[CALL TO ORDER]
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I HAD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS JANUARY 21ST, 2025.WHEN EVERYONE PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE OF ALL.
[MOTION TO APPROVE BOARD AGENDA]
TO PROVE TO AGENDA, I'LL ENTERTAIN.WE NEED TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
I'LL SECOND I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.
[SPECIAL PRESENTATION]
TO TURN THE MEETING OVER TO, UH, CHIEF BRISEL TO, UH, MAKE THE SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.UH, THESE ARE THE PRESENTATIONS THAT I TRULY ENJOY STANDING UP IN FRONT OF YOU, GIVING.
UM, THIS IS GREAT NEWS, UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DESERVING PEOPLE HERE TODAY.
AND WE'RE HERE FOR ONE SPECIFIC REASON, AND THAT'S FOR A LIFE SAVING AWARDS THAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO NINE OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
UM, ON AUGUST 30TH, 2020 4, 10 50 7:00 PM THE UPPER PROVIDENCE FIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT SENT FRIENDSHIP.
AMBULANCE WERE DISPATCHED TO RESIDENCE ON EAGLE ROAD FOR A MALE REPORTED TO BE IN CARDIAC ARREST.
THE CALLER WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE NINE ONE ONE TELECOMMUNICATOR, WHO WAS MYSTIQUE ROBINSON, WHO WAS PROVIDING INSTRUCTIONS TO THE CALLER ON HOW TO DO CPR.
CORPORAL SCHWARZ AND OFFICER BAKER FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARRIVED ON LOCATION AND CONTINUED CPR AND BEGAN TO SET UP THE A ED, THE CREWS FROM, UH, SQUAD 68, CAPTAIN KELLI, FIREFIGHTER, EMT, RUGER, MCGUIRE, AND MUL, ALONG WITH FRIENDSHIP, AMBULANCE, CREW, PARAMEDIC, MED SAC, AND A EMT BOILING ARRIVAL ON LOCATION.
SHORTLY AFTER ALL, THE FIRST RESPONDERS CONTINUED PROVIDING LIFESAVING CARE, TEARING THE PATIENT TO ANIMALS AND TRANSPORTING HIM TO THE HOSPITAL.
AS A RESULT OF THE SKILL, KNOWLEDGE, AND TEAMWORK FROM EVERY EVERYONE INVOLVED, THE PATIENT SUCCESSFULLY RECOVERED FROM US, NORMALLY FADE AWAY VAN AND IS HERE TONIGHT.
I BELIEVE THAT, UM, OUR PATIENT'S WIFE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
MY NAME IS SUE CHOI, AND I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE HONORED SERVICE MAN AND WOMAN WHO SAVED MY HUSBAND'S LIFE ON THE EVENING OF AUGUST 30TH, 2024.
THANK YOU TO THE UPPER PROVIDENCE FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, FRIENDSHIP, AMBULANCE, AND THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, THE LIFESAVING ACTIONS AND GREAT RESPONSE WAS CRUCIAL AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF EDMOND'S, FULL MEANINGFUL RECOVERY.
SO IT WASN'T GONNA CRY,
UM, AND WHAT REMAINS THREADED IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE STORIES THAT I SHARE IS THE GRATITUDE.
AND EVERY STORY STARTS AND ENDS THE SAME.
I NEVER LEAVE OUT THE BEGINNING, STARTING WITH THE CALL TO NINE ONE ONE WHO KEPT ME FOCUSED ON WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, AND THE TEAM OF RESPONDERS THAT QUICKLY EMERGED AND SWIFTLY MOVED TO GET MY HUSBAND TO PHOENIXVILLE HOSPITAL.
I KNOW IT FELT LIKE FOREVER WAS JUST A MATTER OF MINUTES.
AND THE STORY CONTINUES WITH THE LEVEL OF CARE AND SUPPORT MEDICALLY THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM PHOENIXVILLE AND LEHIGH COUNTY HOSPITAL.
AND THEN THE STORY ALWAYS ENDS.
IT ALWAYS ENDS WITH THE GREATEST GIFT THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE MIRACULOUS RECOVERY OF MY HUSBAND, EDMOND.
WE KNOW THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE HE LITERALLY DIDN'T MISS A BEAT DUE TO YOUR SERVICE ACTIONS AND RESPONSE.
AND FOR THAT, WE ARE FOREVER GRATEFUL, AND I'M SO GRATEFUL TO NOW KNOW YOUR NAMES AND FACES.
SO, YOU KNOW, EXCUSE ME, IF I, I COULD START ON A FIRST NAME BASIS, BUT TO RYAN, MIKE, JOHN PAUL MYSTIQUE, MIKE BLAZE, JOSH OCTAVIUS, AND JOSEPH, THANK YOU FOR SAVING MY HUSBAND AND ENJOY, THANK YOU FOR SAVING OUR FAMILY.
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SO I DIDN'T WRITE MORE, I CAN'T SAY THAT THIS IS, THIS IS ABSOLUTE PROOF OF A SYSTEM THAT WORKS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO THE VERY END.UM, THE, THE, THE TRAINING FROM THE, THE, THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN THE NINE ONE ONE CALL TAKER, THE STATE TOOK THE CALL AND WALKED HER THROUGH THE STEPS OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO, UM, WHAT EVERYBODY HERE TODAY ARRIVING ON LOCATION AND JUST JUMPING INTO ACTION.
AND, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
AND, UM, NORMALLY THE RESULTS ARE NOT GOOD.
UH, BUT IN THIS CASE, OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE.
SO, UM, JOINING ME TONIGHT TO HELP PRESENT THE AWARDS, UH, POLICE CHIEF MARK FREEMAN, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF TOM DEMLING, FRIENDSHIP AMBULANCE CHIEF GEORGE GI AND, UH, MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR, BRIAN MCCONE, IF YOU WOULD ALL COME UP.
SO TONIGHT, UM, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME TAMMA, PLEASE, WE'RE PRESENTING THESE LIFESAVING AWARDS TO A 9 1 1 TELECOMMUNICATOR WITH STEVE ROBINSON, CORPORAL MIKE SCHWARTZ, OFFICER OCTAVIUS BAKER, CAPTAIN RYAN, KELLI, FIREFIGHTER JOSH RUGER, FIREFIGHTER MIKE MCGUIRE, FIREFIGHTER BLAZE PARAMEDIC, JP SACK, AND A EMT JOSEPH BOY.
SO, UM, WE'RE ALL GONNA MOVE OVER IN FRONT OF THE SCREEN AND ALONG WITH OUR PATIENT, WE'RE STANDING THERE AND TAKE A PICTURE, ONE OR TWO PICTURES, OR HOWEVER MANY AS YOU'D NEED.
UM, BUT SO IF YOU GO THAT WAY, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HERE, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY OR ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING THE AWARDS, UH, AS SOON AS WE'RE COMPLETE HERE, YOU'RE ALL INVITED TO GO ACROSS THE STREET TO THE FIREHOUSE WHERE THEY'LL BE ABLE, A PRIVATE TIME WHERE YOU CAN, UH, SPEAK AND TALK AND MEET WITH, UH, THE RESPONDERS.
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ALRIGHT, I, UH, WE GET THE MEETING HERE IN THE NEXT SECTION'S PUBLIC LINE, BUT BEFORE WE GET TO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A FEW BRIEF WORDS ABOUT SOMEONE WE LOST HERE IN THE TOWNSHIP.AND THAT'S TOM BROAD BELT, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
UM, TOM WAS NOT ONLY AN OUTSTANDING PUBLIC EMPLOYEE, EMPLOYEE, HE WAS A FRIEND AND FELT LIKE FAMILY HERE AT THE TOWNSHIP.
AND, UH, TO SAY WE, WE, WE SORELY MISSED DOESN'T BEGIN TO COVER NOT JUST BY US, HIS FRIENDS AND AND FAMILY, BUT ALSO BY OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.
UH, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND, UH, HOW IMPORTANT IT'S TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO WATCHES OVER ALL OF IT.
ACCIDENTS NEED TO BE RESPONDED TO.
SOMETIMES OUR PUBLIC WORKS GUYS HAVE DO SOME MAJOR CLEANUP EFFORTS.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
I HAD THE PLEASURE WORKING HIM WITH HIM FOR THE LAST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS, HE, HE, HE ALWAYS HAS STRAIGHT ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION.
AND, UM, SO ANYWAY, WE'LL JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING BUSINESS.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
NOW IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.SO IF YOU WANT COME AND COMMENT ON ANY, UH, BUSINESS SUPPORT THE TOWNSHIP THIS EVENING OR ANYTHING THAT, UH, THAT MIGHT BE IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE, UH, COME TO THE, THE MICROPHONE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
NORMALLY WE DON'T HEAR COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS OR TAXPAYERS WITHIN THIS TOWNSHIP, BUT WE'RE MAKING AN EXCEPTION THIS EVENING.
PLEASE OBSERVE THREE MINUTES AND, UH, LET'S TRY NOT TO REPEAT OURSELVES.
KEVIN MIDAL, 1 39 HEMLOCK DRIVE, UH, PER GAMAN WOODS.
UM, FIRST AS A BOARD MEMBER OF PER GAMAN WOODS.
UM, THERE IS A PROJECT GOING ON, UH, WITH I DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEY DID MEET WITH US, UM, THAT DISCUSSED THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEY DID ASK, UM, IF THEY COULD CUT THE TRAIL THROUGH OUR PROPERTY AND ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, WE DO NOT WANT THAT.
UH, COMING ACROSS 29, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS.
THERE'S ALREADY BEEN ACCIDENTS THERE BEFORE, UM, JUST WITH MOTOR VEHICLES.
UM, ON, ON THE SECOND PART, UH, AS A RESIDENT, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SECTION OF THE TOWNSHIP ON HOW FAST IT'S DEVELOPING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A FIRE ON, UH, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND THE RESPONSE TIME WAS TREMENDOUS ON SPRUCE LANE.
THEY WERE THERE IN FIVE MINUTES.
COLLEGEVILLE IS PROBABLY CLOSER, UM, TO PERKIN AND WOODS, UH, FIRE STATION, THEIR FIRE STATION.
AND THE RESPONSE TIME WAS INCREDIBLE.
UH, IT WAS IN THE, IN THE WALL, IN THE KITCHEN.
IT WAS, IF IT WAS ANY DELAY, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE HAD A LOT MORE, WOULD'VE HAD LOSS.
UM, MY CONCERN ALSO FOR, YOU KNOW, OUR 435 RESIDENTS OR, UH, HOMEOWNERS IS OUR EGRESS IS ON THE 29TH.
WE HAVE ONE WAY IN ONE WAY OUT.
AND ONE, YOU AS THE BOARD ARE REVIEWING THESE PLANS, PLEASE CONSIDER THE SAFETY AS THE UTMOST PRIORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? TONIGHT? TONIGHT? ALRIGHT.
[APPROVAL OF BILL LIST]
A BILL LIST OUT THERE THAT'S, UH, ACTUALLY TWO MONTHS WORTH OF BILLS.WE WERE SO QUICK GETTING OUR BUDGET OUT IN DECEMBER.
WE HAVEN'T GOT A CHANCE TO APPROVE THE BILLS FROM NOVEMBER.
SO IT'S FROM NOVEMBER ONE UNTIL DECEMBER 31.
I MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE THE NOVEMBER 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 BILL LIST THE AMOUNT OF 2995451 CENTS.
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ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FOR THE PERIOD NOVEMBER ONE THROUGH DECEMBER 31.[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WE ALSO HAD TWO SETS OF MINUTES IN OUR PACKET.UM, THE, UH, REGULAR, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 2ND AND THE REORGANIZATION MINUTES FROM JANUARY 6TH.
UH, SO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION WITH BOTH THOSE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 2ND, 2024 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AND THE JANUARY 6TH, 2025 BOARD OF SUPERVISOR REORGANIZATION MEETING MINUTES.
AND, UH, NO OLD BUSINESS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
[NEW BUSINESS (ACTION/DISCUSSION ITEMS)]
FIRST, UH, ITEM OF NEW BUSINESS IS CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2025 DASH OH SEVEN GRANTING FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR THE ALEXANDER MINOR SUBDIVISION 3 26 GREENWOOD AVENUE.I'M GLEN CHEKI WITH BI AND ASSOCIATES, AND WE HAVE PREPARED THE MINOR SUBDIVISION PLAN FOR, UH, RONALD AND SURE.
LEE ALEXANDER, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY THIS EVENING.
THE, UH, SMALL RECTANGLE DOWN IN THE LEFT HAND CORNER.
IS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THAT PROPERTY FOR A DRIVEWAY LATER? OH, YOUR MIC'S ON.
THE, UH, RECTANGLE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE DIAGRAM TO THE LEFT, UH, THE SMALLER ONE, IS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE PROPERTY IN THE BACK? IS THAT WHAT THAT'S SHOWING DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? YES, THAT WOULD BE THE 50 FOOT WIDE ACCESS TO THE, TO THE REAR LOT TOO.
AND EVENTUALLY THERE'LL BE A DRIVEWAY WHEN THEY BUILD THE HOME BACK THERE.
IT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY THE WHERE THEY ONE IS NEXT DOOR TO IT.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2025 DASH SEVEN GRANTING FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR THE ALEXANDER MINOR SUBDIVISION.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 2025 DASH OH EIGHT, GRANTING TENTATIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR THE HIGH REAL ESTATE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, UH, AT WALK FROM THE ADDRESS RANGE IS 1731 THROUGH 1735 SOUTH COLLEGEVILLE ROAD FOR AMBER RUB, MAXWELL LUIN.
I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT'S ACQUISITION COURT HOLDING GP, LLC AND AUDUBON LAND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS FOR A TENTATIVE, EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU PUT THE MIC TOWARDS YOUR MOUTH? HOLD THAT MIC A LITTLE CLOSER TO, OKAY.
UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR A TENTATIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1731 THROUGH 1765 SOUTH COLLEGEVILLE ROAD.
WITH ME THIS EVENING ARE TONY SITES FROM ACQUISITION CORP, UH, ANDY LAURA FROM UBON LAND DEVELOPMENT COURT, ERIC O CHUCK FROM TPD, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER PAUL LEOPARD, UH, FROM NA NEW ASSOCIATES, ERIC HEEL, WHO'S OUR PLANNER.
WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THE TENTATIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROPOSING A BY RIGHT USE FOR 472 RESIDENTIAL UNITS UNDER THE YMU EUROPEAN MIXED USE DISTRICT.
WE'VE RECEIVED REVIEW LETTERS FROM GILMAR DATED OCTOBER 31ST, 2024, TOWNSHIP FIRE MARSHAL DATED OCTOBER 10TH, 2024, BOWMAN DATED OCTOBER 31ST, 2024, AND THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION DATED NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024.
WE'VE REVIEWED THE REVIEW LETTERS AND ARE VERY COMFORTABLE IN INDICATING THAT CONSIDERING THIS IS A TENTATIVE PLAN, WHICH COULD CHANGE SOMEWHAT BASED ON ENGINEERING, WHEN WE GO TO PRELIMINARY PLAN, WE ARE COMFORTABLE TELLING YOU THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO RESOLVE ALL OF THE ISSUES SET FORTH IN THOSE LETTERS.
AND WHAT I PROPOSE TO DO TONIGHT IS HAVE PAUL LEPER REVIEW THE PLAN INDICATING WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING ERIC
ERIC ELL TO DISCUSS THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THE PLAN ON THE TOWNSHIP SCHOOL DISTRICT AND COUNTY.
ONCE THAT HAS OCCURRED, WE'LL BE PREPARED TO RESPOND TO ANY
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QUESTIONS OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE MAY HAVE.SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CALL TONY SITES JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO THE PROJECT.
UM, IT IS GREAT TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MOMENT.
AS ED SAID, UM, A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS TENTATIVE SKETCH PLAN.
WE ARE VERY, UM, FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THE RESPONSES, THE REVIEWS, AND HAVE, UM, UH, EN ENGAGED A LOT WITH OUR TEAM TO BE PREPARED TO RESPOND TO ALL OF THEM.
I DON'T, THERE, THERE AREN'T ANY COMMENTS THAT ARE, UM, AN ISSUE HERE.
WE WILL COMPLY WITH THE, UH, THE COMMENTS IN THE LETTERS.
UM, THE, UH, ED MENTIONED THE PLAN HERE, THERE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A, UM, JOINT DEVELOPMENT.
I'M WITH, UM, ACQUISITION HOLDING CORPORATION, WHICH IS, UM, THE, THE SPECIAL PURPOSE ENTITY THAT WAS SET UP TO ACQUIRE AND DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY.
UM, THAT IS AN AFFILIATE OF THE HIGH COMPANIES IN LANCASTER, UH, LANCASTER, PENNSYLVANIA.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADQUARTERED.
AND WE ARE A 90-YEAR-OLD PENNSYLVANIA FAMILY OWNED COMPANY.
UM, A LOT OF, UH, EXPOSURE AND REACH IN PENNSYLVANIA AND IN SURROUNDING STATES THROUGH OUR BUSINESSES AT HIGH REAL ESTATE GROUP AND ALSO THROUGH HIGH INDUSTRIES WHERE WE HAVE, UH, STEEL AND CONCRETE BUSINESSES.
BUT, UH, WE OWN AND OPERATE, UH, OVER 30, UH, 300, UM, MULTI-FAMILY UNITS.
WE'VE GOT 300 UNDER DEVELOPMENT IN LANCASTER RIGHT NOW, UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN LANCASTER.
AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE IN YOUR COMMUNITY WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY AT THE OUTSET, PAUL WILL GET INTO TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HOW THIS LAYS OUT.
THIS IS, UM, BEING DEVELOPED JOINTLY WITH A COMPANY THAT YOU KNOW WELL, AUDUBON LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
MY COLLEAGUE ANDY LORO FROM AUDUBON IS, IS BEHIND ME AND WE'RE WITH THEM EVERY STEP IN THE WAY.
UM, I AND AUDUBON HAVE HAD A RELATIONSHIP OVER DECADES.
OUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AFFILIATE HAS BUILT PRODUCT FOR THEM.
WE'RE, UM, REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE, WORKING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, UM, ON WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE AN EXCITING PROJECT HERE.
SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS, UM, IN TOTAL 472 UNITS.
IT IS DEVELOPED AGAIN AS A JOINT PROJECT, AND IT'S A LAND CONDOMINIUM.
THE, THE NORTHERN BUILDING IS THE AUDUBON BUILDING.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THREE BUILDINGS BELOW.
UM, THOSE THREE BUILDINGS, THE TWO U-SHAPED BUILDINGS THAT FACE EACH OTHER.
AND THE SMALLER BUILDING TO THE SOUTH ARE THE HIGH BUILDINGS.
AND ALTOGETHER THAT'S 297 UNITS, 297 APARTMENT UNITS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE SITE LAYS OUT.
I'LL LET PAUL EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE, ON THE DESIGN.
TONY, BEFORE YOU GO, WOULD YOU DESCRIBE, UH, THE MEETINGS THAT YOU'VE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORS? I'M SORRY, ED.
WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS AT, AT, UM, JEFF'S, UM, INVITATION OR ENCOURAGEMENT FROM THE TOWNSHIP.
AND, UM, ALSO WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO SET UP THOSE MEETINGS.
WE MET WITH THE FOLKS AT PERCU AND WOODS.
I APPRECIATED HIS REMARK THAT, THAT HE FELT THAT WAS A PROFESSIONAL AND, AND JUST A POSITIVE MEETING.
AND, UH, WE COMMITTED THAT THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD, UH, QUESTIONS AND, AND COMMENTS IN THE MEETING THAT REALLY RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND HOW CONDITIONS ON 29 WILL IMPROVE.
THEY RELATED TO HOW, UM, RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO, UH, SEE THE, THE PROJECT FROM ROUTE 29 FROM THEIR HOMES OR FROM FROM THE ROAD, HOW IT'S GONNA PRESENT ITSELF.
UM, WE TOLD, WE SAID IN THAT REGARD, ELEVATIONS ARE NOT READY YET WHEN THEY ARE, WE'LL COME BACK.
AND, UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER DESIGN.
SO A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN, IN THOSE AREAS.
AND AS KEVIN MENTIONED, THE UM, THE IDEA OF A, UH, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PROPERTY AND THE NEW SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION AND PER TRAIL WAS ALSO DISCUSSED.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT MEETING AND THERE, THERE WERE A BUNCH OF HIS, I THINK HIS BOARD WAS IN THE ROOM WITH US AND THEN, UM, PROBABLY FOUR OR SO RESIDENTS TUNED IN VIRTUALLY TO THE MEETING AFTER THAT, WHICH WAS IN NOVEMBER.
WE HAD A MEETING IN JUST, UH, LAST WEEK WITH, UH, NEIGHBORS IN COLLEGEVILLE WHO, UM, LIVE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AT THE KIND OF NORTHERN TIER THERE.
WE WALKED LITERALLY ALL THOSE BACKYARDS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, WE MET AT COLLEGEVILLE BOROUGH, THE BOROUGH MANAGER WAS PRESENT, THEIR CHIEF WAS PRESENT, AND MAYBE A DOZEN
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NEIGHBORS WERE THERE.UM, ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORS JOINED US WHEN WE DID THE WALK.
I WOULD CHARACTERIZE THAT MEETING AS EVERY BIT AS POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE AS THE MEETING WITH, UH, THE FOLKS AT PERCU AND WOODS.
REALLY THE SAME QUESTIONS WERE ASKED.
UM, STORM WATER, UM, WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR THOSE FOLKS.
THEY HAD PICTURES AND RECORDS OF, YOU KNOW, EXTREME EVENTS AND ASKED ABOUT, UH, HOW WE WERE GONNA, UM, UH, GENERALLY NOT MAKE THINGS WORSE AND HOPEFULLY MAKE THEM BETTER.
AND PAUL WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
BUT TWO REALLY I THINK POSITIVE MEETINGS.
GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IS THAT COMING THROUGH? UM, MY NAME AGAIN IS PAUL LEPER.
I'M PRINCIPAL WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRM OF NAVE NEWELL.
WE'RE LOCATED IN WAYNE, UH, WAYNE, PENNSYLVANIA.
UM, THE PROPERTY THAT, UM, I'LL KIND OF WALK THROUGH, UM, OVERALL IS, UM, 29 ACRES.
UM, IN TOTAL, UM, UH, MY POINTER ISN'T, ISN'T WORKING.
UM, THERE ARE TWO MAIN ENTRANCE POINTS OFF OF ROUTE 29, WHICH IS ON THE EAST SIDE.
YEAH, IT'S WORKING A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO THERE ARE TWO, UH, MAIN ENTRANCES, UH, OFF OF, UH, ROUTE 21, 29, EXCUSE ME.
THE, UH, MAIN ENTRANCE EAST WEST, UH, DIRECTLY OPPOSES, UH, PER, UH, PERCUMIN WOODS, UH, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, ERIC WILL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THIS, BUT THE INTENTION IS THAT THIS WILL BE A SIGNALED INTERSECTION.
UH, THE SECOND, UH, MEANS OF INGRESS EGRESS, UM, FULL MO MOVEMENTS IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, AT THIS LOCATION, AGAIN, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WE'VE UNSIGNED STOP CONTROL, BUT, UH, FULL ACCESS, UH, UH, UH, INTERSECTION AS, UH, TONY DESCRIBED ON THE NORTH, UH, SIDE OF THE PLAN, UH, ALONG OUR NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE IS THE, UM, UM, MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY.
UM, THE PROPERTY, UH, AS TONY MENTIONED, IS ZONED, UM, UH, Y'S MIXED USE.
AND, UM, AGAIN, THE PLAN THAT YOU'RE SEEING BEFORE YOU IS, UM, AN IMPLEMENTATION OF YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE WITH RESPECT TO, UH, UH, BUILDING ARRANGEMENT SITING, UH, THERE ARE PRESCRIPTIVE REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO SETBACKS FROM, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY, UM, FOR BOTH BUILDINGS AND PARKING.
WE MEET OR EXCEED THOSE SEPARATION AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING AND BUILDING, UH, PLACEMENT.
UM, IN TOTAL, AGAIN, UM, WE HAVE 175, UM, FIVE STORY BUILDING ON THE NORTH.
AND THEN WE HAVE THREE, UH, UH, OTHER, UM, APARTMENT BUILDINGS ALSO FIVE STORY, UH, FOR THE REMAINING, UH, 297, UH, UNITS.
UM, ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, PARKING IS AT A RATE OF ONE PARK, 1.7 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.
UH, WE ARE PROVIDING REQUISITE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES DISTRIBUTED TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, UH, A UNIT ONE CONDO SELF SUFFICIENTLY.
SO THERE'S A NEED FOR FOLKS TO PARK DOWN HERE FOR, UH, UNDER UNIT ONE.
UH, AND, UM, PARKING HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED EVENLY AROUND THE PERIMETERS OF THE REMAINING BUILDINGS.
IN THE CENTER OF THE, UM, UNIT ONE, UH, BUILDING, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS AQUA THAT IS, UM, AN AMENITY SPACE THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
AND THAT'LL CONSIST OF, UH, A POOL, UM, YOU KNOW, SUN DECK FOR, UH, RECREATING, UM, ENJOYING YOURSELF IN THE SUN, UH, POTENTIALLY, UM, GRILL STATIONS THE SAME AS, UH, PROPOSED IN THIS COURTYARD, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO U-SHAPED BUILDINGS.
UM, AND LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE, UH, OTHER AMENITIES IN TERMS OF CIRCULATION.
UH, WE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN WAY CONNECTING TO A DOG, A DOG PARK.
UM, SO THE AMENITY SPACE IN TERMS OF THE POOL, THE HARDSCAPE, THE GRILL STATIONS, THE DOG PARK, UM, THEY HELP TO FACILITATE THE DENSITY BONUS REQUIREMENTS THAT THE PLAN CONTEMPLATES IN TERMS OF, UH, HOW DO WE, UH, REACH OUR DESIRED DENSITY OF 472 UNITS.
IN ORDER TO DO SO, WE NEED TO PROVIDE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, TWO, UM,
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ADDITIONAL AMENITIES PLUS THE THIRD, UH, THIS U-SHAPED BUILDING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CAMPUS IS A SIX STORY ON THIS BACKSIDE.SO WE WILL BE SEEKING ANOTHER DENSITY BONUS TO GO UP THAT EXTRA FIVE FEET IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE GRADING, UM, WHICH, UM, WILL HAPPEN ALONG THIS, UH, U-SHAPED BUILDING.
UH, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, RESPONDING TO THE SITE CONDITIONS, UM, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WAS, UH, UH, DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE, UH, PROGRAMMATICALLY, UM, LAID OUT, UM, UH, FOUR BASINS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PARKING LOT ON UNIT ONE.
UM, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, FOUR OR SO UNDERGROUND BASINS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE STORMWATER, UM, BOTH WATER QUALITY AND PEAK CONTROLS.
UM, WE HAVE DONE ENOUGH, UM, SITE INVESTIGATION AND TESTING TO, UH, LITMUS TEST OUR DESIGN WITH RESPECT TO MEETING THE TOWNSHIP'S, UH, STORMWATER ORDINANCES.
IT HASN'T, UM, CERTAINLY NOT READY FOR, UM, LAY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BUT WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE TOWNSHIP'S.
UM, UM, UM, UH, MITIGATION, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE LO UM, LIMITED DISTURBANCE AND, AND AND GRADING ACTIVITIES AND OFFSETTING THAT WITH THE APPROPRIATE, UM, UH, STORM WATER.
UH, I'M HOPING YOU'RE SEEING A LARGE AREA OF GREEN SPACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS IS ABOUT 13 ACRES.
UH, THERE'S, UH, THREE OR FOUR ACRES OF GREEN SPACE CO-MINGLED WITHIN THAT 13 ACRES.
AND THE REMAINING 16 ACRES TO THE WEST IS, UM, GOING TO BE LEFT, UM, FOR, UM, PASSIVE OPEN SPACE, UH, AND CONSERVATION OF THAT, UH, OF THAT RESOURCE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER TWO ELEMENTS THAT I DIDN'T MENTION IS THE SERVICE AREAS IN, IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, DUMPSTER LOCATIONS ARE INTERIOR SITES.
SO IT WAS NOT TO OBJECT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS.
SO WE BROUGHT THEM INTERIOR TO THE SITE.
AND AS TONY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME WITH NEIGHBORS LOOKING AT THIS AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, REQUIRED BUFFER IS PROVIDED WHILE ALSO BEING CONSIDERATE OF THE EXISTING DRAINAGE THAT IS, UM, A RESULT OF A, A BASIN DISCHARGE AT THIS CORNER, UH, THAT'S DISCHARGING TOWARDS THE REAR OF THESE LOTS ALONG THAT COMMON PROPERTY PROPERTY LIKE, SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IN MORE DETAIL.
UM, I DID MENTION THE DOG PARK AS WELL.
ERIC, WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING? DO WE HAVE CONCEPT? GOOD EVENING.
UM, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE JUST SEEING THIS AS A TENTATIVE PLAN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE TRAFFIC FOR PROBABLY CLOSE TO A YEAR NOW.
UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE TOWNSHIP STAFF AND PENDOT, UH, ON THIS, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL PORTION OF ROUTE 29, UM, THAT EXISTS BETWEEN HOPWOOD ROAD AND, AND COLLEGE BOROUGH.
UM, SO BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE A, AN EXISTING CONDITIONS PLAN ON THE SCREEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT CAN DESCRIBE IT TO YOU.
UH, ROUTE 29 AND THIS AREA AS YOU'RE LEAVING, COLLEGEVILLE COMING TOWARDS 4 22, UH, HAS A SINGLE LANE SOUTHBOUND AS YOU TRAVEL, UH, PAST THE WAWA, AND THEN, UH, THROUGH PERKY AND BOULEVARD, DOWN THROUGH HOPWOOD, AND THEN ON DOWN TOWARDS THE, UH, TOWN CENTER.
UM, SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE OF THE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED AS PART OF THE YERKES DEVELOPMENT AT HOPWOOD ROAD, UH, WHICH CONSIST, UH, SHOWN IN THIS AREA HERE, CONSISTS OF A FIVE LANE CROSS SECTION ON ROUTE 29, A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, AND SOME WIDENING ON HOPWOOD ROAD.
UM, SO AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN HERE IS, IS OUR CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS WITH PENNDOT, AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS SUBMITTED AT THE END OF 2024.
UH, HAS SINCE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE TOWNSHIP IN PENNDOT, AGAIN, WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT.
YOU KNOW, TO REITERATE, WE A TENTATIVE PLAN.
WE'RE MUCH FURTHER ALONG THAN WE TYPICALLY WOULD BE WITH TRAFFIC AT THIS POINT, WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, EKIS DEVELOPMENT, THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE, AND CERTAINLY THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, SO TO RUN YOU THROUGH THAT, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS KIND OF CONNECTING THE DOTS BETWEEN HOPWOOD ROAD AND THE WAWA INTERSECTION IN COLLEGEVILLE.
UH, ESSENTIALLY EXPANDING THAT THREE
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LANE CROSS SECTION TO PROVIDE A FULL FIVE LANE CROSS SECTION, UH, THROUGH THE HOP, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING TO THE HOPWOOD ROAD, UH, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS UP THROUGH WAWA.SO YOU WOULD HAVE A SECONDARY, UH, THROUGH LANE TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND FROM COLLEGEVILLE, UM, THROUGH TOWARDS 4 22, UH, AS WELL AS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CENTER LEFT TURN LANE THROUGH THIS AREA HERE TO PROVIDE FOR LEFT TURNS INTO THE SITE, AS WELL AS A MUCH NEEDED LEFT TURN LANE TURNING LEFT INTO, UH, PERCU AND BOULEVARD.
UH, THAT IMPROVEMENT OF THAT LEFT TURN LANE THERE WAS ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED IN THE TOWNSHIP'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
UH, SO THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR SOME TIME.
SO THAT WILL BE, UM, COMPLETED BY, BY THE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE CENTER LEFT TURN LANE, UH, THROUGH 29.
UM, AGAIN, NO COMMENTS, UH, WERE RECEIVED THAT WERE SURPRISING TO US, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESS THOSE AND WE'LL BE MOVING THROUGH, UH, REVISING THOSE STUDIES AND WE'RE STARTING OUR DESIGN, UM, IN THE COMING WEEKS.
ERIC, UH, TELL US ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT.
I, UH, I'M A LAND PLANNER, UH, OF AN EXPERTISE IN EVALUATING DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS.
UM, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE, UH, ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW IS A FISCAL IMPACT SUMMARY TABLE THAT, UH, SUMMARIZES THE IMPACTS BY EACH CONDOMINIUM UNIT, UH, THAT WERE SHOWN ON THE PLAN.
THE, THE CONDO UNIT ONE CONSISTS OF 175 UNITS CONDO, UNIT TWO, THAT IS 297 UNITS, AND THE IMPACTS ARE TOTALED UP IN THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN.
UM, THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED NUMBERS REPRESENT THE NET FISCAL IMPACTS TO EACH THE TOWNSHIP AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT PROJECT COMPLETION.
UM, THIS IS BASED ON THE TOWNSHIP'S MOST RECENT BUDGET AND TAX RATES, UH, THAT WERE ADOPTED IN EARLY DECEMBER.
UM, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A NET POSITIVE FISCAL IMPACT TO THE TOWNSHIP, TOTALING ABOUT $135,000 ANNUALLY.
AND, AND NET FISCAL IMPACT, UH, THAT'S POSITIVE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, TOTALING JUST OVER $1.1 MILLION ANNUALLY.
THAT'S, UH, REVENUES OVER COSTS IN EACH OF THOSE CASES.
UM, JUST LIKE TO MENTION THAT, UM, AS FAR AS SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN POPULATION IMPACTS GOES, WE UTILIZED, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S OWN ENROLLMENT PROJECTION DEMOGRAPHIC MULTIPLIERS THAT WERE MOST RECENTLY PUBLISHED IN NOVEMBER OF 2024 TO PROJECT THAT THERE WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 67 SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN, UH, RESIDING HERE.
THAT'S WHAT, UM, DRIVES THE COST THAT YOU SEE, UM, ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SIDE OF THINGS.
UH, JUST ABOVE THE, UH, THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED NUMBER UNDER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT METHODICAL IMPACT.
UM, WE BELIEVE THAT TO BE A FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE BASED ON THE APPLICANT, UH, AND THEIR OPERATING, UH, EXPERIENCE AND THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.
AND WITH THE COMPARISON THAT WE HAD DONE TO AUDUBON'S PROPERTY, UH, ARDEN AT PARKSIDE, UM, WE DERIVED SEPARATE MULTIPLIERS JUST, UH, ANECDOTALLY TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE AND ACTUALLY CUT THE PROJECTED NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN HALF, UH, COMPARED TO WHAT WE USED WITH TOWN, WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH, OWN MULTIPLIERS THAT WOULD RESULT IN ABOUT A, UM, HALF A MILLION DOLLAR REDUCTION IN COST TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IF THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.
UM, AND A NET FISCAL IMPACT APPROACHING $1.6 MILLION ANNUALLY AS OPPOSED TO THE 1.1, WHICH WE PROJECTED BOTH ARE FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT.
UM, WE CONSIDER THIS TO BE A TYPE OF A LAND USE THAT DOES NOT GENERATE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGED KIDS.
QUESTIONS, UM, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, THE SOUTH ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS THAT THERE'S NO, IS THERE NOT GONNA BE A LIGHT THERE? IS THAT TURN RIGHT ONLY, OR HOW DO YOU TURN LEFT INTO THAT OR WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT CENTER BE LIKE? THE SOUTHERN ACCESS IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED AS A FULL ACCESS MOVEMENT.
UM, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IN THE REVIEW LETTERS THAT WE'LL NEED TO ADDRESS WITH BOWMAN AND PENDOT,
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UH, TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S A, A SAFE MANEUVER.AGAIN, PROVIDING THE CENTER LEFT TURN LANE, UH, PROVIDES THAT REFUGE FOR ENTERING LEFT TURNS THERE.
UH, THE QUESTION, UH, HAS COME UP WITH REGARD TO, UH, THE CAPACITY.
UH, WE'VE DONE GAP STUDIES ALONG 29, MEANING DO PEOPLE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE BETWEEN VEHICLES TO GET OUT? UH, WE INDICATE THAT THEY CAN, UH, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION WITH OUR NEXT STUDY.
UH, BUT THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION.
AND THEN I, I, I CAN'T REALLY TELL BY ALL THE LINES ARE, ARE THE RED LINES WHERE YOU'RE EXPANDING THE, THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD.
SO IT'LL BE TWO LANES ON EITHER SIDE GOING UP, THE, THE, THE RED LINES INDICATED ON THE PLAN ARE THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY LINES, PENNDOT'S RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, THE EXPANSION OR THE, THE WIDENING WILL OCCUR ON PLAN NORTH, YOU KNOW, TO THE SITE SIDE.
WE'RE GONNA HOLD THE CURB LINE ON THE, WE CALL IT SOUTH SIDE OF 29, EAST SIDE OF 29, UH, WIDE TOWARDS THE SITE.
UM, IT PROVIDES FOR THE BEST ALIGNMENT AND IT REDUCES THE IMPACTS ON ON THAT.
UM, SO IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE TWO LANES, FOUR LANES TO EACH DIRECTION GOING TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, AND THEN THE CENTER LEFT TURN LANE, THAT'S YOUR FIVE LANE SECTION AT, I DOUBT THAT YOU'VE CONSIDERED THIS, BUT ONE AREA OF A HIGH LEVEL OF CONCERN OF MINE, AND THIS WAS WITH THE YERKEY STATION APARTMENTS GOING IN, WAS THERE AS YOU COME UP 29 FOR 4 22.
SO THIS DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT, OKAY, THEY'RE NOT SCHOOL AGED FAMILIES.
MAYBE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SINGLE PEOPLE.
THEY GET, THEY NEED TO GET TO WORK.
HOW ARE THEY GETTING TO WORK? THEY'RE GOING TO 4 22, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY TURN OUTTA THERE AND HEAD TOWARDS 4 22 TO GO TO, SO GO TO WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY WORK OR HEAD DOWN TO PHOENIXVILLE, WHO EVENTUALLY IS GONNA HAVE A RAILROAD LINE IN, RIGHT? AS YOU COME FROM 4 22 TOWARDS THIS ON 29 NORTH, HIT BOTTLENECKS WHEN YERKES GOES IN, MY ARGUMENT IS IF BOTTLENECKS, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA EXPAND IT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL.
SO THAT PROJECT ISN'T SOLVING THE PROBLEM OF BOTTLENECKING THE ROAD, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY.
MY ARGUMENT IS WHY WOULD YOU STOP AND NOT JUST MAKE IT FOUR LANES FROM FORT 22 THE WHOLE WAY UP THROUGH HERE? SO WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION WHEN PUTTING THIS MUCH DENSITY IN THIS AREA AND THAT MUCH TRAFFIC HEADING TOWARDS 4 22, REVIEWING FURTHER UP AND SOLVING THAT PROBLEM OF THAT CHOKE POINT, UM, THAT EXISTS TODAY THAT ISN'T GETTING SOLVED? RIGHT.
SO I, I'LL ANSWER IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.
ONE IS, AS YOU'RE GOING TO WORK IN THE MORNING, LET'S SAY PER YOUR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU'RE TRAVELING THROUGH THIS TO THE SOUTH, UH, TO GO TO 4 22, AND WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THE TOWN CENTER AND, AND THAT EXPANSIVE INTERSECTION THAT OCCURS DOWN THERE, THAT WHAT IS, WHAT REDUCES THE BOTTLENECK, SO TO SPEAK.
THE BOTTLENECK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE SINGLE LANE THAT AS YOU'RE COMING FROM 4 22, THE TYPICAL BOTTLENECKS THAT WE SEE OCCUR AT INTERSECTIONS.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LANES TO GET PEOPLE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THE FOCUS ON THESE INTERSECTIONS HERE TO REDUCE THAT BOTTLENECK TRAVELING UP THROUGH COLLEGEVILLE, BUT ALSO COMING DOWN THROUGH COLLEGEVILLE HERE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE SCOPE, BUT THAT WAS DETERMINED THROUGH OUR COORDINATION WITH BOWMAN AND PENDOT, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING THIS PI LINK.
UM, WE WEREN'T ASKED TO EVALUATE THAT SECTION OF ROADWAY.
UM, I CAN SEE WHAT WAS DONE FOR YERKES AND WHAT THEIR, UM, FINDINGS WERE THERE, UM, AND PROVIDE THOSE.
SO THE PLAN IS NOT TO CHANGE THAT BOTTLENECK.
WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE JUST GO BACK TO ONE SINGLE LANE.
THE WAY THAT IT'S PLANNED RIGHT NOW IS YOU'VE GOT ALL 4 22, YOU HAD THIS DIRECTION, YOU GET TO THE TOP OF THE HILL, IT GOES TO ONE LANE, WHICH IS ALREADY PEOPLE FLYING BY EACH OTHER.
IT WILL THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, IT WILL EXPAND BACK TO TWO LANES AT HOPWOOD ROAD, IT'LL SOLVE THAT INTERSECTION, OKAY.
WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE THE TWO LANES UP THROUGH HERE.
YEAH, IT'S HORRIBLE RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA ADD 500 MORE CARS ON THE ROAD HEADING THAT FROM THAT DIRECTION, PLUS UGI, HOW MANY DROP MY DAUGHTER OFF AT MOM? THAT IS MISERABLE.
SO TO ME, THAT'S ONE AREA OF CONCERN.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH YERKES, IF YOU, I MEAN, ED, WHEN WE LOOKED AT PARK HOUSE, WE DID MORE THAN JUST AROUND PARK HOUSE, RIGHT? IT'S THE SAME KIND OF SCENARIO THAT IT'S, THAT IF WE'VE GONE TO PUT IN, I DON'T LIKE HIGH DENSITY.
I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE CRAMMING A LOT OF UNITS IN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ZONING IS THERE.
UM, THE, THE YERKES MIXED USE PERMITS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE TO LIKE IT.
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I THINK IT'S A LOT OF UNITS.IT'S A LOT OF CARS IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY CONGESTED WITH A, WITH A ROAD THAT'S NOT BEING SOLVED ALREADY.
AND, AND WITH THE YERKES GOING IN, I THINK YOU'RE JUST COMPOUNDING THE ISSUE HERE.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ONE AREA OF CONCERN THAT I WOULD ASK TO BE REVIEWED FOR SURE.
UM, WHAT'S THE TOTAL HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING? YEAH, THEY'RE ALL UNDER, UM, YOUR ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT.
YOUR ORDINANCE LIMIT IS 60 FEET AND THEY'RE, UM, CLOSER TO 53, 54 FEET.
I MEAN, BACK TO THE, BACK TO THE WHOLE PARK HOUSE ARGUMENT, WE FOUGHT HARD TO KEEP THAT TO 35 FEET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE A LADDER TRUCK AND A FIVE PERSON CREW FOR A LADDER TRUCK TO GET TO THAT HEIGHT AND PAY A CREW AND USE THAT TRUCK.
BUT, UM, IT ADDS A LOT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES COSTS TO GO THAT HIGH.
SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THIS, SO I'M NOT, AGAIN, THE DENSITY, THE HEIGHT, I'M NOT SURE WHY APARTMENTS, WHY NOT CONDOMINIUMS,
WE'RE FOLLOWING THE SPIRIT OF YOUR ORDINANCE.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO REQUEST RELIEF FROM THE STANDARDS OF THE ORDINANCE.
WE FEEL THAT THIS, UM, MEETS THE MARKET VERY EFFECTIVELY.
IN FACT, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE TAKEAWAY IS, UH, THAT PAUL MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 13 ACRES OF DEVELOPED AREA HERE.
UM, YOUR ORDINANCE FOR MULTIFAMILY, I THINK WISELY GUIDES THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND THAT DENSITY TOWARDS ROUTE 29.
BUT WE COULD HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER PRODUCT ON OTHER PARTS OF THIS LAND.
WHAT'S THE PLAN WITH THE REST OF THE PROPERTY? NOT YOU SAW IT, IT'S TO LEAVE IT IN IT'S, UH, UNDEVELOPED STATE.
IS THAT, I THINK THAT'S, IS THAT, CAN THAT BE DEDICATED, THAT IT CAN NEVER BE DEVELOPED? OR CAN IT BE DEVELOPED DOWN THE ROAD? IT'S JUST NOT DEVELOPED IN THIS PLACE.
IT'S NOT, IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED DOWN THE ROAD.
IT, IT, IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED.
I THINK THIS QUESTION CAME UP IN PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR, THERE'S ANOTHER COMPANY AT THE TABLE WITH ME.
UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T MAKE A COMMITMENT TONIGHT, BUT I'M, I'M, WE CAN HAVE THAT CON CONVERSATION.
THE OTHER THING YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THAT WE DID GET A REVIEW BY THE TOWNSHIP FIRE MARSHAL AND HE HAS PROVIDED A NUMBER OF THINGS IN HERE BASED UPON THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
SO THERE'S NO CONCERN ON HIS END ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
YEAH, I HAD A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE SAFETY VERY, VERY, UM, MUCH TO HEART.
NEITHER WE NOR, UM, OUR COLLEAGUES AT AUDUBON, YOU KNOW, AUDUBON IS IN YOUR MARKET AND A LOCAL COMPANY.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT 90 YEARS AS MIKE MENTIONED OF, OF HISTORY AND OUR FOUNDATION OWNED, UM, IN PENNSYLVANIA.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND SAFETY ARE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND THAT'S BEEN A PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS.
THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE, ERIC'S RIGHT, WE'RE PRETTY FAR AHEAD ON PLANNING TRAFFIC.
WE KNOW THIS CONDITION, THIS HOURGLASS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SITE HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS IS A, A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL LEVEL OF OFFSITE WORK THAT THAT IS GONNA BE TIED TO THIS PROJECT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT POINTS TO, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING GENERATED HERE.
WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH PENDI WITH, UH, YOUR CONSULTANT AND, UH, TPD.
I WONDER IF PENNDOT'S CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SPOT AT THE TOP OF THERE.
THEY'RE VERY, VERY, VERY WELL I'VE, I'VE MET IN HARRISBURG WITH TWO DEPUTIES AT PENNDOT ABOUT THIS QUARTER.
UM, THEY'RE VERY WELL FROM HARRISBURG TO THE, THE DISTRICT.
THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
SO WHAT'S THEIR, I GUESS BACK TO TOM'S POINT, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU AND Y CAN WE, WE ARE COORDINATING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ERIC'S DESIGN TAKES INTO ACCOUNT WHAT YERKES IS PROPOSING.
UM, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST, WE'RE CLOSER TO THE BEGINNING.
WE GOT THE FIRST ROUND OF COMMENTS ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
I DON'T THINK THAT SPECIFIC CONDITION WAS POINTED OUT.
UM, I THINK IT SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD.
IT'S A STATE ROAD AND, UM, THERE'S REALLY THREE OF YOU IN THIS.
THERE'S, UH, THE
AND I'M JUST GONNA ECHO WHAT, UH, EVERYBODY'S SAYING HERE.
IT MAKES NO SENSE NOT TO DO IT.
NOW IF WE'RE GONNA FIX THAT ROAD, WE MIGHT AS WELL FIX IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH FOUR LANES WITH A TURNING LANE.
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UM, DOWN HERE AT THE COLLEGE OF THE LINE, THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT HAS A, UH, CONCRETE RETAINING WALL RIGHT UP AGAINST THE ROADWAY.HOW, HOW'S THAT GONNA BE DEALT WITH? IS ARE YOU PURCHASING? I I COULDN'T COUNT SIX OR SEVEN HOMES.
THAT WILL BE, THAT YOU'RE BUYING OUT HERE ALONG THE YEAH, THERE'S THE, THE TRACK, THE 29 ACRE TRACK IS SIX HOMES.
UM, WE HAVE ALL OF THEM UNDER CONTRACT.
WE BOUGHT, UM, UH, THREE OF THEM I THINK ARE OWNED OUTRIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THE PRO, THERE IS A BUSINESS IN COLLEGEVILLE, PROGRESSIVE ICARE.
I'VE, I'VE MET WITH MR. SLO HERE, MET, UH, HIS WIFE CAME TO THE, UM, MEETING THAT WE HAD IN COLLEGEVILLE.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A RIGHT OF, THERE'S A PEN OUT RIGHT OF WAY THAT GOES BEYOND THE PARKWAY, RIGHT.
THE DESIGN IS NOT THERE YET TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN SPECIFICITY.
I THINK IF ANYTHING'S IMPACTED THERE THOUGH, IT WOULD BE THAT RETAINING WALL.
UM, IS THAT, IS THAT IN MY TOWNSHIP OR IS THAT IN THAT'S COLLEGEVILLE.
IT'S THE ROAD COLLEGE BECAUSE THEIR ROAD, THEY'RE GONNA BE STUCK WITH THE REAL PROBLEM.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM IF THEY HAVE TO EXAMINE THAT MAIN TO GET THE, TO GET THE POLE THE POLE RIGHT AWAY FOR JUST THAT THE ROAD GOES NARROW COLLEGE.
WELL, I, I JUST, UNITS ARE AFFECTING THAT.
NO CONTROL, I THINK BETWEEN THE THREE OF YOU THAT WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT WHOLE ROADWAY FIXED.
AND IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THERE WERE A MEETING OF ALL THOSE PARTIES.
AND I KNOW JEFF HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET YOUR FOLKS TOGETHER.
SO THAT, SO LET'S, LET'S WORK ON THAT.
AND UH, WHERE, WHERE, UH, CAN YOU PUT THE ONE ON WHAT SHOWS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AGAIN? WHERE'S THE TRAIL THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WE'RE CARRYING ACROSS AT THE PER INTERSECTION? IS IT JUST UH, IT'S NOT DEPICTED THERE.
'CAUSE THE YYS HAS ALREADY AT THE HOPWOOD INTERSECTION GOING TO CARRY THE TRAIL THAT COMES DOWN, UH, HIGHWOOD ROAD ACROSS TO THE
SO I KNOW, I MEAN, OTHER THAN JUST REGULAR PEDESTRIAN RIGHT AWAY PEOPLE CROSSING THE STREET THERE, I'M NOT SURE ANYTHING MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE IN, IN
I THINK THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WITH THE TOWNSHIP TO EXPLORE WITH JEFF AND, AND, AND YOUR TEAM AT, AT, AT BOWMAN TO JUST EXPLORE THAT.
AND WE WILL BE MEETING WITH JEFF BETWEEN TENTATIVE AND PRELIMINARY AND JEFF'S GONNA TELL US WHERE WANTS THE TRAILS.
WE HAVE NO REASON NOT TO GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANTS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT ROADWAY IS THE MAJOR, THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THE BOARD, I WAS ON THE BOARD END OF THE YEAR BEFORE I JOINED, MADE THAT WHOLE ENTERPRISE DISTRICT IN THERE IS TO PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL FIX THAT CARD OF 29.
AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT, THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS THING.
AND UH, WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT DONE.
THESE TWO WATER FEATURES ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, ARE THOSE EXISTING TODAY? THE POND AND THE STREAM THERE? THEY OH YES, VERY MUCH SO.
ARE THEY CONSIDERED FLOOD PLAINS? THAT IS, YES.
UM, THE, THE POND KNOW THE, UM, STREAM HAD IS A FLOODPLAIN AROUND IT IF THAT'S, THAT'S MAPPED ON THEIR PLANT.
AND THEN QUESTION ABOUT HOW IT'S BEING DIVIDED BY TWO DIFFERENT, UM, DEVELOPERS.
THE TOP ONE IS BOND AND HIGH, HIGH TOP AS LEAST BOTTOM THREE.
DO THEY WORK TOGETHER OR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE? THEY'LL BE SEAMLESS TO THEM.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, WE WILL HAVE A, UM, CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVE EQUAL REPRESENTATION BY THE TWO COMPANIES.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER TO MANAGE THIS PROPERTY.
AND THEN QUESTION PARKING LOT OR PARKING UNITS 1.7.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? WHY WOULDN'T IT JUST BE TWO? I MEAN THAT ACTUALLY, I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOUR, YOUR ORDINANCE IS VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THAT REGARD.
YOU'D SEE LESS, YOU'D SEE LESS IMPERVIOUS SPACE ON THIS PLAN IF YOU WERE CLOSER TO THE NORM.
WE, WE TYPICALLY SEE 1 5, 1 7 IS, IS A PRETTY HIGH RATIO.
I DON'T KNOW ANDY, YOU NO, WE AGREE.
AND THEN THE SIX STORY UNIT THAT STILL IS UNDER THE ORDINANCE, THAT ONE, THAT'S THE U-SHAPE ON THE LEFT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE EXPLORING IS, UM, BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GRADES THERE.
WE, WE WANT TO DO AS LITTLE CHANGES TO THE NATURAL GRADES AS WE NEED TO.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS SLOPING DOWN IN THAT AREA TOWARDS THE, UM, TOWARDS THE UNDEVELOPED KIND OF OPEN SPACE.
SO IT, IT ALLOWS US, IF WE HAVE A BASEMENT LEVEL ON THAT BUILDING, IT ALLOWS US TO, UM, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GRADES, NOT HAVE ANY RETAINING WALLS TO THE WEST OF THE SITE.
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WILL BE SOME RETAINING WALLS ON EACH SIDES OF THE BUILDING, BUT NOTHING TO THE WEST OF THE SITE UNITS TO GO DOWN 4 72.OF COURSE WE ALWAYS WANT LESS DENSITY.
I KNOW YOU'RE FLINCHING, BUT FOUR 70 TWOS REALLY PACKING THEM IN THERE.
ARE ANY OF THESE BUILDINGS OR PARKING LOT LIKE ON THE FLOOD PLANE OR ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE STORM WATER BASED OFF ALL THE FLOODING MOST LIKELY HAVE IN THIS AREA.
I THE, THERE, THERE IS SOME PARKING, UM, AT THE, UM, SORT OF SOUTHWEST CORNER IN THE FLOOD PLAIN ONLY PARKING.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN ON THIS PLAN TO, TO MINIMIZE ANY IMPACTS TO FLOOD PLAIN, UM, TO WETLANDS.
THERE ARE, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF DISTURBANCE IN THE NORTH.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DEP.
UM, SO YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME, IT IS PERMISSIBLE, IT'S ALLOWABLE, IT'S PERMISSIBLE UNDER YOUR ORDINANCE.
AND, UM, STORM WATER CONTROLS AND DESIGNS GONNA TAKE ALL THAT INTO YOU ACT BY A SPECIAL EXCEPTION ARE PERMISSIBLE.
WHAT'S IS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO WELL, THE PARKING USE WITHIN THE FLOOD CONSERVATION.
SO DO WE HAVE TO GIVE THE, LIKE PERMIT, PERMIT NEEDS TO VOTE ON IT? OR LIKE CAN SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS IS ZONING HEARING BOARD PROCEEDING AND HAS THAT HAPPENED ALREADY? NO, THAT, THAT HAPPENS UNDER YOUR ORDINANCE.
THAT HAPPENS UM, TOWARDS THE END OF, THERE'S A NUMBER OF STEPS AND CRITERIA THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE GO ZONING BOARD BEFORE, SO YEAH.
I THINK ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 472 APARTMENT UNITS HERE AND WE'VE MET WITH OUR NEIGHBORS ON BOTH SIDES.
AND YOU HAVE ONE COMMENT TONIGHT CONCERNING THE, THE TRAIL RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, I JUST THINK IT'S, AND IT'S IN COMPLETE COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR YMU ORDINANCE WAS ONLY ADOPTED A FEW YEARS AGO AS 2019.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T COMPLY WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE LETTERS.
AND TO BILL'S POINT, WE SWITCHED THE ZONING SO THE ROAD FIXED AND THAT'S STILL NOT FIXED AT THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE.
SO, AND JUST BECAUSE THERE IS ONE PERSON HERE DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING ALL THESE QUESTIONS.
SO I STILL THINK WE ARE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE PUSHING BACK ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
THE DOG PARK, WOULD THAT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR IS THAT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY? THAT'S JUST FOR THE RESIDENCE.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? AND YOU GUYS ARE JUST LOOKING FOR TENTATIVE SKETCH ON THIS, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T HAVE A FULL ENGINEER DRAWING.
YOU'VE HEARD ALL OF OUR CONCERNS THEY'LL BE CONSIDERED BETWEEN NOW AND PRELIMINARY.
NO ONE HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
UH, ASK FOR MOTION FOR WITHOUT RESOLUTION.
2025 DASH EIGHT GRAND TENTATIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR THE HIGH REAL ESTATE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
1331 DASH 1365 SOUTH COLLEGEVILLE ROAD.
ANYBODY
I ALL THOSE, UH, ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO.
I WILL CALL THE ROLE SUPERVISOR.
SUPERVISOR STEVENS, HOW DO YOU VOTE? NO.
SUPERVISOR YEAGER, HOW DO YOU VOTE? NO.
SUPERVISOR SADLER, HOW DO YOU VOTE? YES.
SUPERVISOR SILER VOTED YES AND I VOTE YES.
OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPOINT A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM FIRM TO PERFORM THE TOWNSHIP.
OUR NEXT PIECE OF BUSINESS IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2025 DASH OH NINE APPOINTING A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM TO PERFORM THE TOWNSHIP'S 2024
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AUDIT.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION 2025 DASH NINE APPOINTING A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM TO PERFORM THE TOWNSHIP'S 2024 AUDIT.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.
AND NUMBER SEVEN, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 10 PERTAINING TO DESTRUCTION OF VARIOUS TOWNSHIP RECORDS.
DO WE WANT EXPLAIN THIS ONE? YEAH.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION, THE PENNSYLVANIA HISTORIC AND MUSEUM COMMISSIONS, MUNICIPAL RECORDS RETENTION MANUAL THAT OUTLINES, UM, A RETENTION PERIOD SET IN YEARS FOR ANY OF THE THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL RECORDS THAT WE COULD BE IN POSSESSION OF.
UH, EVERY JANUARY, FEBRUARY, WE COME TO THE BOARD AS PRESCRIBED THAT MANUAL SEEKING YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO DELETE RECORDS THAT ARE BEEN STORED BEYOND THEIR RETENTION TIME.
UH, THOSE THIS YEAR INCLUDE ADMINISTRATIVE FINANCE AND PURCHASING RECORDS, FIRE, PAYROLL AND PERSONNEL RECORDS AS OUTLINED IN THE RESOLUTION.
HOW LONG DO WE MAINTAIN? HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO KEEP RECORDS FOR? UH, SOME INDEFINITELY.
UH, THEY'RE ALL OUTLINED IN THE, IN THE OKAY.
AND THIS IS PAPER AND ELECTRONIC? IT IS BOTH PAPER AND ELECTRONIC.
IF WE TAKE A PAPER RECORD AND STORE IT ELECTRONICALLY, WE DISCARD THE PAPER.
WE DON'T COME TO YOU 'CAUSE WE'VE RESTORED 'CAUSE WE'VE RETAINED THE, UH, ELECTRONIC VERSION OF IT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GUT RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 10 PERTAINING TO THE DESTRUCTION OF VARIOUS TOWNSHIP RECORDS.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
AND A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISING AND SALE OF TOWNSHIP OWNED EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING OUR LOCAL, OUR BUFFALO.
I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA SELL OFF THAT WATER BUFFALO.
SO WE MET ON THAT WATER BUFFALO, DIDN'T WE? WE DID DEPEND ON THE WATER ABOUT BELOW, UH, DURING IDA.
UM, SO PRIOR TO TO COMING TO THIS CONCLUSION, UH, WE'VE, UH, SPOKEN WITH A LOCAL POOL FILL COMPANY WHO'S COMMITTED TO US THAT THEY WILL SUPPLY A TRAILER ANYTIME WE NEEDED IT.
UH, WE WOULD ONLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FILLING IN UP WATER.
THEY WOULD ACTUALLY FILL IT, WE'D HAVE TO PAY FOR THE WATER.
UM, AND THEY WOULD WANT TO BE THE ONES HAULING IT IN AND OUT INSTEAD OF US.
BUT IT'S A TRACTOR TRAILER, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES ANYWAY.
SO IT, IT SAVES US FROM A STORAGE PROBLEM, WHICH WE HAVE WITH THIS.
'CAUSE IT ALWAYS HAS TO BE INSIDE AND OPEN SO IT DOES A GOOD MOLD DIRTY AND ALLOWS US ON THE, HOPEFULLY BEFORE, UM, RETIRE, EVER USE THE WORD
SO I'M JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, THE THE POOL COMPANY, IS THAT TRUCK 300 GALLONS IS, IT'S PROBABLY 6,000 GALLONS.
IT'S AQUA DOG, GALLON OF POTS DOWN.
SO THE WHOLE, IT'LL FILL ONCE, UH, WE FILL, WE FILL DURING IDA UM, WE FILL THIS MAYBE TWO TIMES, THREE TIMES.
THE, THE, NOT THE, THE ONE WON'T BE DRINKING WATER.
IT'S PRIMARILY USED TO THE FLUSH TOILETS IF NECESSARY.
SOME USED TO, TO, UH, PUSH DOWN THE WELLS A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT, THEY DIDN'T GIVE THEM SUFFICIENT WATER THAT THEY NEEDED.
BUT MOSTLY THEY USED IT TO CLEAN, UH, FIVE GALLON BUCKETS.
THEY WERE CLEANING THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT HAD GOTTEN SO MONEY AND DIRTY AND THE PROPERTY OUTSIDE.
SO, WELL, EVERYBODY'S DOWN THERE ON WELLS FOR THE MOST PART.
SO THEY WERE USING, UH, AND, AND THEY DID HAVE ELECTRIC FOR A LONG TIME.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE USING THE WATER FOR.
WE HAD TWO 'EM POSITIONED DOWN THERE.
THE OTHER ONE WAS THE WATER BUFFALO, WHICH IS DOWN IN PORT PROVIDENCE.
AND HONESTLY THE AMERICAN WATER BUFFALO, UH, THE AMERICAN WATER GOT VERY LITTLE USE.
AND THE OTHER ONE, LIKE I SAID, THEY GET SOME USE.
BUT THIS, THIS IS A, A BETTER SOLUTION.
WE DON'T HAVE TO STORE, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
WE'LL GET MORE WATER DOWN THERE AND, UH, WE, WE ACTUALLY GET NEEDED STORAGE SPACE HERE IN THE TOWNSHIP.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO WITH THAT COMPANY TO KIND OF MAKE, MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD AS FAR AS PUTTING A RATE ON PAPER? OWNERSHIP CHANGED.
I'M JUST THINKING 20 YEARS DOWN WE CAN DO AN MOU WITH THEM.
WE DISCUSSED THE OU WITH THEM.
UH, THEY WERE NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, HONESTLY.
THEY WEREN'T BUY THE, THEY WANTED THE WATER BUFFALO.
UM, WE'LL DO OUR BEST FOR YOU TO GET IT.
YOU, BUT, UM, YEAH, I'M JUST THINKING LONGER TERM IF TO MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD THAT WE'RE COMMITTED.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE, WE PAY THEM FOR THE USE, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND IT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN TODAY, BUT JUST NO, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO AN M OOU WITH THEM SO THEY, THAT IT'S, IT'S ON WITH BOTH SIDES.
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OTHER COMPANIES THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO US THAT THEY, THEY, WE CALL THEM BAR.JUST PAY FOR THE WORD WE WANT.
WHY THOSE COMPANIES ARE WILLING MENTION EQUIPMENT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE OF TOWNSHIP OWNED EQUIPMENT AS NOTED ON THE SCREEN.
ALRIGHT, NOW CONSULTANT REPORTS AND OUR MANAGER DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS FIRST 90 10.
[CONSULTANT REPORTS]
UH, OUR CONSULTANT REPORTS? OKAY.UM, THE KEOKUK PROJECT, THE N WALL REPLACEMENTS DONE AND COMPLETE.
THE MILL AND OVERLAY ALL HAPPEN WEATHER DEPENDENT LATER IN THE SPRING.
UM, SO THE ROAD'S OPEN AT THIS POINT NOW.
AND THE ANDERSON FARM LOOP TRAIL IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WHEN'S THE COMPLETION DATE ON THAT? ANDERSON? WHICH ONE? THE, THE LOOP TRAIL? YEAH.
UM, THEY GOT A PROJECT EXTENSION, UM, FOR THAT.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE? UM, EXCUSE ME.
SO THE, THE POLICING FIRE, UH, ANNUAL BLOOD DRIVE IS ON JANUARY 28TH.
UM, YOU CAN, UH, IT'S ON ALL THE WEBSITES.
UM, IT'S ON FACEBOOK THROUGH ANY OF OUR SITES.
UM, BUT WE'RE STILL IN NEW YORK.
SOME DONORS, PEOPLE THAT WILL COME HERE.
UM, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES LOOK TO US AND SAY, WE WANT TO BEAT UP THE PROVINCE.
SO, QUITE FRANKLY, UM, WE DON'T WANT THAT HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, ANYBODY OR YOU KNOW, YOUR ORGANIZATIONS AND YOU WANT, GUESS THE WORD PLEASE BY ALL MEANS IT, UH, ON THE 28TH, FROM ONE TO SIXTH.
JANUARY 28TH, ONE TO SIXTH OF BLOOD DRIVE RIGHT HERE AT THE TOWN.
YOU GET, YOU GET TO PICK IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR FIRE YOU, YOU GET TO PICK RIGHT
OH, ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T DO IT LAST YEAR EITHER.
UM, WHO WON THE LAST ONE? AND WE TIED
WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD END.
WE HAVE ONE, UH, OF OUR MONTHLY DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER IMPROVEMENT GUARANTEE REDUCTION LIST TO APPROVE.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THERE.
YOU'RE NEVER GETTING OUTTA THAT BUILDING.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MONTHLY DEVELOPER DEVELOPER APPROV GUARANTEE REDUCTION LIST AS FOLLOWS.
ITEM A ONE 15 EAST LINUX FIELD TRAP ROAD RELEASE NUMBER ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $36,730 AND 45 CENTS.
AND, UH, DO WE HAVE A REPORT FROM OUR SOLICITOR? NO.
[SUPERVISORS COMMENTS]
THE TIME FOR SUPERVISOR COMMENTS.HE, NO, I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE PARK AND REC, UM, CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO EXPAND IT.
WERE WE GOING TALK ABOUT THAT, THAT LAST MEETING? IS IT GONNA GO FROM SEVEN TO NINE OR? WELL, WE, YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT ADDING ONE AND THEN I, I HAD A FEELING THAT THE LAW REQUIRED AN ODD NUMBER AND IT DID.
SO IT WOULD EITHER BE LEAVING IT OR GOING TWO.
I DIDN'T CREATE THE ORDERS 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO GO TWO, ADD TWO SLIDES.
I MEAN, WE CAN DO IT, BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
WE HAD ONLY TALKED ABOUT ADDING MORE ELAINE.
THERE'S ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES I THINK WE HAVE IN THE PARK ORDINANCE THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO CONSOLIDATED.
SO WE'RE GETTING A LIST OF ITEMIZED, OTHER ITEMIZED THINGS IN THAT ORDINANCE SO WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE.
DO YOU THINK THAT'LL BE READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING? UH, WE DO.
YOU, DO YOU WANT THAT TO GO TO NINE? I'D LOVE SUE'S OPINION TOO.
I MEAN, YOU COULD ALWAYS USE MORE PEOPLE ON THAT, ON PARTNER BACK.
I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE SO MANY THINGS GOING ON ABS.
A LOT OF THE PARK REC BOARD, UM, IT'S A WORKING POSITION FOR THE MOST PART.
YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
UM, IT'S NOT FOR THE FAINTED PART AS MARIA CAN, UM, DIVULGE FOR YOU.
BUT IF WE MOVE IT ANY FURTHER UP, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO NINE.
I BELIEVE WE WOULD NEED TWO PEOPLE.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I THINK SO.
I THINK I COULD USE THE EXTRA SET OF HANDS.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE COMMITTED PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO HELP OUT AND SEE WHAT WE DO.
UM, I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE ONE PERSON IN
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MIND, SO WE WOULD JUST NEED ANOTHER PERSON.SEEMS LIKE YOU NEED MORE HELP BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY EVENTS.
SO, AND WE CAN VOLUNTEER EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT ON THE PARK BOARD.
IS SHE TALKING US? I'M TALKING TO EVERYBODY WHO'S LISTENING.
SO THAT'S A YES OR WE'LL GET THAT COORDINATED WITH WHATEVER OTHER CHANGES SUE'S TAKING OF HAVE A SINGLE ORDINANCE FOR YOU ALL AT ONE TIME.
I JUST WANNA SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THE ROAD CREWS.
UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD SNOW MUCH LATELY AND I, UH, WAS ALL THE WAY DOWN TOWARDS B BRINMAR BACK TODAY AND IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
AND I WILL SAY THAT UPPER PROVIDENCE IS THE CLEANEST AREA.
UM, ROAD WISE THAT, UH, THAT I SAID I WAS EVEN BRAGGING ABOUT IT TO MY DAUGHTER AS SHE WAS RIDING ALONG WITH ME.
SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT PARTICIPATED.
THE ROADS ARE SAFE, THE ROADS ARE CLEAN.
IT'S GOOD FOR THE BUSES, IT'S GOOD FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY DID IT THROUGH TOM'S LOSS TOO, SO I WAS THINKING OF THEM.
UM, COUPLE THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN BEFORE WE ALL SEE EACH OTHER AGAIN.
GO BIRDS THROUGH A PLAYOFF GAME AND, AND, UH, HAPPY VALENTINE'S EVERYBODY.
TAKE YOUR SWEETIE OUT FOR DINNER HERE AND UP FOR DINNER.
[UPCOMING EVENTS]
UPCOMING EVENTS FOR SUPERVISORS MEETING SCHEDULED.WE WILL MEET ON FEBRUARY 18TH AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND MARCH 17TH AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S AN MOMENT TO WEAR GREEN.
UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, FEBRUARY 5TH AND FEBRUARY 19TH.
AND, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACTION ITEMS. AND, UH, CHECK ONLINE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT OTHER APPLICATIONS MAY BE RECORDED.
THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, ENVIRONMENT ADVISOR ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY, UH, COUNCIL MEETS MARCH 19TH.
ARCS AND REC MEETS FEBRUARY 12TH, 6:00 PM AND THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY MEETS, UH, FEBRUARY 6TH AT 7:00 PM UH, THERE ARE NO ZONING HEARING BOARD MEETINGS SCHEDULED AT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.