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SO,[CALL TO ORDER]
FOLLOWING THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR, UH, MONDAY, APRIL 22ND FOR THE REGULAR UPPER PROVINCE TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF BLACK OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE ALL.[MOTION TO APPROVE BOARD AGENDA]
FIRST ONE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD OF AGENDA.I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD AGENDA.
[Additional Item]
UM, HAVE A LITTLE ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE HERE BEFORE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.BEFORE WE START PUBLIC COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO SHARE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS RELATED TO LAST THURSDAY'S SPECIAL MEETING INVOLVING PARK HOUSE, UM, BECAUSE OF SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES WITH OUR LIVE STREAMING TECHNOLOGY.
THURSDAY'S MEETING HAS NOT BEEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE JUST YET.
OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS TROUBLESHOOTING THE PROBLEM AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THE MEETING UPLOADED SOON.
AND THEN SECOND, WE RECEIVED A FEW EMAILS OF A LEGAL NATURE FOR PODCAST AGAIN, AND WE FORWARDED THOSE ON TO OUR SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR REVIEW.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
NOW WE'RE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.UH, YOU GUYS, MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE JURY CAN FORWARD GIVE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME FORWARD.
HI, IT'S SUSAN DVY, 1 3 5 BENNINGTON ROAD.
UM, I WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE AT THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING, AND, UH, I FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SPEAK MY MIND RIGHT NOW.
AND I WANNA FIRST THANK BILL STARLING FOR HIS COMMENTS.
I, UH, AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE REST OF THE BOARD IN HOW YOU WENT ABOUT FACE FROM UNANIMOUSLY ABOUT VOTING ONE WAY AND THEN COMPLETELY FLIPPING IN THE NEXT, WITHIN FEW WEEKS.
I'M SORRY I COULDN'T BE HERE AT THE LAST MINUTE.
FOUND OUT ABOUT THE MEETING JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE AND I COULDN'T CHANGE MY SCHEDULE.
WHAT I, I HAVE A LOT TO SAY AND WHAT I WANNA SAY IS THAT YOU'RE LETTING LAND THAT IS REALLY CLOSE TO THE RIVER BE INFLUENCED BY DEVELOPERS AND LAWYERS.
LAWYERS AND DEVELOPERS INSTEAD OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU LET ALL THOSE TOWNHOUSES AND THE FULL DEVELOPMENT IN THE, WHAT WE SAY IS THE NATURAL LANDS, A THE LEAST OF THE DESIRABLE TO SAVE, BUT IT'S TOTALLY RELATED TO WHAT IS DESIRABLE TO SAVE.
AND YOU BUILD 50 FOOT TOWN TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER, 10 FEET APART, 15 FEET APART, NOTHING IN BETWEEN.
AND IT'S THE CLOSEST TO THE RIVER.
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU DO THAT? THAT ROAD SECOND AVENUE IS A DANGEROUS SPOT RIGHT THERE.
WHERE THE POTENTIAL CIRCLE IS, WHERE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA COME IN, IS WHERE THEY'RE HAVING EGRESSES FROM THE DEV, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT? BY THESE CIRCLES.
DO YOU NOT SEE THAT THAT IS A CAUSE FOR A SAFETY ISSUE? DO YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO DIE BEFORE YOU SAY THAT THAT INTERSECTION IS DANGEROUS? I CANNOT GET OUT OF MY DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE POOR KID WHO WAS UP HERE AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GOING TO THE RENAISSANCE CHARTER SCHOOL, NOBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT HE WAS COMING FROM HERE TRYING TO GET TO THE CHARTER SCHOOL.
I JUST DID IT ON FRIDAY RIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING.
AND I COULD TELL YOU IT TOOK ME 15 MINUTES TO GO TWO MILES BECAUSE THE BRIDGE WAS BACKED UP WITH BUSES.
I COULDN'T GET OUT OF MY DEVELOPMENT.
I HAVE ONE WAY OUT AND WHAT I'M GONNA SEE IS LOOKING OUT MY BACK.
I'M GONNA SEE KING OF PRUSSIA AND IT MAKES ME SICK.
AND HELENE, YOU ARE NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S SAVED AND EVERYTHING'S THAT'S CLOSE TO THE GROUND IS BY YOUR HOUSE.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE TRUE, BUT THAT IS A PERCEPTION I HAVE.
YOU'RE MAKING THE KING OF PRUSSIA DOWN AT THE END WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO FIGHT THIS ARE LIVING.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, SOMEBODY CAME IN HERE THAT NIGHT, I WATCHED IT AS IT WAS GOING ON AND HE SAID THIS WAS THE WILLIAMSBURG OR THE FU PLAN.
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I FEEL LIKE WHAT YOU DID WAS, HEY, YES, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND SAY ANONYMOUSLY WE ARE NOT DOING THIS.AND F YOU RESIDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING OUT, I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE CONDITIONAL USE.
WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO NOT SAY, HEY, THIS IS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS IN THE CONDITIONAL USE.
THERE'S ROOM FOR NO NEGOTIATION.
IT'S NOT JUST THROUGH THIS TERRIBLE PLAN THAT WAS PUT FORTH WITH NO, NO IMPACT UP.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, VICTORIA BRIGHT, 3 6 4 VISTA DRIVE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING A REGULAR MEETING.
I, UH, I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MY NOTES FROM THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT.
AND WHILE I KNOW PARKHOUSE IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THERE'S A POINT LATER ON IN THE CONVERSATION WHERE I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, DISCUSSING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULED.
I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON EXACTLY WHAT IS WAS VOTED ON FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IN THE ABSENCE OF BEING ABLE TO READ OR RE-REVIEW THE, UH, VIDEO FROM THE OTHER NIGHT.
IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING TO SOME OF US.
UM, NOW YOU MADE TWO MOTIONS AND I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THOSE MOTIONS WERE.
YEAH, LET JOE, COULD YOU ANSWER THAT? 'CAUSE IT WAS CONFUSING.
I I KNOW THAT I I WASN'T A PART OF THAT.
I CAN WE GET BACK TO TUTORIAL NEXT? I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK ON, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, YES, IF, BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM MANY OF THE PARKHOUSE FRIENDS.
UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASKING EXACTLY WHAT WAS VOTED ON.
LET ME GET GREG TO GET BACK TO YOU.
AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I DO HAVE IN RELATION TO, UM, THE, UH, THE ZONING AMENDMENT CHANGED IN A PROCESS FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, AND MAYBE THIS IS TO MR. BRESNAN, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CITIZENS PROPOSE A ZONING AMENDMENT CHANGE? ANYONE CAN PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT CHANGE.
IT'S NORMALLY DONE IN CONNECTION WITH A PARTICULAR PROJECT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SPHERE.
BUT SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND ASK FOR ORDINANCE CHANGES ABOUT LAWN CUTTING AND A THOUSAND OTHER THINGS.
SO IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THIS APPLICATION, IS IT FAIR TO HAVE CITIZENS MAKE A ZONING AMENDMENT, A PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT CHANGE? I, I'LL LET SPECIAL COUNSEL ANSWER THAT.
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT QUESTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
SO WHEN HE REACHES OUT TO, YOU CAN ASK THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE FINAL QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
AND I THINK THIS PROBABLY IS DIRECTED TO MR. GRACE, UM, AND THE, AND THE TOWNSHIP BOARD.
WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO SEE, UH, A DRAFT OR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE TOWNSHIP? YES.
THE, WELL, THE SCHEDULE'S A LITTLE IN FLUX BECAUSE OF PARKHOUSE BEING PROBABLY THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS IN MAY.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET BACK TO IT IN JUNE.
WE'RE HAVING A MEETING WITH THE BOARD ON MAY 13TH, I THINK 14TH.
THE WORKSHOP SESSION WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE.
THERE'S A DRAFT, IT'S BEEN PRESENTED AT A PUBLIC MEETING.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LAND USE IN THERE.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO PUT IN A RIGHT TO NO REQUEST OR LOOK AT THE MINUTES 'CAUSE IT'S ATTACHED TO THE MINUTES.
UM, YOU KNOW THAT, SORRY I DIDN'T STOP THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MESH WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHEDULE WE HAVE.
SO IT WILL BE BACK ON THERE AS SOON AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
THAT'S, I'M HOPING JUNE, MAY 14TH.
IS THAT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? IT'S A WORKSHOP.
AND ANY PROPOSED LAND USE DURING A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS, DOES IT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION APPLICATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS? AS I'VE SAID DURING THOSE MEETINGS, PARKHOUSE, UM, SOME OTHER, OTHER
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CURRENT APPLICATIONS ARE NOT PART OF THE LAND USE BECAUSE THEIR CURRENT APPLICATIONS, ESPECIALLY WITH PARKHOUSE, BECAUSE OF ITS CONDITIONAL USE, THAT'S NOT GOING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST SOMETHING OTHERWISE, IT'S A LEGAL PROCESS THAT HAS TO PLAY OUT.UH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING YOU SPEAK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I COULD POSSIBLY SAY.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME? BILL FELMAN.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PROCESS AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE BEST YOU CAN DO.
UM, WE'RE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH OURSELVES, GETTING COUNSEL OURSELVES.
SO ANY, AS WE GO THROUGH HERE, WE'LL BE OFFERING SUGGESTIONS AND ADVICE OURSELVES.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO, UH, HELP THAT PROCESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR END GOAL IS TO, MAYBE THIS LAND WILL GET DEVELOPED, BUT LET'S GET IT DEVELOPED IN A REASONABLE, UH, WAY THAT, THAT, THAT COMPLIMENTS THE SURROUNDING AREA.
GOOD EVENING, BLAKE WELLING, 1 35 BENNINGTON ROAD.
I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT TO, UH, UH, PROVIDE CLARITY ON THE MOTIONS, UH, THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THE, AT THE MEETING LAST, UH, THURSDAY.
UM, I BELIEVE WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT ALLOWS FOR A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT ARE, ARE, UH, A CHANGE TO THE OPEN SPACE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TO ORDINANCE.
AND, UH, KEY PART OF THAT IS, UM, UH, 880 UNIT, UM, ALLOWANCE BASED ON THE GROSS ACREAGE AND THE FIVE UNIT PER GROSS ACREAGE SPECIFIC ITEM IN THAT, UH, IN THAT, UH, DRAFT ORDINANCE OR PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
SO, UM, THERE'S SOME CLARITY THERE, BUT THERE'S JUST MANY, MANY, MANY THINGS THAT ARE UNCLEAR.
MR. JAEGER, I APPRECIATE YOU POINTING OUT THE, THE CLARITY THAT WE ARE SEEKING RELATIVE TO TRAFFIC IMPACTS, SCHOOL IMPACTS, AND SO ON.
NOW, OTHER THINGS THAT AREN'T QUITE CLEAR TO THE COMMUNITY ARE, DO, DO WE CONTINUE ON A PARALLEL PATH APPROACH OF CONDITIONAL USE BEFORE THIR, UH, MAY 30TH AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWING THIS ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT.
WILL THAT BE CLARIFIED AT ALL FOR THE COMMUNITY? UH, SO THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION FOR ME.
UH, WILL WE GET CLEARER INFORMATION AS TO WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COMMIT TO, UH, RELATIVE TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, DONATION OF LAND AND OTHER ITEMS? AND THERE'S, THERE'S MANY OTHER ITEMS THAT, UH, I WOULD SEEK CLARITY ON.
UH, GRANTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD BE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, DUE DILIGENCE TO, TO REVIEW ALL THOSE, THOSE FACTORS.
AND I HOPE WE REALLY GIVE THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TIME TO REVIEW ALL THOSE, THOSE FACTORS IN CONSIDERATION.
UM, WE, WE DID PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK ONTO ON THE, WHAT WE SENSE WAS A SENSE OF URGENCY TO SUDDENLY SCHEDULE THAT MEETING LAST THURSDAY, BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY HEAR WHY THAT WAS SUCH AN URGENT NEED TO SCHEDULE THAT, UH, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE NOTICE FOR THE, FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC.
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WITH LACK OF CLARITY AND, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.ANYBODY ELSE? I WANT TO BACK UP.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REPORT IN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.
I THINK LAST MEETING LAST THURSDAY WITH AN EXECUTIVE SESSION PRIOR TO THAT MEETING.
SO I THINK THAT'S, UM, I'M GONNA MOVE ON FOR A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.
[APPROVAL OF BILL LIST]
BILL, NEXT TIME I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR BILL LIST.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MARCH 1ST, THE MARCH 31ST, 2024 BILL LIST IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,543,964 AND 78 CENTS.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ALRIGHT, NOW DOWN TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MARCH 18TH, 2024 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.[PUBLIC HEARING]
ALRIGHT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING REIFICATION OF ALL TOWNSHIP ORDINANCES AND ZONING MAPS.ALRIGHT, WE'RE HERE FOR AN ADVERTISED HEARING UNDER SECTION 1601 OF THE SECOND CLASS TOWNSHIP CODE.
UH, THIS IS TO RE CODIFY THE TOWNSHIP ORDINANCES, WHICH IS LARGELY, ALTHOUGH NOT ENTIRELY A HOUSEKEEPING MEASURE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS ORDINANCES GET ADOPTED SOMETIMES EVERY MONTH OR, OR MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR.
EACH OF 'EM ARE A FEW PAGES LONG AND THEY BUILD UP AND THEY BUILD UP AND THEN THEY EVENTUALLY GET PUT INTO A BOOK THAT ORGANIZES THEM BY TOPIC.
AND THEN YOU CREATE YOUR BOOK, WHICH IS YOUR CODIFICATION, AND THEN TIME GOES ON AND YOU KEEP AMENDING, CREATING MORE AND MORE ORDINANCES AND YOU STICK 'EM AT THE BACK OF THE BOOK.
AND EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE SOMEBODY AT THE BACK OF THE BOOK THAT IT'S TIME TO RE CODIFY.
UH, MOST PLACES TRY TO GENERALLY DO IT MAYBE LIKE EVERY 10 TO 15 YEARS, AND IT CAME UP AS SOMETHING THAT UPPER PROVIDENCE NEEDED TO, UM, GET AROUND TO.
UM, THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES IN THE NUMBERING, WHICH WILL IMPACT LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THE ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CHAPTERS ARE BEING, UM, MOVED AROUND.
UM, I SHOULD ALSO STATE THAT THE COMPANY THAT HELPS TOWNSHIPS AND BOROUGHS WITH THIS PROCESS, THEY ALSO EDIT AS THEY GO ON SOME ORDINANCES THAT SEEM OUT OF DATE AND THEY SEND MAYBE HUNDREDS OF QUESTIONS TO THE TOWNSHIP AS DIVIDED OFF INTO TEAMS. DO YOU WANT IT TO SAY THIS OR SHOULD IT STILL SAY THIS? AND YOU, YOU CLEAN UP YOUR ORDINANCES IN THAT WAY IN ADDITION TO THE ACTUAL REIFICATION PROCESS, UH, ALREADY MADE A PART OF THE RECORD, BY THE WAY, IS THE LEGAL NOTICE FOR TONIGHT'S HEARING.
UH, AND A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE ACCORDING TO SECTION 1601 OF THE TOWNSHIP CODE.
THE ORDINANCE HAS TO INCLUDE THE TITLES OF EACH CHAPTER THAT ARE BEING RE CODIFIED.
IF YOU PUT THE WHOLE ORDINANCE, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THE ORDINANCE BOOK THAT'S ON THE CHAIR OVER THERE, WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY TO LOOK AT ALONGSIDE A COPY OF THE ZONING MAP, WHICH IS INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE INTO THE CODIFICATION PROCESS.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE CODIFICATION OR REIFICATION OF THE TOWNSHIP ORDINANCES? LET THE RECORD REFLECT.
NOBODY INDICATED HAVING ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IN THAT REGARD.
SUPERVISORS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE RE CODIFICATION HEARING? NONE OR NONE? UH, I MEAN, IS THERE, IS THERE SOME KIND OF SUMMARY THAT COMES OUT OR? NO, ORDINANCE ARE CHANGING.
THEY'RE JUST REASSIGNING CHAPTERS TO 'EM AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE, THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
AND YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH AND ANY OPEN APPLICATIONS HAVE TO BE REASSIGNED TO THE CHAPTER, WHICH IT WAS REASSIGNED TO.
THERE IS A SUMMARY OF ANY OF THE CHANGES THAT AREN'T JUST NUMBERS.
WE BUT THIS IS YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE, RIGHT? THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF.
THIS ISN'T CHANGING IT, IT LARGELY IS AS GENERAL CODE WHO PERFORMED THE LEGAL AND EDITORIAL REVIEW FOR US WENT THROUGH THE CODE AS JOE SAID, THEY, THEY HIGHLIGHTED A, A, AN INCONSISTENCY OR SOMETHING, THEY DEEMED TO BE AN ISSUE WITH THE CODE AND THEY SAID YOU WANNA DO A, B, OR C.
AND AS STAFF WE WENT THROUGH EACH OF THOSE AND SAID, WE WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER ONE BEST SUIT THE TOWNSHIP AND OUR NEEDS.
MANY OF THE CHANGES RELATE TO UPDATING THE PENALTY SECTION OF EACH ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ALWAYS AT THE END.
UM, AND MANY, MANY OF THE CHANGES ARE
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CROSS-REFERENCES THAT BECAUSE AN ORDINANCE WAS ENACTED AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND POINTED TO A CERTAIN SECTION OF THE CODE AND THE CODE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE, THAT CROSS CROSS-REFERENCE WAS NO LONGER VALID.SO A LOT OF IT, LIKE JOE SAID, IT IS LARGELY, UH, UM, JUST HOUSEKEEPING AND CLEANUP ISSUES IN THE CODE.
I CAN, THERE ARE NO SUBSTANTIVE REDEVELOPMENT OR ZONING CHANGES.
CAN YOU PLEASE ALSO GIVE YOUR NAME AGAIN 'CAUSE WE'RE ON THE RECORD NOW.
SO THE RE CODIFICATION, HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO WHEN AMEN.
WHEN THERE'S LIKE ZONING, TEXT, OR AMENDMENTS SUCH AS THE ONE THAT'S PROPOSED NOW, HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO IT? AND UM, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT WORK THEN? JUST IT DOES IT WELL THE ORDINANCE NUMBER THAT WOULD BE ASSIGNED FOR THE, OR NOT THE, NOT THE, I'M SORRY, NOT THE NUMBER OF THE NEW ORDINANCE, BUT THE REFERENCE TO THE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE WOULD, WOULD CHANGE TO THE NEW NUMBER.
ESSENTIALLY WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ON PARK HOUSE'S AMENDMENT AND ANY OTHER AMENDMENT WE MAY HAVE AND RENUMBER IT TO MATCH THE NEW NUMBERING SYSTEM.
AGAIN, THE LANGUAGE WILL SAY THE SAME, IT'S JUST NEW SECTION AND SUBSECTION NUMBERS.
UM, I TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU FOR YEAH, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
I REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS BACK A WOMAN CAME FORWARD ABOUT, WAS IT AN ORDINANCE ABOUT KEEPING HER LAWN CERTAIN WHO WENT INTO A WHOLE BIG THING? DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? YEAH.
WE NEVER, WE NEVER ACTUALLY CHANGED AN ORDINANCE IN THAT REGARD.
ANY, ANYTHING THAT GOT CHANGED, UM, DURING THIS CODIFICATION PROCESS IS ALSO INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE.
SO AFTER THE CODIFICATION, WHATEVER THE NEXT THING IS STARTS THE PROCESS AGAIN OF ADDING ORDINANCES AT THE BACK.
I CALL IT THE BACK, BUT IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE BIG BOOK ANYMORE.
BUT WE'RE, ALL OF US ARE USED TO THIS GIANT PHONE BOOK SIZE, YOU KNOW, BOOK AND YOU PHYSICALLY PULL THE SPINE OFF TO PUT THE NEW PAGES IN THE BACK.
UM, BUT NOW YOU SEE IT LISTED UNDER THE ORDINANCES AS SUPPLEMENTAL ORDINANCES TO THE CODIFICATION.
SO ONCE WE CLOSE THE BOOK HERE, LET'S SAY WE DO WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT SOMEONE'S LAWN, IT WOULD JUST START THIS WHOLE PROCESS OVER SOURCE.
YEAH, I, I THINK, UH, THE EAC IS STILL WORKING ON THAT.
THERE DON'T ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UH, MOTION TO RE I MOTION TO ENACT ORDINANCE 6 0 4 APPROVING THE CONNOTATION OF ALL TOWNSHIP ORDINANCES AND THE ZONING MAP.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION, CARRIE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW OLD BUSINESS OR DON'T HAVE OLD BUSINESS.
[NEW BUSINESS (ACTION/DISCUSSION ITEMS)]
NEW.THE FIRST ONE UP IS CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION OF 2024 DASH 15 REGARDING, UH, DISPOSITION OF CERTAIN TOWNSHIP RECORDS.
I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUT IN, UH, PUT IN PLACE BY RESOLUTION, UM, ADHERENCE TO THE PENNSYLVANIA HISTORIC AND MUSEUM COMMISSION'S RECORD RETENTION SCHEDULE.
UM, THAT RECORDS RETENTION SCHEDULE SAYS THAT ANY TIME THE STAFF CHOOSES TO DESTROY RECORDS, UM, WE CAN ONLY GET RID OF RECORDS THAT ARE PAST THEIR RETENTION DATE AS PER THAT MANUAL.
AND WE WOULD BLESSING TO DO THAT.
UM, INCLUDED IN EXHIBIT A OR A LIST OF ADMINISTRATION, PARK AND RECREATION, UM, PAYROLL, FINANCE, PURCHASING PERSONNEL AND FIRE INSPECTION RECORDS, ALL OF WHICH ARE BEYOND THEIR RETENTION DATE.
AND WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD'S, UM, ACTION ON THIS RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN SHRED THOSE DOCUMENTS AT THE UPCOMING SHREDDING EVENT IN MAY.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 15 APPROVING THE DISPOSITION OF CERTAIN TOWNSHIP RECORDS AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT A.
NEXT ONE IS, UH, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 16 GRANTING REVISED FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR THE RESIDENCE AT PROVINCETOWN CENTER.
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BASICALLY YOU'VE SEEN THIS AT TENTATIVE AND YOU'VE SEEN IT A PRELIMINARY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDINGS ON THE LEFT OF THE PLAN.THAT WOULD BE THREE STORY WALKUP APARTMENTS RATHER THAN THE 125 UNIT, UH, HOTEL THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN PROPOSED.
UM, WE HAVE BASICALLY NOW WOULD BE PHASE ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR 281 APARTMENT UNITS AND PHASE TWO WOULD CONSIST OF 419 APARTMENT UNITS.
UM, WE HAVE VERY CLEAN REVIEW LETTERS.
UH, BOWMAN HAS FOUND THE POUNDS PLANS TO BE SATISFACTORY FOR APPROVAL AT THIS TIME.
GILMORE HAS NOTHING FOR US TO DO ON THE PLANS OTHER THAN SIGN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, DO THE M AND O AGREEMENT THINGS WE TYPICALLY DO.
UM, WE DID REQUEST CERTAIN WAIVERS.
UH, MR. RESIDENT DID SEND ME A COPY OF THE PROPOSED APPROVAL RESOLUTION AND WE'RE FINE WITH IT.
SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF READY FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
UH, THE HOTEL THAT'S GOING TO NOW BE APARTMENT, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE ONE STORY SMALLER, RIGHT? IT'S ONE FLOOR SHORTER THAN, UH, THE HOTEL'S GONE.
RIGHT? BUT I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE, THIS PHONE'S GONNA BE ONE STORY, ONE FLOOR SHORTER THAN THE HOTEL.
SO OUR NEIGHBORS WERE HAPPY WITH THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OH, IS MIKE HERE TONIGHT? OH, THERE HE IS.
UM, WE, WE'VE MET WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION.
UH, SO IT'S UNUSUAL WHEN YOU HAVE SHORT REVIEW LETTERS AND YOUR NEIGHBOR'S IN FAVOR, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
CAN YOU JUST POINT OUT TO ME WHERE THE HOTEL WOULD'VE GONE? LIKE I DON'T, THIS IS, I'M NEW, THIS IS NEW TO ME.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THIS, BUT LIKE WHAT BUILDINGS WERE THE HOTEL ROUGHLY? HE DIDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION.
CAN YOU JUST SHOW ME WHERE THE HOTEL WAS SUPPOSED TO GO AND WHAT IS NOW APARTMENTS? SO THE HOTEL WAS BASICALLY FROM THE POINT RIGHT IN HERE.
THERE WAS A PARKING, IT WAS AN ENTRANCE, IT WRAPPED AROUND AND THEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS WOULD'VE BEEN TIED TOGETHER MAKING THE, UH, ONE BUILDING.
SO BY TAKING THAT OUT, WE WERE ABLE TO ESTABLISH CLOSE SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
WE HAVE ANOTHER, WE MIGHT HAVE THE OLD ONE.
I'M MORE JUST CURIOUS WHAT, HOW MANY UNITS ARE REPLACING THE, WHAT IS THE TRADE OFF OR JEFF, I GUESS YOU MAY.
THE KELLY'S ASKING FOR THE TOTAL UNIT OF UNDER THE HOTEL AND THEN UNDER THE NEW PLAN 585 APARTMENTS AND THE A HUNDRED AND I THOUGHT 115 ROOM HOTEL FOR A TOTAL OF 700.
AND NOW IT'S JUST 700 APARTMENTS.
BUT THE OTHER IN THOSE THREE BUILDINGS, THE 700 APARTMENTS? NO, NO.
A TOTAL THAT INCLUDES THE 282 281 THAT ARE CURRENT THAT, THAT ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED.
SO IF IT TOTAL, SHE'S JUST ASKING FOR THE TRADE OFF.
WHAT'S THE TRADE? WE'RE, WE'RE SUBTRACTING 115 HOTEL ROOMS AND WE'RE ADDING IN 200 ISH? NO, A HUNDRED AND 125.
SO EVEN SWAPPED? YES, FOR, FOR WATER IT IS A WASH.
CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE THE WAIVERS THAT WERE GRANTED SHORTEN? YEP.
THERE WERE, THIS IS THE, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT OF THE FINAL APPROVAL.
USUALLY WE DO MOST OF THE RESOLUTIONS, EXCUSE MOST OF THE WAIVERS IF THE RESOLUTION FOR PRELIMINARY APPROVAL IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT'S AN AMENDED FINAL.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE.
THERE WERE A COUPLE ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, WAIVERS AND THEY WERE, UM, REALLY TECHNICAL AND SPECIFIC.
UM, THE DRIVE ACCESS, UM, DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE MINIMUM REQUIRED TURNING RADIUS OF 10 FEET WHERE TWO OF THE ROADS INTERSECT.
UM, REQUIRED TREES CAN BE OMITTED WHERE THEY CONFLICT WITH THE UNDERGROUND WATER STORAGE.
AND THE LAST ONE IS, UH, MAXIMUM GRADE AT VOTING AREAS.
AND A DA RAMPS AT ONE PARTICULAR LOCATION ARE ALLOWED TO BE 5.9% RATHER THAN 5%.
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I'LL CONSIDER A MOTION JUST FOR A MOTION.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 16 GRANTING REVISED FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR THE RESIDENCE AT PROVIDENCE TOWN CENTER.
NEXT ONE IS, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 17 GRANTING FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR DECLINE ROAD DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I'M AN ATTORNEY AND ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF PENAL REALTY.
SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER ME.
SOME OF YOU MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PLAN.
SO JUST TO GET EVERYBODY KIND OF UP TO SPEED, UM, I WILL JUST RUN THROUGH THE PLAN.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG KLEIN ROAD HERE AND LINFIELD TRAP ROAD HERE.
UM, THE PROPERTY HAD SPLIT ZONING PREVIOUSLY.
THE BOARD VOTED TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP TO CHANGE THE ZONING ENTIRELY TO R TWO.
WE HAVE A 30 LOT SUBDIVISION PROPOSED THAT HAS PRELIMINARY APPROVAL.
WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR FINAL APPROVAL TONIGHT.
MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS ABOUT 15,760 SQUARE FEET.
WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC ORDER AND PUBLIC SEWER.
THE ROAD, WHICH IS ALSO CALLED THE SPINE ROAD, WILL RUN THROUGH.
THE PROJECT IS BEING BUILT TO ATTACH OF STANDARDS.
UM, THE, WE WILL MAKE AN OFFER OF DEDICATION FOR YOU.
YOU WERE NOT OBLIGATED TO ACCEPT THAT, BUT THE ROAD WILL BE BUILT.
SO IF YOU EVER CHOOSE TO, RIGHT NOW IT'S PROPOSED TO REMAIN A PRIVATE ROAD.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOUR STAFF, UM, AFTER RECEIVING PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL, UM, AND ALSO YOUR, THE SEWER AUTHORITY AND PENNSYLVANIA, UH, AMERICAN AND PENNDOT.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT SEVERAL TIMES.
AND I THINK JEN, I WAS SURPRISED SHE DOESN'T WIND UP LOOKING LIKE ME BY THE END OF THE REVIEW LETTERS.
UM, IN TERMS OF HER HAIR, UH, BECAUSE UM, WE SEEM TO BE AN EVER MOVING TARGET.
BUT WE ARE ALSO BUILDING AS PART OF THIS SUBDIVISION, A OFFSITE PUMP STATION, WHICH WILL NOT ONLY SERVICE, WHICH IS ON THE TAYLOR TRACK, WHICH WILL NOT ONLY SERVICE THIS PROPERTY, BUT IS ALSO WAS CITED BY BILL DINGMAN IN A LOCATION TO SERVICE OTHER OTHER HOMES IN THE AREA SHOULD THE FUTURE NEED A RISE AND THE PLANT IS BEING BUILT WITH CAPACITY FOR THAT AND IS BEING, WE'RE ACTUALLY USING ONE OF YOUR PUMP STATION DESIGNS.
UM, SO WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS LIKE IT.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT ALL GOT WORKED OUT AS WELL.
WE DID APPEAR BEFORE YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK.
UM, THERE WAS ONE ADDITIONAL WAIVER TECHNICALLY REQUESTED.
I THINK THERE THE OTHER ONES SUBSUMED IN OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT HAD HAPPENED BEFORE.
UM, BUT THERE, THERE WAS A WAIVER FOR, UM, THE PEAK FLOW RATES REALLY, WHICH RELATE DOWN TO THIS PUMP STATION DESIGN AND THE ROAD THAT COMES IN.
IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE TOWNSHIP AND YOUR STAFF THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE TAYLOR FARM NOT BE ALTERED SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A BIG DETENTION BASIN.
UH, WE RAN INTO SOME CONFLICTS BETWEEN HOW YOU GUYS WANTED TO SEE IT AND HOW UM, MCCD WANTED TO SEE IT.
UH, BUT YOUR STAFF REALLY WORKED WITH US AND MCCD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DOING IT, UM, IN A WAY THAT WAS BENEFICIAL AND ALSO PROTECTED THE ENVIRONMENTAL AESTHETICS OF THE SITE.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TECHNICALLY A, A WAIVER FROM A TOWNSHIP REQUIREMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE YOUR ENGINEER SUPPORTS, UM, TO THAT THE RATE OF CONTROL REDUCING THE PEAK RATE CONTROL ON THE 50 YEAR STORM TO THE TWO YEAR STORM FOR THIS LITTLE TAIL OF FARM PROPERTY.
AND REALLY IT'S TO MANAGE THE STORM ORDER FOR THE PUMP STATION ITSELF.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BIG AREA.
UM, LASTLY THERE, THERE IS, UH, WE DO HAVE CLEAN TRAFFIC LETTER.
THERE IS WIDENING AND IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE'S A FEE IN LIEU THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE TO FINALIZE THE COST ESTIMATES.
WE WORKED WITH MR. GRACE AND MR. BRESLIN AND I SPOKE, WE'LL FINALIZE THE FEE IN LIEU OF WAY OF SIDEWALK AND CURB INTO THIS AREA.
UM, AND THE REST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, THERE ARE SOME WIDENING BEING DONE AS PART OF OUR PLAN AT THE OLD GARO TRACT.
UH, FOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO ARE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WE ARE A, UH, A CHILD, SO TO SPEAK, OF THE GARAFFO TRACT AND THE GARAFFO TRACT WHEN WAS SUPPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UM, HAD REQUIREMENTS ABOUT ROAD WIDENING.
WE'RE PICKING SOME OF THAT UP AND WE DID IT IN A WAY THAT WAS COORDINATED WITH YOUR, YOUR TOWNSHIP AND TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND PENNDOT.
SO WITH THAT, WE, YOU KNOW, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PLAN.
UM, MR. BRESLOW AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT A FINAL RESOLUTION GETTING THE NUMBERS IN AS WE GOT THESE ESTIMATES.
'CAUSE WE WERE WAITING FOR THESE FINAL PEN DO NUMBERS TO COME IN, UM, TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR ON ALL THAT.
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WE BELIEVE WE'RE READY.WE HAVE A CLEAN, UH, LETTER FROM GILMORE AND A CLEAN LETTER FROM BOWMAN.
UM, SO WE'RE ASKED YOU, WERE HERE TO MAKE FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
THE YELLOW GOING THROUGH BETWEEN THE TWO BROWN FIELD AREAS.
THAT'S THE ROAD TO GET TO THE PUMPHOUSE.
THIS IS THE CURRENT TRAIL LOCATION AND WE, WHEN WE'RE DONE BUILDING THAT, THAT WILL BE REESTABLISHED BY US.
BUT YES, THAT, THAT IS THE ACCESS DOWN TO THE TAYLOR FARM PRESENTLY.
CAN WE JUST REVIEW PLANS FOR LIKE A PARK RIGHT THERE? YES, BUT THE, THE PUMP STATION WILL BE ON OUR PARK PROPERTY.
WE DO HAVE A MASTER PLAN FOR THIS PARK.
AND I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
THIS HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO AND WHERE THE TRAIL SYSTEM HAS WORKED AROUND THIS AND THAT WHEN HE WAS REFERRING TO US ASKING FOR IT IN A CERTAIN SPACE, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF WE COULD JUST PUT IT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE WHERE THE BARN WAS FOR THEM.
WE HAD IT OFF TO THE SIDE SO THAT IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH OUR FUTURE TRAIL PLANS WITH THE TRIP.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
HOW IS IT ALL BEING COORDINATED TOGETHER? SUE? SUE IS WELL AWARE OF THIS AND SHE'S DEFINITELY BEEN PUSHING THROUGH THE BASIN AND OTHER THINGS TO BE AS SEPARATED AS POSSIBLE SO IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH HER TRAIL PLAN.
SO IS THAT GOING UNDER THE HOUSE OR IN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING OVER THE HOUSE, BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT.
SO HOW IS THAT GOING? YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? IT LOOKS LIKE GOING BARN.
I DON'T THINK THE BARN EXISTS ANYMORE.
UM, THERE'S A SMALL CREEK HERE, WHICH WE HAVE A CROSSING PERMIT FOR.
UM, THERE'S A CONNECTION IN PROVIDENCE CORNER, WHICH WAS BUILT BY KHO AND THP BACK IN THE DAY, UM, THAT WE'LL CONNECT UP TO.
AND WE'LL BE CHANGING THAT CONNECTION FROM A TWO INCH TO A FOUR INCH CONNECTION TO HANDLE THIS.
AND WE'LL BE BRINGING WATER DOWN.
SO THERE'LL BE AN INTERCONNECTED WATER FROM PROVIDENCE CORNER DOWN TO THE PUMP STATION.
UM, THEN FROM OUR PROJECT, THERE'LL BE AN INTERCONNECT UP AND WE WILL HAVE A DIRECTIONAL BORE UNDER THE PICO EASEMENT AND TYING THAT AT THE BACK OF THE GIANT SHOPPING CENTER, PART OF THE DELAY WAS PA AMERICAN COULDA MAKE UP THEIR MIND, WHICH WHERE THEY WANTED US TO CONNECT.
WE WERE GOING TWO MILES DOWN THE FIELD TRAP ROAD AND THEY SAID, NO, JUST KIDDING.
THEN THEY SAID, GO UP TO PROVIDENCE CORNER.
AND WE WOUND UP BACK AT PROVIDENCE CORNER AGAIN.
SO, UM, IF ANYBODY NEEDS A SURVEY OF LIVE FIELD TRAP ROAD FOR ANY REASON, I'VE GOT IT FROM TOWNSHIP WIDE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE OTHER CON THE OTHER TOWNHOUSE PROJECT ABOUT THREE MILES OF ROADWAY, WHICH I, I'M HAPPY TO OFFLOAD FOR FREE THE DECLINE THE KLEIN ROAD.
SO IS THAT ALL GETTING WIDENED IF SEATS IN YELLOW AND IT CONTINUES OFF THE MAP? THERE, THERE IS WIDENING IN OUR FRONT AND THERE'S A TRAIL IMPROVEMENT THAT COMES DOWN ALONG THIS SIDE HERE, UM, TO INTERCONNECT.
UM, BUT UM, THE WIDENING IS JUST ALONG OUR FRONTAGE, RIGHT ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
AND THEN THE TRAIL CONNECTS IT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE SHOPPING CENTER FROM HERE DOWN TO THE SHOPPING CENTER HERE.
THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT ENTRANCE DRIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COME DOWNLINE ROAD? MM-HMM.
THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
IT'S NOT DEAD ENDING BEFORE THE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE RIDGE PIKE.
AND I GUESS IF THEY WANTED TO GO OVER TO THE TAYLOR FARM JUST ACROSS, IT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET.
WELL YOU RIGHT, YOU WOULD WALK THROUGH THE SUB THERE, THERE WOULD BE, THERE'S SIDEWALK AND THE SUBDIVISION AND YOU WOULD WALK DOWN AND THEN WALK ACROSS TO THAT TONY.
WE ALSO ASKED THEM TO PUT IN A SEPARATE TRAIL BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS WHEN YOU HAVE A TRAIL, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR SIDEWALKS, YOU WALK ON THE SIDEWALK AND YOU START TO WALK THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT DOESN'T FEEL AS INVITING WHEN HAVE A SEPARATE TRAIL THAT RUNS ALONG THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE GREEN ARROW IS, RIGHT? YEAH, RIGHT THROUGH HERE.
SO IT IS, IT IS A SEPARATE OFF ROAD TRAIL FOR, UM, IT'S, THERE WILL BE A TOWNSHIP TRAIL MAINTAINED BY THEIR HOA.
BUT WHERE WOULD IT START THOUGH? THAT TOWNSHIP TRAIL, RIGHT ABOUT THAT HOUSE THERE.
SIDEWALK BRINGS IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THERE.
WE BRING OUR SIDEWALK TO HERE.
THEN THERE'S SIDEWALK IN THE PROJECT THAT YOU COULD USE OR THERE'S THE TRAIL, UH, AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH KIND OF RUNS THIS WAY.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU DO NOT AS, THAT'S THROUGH OPEN SPACE.
UM, WE WORKED WITH STAFF ALMOST EVERY LOT EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OAK BACKS UP TO OPEN SPACE OR COMMON AREA.
HOW MUCH IS SAFE? HOW MUCH OPEN SPACE IS SAFE ON THAT? IT'S ABOUT PLUS MINUS NINE ACRES.
NINE NINE AND CHANGE, UM, IS BETWEEN COMMON AND OPEN SPACE AND THE BASES ARE LOCATED IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
AND THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA THAT WILL ALL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA? YES.
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THE TRAIL USERS? NO, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL, UH, AUXILIARY PARKING FOR THE TRAIL USERS.I, I THINK THE IDEA WAS YOU CAN WALK FROM THE TAYLOR FARM WHERE THERE WILL EVENTUALLY BE A PARKING LOT THERE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING UP HERE ACROSS RIDGE PIKE AND THEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT OPEN SPACE.
WE'LL GET THERE, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU CAN GET UP TO RIDGE PIKE AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF TRAVEL THAT GOES DOWN RIDGE PIPE.
ANYBODY ELSE? WHEN WOULD THIS GET STARTED? UM, WELL ORIGINALLY MY GOAL WAS TO START ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
SO SOME, SOMETIME THIS BEHIND SOME, YEAH, I'M A LITTLE BEHIND.
DON'T REMIND MY PARTNER ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE SOMETIME THIS SUMMER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE APPLIED FOR AND WORKED OUT, UM, SEWER CAPACITY AND, AND WATER.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR PLANNING MODULE TO COME BACK.
UM, THERE WAS A PLANNING MODULE FOR THE PUMP STATION OBVIOUSLY.
SO WE'RE WAITING FOR DEP TO PROCESS.
ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE IN FINAL STAGE.
THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT, UM, IF WE HAVE YOUR VOTE TONIGHT, YOUR APPEAL PERIOD WOULD RUN.
UM, THE NPDS WILL PROBABLY BE ISSUED SOMETIME IN MAY, WHICH HAS A 30 DAY APPEAL PERIOD.
AND THEN WE'D BE LOOKING TO START, YOU KNOW, CLOSE THE LOANS.
IT STARTS SOMETIME IN JUNE OR, OR OR JULY.
HOW LONG IS THE ROAD DO YOU SEE? I DO.
IS IT 32? I THINK, I THINK WE'RE A 32 FOOT CART WAY ON THIS ONE.
THEY MEET THE TOWNSHIP STANDARD.
I MEAN THEY'RE NOT, THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED OR DRAFT FOR ANY WAIVERS MAKING THE ROAD NARROW.
YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER PRETTY PICTURE.
SO THE TOWNSHIP OWNS THE TWO BROWN AREAS.
IS THERE OTHER PRIVATELY OWNED LAND AROUND THAT AREA? NO, THE TOWNSHIP ACTUALLY OWNS THIS SIDE TOO.
IT OWNS THIS SIDE HEADING UP, UP THE HILLSIDE TOO.
IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED LAND HERE.
THIS IS PRIVATELY OWNED WITH THE PICO EASEMENT RUNS BACK HERE.
UM, THE PICO EASEMENT, IT'S NOT ONLY THE POWER LINES BUT THERE'S TWIN, I THINK 48 INCH WATER PIPES THAT RUN TO THE REACTOR AND THAT AREA JUST NORTH OF IT.
AND THIS IS OWNED R ONE AND THEN TASHA WINE IS RIGHT HERE.
THE QUESTIONS I'LL ASK FOR MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 17 GRANTING FINAL, FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR THE PINE ROAD DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU EVERYONE HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
[MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS]
ALRIGHT, ON TO MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS.SO ENGINEERING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT DATES.
UM, UPDATE ON THE FEMA DEMOLITION PROJECTS.
UM, THAT PROJECT STARTED, THE LARGER FEMA PROJECT THAT WAS CURRENTLY AWARDED IS SUPPOSED TO START ON APRIL 29TH.
SO NEXT WEEK THAT'S OVER HALF OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED GOING INTO THAT.
UM, THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING FOR THE TOLL FOLEY PROJECT DOWN ON RITTENHOUSE ROAD BY PJP.
CONSTRUCTION'S ANTICIPATED TO START MAY 1ST AND THE ROAD A UM, ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, SCHEDULED TO START THIS WEEK.
THEY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY WITH ALL THAT WEATHER WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, BUT, UM, THAT WILL GET UNDERWAY.
AND FOR THE SECOND AVENUE SANITARY SEWER REPLACEMENT PROJECT, UM, SURVEY IS IN PROGRESS FOR THAT.
AND MR. YEAGER, THE TAYLOR FARM PARK, I THINK YOU WERE REMEMBERING WE PUT IN FOR A, UM, GRANT IN CONJUNCTION WITH DELTA FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SAW A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL BEING PLANNED OUT.
YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALL COORDINATED IN THAT BIG VAST GREEN AREA.
THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITIES THAT HAVE TO GO TO THE PUMP STATION AND THEN UP TO PROVIDENCE CORNER.
SO THERE'LL BE EASEMENTS FOR ALL OF THOSE UTILITIES THROUGH TAYLOR PARK.
BUT THE LOOP TRAILS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
IS THAT PUMP STATION SIZE? I MEAN, I'M HEARING ABOUT OTHER PRIVATE RESIDENCES AROUND THERE THAT YES, SOMEDAY MAY COME FORWARD TO TAP IN.
I DON'T THE PLANNING MODULE, UM, THE PUMP STATION ITSELF IS GONNA BE APPROVED FOR A HUNDRED ED AND THIS DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA TAKE 30 OF THEM.
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CAPACITY OVER.UH, NOTHING ADDITIONAL RECEIVING FROM ME.
UM, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE MONTHLY DEVELOPER IMPROVEMENT GUARANTEE REDUCTION LIST.
SO THERE'S A MOTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.
USUALLY BILL, IT'S USUALLY A VERY LONG LIST.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MONTHLY DEVELOPER DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPER IMPROVEMENT GUARANTEE REDUCTION LIST AS FOLLOWS.
ITEM A ONE 11 EAST LYNNFIELD TRAP ROAD LOT TWO.
RELEASE NUMBER ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,020 AND 20 CENTS.
ALRIGHT, ANY SUPERVISOR COMMENTS?
[UPCOMING EVENTS]
UPCOMING EVENTS, UH, BOARD SUPERVISORS, UH, MEETING SCHEDULES.AND THAT'S, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
IT'S A WORKSHOP ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY MAY 20TH AND THEN MAY 17TH.
BOTH OF THOSE ARE AT SEVEN AND THE WORKSHOP IS AT SIX.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE PARK HOUSE ONE.
SO IT'S MAY 1ST AND THEN IS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
UM, JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW BACK THERE, UM, THE AGENDA P IS, IS CLEARLY PARK HOUSE AND THEN THERE'S A MAY 15TH AND THAT'S TO BE DECIDED.
ADVISE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING IS MAY 15TH.
ACTUALLY, MS. KELSEY, IF I COULD INTERRUPT UHHUH, I I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE CANCELING THE MAY 15TH EAC MEETING BECAUSE OF THE IDEA OF LEAVING PARKHOUSE OPEN, LEAVING THE SECOND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OPEN FOR THE 15TH.
AND I, THE IDEA AT THIS MEETING WAS TO HAVE A, A DISCUSSION WITH HOA REPRESENTATIVES AND WE'RE GONNA, WE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WE WANT TO GIVE THEM AMPLE, YOU KNOW, WORTHWHILE TIME.
SO WE'RE GONNA PUSH THAT MEETING BACK WITH THE HOA REPRESENTATIVES AND JUST HAVE AND PROBABLY CANCELED THIS MEETING.
SO THIS MAY 15TH ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL'S GONNA BE CANCELED.
AND THEN THE PARTS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING IS MAY 8TH, AT SIXTH AND MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY IS JUNE 6TH AT SEVEN.
AND THE ZONING HEARING BOARD, UH, THERE'S NO PENDING APPLICATIONS FOR CLARITY.
REAL QUICK, YOU'RE CANCELING THE A A C MEETING, BUT YOU ARE NOT STARTING THE MAY 15TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT SIX? NO, IT'S STILL AT SEVEN.
THAT IS GONNA BE ON THE FIFTH.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE 15TH IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS, AS IT ALWAYS IS.
WHAT'S GETTING CANCELED IS THE MEETING BEFOREHAND.
CAN I ASK FOR A MOTION FOR ADJOURN? MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.