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ALL RIGHT.WELCOMING EVERYONE TO THE OPEN PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING FOR JULY 15TH.
[CALL TO ORDER]
FOR THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT SECOND ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE.UH, I'LL CALL FOR MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD AGENDA.
[MOTION TO APPROVE BOARD AGENDA]
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD AGENDA.MAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
[SPECIAL PRESENTATION]
WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION BY THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY.I AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY NORRISTOWN PUBLIC LIBRARY.
AND WE WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF BURG BRANCH AND WITH ME TONIGHT I HAVE ADDIE BRADY, WHO IS THE BRANCH MANAGER FOR THE BURG BRANCH, AND SHE'S GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION FOR US.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING.
AND AS KAREN SAID, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANKS FOR THE BOARD FOR THEIR DONATION, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE OFFERING OUR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY COMPLETELY FOR FREE.
AS OF JULY 1ST, WE HAVE OFFERED NEARLY 200 UNIQUE PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN SERVING, OOH, I'M SORRY.
SERVING OVER 6,000 YOUNG PEOPLE FROM STORY TIMES TO MUSIC SHOWS WITH MR. DAN.
WE LOVE PROVIDING PROGRAMS THAT BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, TURNING OUR ATTENTION DIRECTLY TO UPPER PROVIDENCE.
WE ARE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE ON THE SUMMER READING KICKOFF CONCERT ATTRACTED 230 ATTENDEES THIS YEAR.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THEM AGAIN ON AUGUST 7TH FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION OF KIT'S INTERACTIVE THEATER, A FUN AND INTERACTIVE SHOW THAT BRINGS FAIRYTALES ALIVE.
WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THIS FOR THIS CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DATE.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE LATTER HALF OF THE YEAR.
WE ARE RECENTLY FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE THE ROBERT L AND AGNES COOK BARD FOUNDATION'S GRANT, AND WILL SOON BE ADDING TO THE LIBRARY'S COLLECTIONS, THE ROYERSFORD LIBRARY PLANS TO BRING BACK ITS SUCCESSFUL MOBILE HOTSPOT PROGRAM, WHICH ALLOWS PATRONS TO CHECK OUT MOBILE WIFI HOTSPOTS FREE OF CHARGE AND CARRY INTERNET SERVICE WITH THEM WHEREVER THEY GO.
WE WILL ALSO BE ADDING A COLLECTION OF HEALTH MONITORING EQUIPMENT AND SOME HOUSEHOLD TOOLS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THESE DEVICES FOR ALL.
AS ALWAYS, WE THANK THE UPPER PROVIDENCE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT, AND WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE AT THE LIBRARY VERY SOON.
THANK YOU AGAIN, AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MY BOARD PRESIDENT, PAUL DIANGELO FOR A FEW MORE COMMENTS.
I'M THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT THE WORKS FOR PUBLIC LIBRARY, WORKS FOR FREE PUBLIC LIBRARY, I SHOULD SAY.
AND, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE LIBRARY BOARD, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL, OBVIOUSLY, FOR ALL OF THE CONTINUED SUPPORT AT THE LIBRARY AND, UH, AND WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UH, AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS.
UH, MY KIDS ARE NOW 23 AND 25 YEARS OLD, SO THEY LONG AGO KIND OF STOPPED USING THE LIBRARY AND SOME OF THE, UM, THE REGULAR ACTIVITIES THERE.
BUT, UM, A NUMBER OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS STILL HAVE GRADE SCHOOL KIDS, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THEY SEE THE DIRECT EFFECT OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE, FROM THE TOWNSHIP.
UH, SO IT IS, IT'S OBVIOUSLY WITH A, A REAL HEARTFELT, UH, KIND OF WARMING, UM, ENDEARMENT THAT WE PARTICIPATE AS THE BOARD MEMBERS, RECOGNIZING THAT OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTING COMMUNITY MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE LOCAL AREA.
SO WE DO APPRECIATE, AS ADDIE HAD MENTIONED, THE CIRCULATION, UH, IS ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE COMMUNITY, OR EXCUSE ME, IN THE COUNTY, UH, AT THE RS FOR LIBRARY.
AND CONSIDERING THE LOCAL POPULATION, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A REALLY, UH, INCREDIBLE FEAT THAT, THAT ADDIE AND THE REST OF THE STAFF PRODUCE.
SO, UH, ON PART OF THE, AS PART OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AGAIN, WE REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, OBVIOUSLY NOT ONLY THE WORK THAT THE STAFF DOES, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE BOARD DOES TO SUPPORT THE, THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND THE, THE PATRONS OF THE LIBRARY.
SO, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS.
HOW MANY, HOW DOES IT GROW YEAR AFTER YEAR? UM, PEOPLE WHO USE THE LIBRARY INTERESTING TO SEE SOME OF THESE STATS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT.
SO OUR NUMBERS HAVE GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY, AND ACTUALLY, UM, I WOULD SAY AS HOUSING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY HAS GROWN, UH, FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT REASONS.
WE HAVE SEEN GROWTH IN CIRCULATION, GROWTH IN NUMBER OF PROGRAMS, UH, THE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT THE LIBRARY OFFERS, AS WELL AS THE ATTENDANCE.
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THE, I SHOULD SAY THAT THE, THE GROWTH IS SO LARGE THAT ACTUALLY WE REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE LOCAL CHURCHES, THE LOCAL VFW, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE LIBRARY TO UTILIZE SOME OF THEIR, UM, FACILITIES, UH, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE SUMMER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE.SOME ARE READING SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVITIES, UH, ACTUALLY EXCEED THE THRESHOLDS OF WHAT WE CAN SUPPORT AT THE BUILDING ITSELF.
AND ALSO, I THINK YOU WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER OFF THE TOP.
WHAT, DO YOU WORK WITH SUE HOFFMAN AND, OR WE HAVE BEEN, YEAH.
UH, WE ACTUALLY, WE PROBABLY HAD A GOOD YEAR LONG CONVERSATION WITH THEM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD KIND OF, UH, BLEND THE, THE SERVICES FROM THE ROERS FOR LIBRARY, AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO.
UH, THEY WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER SOME STORY TIME, SOME MUSIC PROGRAMS FOR YOUNGER CHILDREN.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE A, UH, A LENDING LIBRARY PER SE.
UM, WE KIND OF, AFTER LONG CONVERSATIONS, UH, LIKE I SAY, ALMOST A YEAR, WE KIND OF CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY WOULD KIND OF VENTURE OFF AND DO THEIR OWN THINGS.
UM, BUT WE DID HELP THEM, I WOULD SAY, WITH A LOT OF, IN, MAYBE NOT INSTRUCTIONS, BUT SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW THEY MIGHT KICK OFF VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. YEAH, THERE ARE, I THINK, IS IT THE, THERE'S A MUSIC PROGRAM THAT WE SHARE RESOURCES WITH, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I MENTIONED THAT, UM, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING THE SUMMER READING KICKOFF CONCERT.
WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL WE GET TO DO IT RIGHT OVER IN ANDERSON FARM PARK.
THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT BROUGHT US 230 PEOPLE THIS YEAR.
AND IT'S USUALLY A BIG BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE PEOPLE DANCE AND SING.
UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL ALSO BE HOSTING KIT'S, INTERACTIVE THEATER WITH THEM, WHICH, UM, IT'S A LOCAL WOMAN THAT SHE DOES PROGRAMMING AROUND THE COUNTY, AND SHE SORT OF DOES FAIRYTALES.
SHE BRINGS KIDS OUT OF THE AUDIENCE.
IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY FUN SHOW.
AND YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT GROWTH, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT ON YOUR, UM, GRAPHIC THAT I GAVE YOU AS WELL.
UM, 2023 CIRCULATION INCREASED BY 7% FROM 2022, AND OUR PROGRAM ATTENDANCE AND OUR NUMBER OF PROGRAMS INCREASED BY NINE AND 17 RESPECTIVELY.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS GROWING, AND IT'S A MASSIVE INCREASE AS WELL FROM PRE COVID NUMBERS.
SO WE'VE NOT ONLY RECOVERED, WE'VE THRIVED.
AND I SHOULD ALSO SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ADDIE, UH, AND THROUGH SOME SUPPORT WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS ACTUALLY HAS DONE IS WORKED WITH ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE SPRINGFIELD SCHOOL DISTRICT IN ORDER TO, UH, WAS IT, WITHIN THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE MADE SURE THAT ALL OF THE KIDS COMING INTO KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE ARE GETTING LIBRARY CARDS, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY COME TO THE LIBRARY, UH, MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE CHILDREN AS WELL AS THE PARENTS ARE AWARE OR AWARE OF SUMMER PROGRAMMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO KEEP, UH, THE YOUNGER KIDS REALLY INVOLVED IN READING AS OPPOSED TO THINGS THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR THUMBS AND VIDEO SCREENS.
UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY DRAG QUEENS OR, UM, BOOKS IN YOUR LIBRARY THAT ARE, WOULD BE CONSIDERED INDECENT FOR, UM, CHILDREN? UH, WE, WE DON'T DO, WE DON'T DO QUESTION AND ANSWER AT THIS POINT.
MS. LASKA, YOU CAN INQUIRE WITH THE LIBRARY DIRECTLY ON SA.
PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME WITH STUFF LIKE THIS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, WHERE DO YOU WANT I, I ACTUALLY HAD TO FIND HOW.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.UM, ANYONE WHO HAS A COMMENT AND WE KNOW THE DRILL THREE MINUTES, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES.
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FORWARD? TORY BRIGHT.THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY BOARD.
UH, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE ROYERS FORD LIBRARY.
UM, I LIVED RIGHT BEHIND THE LIBRARY RIGHT NEXT TO IT AT FOURTH OF WASHINGTON, UH, BEFORE I MOVED INTO THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
AND MY CHILDREN HAD GROWN AND LEARNED, AND BRILLIANCE HAS COME OUT OF THEM.
AND I CAN SAY PART OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE OF THE LIBRARY, AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR, UH, ON, ON THE, UH, DONATION.
UM, SO AGAIN, MY, MY NAME IS TORY BRIGHT.
I WANTED TO JUST, UH, UM, BRING TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION THIS AFTERNOON.
WE, UH, THE FRIENDS OF PARKHOUSE HAD SENT TO MR. UH, GARY BERMAN AND MR. RE SATANI A LETTER.
UM, WE'VE BEEN IN DIALOGUE WITH THEM SINCE THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT HEARING, UH, OF MAY 29TH.
AND WE DID CC THAT LETTER TO THE BOARD AS WELL AS TO MR. UH, GRACE AND TO, UH, MR. HALAK IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE TOWNSHIP, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WITH ALL THE MEMBERS TO REPRESENT THE OVERARCHING GOALS OF THE TOWNSHIP.
UH, WHICH AGAIN, IS AROUND HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE AS WE BELIEVE IS KIND OF THE CORE, UM, ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE'S ABOUT 15, 17 OR SO RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE, UM, AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY BASED ON THE INITIAL, UH, TEXT, UH, UH, HEARING, UH, OF MAY 29TH.
WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A PLANNING PROCESS, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A COLLABORATIVE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH, UH, WITH, UH, REUTERS FOR HOLDINGS AND MBR HOMES IN THE TOWNSHIP.
WE ARE ALSO, UH, FAMILIAR AND AWARE THAT THERE WAS A PETITION FILED, UH, AGAINST THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
IT'S NOT A PUBLIC DOCUMENT THAT I AM AWARE OF, BUT WE, UH, WE CHOSE AS THE ADVOCACY STEERING COMMITTEE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY, UH, IN, IN LIGHT OF, UH, THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE BOARD IS, UH, SUBJECT TO PROBABLY HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS PETITION.
UH, WE DID NOT ENDORSE THE PETITION.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE AWARE OF THAT.
THERE'S PUB, THERE'S PUBLIC NEWS.
UM, SO WE, WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT, UM, UNDER THE, THE EXISTING ZONING THAT, UH, THE NEW ZONING TEXT THAT WE FOLLOW THAT TO THE N DEGREE.
JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS A PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TWO WEEKS OR TWO MONTHS AGO, DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T ADHERE TO EVERYTHING.
AND THE, UH, THE REVIEW AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE WILL ACTUALLY BE, UH, WORKING WITH THE, THE, UH, DEVELOPER AND THE OWNER.
MARLENE LASKA, 1142 EGYPT ROAD.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MR. STARLING, IT HAS TO BE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE LIBRARIES.
I WAS ONLY TRYING TO FIND OUT WHETHER THE EXPERIENCE WAS GOING TO BE POSITIVE FOR OUR CHILDREN.
AND I DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT.
MAYBE I WAS ON THE LINE BECAUSE OF THE QUESTION AND ANSWER, BUT THE FACT THAT I WAS, I VISITED LIBRARY MULTIPLE TIMES WITH MY GRANDCHILDREN, I CAN ASSURE YOU AS A POSITIVE, AN EXPERIENCE.
YOU HAVE, THAT'S, THAT WAS ALL I WAS TRYING TO A CERTAIN AGENDA, AND BASED ON YOUR QUESTION, IT WAS NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT VERY QUICKLY.
WE ALSO HAVE A HUMAN RELATIONS ORDINANCE IN THIS TOWNSHIP AGAINST DISCRIMINATION.
SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE, TOO.
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YES, BUT AM I MAKING MYSELF CLEAR THAT, THAT WE DO NOT WANT THE LIBRARY TO HAVE BOOKS IN IT THAT ARE INAPPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN TO READ? IT'S, AND I, I AM ASKING THAT.IT IS, IS THAT THE CASE WITH WHERE HER LIBRARY THANK YOU.
YOU FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES NOT CONTROL THE LIBRARY TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
THEY WERE HERE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR SOMETHING TONIGHT.
WHATEVER ISSUES YOU HAVE WITH THEM, TAKE IT UP WITH THEIR BOARD, TALK TO THEM OUTSIDE THE ROOM.
BUT THAT IS NOT AN ITEM ON WHICH YOU CAN OFFER FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT HERE.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT]
THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO REPORT, UM, WAS HELD JUST PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING, THE TOPICS DISCUSSED FOR PERSONNEL REAL ESTATE AND LEGISLATION, UH, THE DUPLICATION LITIGATION.[APPROVAL OF BILL LIST]
GONNA ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THE BILL LIST.I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE BILL LIST FOR THE PERIOD JUNE ONE THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2024, IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,163,576 AND 58 CENTS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, FAVOR SAY AYE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE MINUTES.I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE LAST FOR SUPERVISOR MINUTE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JUNE 17TH, 2024 FOR SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
[OLD BUSINESS (ACTION/DISCUSSION ITEMS)]
UM, CONSIDER ENACTING ORDINANCE 6 0 7 REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 2 0 2 20.IT'S A PEDDLING AND SOLICITATION.
DID YOU WANT TO TEE THIS UP? GO OVER IT AT ALL.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S REALLY THE MAIN, THE MAIN THING ABOUT IT IS, IS SPECIFIC ADDITION OF THE, UH, DO NOT SOLICIT LIST THAT PEOPLE CAN SIGN ONTO.
AND THAT THE SOLICIT, THE PEOPLE WHO PEDAL WILL, ARE MADE AWARE OF WHEN THEY REGISTER.
UM, THE ONLY, THE ONLY, THE ONLY TIME IT WOULD PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, NOT SELLING A GOOD OR PRODUCT, BUT ARE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A, OF RELIGION OR A PHILOSOPHY OR A FAITH, UH, WHO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER, BUT THEY GENERALLY DO BECAUSE IT'S A SMART IDEA.
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS INVITED TO, IF THEY CHOSE NOT TO, THEY MIGHT ARGUABLY NOT KNOW ABOUT THE LIST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T, THEY, THEY DIDN'T CHECK IN.
WELL, THAT'S WHY THE ORDINANCE ALSO DOUBLE COVERS THAT BY SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO HONOR THE, THE SIGNAGE ON A PROPERTY.
IF IT'S POSTED, DO NOT SOLICIT AND POLI LIKE POLITICIANS.
IF NOT, DO THEY HAVE TO ALSO, THE, THE CON THEY HAVE TO HONOR, UM, AS WELL.
UH, THE CON CONFUS, THE AREA OF CONFUSION THAT WE ENCOUNTERED AT LEAST ONCE A FEW YEARS AGO WAS HOAS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A GROWING ISSUE IN THE UNITED STATES.
DIDN'T INTEND TO GO OFF ON THAT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY BUY A HOME IN AN HOA COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THE DAY THAT THEY SETTLE THERE, THERE'S ALL KIND OF RULES AND, YOU KNOW, PAPERS BEING GIVEN TO YOU, INCLUDING THE RULES OF THE HOA AND THE RULES OF THE HOA STATE THAT IF THE BOARD VOTES TO, TO PROHIBIT, UM, SOLICITING THAT IT APPLIES TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SOME STATES ARE ACTUALLY DEVELOPING LAWS THAT REQUIRE A FULL PAGE NOTICE TO A BUYER SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GIVING UP THEIR OWN PERSONAL, RIGHT.
OH, TO KNOCK ON THEIR OWN, TO NOT HAVE THEIR DOOR KNOCKED ON POT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S GONNA BE OUT THERE FOR A FEW YEARS.
HEY, JOE, HOW DOES THAT, UM, AFFECT, SAY LIKE SOMEONE THAT'S HOMELESS, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OUT ASKING FOR CASH OR MAYBE TRYING TO SELL WATERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A DOWNTOWN LIKE SAY PHOENIXVILLE DOES, IT DOESN'T COVER, IT DOESN'T COVER ANY OF THAT ACTIVITY THAT'S NOT AT SOMEONE'S PERSONAL HOME.
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THIS IS PROTECTING SOMEBODY'S RIGHTS AT THEIR PERSONAL DOOR.CAN I ASK HER A QUESTION ON THAT? SO, I'M SORRY.
SO MY SON WAS A SCOUT, SO I'M JUST THINKING OF BOY SCOUT SELL POPCORN, GIRL SCOUTS SELL COOKIES.
SO IS THAT CONSIDERED SOLICITING? DO THEY NEED TO REGISTER IN ORDER TO SELL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT? MM-HMM.
YES, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD NEED TO REGISTER.
SO THE LOCAL TROOPS FOR SCOUTS WOULD HAVE TO REGISTER AS SOLICITORS, OR DO THE INDIVIDUAL CHILDREN HAVE TO REGISTER IF THEY, IF, IF, IF THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT ON BEHALF OF ONE PARTICULAR, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD, BUT DEN OR WHATEVER, THEN THEY COULD REGISTER THAT WAY.
NOW WE'RE NOT TALKING AGAIN ABOUT SELLING OUTSIDE OF STOREFRONTS.
THIS IS, IF THEY'RE GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND PERSONAL HOMES AND KNOCKING AND SEEKING TO SELL THINGS, THEN YEAH, THEY TECHNICALLY ARE COVERED BY IT.
IS THERE SOME CLAMOR TO DO THIS? UH, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE CHIEF, THE CHIEF CONTACTED ME, UM, IT ALWAYS, IT TENDS TO BE AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR.
WE HAD LITIGATION A FEW YEARS AGO ON ONE OF THESE IN TERMS OF WHAT TIME THEY HAD TO STOP IN THE EVENING.
UM, AND, UH, I THINK THE CHIEF MUST HAVE GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS THAT MOTIVATED HIM.
HE CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF SINCE HE'S HERE.
BUT HE CONTACTED ME AND, AND ASKED ABOUT THIS.
AND, UH, HE HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SOME OF HIS OTHER CHIEFS AND LOOKED AT OTHER ORDINANCES AND, AND ASKED ME TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.
SO THE, NOT MUCH HAS REALLY CHANGED.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT JOE SAID REALLY, UM, ESSENTIALLY FALLS UNDER THE OLD ORDINANCE THAT THE CHANGE IS, UH, WE'VE NOW PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO OUR WEBSITE WHERE SOMEONE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, CLICK ON A, A QUICK LINK, FILL OUT THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND SPECIFICALLY SAY, I DO NOT WANT SOLICITORS AT MY HOME.
AND SO WE GENERATED A LIST THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
AND ONCE THE, UM, PEOPLE COME IN FOR, UH, PERMITS, THEY'RE JUST GIVEN THAT LIST OF ADDRESSES, ONLY, NOT NAMES, SAYING THESE PEOPLE DON'T, DO NOT WANT YOU KNOCKING ON THEIR DOOR.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE, THE, THE ONLY CHANGE.
SO WHENEVER SOMEONE SIGNS UP TO SOLICIT IN THE TOWNSHIP, THEY WILL RECEIVE THIS LIST OF THE DO NOT SOLICIT ADDRESSES.
WHEN THEY COME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A PERMIT, THEY WILL GET A LIST.
OKAY, DO WE CHARGE FOR THIS PERMIT? THERE ARE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERKINS.
AND THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE BOY SCOUTS, GIRL SCOUTS, FUNDRAISERS.
WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY BOY SCOUTS OR GIRL SCOUTS COME SO FAR.
BUT, UH, IF JOE WAS SAYING THAT THEY FALL INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS IF THEY DID COME, OKAY.
I SUPPOSE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE FEES THAT ARE CHARGING BY, IF THE FEES ARE, IF THEY'RE JUST COVERING OPERATIONAL COSTS.
I MEAN, I SUPPOSE YOU CAN WAIVE THEM IN SOME INSTANCES, BUT WE HADN'T EVEN EVER CONSIDERED THAT BECAUSE NOBODY, THERE'S NO SCOUTS HAD EVER, WELL, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.
I, I HAVE HAD GOOD GIRL SCOUT SCOUTS.
WE'VE NEVER, EVER, IN MY 30, ALMOST 33 YEARS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE GOTTEN A COMPLAINT ABOUT GIRL SCOUTS OR BOY SCOUTS SOLICITING.
UM, SO, UH, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, SO EVERYBODY WANTS TO, NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU'RE NOT TO COME IN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, NO ONE'S EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THEM THERE.
THERE'S JUST CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE JUST VERY AGGRESSIVE, UH, VERY RUDE, AND, AND SOMETIMES TURNS INTO, YOU KNOW, A CRIMINAL ACT.
UM, AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON.
AND I, I HEARD YOU ASK THE QUESTION, QUESTION, BUT POLITICAL SPEECH, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE CANVASSING FOR CANDIDATES OR NOT, YOU, YOU'RE NOT A SOLICITER.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? NO, WE'RE GONNA WAIT.
WE'VE GOTTA STICK TO THE RULES.
SO OTHERWISE EVERYBODY CAN JUST, I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP.
IT WAS, THANKS TORI, APPRECIATE THAT.
YOU WANNA PASS THE MOTION? ASK HIM FOR ONE.
DO WE WANNA AMEND IT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE GIRL SCOUTS AND BOY SCOUTS? SO WE DON'T WANNA CALL OUT.
JUST, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD REALLY RATHER NOT INVITE THE CHALLENGE.
MAYBE, MAYBE HOW, HOW THE CHIEF ENFORCES IT TO CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS IS DIFF IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL, BUT IF THEY ARE GOING DOOR TO DOOR SEEKING MONEY, UM, THEY WOULD BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE ORDINANCE AND THERE WOULDN'T BE A RATIONAL, UH, BASIS TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF, IF SOMEONE EVER DID CALL, AND OF COURSE OUR OFFICERS WOULD RESPOND, UH, I FINALLY HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT AN OFFICER WOULD JUST RESORT TO CITING THE CREW.
IT'D PROBABLY BE JUST A CONVERSATION AT THAT POINT SAYING, HEY LOOK, YOU KNOW, UM, SO I DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR COOKIES AND GIVE US 10 BOXES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
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THAT'S YOUR FEE.UM, BUT NO, UM, I DON'T, YEAH.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 6 0 7 REGARDING, UH, AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER TWO 20, PEDDLING AND SOLICITATION, INCLUDING THE CREATION OF A NEW SECTION TWO 20 DASH 11 TO ESTABLISH A DO NOT SOLICIT LIST.
[NEW BUSINESS (ACTION/DISCUSSION ITEMS)]
NEW BUSINESS.UM, CONSIDER RATIFICATION OF NEW THREE YEAR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION.
THIS IS THE LAST YEAR OF THE CURRENT YEAR OF THE FIRE UNION'S CONTRACT, UM, PURSUANT TO PENNSYLVANIA ACT ONE 11 FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, WE ENTERED INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE FIRE UNION.
I'M PLEASED TO REPORT TO THE BOARD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COME TO TERMS ON, UM, ALL THE CHANGES THAT MANAGEMENT WANTED AND THAT THE AS INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS WANTED.
UM, PRESIDENT ELLIS IN THE AUDIENCE, HE'S ALREADY EXECUTED THE AGREEMENT AND I REVIEWED THE TERMS WITH THE BOARD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, BE GLAD TO GO OVER ANY OF IT AGAIN, BUT, UM, THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRES, UH, THE LAST DAY OF 2024.
THE NEW CONTRACT WOULD BE FOR A THREE YEAR TERM, RUNNING THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
JUST WANT TO THANK THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS AND, UH, THE TOWNSHIP NEGOTIATING TEAM FOR DOING A GOOD JOB ON THIS AND GETTING IT DONE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION 20.
WAIT, WHERE AM I? UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RATIFY A NEW THREE YEAR COLLECTIVE BARGAIN AGREEMENT BETWEEN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION LOCAL 53 57 FOR THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.
ALRIGHT, NEXT, UM, ITEM UNDERNEATH BUSINESS IS CONSIDERATE DOCUMENT RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 24 AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE COMMONWEALTH FINANCING AUTHORITY, MULTIM MOLDER TRANSPORTATION GRANT OR BOARD MEMBERS.
ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH DELTA, OUR GRANT WRITERS IS THE, UM, THE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A GRANT STACKING STRATEGY TO IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION OF THE, UH, ROUNDABOUT AND BLACKROCK ROAD AND THE ROUTE ONE 13 BRIDGE.
SOME OF THIS MONEY'S ON THE PENNSYLVANIA TIP ALLOCATION.
WE HAVE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE, AND WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, PUTTING IN A REQUEST FOR THE, UH, C-F-A-M-T-F OF AROUND $3 MILLION.
WE HAVE A, UH, GRANT DEADLINE OF JULY 31ST, UH, 2024.
UM, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM, UH, SENATORS MOTH AND REPRESENTING WEBSTER AND SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING BOROUGHS OR LAWYERS FOR AND PHOENIXVILLE.
BUT, UM, I THINK THIS WILL BE READY FOR SUBMISSION PROBABLY IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
JUST NEED FORMAL, UH, BOARD APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION.
UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT, UH, THE PRO TOTAL PROJECT COST OF THIS ENTIRE, UM, INTERSECTION, UH, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE ROUTE ONE 13 AND THE ROUNDABOUT, IT'S ABOUT A LITTLE OVER $11 MILLION.
OUR STRATEGY IS A MULTIYEAR STRATEGY ALSO TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, UH, TO PROVIDE LOCAL, UH, LOCAL SHARE, BUT ALSO, UM, LOOKING AT, UH, VARIOUS GRANT, UH, CATEGORIES THROUGH THE MULTIMODAL FUND, THROUGH THE, UH, UH, PIN UP MULTIMODAL.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, VARIOUS GRANT SOURCES THAT WE'RE, UH, STITCHING TOGETHER TO TRY TO MAKE THIS A VIABLE PROJECT.
SO, YEAH, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE HAD OUR MEETING LAST WEEK, UH, WITH ROERS FOR HOLDINGS AND NVR RIGHT, TO TALK ABOUT PRE-CONSTRUCTION.
WE MADE IT CLEAR TO THEM THAT THESE GRANT MONIES WAS ESSENTIALLY MONEY THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO SPEND.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA EXPECT TRAILS AND ALL KINDS OF THAT'S CORRECT.
SO I WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT WE WERE IN THIS PROCESS BEFORE THIS DEVELOPMENT CAME AROUND AND THIS ROAD WOULD APPROVED REGARDLESS.
SO TIM, HOW MUCH WAS THE FOR OR IS IT FOR YOU? SAY, HOW MUCH IS THIS? THE GRANT THAT WE'RE ASKING, I THINK IS THE REQUEST.
THAT DOESN'T COVER THE FULL 11 MILLION, BUT THERE'S VARIOUS OTHER GRANTS THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL ASK FOR MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
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2024 DASH 24 AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A COMMONWEALTH FINANCING AUTHORITY MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION GRANT FOR THE FOUR POINT ROUNDABOUT AT BLACKROCK ROAD AND THE BRIDGE REHABILITATION ON ROUTE ONE 13.CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 25 SETTING FORTH CERTAIN PROCEDURES TO BE UTILIZED IN, UH, THE SELECTION OF INDIVIDUALS, PROFESSIONAL OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACTS PURSUANT TO ACT 44 OF 2 0 9 29.
MADAM CHAIR, THIS, UH, WAS A REQUEST OF OUR STATE AUDITOR GENERAL, UM, WHEN THEY CAME OUT AND AUDITED OR APPLIED THE PENSION PLANS, I THINK IN THE MHRI REPORTED THAT WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD REPORT, SOME MINOR ISSUES.
ONE OF THE MINOR ISSUES THEY WANTED US TO GO TO, TO REDEFINE THE PROCEDURES FOR ACT 44, UH, TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT ISSUES.
UM, THIS WILL BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WILL BE, UH, INCLUDING IN FUTURE REORG MEETINGS WHEN WE DO ALL THE, ALL THE, UM, RESOLUTIONS AND APPOINTMENTS.
THE, THE ONE ON THE ACT 44TH ONE WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED IN PRIOR REORG MEETINGS IS THE ONE WE'LL INCLUDE IN THE FUTURE.
SO ANYTHING ELSE, JOE, THAT YOU NEED TO ADD ON THAT? OKAY.
NO, UH, WE'LL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
SO IT'S JUST CORRECTIONS TO PROCEDURES, IS THAT KIND OF HOW? THAT'S CORRECT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 20 20 24 DASH 25 SETTING FORTH CERTAIN PROCEDURES TO BE UTILIZED IN THE SELECTION OF INDIVIDUALS FOR PERSONAL SERVICES CONTRACT PURSUANT TO ACT 44 OF 2009.
ALRIGHT, NEXT ONE IS CONSIDER AWARDING A BID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SANITARY SEWER MAIN EXTENSION ON GREENWOOD AVENUE.
THIS IS THE LONG DISCUSSED GREENWOOD AVENUE SEWER PROJECT, I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THREE YEARS.
UM, IT WAS INCLUDED FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT WAS INCLUDED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT THE GRANT, UM, ANNOUNCEMENT WAS NEVER MADE.
UH, WE INCLUDED THE FULL COST OF THE PROJECT IN THIS YEAR'S SANITARY SEWER CAPITAL BUDGET.
AND FORTUNATELY, AFTER THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, THE STATE CAME THROUGH AND, AND, UM, AWARDED A GRANT FOR $344,000.
SO THE NET COST ATTACHED TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT IS ROUGHLY $30,500 FOR CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THE LOWEST BIDDER WAS BANIO CONTRACTORS.
YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE, UH, 12, QUITE A FEW FOR THIS ONE, RANGING FROM 3 74 TO $951,000.
THIS WILL PROVIDE SORT OF ABOUT 10 RESIDENTS ON GREENWOOD AVENUE JUST NORTH OF RIDGE PIKE.
UH, AND IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD OF AWARD BID TONIGHT.
ARE THEY ALL GONNA HOOK UP BRIAN, ALL THOSE 10 I KNOW OF, UM, AT LEAST ONE WHO HAS EMAILED WITHOUT EXAGGERATION, PROBABLY EVERY THREE MONTHS FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS.
UM, I IMAGINE SHE'LL BE FIRST.
I KNOW, AND I KNOW TOM ROB'S BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH OTHER RESIDENTS OUT THERE.
EVENTUALLY THEY WILL WHEN THEY'RE SIX.
ALRIGHT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD THE BID FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A SANITARY SEWER MAN EXTENSION ON GREENWOOD AVENUE TO END A CONTRACTORS INK OF CONSHOHOCKEN PA IN THE AMOUNT OF $374,792 AND 90 CENTS AS THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER.
THIS ONE IS CONSIDER AWARDING A BID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE KEOKUK CULVERT AND SANITARY SEWER REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO
SO THIS, THIS PROJECT BEGAN, UH, AS A SANITARY, UH, SORRY, NOT SANITARY, AS A STORM SEWER PROJECT TO REPLACE A CULVERT UNDER KEOKUK ROAD THAT HAS FAILED.
UM, THE PIPES HAVE ACTUALLY SEPARATED THE WATER'S FLOWING UNDERNEATH THE PIPE AND UNDERMINING THE PIPE AND THE END WALL, WHICH IS A HAND LAID STONE END WALL FROM WAY BACK IN THE DAY.
UM, WHILE THIS WAS IN DESIGN, UM, WE REALIZED THAT THE SANITARY SEWER MAIN IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO WHERE THE NEW FOUNDATION FOR THE END WALL, WHERE THE WATER EXITS THE CULVERT WAS TO BE LOCATED.
SO THAT NECESSITATED SOME REDESIGN AND RELOCATING A SANITARY SEW MAIN.
THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE COMES IN AT $623,000,
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WHICH IS ABOUT $175,000 OVER WHAT WE BUDGETED.HOWEVER, THAT IS ALL ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE ADDITIONAL SANITARY SEWER WORK, AND THAT WOULD COME FROM, UM, UNALLOCATED CAPITAL RESERVE FOR THE SANITARY SEWER FUND.
THE STORMWATER COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED TO BE, COMES IN $3,000 UNDER THE, UH, $450,000 THAT WE BUDGETED.
SO, JEN, EXCELLENT JOB ESTIMATING.
UM, THIS ONE IS NOT GRANT FUNDED, HOWEVER, THIS IS ALL, UM, UH, CAPITAL FUNDING FROM THE TOWNSHIP'S PUBLIC WORKS CAPITAL FUND.
UH, AND AGAIN, GILMORE'S REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTS AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE BID BE AWARDED, UM, GEORGE INC IN THE NEVADA $623,000 A CHANGE.
AND THEN WHEN WOULD THIS GET STARTED? AUGUST, THEY, THEY'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO MIKE COEN.
THEY'RE READY TO HAVE A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING AND THEY'RE READY TO GO.
AND HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO FINISH THE WHOLE PROJECT? I DEFERRED IT JUNE FROM THAT ONE.
UNTIL WE GET THE, UM, PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THAT.
IT, OBVIOUSLY THE SEWER COMPONENT WILL GO FIRST BEFORE THE END.
ALL CONSTRUCTION'S EVEN ABLE TO START.
BRIAN, YOU SAID THAT IT WAS NOT GRANT FUNDED, BUT ARE THERE GRANTS OUT THERE THAT WE CAN GO AFTER TO REPLENISH THE MONEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT FOR IT? THE ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS THE PA SMALL WATER AND SEWER GRANT, AND THAT WE JUST RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR THIS ONE FOR THE, UH, PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM.
I MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD THE BID OF CONSTRUCTION ON THE
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION, CARRIE.
THIS NEXT ONE IS CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS ON THE EASTERN MONTGOMERY COUNTY REGIONAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP.
SO THE EASTERN MONTGOMERY COUNTY REGIONAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP IS REALLY THE, THE WRONG NAME.
UM, IT USED TO BE EASTERN A LONG TIME AGO.
UM, IT NOW ENCOMPASSES A MUCH GREATER AREA, INCLUDING US.
UH, AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS ALL THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUPS TO GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS IT, UH, THEIR ISSUES ONCE A MONTH.
AND THEY FOUND THAT THIS, UH, MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT HAS BEEN ADVANCED APPROVED IN 2005.
SO, UM, PURSUANT TO, UH, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CODE SECTION 7 1 0 1, WE'RE ASKING THAT THIS BE APPROVED.
AND BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IF WE HAVE, WHEN WE HAVE, UH, AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURS, THAT GOES BEYOND THE CAPABILITY OF WHAT WE CAN HANDLE WITHIN UPPER PROVIDENCE TASK, AND THIS INCLUDES BOTH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, EMS, FIRE, POLICE, ANY TYPE OF SERVICES THAT PUBLIC WORKS, ANY TYPE OF SERVICES THAT WE WOULD NEED, AND ALLOWS THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT TO CALL ON EACH OTHER TO COME AND ASSIST.
IF THERE'S A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION DECLARED AS THERE WAS AN ITEM, WE CAN GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND TO ASSIST OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
IF THERE'S NOT, THEN THE COST BASICALLY FALLS ON US.
UH, SO IT KIND OF WORKS BOTH WAYS.
UH, IF, IF ABINGTON TOWNSHIP NEEDS ASSISTANCE AND WE SEND EQUIPMENT DOWN TO ASSIST THEM, UH, AND IT'S NOT A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION, WE THE TOWNSHIP HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.
UH, LIKEWISE, IF UPPER PROVINCE HAS AN ISSUE AND WE NEED ACT TOWNSHIP TO COME UP HERE, UH, SAME THING.
IF THEY, IF IT'S A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION IS NOT DECLARED, THEN ABINGTON TOWNSHIP MEETS THE COST OF HAVING THEM COME HERE.
UM, WE'VE ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT IN THE PAST, BACK IN WELL LONG BEFORE MAY.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE, UM, AND REALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT JUST SOLIDIFIES AND ALLOWS US, UH, GIVES THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CALL ON EACH OTHER, UH, TO WHEN, WHEN WE ALL NEED HELP.
UM, THE, THE IMPORTANT PART OF WHY YOU'RE AGREEING TO THIS IS THAT THERE IS A, THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT THERE WOULD BE COST THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IF THERE'S NOT A PRESIDENTIAL DECLARATION.
I MEAN, IT WAS HELPFUL WITH IDA.
SO MANY PEOPLE, SO MANY TOWNSHIPS AND BURS CAME TO OUR AID.
OF COURSE THAT WAS BACKED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STUFF.
IT STILL WAS GOOD TO SEE THAT.
IT, IT IT WAS, ALTHOUGH, UM, AND BRIAN CAN ATTEST TO THIS, THAT THE, UH, FEMA, UM, IS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO WORK THROUGH.
UH, AS FAR AS REIMBURSEMENT, UH, IF YOU DON'T CROSS EVERY T AND DOT EVERY, I KIND OF, UM, THEY, THEY DENY THAT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE EVER GOT EVERYTHING COMPLETELY BACK FROM THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, BUT WE CAME PRETTY CLOSE ON ON A LOT OF 'EM.
WE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE REQUESTED BACK.
BUT SOME OF THE EXPENSES WERE INELIGIBLE.
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MIKE'S POINT, YOU DON'T, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT IDA WOULD BE A PRESIDENTIALLY DECLARED DISASTER WHEN WE WERE REQUESTING THOSE RESOURCES.WE ONLY LEARNED THAT IT WAS DECLARED AFTERWARDS.
SO THIS AGREEMENT WOULD COME INTO PLAY IN THE EVENT OF ANOTHER IDA.
WHETHER OR NOT IT BECOMES A PRESIDENTIALLY DECLARED DISASTER.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT DECLARED WHEN IT'S HAPPENING AND WE NEED RESOURCES.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL ASK FOR MOTION.
I GIVE PERMISSION, UH, MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WITH THE EASTERN MONTGOMERY COUNTY REGIONAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.
CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 26 AUTHORIZING THE SOLICITOR PROCEED WITH AN IMMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE PERMANENT SEWER EASEMENT AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ON A PROPERTY ON A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AT 12 NORTH TOWN STREET LINE.
THIS IS A JOB THAT INVOLVES EASEMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED FROM SEVERAL HOMEOWNERS ALL IN A ROW OVER THERE.
AND IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET EASEMENTS BY AGREEMENT WITH EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR ONE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, AND THAT'S THIS PROPERTY OWNER, YOU ALREADY VOTED LAST YEAR ON THIS TO AUTHORIZE EMINENT DOMAIN.
UM, AT THE TIME WE ONLY HAD THE CON THE EASEMENT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT IDENTIFIED IN THE, IN THE DIAGRAM AT THAT TIME.
SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT SO THAT IT'S CLEAN GOING INTO COURT.
IT'S, IT'S NO, IT, IT IS NOT ANY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS INTENDED FROM THE START.
I WOULD CALL THIS MORE LIKE HOUSEKEEPING.
IT IS A 0.08 OF AN ACRE TEMPORARY EASEMENT AND A 0.15 OF AN ACRE EASEMENT TO PUT A SEWER PIPE IN THE GROUND.
AND THEY'RE NOT, THEY, THEY'RE NOT DENIED THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY ON TOP OF THE EASEMENT.
IT'S JUST A RIGHT TO PUT THE PIPE IN THE GROUND.
BUT WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING CARE OF THE PIPE THAT IS STILL THE TOWNSHIP'S RESPONSIBILITY.
SO UNDER THE, WELL, IN ALL THE EASEMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE VOLUNTARILY SIGNED, WE ALWAYS ASSUME FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR, UM, MAINTENANCE.
WE ALWAYS ACTUALLY EVEN WORK WITH, GENERALLY WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO PUT THINGS OVER THE EASEMENT LIKE A FENCE ROOM, A BILL.
WE'LL EVEN SOMETIMES WORK WITH THEM TO PUT SOMETHING ON TOP OF IT, ON TOP OF IT, AS LONG AS THEY AGREE THAT THAT, THAT ONE THING THEY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE IF WORK HAD TO BE DONE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 26 AUTHORIZING THE SOLICITOR TO PROCEED WITH EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE A PERMANENT SEWER EASEMENT AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT ON A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AT 12 NORTH TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.
[MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS]
MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS.UM, IS THERE ANY ENGINEERING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT? OKAY.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST A, A RECOGNITION OF THE VALLEY FORGE, UH, CAMEL CLUB.
APPARENTLY THEY SAW OUR, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA STAR ARGO, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN POSTING ON OUR, UH, WEBSITES.
AND, UM, THEY JUST CALLED ME OUT OF THE BLUE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING, AND THEY WANTED TO DONATE, UH, MONEY.
AND SO THEY WANTED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, BUT THEY JUST COULDN'T, THE BOARD COULDN'T ARRANGE IT.
SO, UM, BUT THEY WILL BE DROPPING A CHECK THIS WEEK AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE RECOGNITION SINCE WE'RE NOT HERE.
UH, BUT VERY, VERY GENEROUS DONATION.
WHO WAS THAT? WHAT WAS IT? THE VALLEY FORGE CATTLE CLUB.
AND THIS IS FOR THE DOG ONLY OR
[CONSULTANT REPORTS]
ENGINEERING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT? UH, JUST REAL QUICK, LAST MONTH I TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD PROJECT THAT THE PAVING CONDITION WAS PUT ON DELAY BECAUSE PICO IS PUTTING THE ELECTRIC CONDUIT IN.AND THEN THIS NEXT ONE IS FOR, UM, BILL, YOU KNOW, I LIVE FOR THESE AND I'M, I'M ONLY SAD THAT IT'S THE ONLY TWO ITEMS THIS MORNING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MONTHLY DEVELOPER OR IMPROVEMENT GUARANTEE.
ITEM A ONE 11 EAST LINFIELD TRAP ROAD RELEASE LOT TWO FINAL $4,105 AND 54 CENTS.
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LEWIS ROAD RELEASE NUMBER 31 IN THE AMOUNT OF $134,859 AND 59 CENTS.ANY SUPERVISOR COMMENTS? OKAY.
[UPCOMING EVENTS]
EVENTS.THE NEXT ONE IS AUGUST 19TH AND SEPTEMBER 16TH AT SEVEN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE AGENDA ITEMS OF MENNONITE ROAD DIVISION BOYS DRIVE TWO LOT SUBDIVISION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, ALL OF THAT IS ON THE JULY 17TH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AUGUST 7TH, 2024 AT SEVEN IS TO BE DECIDED.
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING IS JULY 17TH, SIX.
AND THEN WE HAVE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE MEETING.
THIS IS, UH, JULY AND AUGUST HAVE BEEN CANCELED.
THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 11TH AT SIX.
AND THEN THE ZONING, UH, HEARING BOARD MEETING, NO PENDING APPLICATIONS.
SO, UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURN? A MOTION ADJOURN.