT FOR THE DOG PARK AS WELL.

SO FEEDBACK ON DOG PARK PARKING LOT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, I KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE PAVED.

THERE'S SOME FLOODING ISSUES DOWN THERE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S NOT.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO, IF THERE'S OPTIONS FOR US TO FIX IT, I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT THE PUBLIC THAT USES IT HAS TO SAY.

SO IS THE PARKING LOT, THAT'S WHERE THE TRAIL IS BY THE BATHROOM.

OH, IT'S, WHICH ONE IS NOT, ARE THERE TWO SEPARATE PARKING LOTS? OH YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND WHEN YOU GO INTO THE PAR, THE, THE BIG DOG PARK IS ON THE RIGHT AND THE LITTLE DOG PARK, LITTLE DOGS PLAY AREAS.

IT A LITTLE BIG ON THE LEFT.

ON THE LEFT.

ALRIGHT SUE, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR NEXT EVENTS? YES.

SO, UM, ROB IS ON SUNDAY.

UM, WE ARE LAST MINUTE PREPARATIONS.

WE'VE HAD SOME LAST MINUTE BASKET, BASKET RAFFLE DONATIONS IN.

SO WE'RE CREATING THE BASKETS TOMORROW.

WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING, WE GENERALLY HAVE 16 OR 20 BASKETS.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THE BASKETS BIGGER AND DO MORE LIKE 10.

SO THAT'S OUR GOAL FOR THIS YEAR.

UM, WE ARE DOING THE 50 50 RAFFLES.

SO I'LL HAVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE WALKING AROUND THE CAR SHOWS SELLING THE 50 50 RAFFLES.

UM, WE ARE STILL FOR THIS EVENT, USING THE OLD QUEST BUILDING FOR SPECTATOR PARKING.

SO ALL SPECTATORS, IF THEY'RE COMING IN TO USE THE PARK, I HAVE THE PARK TECHNICALLY SHUT DOWN.

IF PEOPLE CHOOSE TO GO TO PARK AT QUEST AND WALK UP TO USE THE PLAYGROUND OR THE TENNIS COURT OR THE BASKETBALL COURT, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THEM.

BUT THEY CANNOT GET IN TO THE A TOWNSHIP GROUND ANY OTHER WAY.

UM, WE DO HAVE GOLF CART SHUTTLES THAT WOULD BE PARKED AT QUEST TO DRIVE PEOPLE UP TO THE LOCATION.

UM, JUDGING, UM, WE HAVE REGISTRATION OPENING AT NINE THAT MORNING AND UM, THE CAR SHOW BEGINS AT 10.

SO JUDGES START WALKING AROUND BY 10.

WE DUE TO THE UM, AMOUNT OF CARS THAT ARE COMING IN EVERY YEAR, THERE WAS ABOUT 215 LAST YEAR.

SO WITH ALL THOSE NEW CARS WE DID HAVE TO MAKE A CUTOFF FOR JUDGING.

SO IF THE CAR THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE JUDGED IS NOT HERE BY NOON, IT WILL NOT BE JUDGED.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE OR THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, WE'RE HOPING EVERYBODY GOT THAT MEMO AND EVERYBODY'S HERE EARLY.

WE MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT LAST YEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO MOVING FORWARD.

AND PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE AT 8:00 AM READY TO GO.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT.

SO, UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT WE HAVE GENEROUS DONATIONS FROM WAWA.

THEY WILL BE PROVIDING FREE COFFEE AND DONUTS AND BANANAS INSIDE.

UM, REGISTRATION AREA, WHICH IS IN HERE.

UM, THE BASKET RAFFLES WILL BE IN HERE AND REGISTRATION DATA WILL ALSO BE TAKEN PLACE IN HERE.

OUTSIDE THIS BUILDING, WE HAVE DJ, WE HAVE OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES AS WELL AS THE TOWNSHIP TABLE.

UM, WE WILL BE SELLING PRETZELS AND HANDING OUT FREE POPCORN FROM THE OAK CINEMA DOWN AT THE EXPO CENTER.

UM, WE HAVE DOG BITES.

UM, HOT DOG VENDOR WILL BE HERE SELLING HOT DOGS AND FRESH LEMONADE.

AND THAT WAS ALWAYS TOM'S WANT WAS JUST A HOT DOG PART AND I'M DOING IT NOW.

, HOW MANY CARS HAVE REGISTERED?

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WE HAVE TRIP THE AMOUNT THAT PRE-REGISTERED.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT 30 ODD CARS REGISTERED, WHICH IS RARE FOR US.

USUALLY WE'RE IN MAYBE 10.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HEARING ABOUT IT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A SPOT WHEN THEY GET HERE.

SO THAT'S BEEN AWESOME.

WE USUALLY HAVE 90% OF REGISTRATIONS THAT MORNING.

SO I HAVE FOUR OR FIVE STAFF DOING DAY UP REGISTRATIONS IN HERE.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK, IS THERE A MAX NUMBER THAT YOU'LL ACCEPT? WE'LL JUST PUT THOSE.

YOU HAVE UNTIL NOON.

WHAT'S THAT? WE HAVE UNTIL NOON.

WE CAN'T, WE DON'T LIKE TO PUT OUT A MAX NUMBER.

OKAY.

PURCHASE PEOPLE AWAY.

SO WE WILL, IF WE DO HAVE AN ONS SLEW OF CARS THAT COME IN AND WE CAN'T FIT THEM WHERE WE NORMALLY DO, WE DO HAVE BACKUP PARKING READY TO ROLL OUT THAT ACTUALLY, WHICH IS WHY THE WHOLE PLACE IS SHUT DOWN.

SO WE'LL HAVE 'EM PARK LIKE UP ON THE DRIVEWAY UP AT THE TENNIS COURT BY THE FUEL STATION NEXT TO THE PLAYGROUND.

WE'LL HAVE THEM EVERYWHERE AND ANYWHERE WE CAN SEND THEM.

SO WE WON'T TURN ANYBODY AWAY UNLESS YOU COME AT 1201.

WE SHOULD PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE.

SO STAFF THAT ARE WORKING THAT DAY, YOU ARE GONNA COME IN THE SKATE PARK ENTRANCE AND YOU'RE GONNA GO TO PUBLIC WORKS.

SO, UM, YOU JUST HAVE TO TELL THEM YOU'LL HAVE YOUR STAFF SHIRTS ON IN SOME CAPACITY.

ANYWAY.

THE GUYS WILL KNOW WHAT THAT LOGO MEANS.

UM, I'VE SENT MY LOGISTICS OUT TO EVERYBODY SO EVERYBODY ALSO KNOWS WHO'S WORKING THAT DAY.

UM, YOU'LL BE PARKING AT PUBLIC WORKS AND THE WAY THAT WE DO IT IS THAT THERE IS, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THAT WOULD BE WAY EASIER THAN ME ASSUME WHAT COLOR SHIRTS WILL BE WEARING FOR THIS.

UM, I PUT OUT ON THE EMAIL EITHER YOUR, I SAID CARDBOARD WHERE YOUR PARK SHIRT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAJORITY HAVE.

IF YOU HAVE YOUR YELLOW EVENT SHIRT, THAT'S ALSO FINE.

OKAY.

I DIDN SEE YOUR NAME ON THE, I'M SORRY YOUR NAME WASN'T ON THE VOLUNTEER SO I DIDN'T, I I SAID THE SAME THING.

I MY NAME ON IT WASN'T.

YEAH, I HAD JUST THREE OF YOU YOURSELF AROUND CAR .

SO THIS IS YOUR SKATE PARK ENTRANCE OFF OF BLACKROCK.

YOU'RE GONNA PULL UP AND YOU'RE GONNA COME TO THIS T AND THIS IS PUBLIC WORKS.

OKAY.

YOU, WE START LINING UP ALL OF OUR SAP CARS UP ON THE GRASS AND WE REVERSE PARK EVERYBODY IN SO EVERYBODY CAN GET OUT.

SO THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY UM, THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY WILL BE PARKED THAT DAY THAT'S WORKING THE EVENT.

IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THIS IS FULL, I WILL HAVE YOU PARKED BEHIND THE END OF THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND I ACTUALLY HAVE, I BELIEVE TO START WITH ALL THAT.

UM, I THINK I HAVE BILL AND JOE, YOU GUYS KIND OF SWITCHING OFF ON THAT.

YEAH.

BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING AT 1130.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THAT'S AWESOME.

, DO YOU NEED MORE VOLUNTEERS FOR RIGHT NOW? WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF COMING IN THAT DAY.

ALL OF MY TEAM WILL BE HERE.

ALL A COUPLE WORKS WILL BE THAT DAY.

GREAT.

UM, WE HAVE SOME HELP FOR FIRE POLICE AS WELL, SO, UM, WE SHOULD BE GOOD.

UM, SO THAT'S BRAVO CLASSIC.

LIKE I SAID, CAMP STARTS THE NEXT DAY AND THEN ON JUNE 18TH IS HOPEFULLY OUR FIRST SUMMER CONCERT OF THE YEAR.

UM, FOURTH TIME IS A CHARM FOR THIS AND IT IS GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WILL BE IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER GYMNASIUM IF IT DOES RUN.

SO ALL OF THE KIDS CONCERTS I AM ABLE TO PUT IN THE GYMNASIUM.

UM, THE ONES THAT WILL NOT GO IN THERE IS OUR BUBBLE FESTIVAL.

LIKE OUR BUBBLE DANCE PARTY IS I THINK WHAT I CALLED IT.

UM, AND UM, TAYLOR SWIFT.

I CAN'T PUT THAT MANY PEOPLE BUT THAT IS WHERE WE WILL BE.

UM, AND NO, WE ALREADY WENT OVER THAT.

SO NO.

JULY OR AUGUST.

YEAH, NOVEMBER.

JULY IN AUGUST.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, ANY OTHER CONCERNS? ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BEFORE WE DO A DEEP DIVE? OKAY.

DEEP DIVE THE DOCUMENT UP.

[4. Old Business (Part 2 of 2)]

HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH IT.

IT, IT'S A LITTLE HEAVY READING.

IT'S UM, IT'S A LOT OF OPTIONS.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD IT FROM MULTIPLE POINT OF VIEWS, MULTIPLE AVENUES AND PERSPECTIVES AND THEN THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN MAKE

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YOUR OWN CHOICES.

I ACTUALLY ASKED SOME UM, OF THESE ON GOOGLE'S AI, GEMINI JUST TO SEE LIKE IF I'M MISSING THINGS THAT MAYBE I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT OF TO BRING UP IN THIS MEETING.

SO A LOT OF THIS IS BASED ON ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF LEVELS.

SO, SO WHAT I DID WAS I WENT THROUGH AND PICKED OUT WHAT I THOUGHT WERE SOME GOOD TALKING POINTS.

HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE NINE PAGE DOCUMENT? OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO IT.

YEAH.

YEP.

TOOK A WHILE.

DEFINITELY.

I KNOW THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS MEAN DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.

SUE CAN YOU GO TO THE SECOND TAB, THE DEFINITIONS? 'CAUSE WHAT I DID WAS I CREATED A SIDE BY SIDE.

WHAT A BOARD DOES.

WHAT A COMMITTEE DOES FOR THE MOST PART.

FOR THE MOST PART.

SO I DON'T WANNA BE THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING.

SO CAN WE GO AROUND? MARIA, CAN YOU READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH JOE? YOU READ THE SECOND.

I'LL READ THE THIRD BILL.

THAT WAY WE'RE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED.

WELL, DID EVERYBODY READ IT? YEAH, WE READ IT ALL.

READ I THINK.

I THINK IF YOU WANT DO LIKE A, DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE DIFFERENCES OF THE TWO AT THIS POINT? AFTER READING IT, I WOULD SAY OPEN CONVERSATION IF YOU WANNA AROUND ROBIN OF WHO, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK TOWARDS IT OR IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T MATTER TO YOU, THAT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE AS WELL.

SO CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT TAB AND JUST GO SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM? 'CAUSE THIS WAS THE, IN CONCLUSION THAT WAS IN THE PAPER AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A KIND OF A NEAT WAY TO, TO LOOK AT IT.

PARKS AND REC BOARDS IN PENNSYLVANIA ARE TYPICALLY EMPOWERED TO MANAGE AND OPERATE FACILITIES.

WHILE COMMITTEES PRIMARILY SERVE IN AN ADVISORY ROLE, IT'S MORE COMMON FOR PENNSYLVANIA LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE COMMITTEES RATHER THAN BOARDS SPECIFICALLY PARKS AND REC.

SO SUE, WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT AS AN ACCURATE YEAH, I THINK THE ONES, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AROUND US THAT HAVE A PARK BOARD THAT THE PARKS AND CREATION DEPARTMENT REPORTS TOO.

SO IT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SENSE OF BOARD THAN WHAT YOU GUYS ARE CURRENTLY DOING.

ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY WANT TO START A DISCUSSION ON THIS? I'LL START OFF SOMETHING.

SO LOOKING AT IT, I'M THINKING, UM, YOU JUST MENTIONED MAYBE A SECOND AGO, SUE, HOW THERE'S LIKE A FORMAL BOARD WHICH DOES MORE FORMAL TESTS AND MORE AUTHORITATIVE SAY MM-HMM ABSOLUTELY.

AS OPPOSED TO ADVISORY.

CORRECT.

AND I'M, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I'M NEW TO THE, UH, TO THE HERE.

SO I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE WE DO MORE ADVISORS AND ACTUALLY SET PRECEDENT FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

I MEAN, I, I'M THINKING MORE OR LESS WHAT YOU AND YOUR CAPACITY.

MM-HMM AFTER YOU DO, YOU KNOW, HIGHER LEVEL BOARD STUFF AND WE'RE HERE TO JUST SORT OF ADVISE AND VOLUNTEER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S JUST MY, YOU KNOW, COMING IN FRESH.

THAT WOULD BE.

UM, SO THAT'S CURRENT.

THAT'S HOW THE BOARD IS CURRENTLY, UM, MODELED AFTER IS MORE OF AN ADVISORY ROLE TO THE PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE.

THE PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY REPORTS TO THE BOARD SUPERVISOR.

SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW OUR CHAIN OF COMMAND GOES.

UM, IN THE PAST THE PARK BOARD WAS AT A DIFFERENT CAPACITY AND THEN IT KIND OF MUTED FOR A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THERE WERE SOME MEETINGS, THERE WAS REALLY NO BOARD AT ALL.

UM, AND WHEN WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO LIFE, IT WAS MORE ON THE BOARD.

UM, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE BOARD AT THAT TIME FELT IT WAS BETTER.

LIKE WE'RE JUST GETTING OUR HANDS IN THIS, LET'S ADVISE AND LET THE DEPARTMENT DO THEIR THING.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE STILL HAVE THE TITLE AS BOARD, BUT WE KIND OF TOOK THE AUTHORITATIVE ROLES AWAY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW IN HERE WAS DEPENDING UPON HOW WE ORIGINALLY WERE FORMULATED MM-HMM THAT THE LEGAL END OF, IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO CHANGE, DOES THAT BECOME A REAL ISSUE OR IS IT JUST SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR SAID? NO, ACCORDING TO THIS WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A UM, SAY ALL THESE TERMS, BUT WE DO HAVE TO PASS, UM, A VOTE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GIVING THEM AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE ARE DOING THIS AND HAVING THE BOARD

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AGREE TO IT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT.

UM, I DID HAVE IT IN HERE, UM, OF EXACTLY WHAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO DO.

WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THIS FOR RIGHT SCOPE OF THE BOARD AND MAKE SURE THE BOARD IS OKAY WITH THIS.

THAT IT'S MORE INVOLVED.

WE NEED A RESOLUTION A LOT MORE INVOLVED TO CHANGE US FROM A BOARD TO A COMMITTEE.

THAT'S, AND IT EVEN SAID GETTING LEGAL REPRESENTATION, WHICH, WHICH FOR US, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT IS THAT INTENSE.

WHEN I DID HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY AT A CAPACITY AND WE CHANGE OUR STRUCTURE ALREADY IN WRITING OF HOW THE BOARD OPERATES, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE A FARFETCHED, IT WOULD SIMPLY BE THE TITLE CHANGE IN THE TERM.

YEAH.

I JUST HAVE TO, ONCE THEY WRITE UP THE ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE HAS TO GO BEFORE THE SUPERVISOR AND THE SUPERVISOR HAS TO VOTE FIRST HAS TO BE WRITTEN UP, HAS TO BE CLEAR.

RIGHT.

AND THEN IT'LL BE PRESENTED TO THE SUPERVISORS AND THE SUPERVISORS WILL HAVE TO LOOK OVER IT AND SEE WHAT IT'S RIGHT THAT WE WANNA CHANGE AND THEN THEY WILL GO DOWN.

RIGHT.

SO IT WOULD TAKE PROBABLY TWO MORE THAN ONE MEETING.

RIGHT.

IT'S JUST, BUT IT'S BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA DO.

GOOD.

THEY TALKED ABOUT IN THE DOCUMENTATION, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE NAME AND I'M WONDERING IF WE CHANGE TO USING THE NAME ADVISORY BOARD SO THAT WE STILL STAY AS A BOARD BUT YET OUR DE BY DEFINITION WE'RE MORE OF AN ADVISORY BOARD.

WOULD THAT MEAN WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL? AS LONG AS YOU'RE STILL A BOARD, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE TERM LENGTHS THAT THAT WAS THE MAJOR POINT 20 YEARS AGO.

THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS ON WHY YOU EVEN WANT TO CHANGE AT THIS POINT.

IF IT'S TERM BASED, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORGANIZATION'S TITLE IN ORDER TO CHANGE.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS THE MAIN QUESTION IS FOR WHAT REASON WOULD WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CHANGING FROM A BOARD TO A COMMITTEE BUT FOR TERM LIMITS? ARE THERE ANY OTHER REASONS THAT ANYBODY CAN SEE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO CHANGE THE NAME KNOWING THAT WE ARE A BOARD BUT YET WE'RE REALLY AN ADVISORY BOARD.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER REASONS THAT ANYONE WOULD WANNA SEE A CHANGE? HEARSAY SAYING MAKE SURE YOU'RE SAYING LEAVE.

JUST GO FROM TITLE TO ADVISOR, LEAVE IT AS A BOARD, BUT KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MAKE THE DECISION OF CHANGING A FACILITY OR WE DON'T GET A FINAL DECISION ON, OR WE'RE ADVISING WE RIGHT.

AND CHANGE THE TERM LIMITS COMMITTEE.

YEP.

SO WHY WOULDN'T YOU CHANGE THAT WOULD BE THE REASON THAT WE WOULD WANT TO CHANGE WOULD BE FIVE YEARS OF PRE-ELECTION TERM.

I THINK THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE TERMS AS A COMMITTEE IS FLEXIBILITY FOR TOWN, TOWN BURN TOWN BEEN SIMILAR FOR, AND YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THEN ALL SUDDEN NOW IS WELL WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE SAYING WE FOR FIVE YEARS OR THREE YEARS.

RIGHT.

I'M SAYING SOME THESE PROGRAMS WE NOT, ONCE IT SAT HERE, SAT THROUGH.

IT WASN'T LIKE A OKAY COMMITMENT.

SOMEONE ELSE WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

BUT ALSO WHEN YOU'RE RECRUITING PEOPLE AND THAT THERE'S A DISCUSSION OF YOU ARE PEOPLE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IS JUST ANOTHER SIDE.

BUT YES, YOU WANT HAVE PEOPLE COMMIT.

BUT THERE IS A, THEY TOLD YOU YOU GONNA, YOU SAID FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT I THINK IT'S, I'M SAYING I SIGNED UP, I COMMIT.

I

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DIDN'T KNOW THAT TAYLOR ANOTHER THOUGHT A YEARLY TERM, ONE AND A HALF STAGGER, BUT IT COULD TAKE IT TO THREE YEARS.

YOU COULD STILL GET A COMMITMENT FOR THREE YEARS.

I, I MEAN I'M JUST A DISCUSSION.

I'M TALKING YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN, BUT THE POINTS ARE SO VALID.

SUE, SCROLL UP UP JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE, HERE'S SOME DRAWBACKS TO HAVING SHORTER TERMS AS RICH JUST TALKED ABOUT.

YOU LOSE THAT CONTINUITY, YOU LOSE THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU, YOU DO STAGGER.

SO THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THERE ARE MORE COSTS INVOLVED, MORE TIME INVOLVED IN, IN DEDICATED.

BUT ALSO THERE ARE POSITIVES AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME, UM, IS THAT THERE ARE POSITIVES, THERE ARE NEGATIVES.

THE ONE NEGATIVE WE ALL CAN SEE IS THAT FIVE YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

THE BUT TO THAT IS YES, YOU'RE MAKING A FIVE YEAR COMMITMENT, BUT THINGS HAPPEN.

THINGS HAPPEN THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL THAT FIVE YEAR TERM.

IF YOU CANNOT FULFILL THAT FIVE YEAR TERM, THE HOPE IS THAT WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT CAN FILL IN THAT SPOT AND GET UPDATED.

IF THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT WE WOULD BE CHANGING BECAUSE OF THE TERM LIMITS.

UNDERSTAND THAT FIVE YEARS IS THE REQUEST, THE RECOMMENDATION, THE WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT SET IN BLOOD.

THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN GET OFF THE BOARD.

WE DON'T LIKE ONE OF THE WAYS THOUGH, RIGHT? WE WE HAVE.

YES WE HAVE.

SO THE ADVISORY BOARD IS NOT A BOARD.

CORRECT.

SO WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT, WE WOULDN'T BE CHANGING ANYTHING AT THAT POINT.

CORRECT.

IF WHAT WE CHANGED IT WOULD BE TO AN ADVISORY BOARD WE'RE NOT CHANGE.

NOTHING WOULD CHANGE.

NOTHING WOULD CHANGE ADDING THAT.

CORRECT.

IT WOULD CHANGE IF WE BECAME A BOARD.

THE ONLY THING WE WOULD CHANGE IS IF WE BECOME A TRUE BOARD, NOT A TRUE BOARD.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS THAT WE WOULD BRING ALL OF THOSE HAVE POWERS THAT A BOARD NORMALLY HAS AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO ALSO MAKE SURE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OKAY.

WITH THE DEPARTMENT REPORTING.

RIGHT.

SO BASICALLY THE ADVISORY BOARD WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE NOW YES.

NOTHING WOULD CHANGE.

IT WOULD JUST BE AN, AND THEN WE'D BE VOTING FOR THAT OR WE'RE VOTING FOR TO BE A TRUE BOARD THE PRESIDENT AND ALL THAT STUFF.

THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

I THINK BEFORE YOU GO TO THE TIME AND THE COST TO DRAFT EVERYTHING, THAT WOULD CHANGE YOU.

I'M NOT SAYING WAIT FOR A PROBLEM, BUT THERE'S NOT A RECRUITMENT PROBLEM AT THE MOMENT.

IT'S FROM MY SHORT VIEW.

MM-HMM.

YOU'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE POSITIONS.

YEAH.

YOU WERE GRACIOUS AND ALLOWED ME TO JOIN.

THANK YOU.

UM, BUT UNTIL WE FACE A BIG RECRUITMENT CHALLENGE AND I THINK YOU, YOU HOLD TIGHT AND NOT MAKE WORK FOR THE SAKE OF IT.

YOU KNOW, I SHOULD WE MOVE? YOU GUYS WANNA TALK ABOUT IT? WELL I JUST APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO WORK WITH NOW.

THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DID ON THIS.

UM, I THINK WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED AND IF EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WE'LL WE'LL GO TO VOTE.

VOTE YEAH VOTE .

DO WE WANNA DO A, IS IT CALLED A YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

THAT I'M SAYING PEOPLE SHOULD BE BALLOT.

NO.

ALRIGHT, SO WHAT CHOICES? LET'S TALK, LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING.

SO BASICALLY IT'S WHAT IT'S NOW WHAT IS IT? WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

OR MAKING AN OFFICIAL BOARD, WHICH WE CHANGE THE SAME SO YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS.

NO, YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS.

YOU HAVE THE FIRST OPTION IS TO CHANGE THE BOARD CAPACITY TO A COMMITTEE, WHICH WOULD MAKE YOU AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE NO POWER OVER THE DEPARTMENT.

YOU HAVE NO DECISION MAKING OPTIONS.

YOU ADVISE THE DEPARTMENT IN, IN DIRECTIONS THAT YOU, UM, AS THE VOICE OF THE TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE TOWARDS.

YOU STAY THE SAME AND YOU ARE A BOARD WITH NO POWER THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN FROM PREVIOUS PHOTO OR YOU BECOME A FULL BOARD.

WE REINSTATE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE REMOVED, WHICH WOULD

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BE, UM, DECISION MAKING SKILLS IN POWER OF THE COMPANY, WHICH I, I'D HAVE TO REALLY LOOK INTO BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE NITTY GRITTY ON HOW THAT WAS BEFORE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WITH THOSE THREE OPTIONS, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT UP FOR A VOTE? YES.

OKAY.

AND YOU CAN, I DO NOT AGREE AND YOU CAN, OKAY.

DO WE EVEN HAVE TO CONSIDER THE THIRD OPTION OF BEING THE AUTHORITARIAN BOARD TO REINSTATE TO A FULL BOARD? DO WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT OPTION? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS ON TABLE.

YEAH, I CAN'T EVEN, BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, YOU NEED TO HAVE KEN, YOU NEED TO HAVE, OR WHATEVER YOU NEED TO CALL IT SECOND .

BUT I THINK FROM THE FEELING I'M GETTING FROM EVERYBODY IS THAT WE WOULD, WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE, BUT A HEAD NOD OF THIS IS WE LIKE THAT CAPACITY THAT WE'RE AT.

YEAH.

WE DON'T MIND THE FIVE YEARS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE COMMITTEE, BUT WE CAN CHANGE IT TO AN ADVISORY TITLE WITH THE BOARD NAME.

SO THE, THE PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.

CAN WE CHANGE, CAN WE CHANGE THAT WITHOUT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IT'S TWO DIFFERENT NAMES ON DIFFERENT TEMPLATES IN THE TOWNSHIP ITSELF.

SO ON SOME THINGS THAT SAYS, I WASN'T EVEN RECOMMENDING THAT WE CHANGE TO THE MAIN ADVISORY BOARD THAT JUST WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T HAVE FULL CAPACITY TO MAKE ALL THESE CHANGES.

WE JUST HAVE RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT WE ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD.

BUT IT FITS INTO THE DEFINITION.

IT FITS INTO THE DEFINITION.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR NAME TO ADVISORY BOARD.

OKAY, WELL AS OF NOW I'M GETTING THE FEELING THAT WE'RE GOOD WHERE WE ARE AND IN SEPTEMBER THEN YOU GUYS CAN VOTE ON IT OR WE DISMISS IT.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S FINE.

IT'S A MAJORITY.

OR IS IT ALL, DO WE HAVE MAJORITY? NO, IT, IT WOULD BE A MAJORITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE EVEN NUMBERS.

BUT IF WE ALL, ONLY ONE WE'RE MISSING IS PAYING, WE ALL SAY THE SAME.

I DON'T, I BELIEVE STATEWIDE YOU HAVE IT WON'T YOU HAVE, HAVE, LET'S CALL UP.

THAT IS VERY TRUE.

THE OTHER BOARD, THEY HAVEN'T MET YET THEIR MEETINGS THAT AN EMERGENCY.

SO YEAH, I, THIS WAS, I WAS VERY, UM, NERVOUS ABOUT THIS AND JUST PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT JUST TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR AND IT REALLY WAS VERY, UM, IN SOME CASES VERY NEBULOUS.

THERE WERE TERMS THAT COULD FIT BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? AND IT WASN'T, BUT I THINK WE CAME TO A GOOD UNDERSTANDING.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WE WILL NOT

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SEE YOU IN JULY.

WE WILL NOT SEE YOU IN AUGUST UNLESS WE RUN INTO YOU SOMEWHERE.

OUR NEXT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 10TH, SIX O'CLOCK AND EVERYBODY HAS A BREAK SOMEWHERE.

NO, WE SHOULD SAVE AUTOMATICALLY.

I DUNNO WHY.

WOW.

I TOLD RUSS I WASN'T THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

SKIP THE TOPIC .

I KNOW THAT FIRST.

UM, REALLY QUICK BEFORE EVERYONE LEAVES, I JUST WANNA RUN THIS BY YOU BECAUSE I'LL NOT SEE YOU UNTIL SEPTEMBER AND WE'LL MEET RIGHT BEFORE ALL.

UM, IF I GO BY THIS DOCUMENT ALONE, SO IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU ARE SIGNED UP FOR, UM, THEN I WILL EMAIL JUST THE PEOPLE ON THIS LIST.

SO IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO, UM, I KNOW THAT'S, I WAS, I THOUGHT I MISSED YOU, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS SAYS.

UM, THIS IS A DIFFERENT TAB.

SO SUMMER CONCERTS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TAB BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MANY OF 'EM.

IF THERE'S ONE OF THESE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME, COME TO, JUST PUT YOUR NAME ON THIS LIST AND MAYBE SHOOT ME AN EMAIL.

UM, AND I'LL MAKE SURE I EMAIL YOU AND CONTACT YOU BEFORE THE EVENT BEGINS.

JUST LIKE, UM, IF YOU WERE WORKING CAR SHOW, YOU GOT A DOCUMENT FROM ME EARLIER THIS WEEK.

SO THAT'S WHY I TRY TO DO A FEW AT LEAST A WEEK BEFOREHAND.

SO IF THERE ARE ONES THAT YOU WANT TO DO, JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE SIGNING UP ON THE CORRECT TAB.

UM, AND REMEMBER, PUT A REMINDER IN FOR YOURSELF THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE COMING THAT DAY.

BECAUSE

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IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR THESE THINGS, I PUT POSITIONS OUT THERE AND EXPECT, BUT IF YOU CAN'T COME LAST MINUTE, THAT'S FINE.

YOU SHOULD DO I SAY MINUTES TO YOU? YES, ME AND THANK YOU GUYS.

SEVEN O'CLOCK ADJOURNMENT.