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WE KEEP LOWER.YOU CALL THIS MEETING QUARTER? YEAH.
[CALL TO ORDER]
MARCH, 2024.MEETING OF THE PROVIDENCE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, SO THE FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THIS DISCUSSION OF THE JANUARY 17TH, 2024.
[APPROVE AGENDA]
WE HAVE THE APPROVED AGENDA, AND NOT THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC, BUT PUBLIC COMMENT, SO, OKAY.MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE CURRENT, IT'S THE NEW AGENDA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONLY THREE.
CURRENT AGENDA IS APPROVED, UH, APPROVAL
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OF MINUTES, AND, AND THEN WE'VE GOT DISCUSSION OF JANUARY.SO LOOKING BACK TO SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS. UM, SO THE, THE FIRST THING I WOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT IS, UH, THE, WHICH IS ON THIS ONE'S AGENDA, IS THE, UH, UH, THE MEETING IN MAY TO INVITE THE TOWNSHIP'S, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.
WELL, THIS IS JUST TO APPROVE THESE MINUTES.
SO IF WE APPROVE THESE MINUTES, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE HOME OF THE HOA AND THE SPRING PLAN.
WELL, THERE WAS SOMETHING I WANTED TO BRING UP ON THE LAST MONTH'S TO CORRECT.
JANUARY'S MINUTE, NOT A CORRECTION, BUT JUST, UH, UH, THAT I WOULD LOOK INTO THIS PROGRAM, UH, FOR THE, UH, THE TREE PLANNING THAT WAS IN THAT NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT TOM BROUGHT ALONG.
AND I DID FIND, I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE PERSON WHO WAS, UH, NAMED IN THAT ARTICLE, AND IT'S PART OF THE DCNR COMMUNITY CONSERVATION PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM GRANTS.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? YEAH, I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE DCNR GRANT, BUT NOT THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY.
AND UNDER, UNDER THESE COMMUNITY CONSERVATION PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM GRANTS, UH, THE ONE THAT THEY RECEIVED, WHICH WAS, UM, FRENCH AND PICKERING TRUST WAS THE RIVER CONSERVATION AND COMMUNITY GRANT NOW, SO, SO, BUT THEY PROBABLY RECEIVED THE GRANT FROM LAST YEAR'S, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THEY PROBABLY PUT IT IN LAST YEAR AND GOT IT FOR 24.
SO THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE THIS YEAR, BUT WE'D HAVE TO HAVE IT IN BY THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF APRIL.
SO I DUNNO IF THAT'S SOMETHING PRETTY QUICK, FAR AWAY.
NOT THAT GREAT A GRANT WRITING
UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN KEEP ON THE DOCKET JUST AS A REMINDER FOR FUTURE, IF WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME DATE THAT THEY'D USUALLY HAVE THINGS IN, WE CAN PUT IT ON, UM, FOR THINGS TO THINK ABOUT NOW.
SO IF WE HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IT IN AT THIS TIME IN 25 MM-HMM.
THAT'S HERE THE THIRD TUESDAY OF JANUARY AND CLOSES THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF APRIL.
YOU WANT ME TO FORWARD THIS? THAT'D BE GREAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT.
UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, IS THERE ANYTHING, HOW ABOUT THE SPRING FLING? IS THAT, YEAH, THAT'S AGENDA.
SO LET'S, LET'S MOVE TO, UH, ACTION DISCUSSION ITEMS. NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE TO HAVE MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
[2. Discussion re: Homeowners Association Meeting in May]
MOVE ON TO ACTION DISCUSSION ITEMS AND THE DISCUSSION OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATES.WHAT YOU'VE RECEIVED IN THE MAIL, AND THEN WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
PATTY IS CONSTANTLY WORKING ON THIS, AND AS THINGS DRIBBLE IN, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO, TO CATCH UP JUST TO WHAT HAS AN HOA, WHAT DOESN'T HAVE AN HOA, WHAT'S RUN BY, UM, SOME HOA BUSINESSES VERSUS A A SPECIFIC PERSON? UM, WHAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS A LOT OF THEM ARE RUN BY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES AT THIS POINT.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK THROUGH THAT WALL AND GET THEM TO GIVE US A NAME OF SOMEONE ON AN HOA, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE STONEWALLING US.
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STRANGE TO ME.BUT I HAVE YET TO MAKE A SECOND PHONE CALL.
UM, WE CAN STILL HAVE THE MEETING.
I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE STILL A LITTLE LIGHT ON HOAS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET A GREAT TURNOUT, BUT WE CAN PUT THE CALL OUT THERE AND ASK PEOPLE THE RSVP BY LIKE THE FIRST OR 2ND OF MAY, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE THEN.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF A TURNOUT, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO GET JEFF? A MEETING.
I SEE YOU HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
I'M TRYING TO GET A SPECIFIC PERSON, LIKE BOB HEIST IS ON OUR HOA WHERE HIM AND I LIVE.
WE, AND SOME, BUT SOME PLACES HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
BUT THEY STILL HAVE AN HOA, RIGHT? LIKE OF THE RESIDENT.
SO YOU WANT THAT NAME OF THAT PERSON.
WE WANT NAME MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
WE DON'T WANT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, BETTER WAYS OF CONTROLLING YOUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, MAINTENANCE OF YOUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WHILE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY MIGHT DO THOSE THINGS, IS IT'S GONNA COME IN THE DIRECTION OF THE HOA, MY CONCERN IS IF WE SIT DOWN WITH A BUNCH OF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES, THEY'RE JUST GONNA GO, UH, OKAY.
WE WANT THE HOAS TO DIRECT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES TO START CHANGING HOW THEY DO THINGS TO LESS.
SO, SO IF I KNOW A COUPLE DIRECTLY, YOU WANT THOSE NAMES? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
NOW, I KNOW PINCO WON'T GIVE OUT THE BOARD LIKE MY INFORMATION TO THE RESIDENTS.
SO THAT COULD BE WHY THEY'RE NOT GIVING THAT TO YOU.
WELL, AND AND AGAIN, IT IS LIKE, 'CAUSE OTHERWISE YOU CAN GET HARASSED, BUT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT THAT'S A DISCUSSION, BUT IT'S ALSO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY WHY THEY'RE RELUCTANT TO GIVE YOU NAMES.
AND, AND, BUT PART OF WHY WE'RE ALSO DOING THIS IS FOR THE FIRE EMERGENCY SERVICES SIDE, THEY WANT HAVE A CONTACT OUT THERE.
AND MY ANSWER TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS, WELL, YOU CAN GIVE ME A RESIDENT IF YOU GIVE ME A RESIDENT NAME.
WE'RE NOT GONNA BE CALLING YOU AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO COME AND TAKE CARE OF SOMETHING, OR TO BE THE ONE THAT ANSWERS UNLOCKS A GATE OR DOES SOMETHING RIGHT ON SITE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED THAT DIRECT CONTACT.
WE'RE NOT ASKING 'EM TO CHANGE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
WE WANNA HAVE A LAYER OF CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR HOAS AND US.
WELL, I KNOW FOR KUBOTA, YOU DON'T HAVE FACEBOOK.
HE'S THE, HE'S THE ACTUAL HOA.
WE ALWAYS TRY TO AIM FOR THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT'S THE VICE PRESIDENT.
HE'S IN CHARGE OF ARCHITECTURE.
HE'S THE GUY WHO WALKS AROUND AND TELLS YEAH.
HE'S THE GUY WHO WALKS AROUND AND TELLS YOU, EVERYBODY TELLS YOU YOU'RE WRONG.
SO I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A LETTER FROM HIM IN A COUPLE YEARS, SO YEAH, DON'T SAY THAT TOO LOUD.
SO, UM, WE CAN STILL HAVE THE MEETING.
UM, WE CAN PUT THE CALL OUT AND SAY WE'RE HAVING A MEETING AND SEE WHAT KIND OF RS VP WE GET BY LIKE THE 1ST OF MAY.
AND THAT'LL GIVE US A SENSE OF, WELL, IF WE CONTACTED THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES WITH THE PROGRAM YEAH.
THAT WE'RE OFFERING, WOULD THEY, WOULDN'T YOU THINK THEY WOULD PASS IT TO THE OA YOU WOULD HOPE? WELL, BUT WE'RE GETTING A PRETTY STONEWALLED FROM THEM TO WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE THEM.
AND THAT'S ALL THE, THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION WE'LL GIVE, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH PECO.
THAT'S
BUT I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I THINK THAT'S A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING SOMEBODY TO COME, IS AT LEAST YOU SEND IT TO MANAGEMENT COMPANY, SAY, PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO YOUR HOA BOARD.
WELL, AND, AND WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN PUT AN AGENDA TOGETHER AND, AND GET A SENSE.
IT REALLY, IT'S JUST SORT OF AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING IS HOW I LOOK AT IT.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING FORMAL OR, YOU KNOW, LONG SEMINAR.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING EDUCATIONAL, SOMETHING A LITTLE INFORMAL JUST TO SORT OF GET TO KNOW THE HOA TO KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND THAT WE WOULD LIKE THEIR HELP IN IMPLEMENTING SOME BETTER LAND MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, UM, SEE WHAT THEY THINK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE TOWNSHIP OR THE EAC CAN DO TO HELP THEM OUT.
SO YEAH, WHEN ALL THESE HOAS WERE FORMED, SO AN HOA, FOR THE MOST PART, THE TOWNSHIP DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEIR ROADS OR IT, IT DEPENDS.
SOME, THERE'S, THERE'S AN H SOME HOAS, YOU'LL HAVE THE, THE ROADS DON'T BELONG TO THE HOA, BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER HOAS WHERE THE ROADS DO BELONG TO THEM.
SO IT, IT VARIES BETWEEN HOA, IT, IT, IT DEPENDS.
SOME HOAS HAVE, OR SOME DEVELOPMENTS, WE'VE TAKEN THE ROADS, WE'VE ACCEPTED DEDICATION OF THE ROADS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE HOA BECAUSE THEY HAVE STORMWATER FACILITIES OR JUST, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMON, OTHER COMMON AREAS THAT WE DON'T MANAGE.
SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, EVEN CONTACTING THEM FOR JUST THAT.
SO WE WOULD'VE A CONTACT IN CASE WE HAD TO GO OUT AND CLEAN UP A SPILLWAY OR SOMETHING.
UM, OTHERS, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S HOAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ALL CONTROLLING, LIKE WHITE SPRINGS FARM, IT'S ROADS, IT'S OPEN SPACE, IT'S TRAILS, IT'S THE CLUBHOUSE, ALL OF THAT.
OUR MINE AT VODA IS, IS LIKE THAT.
HOW ABOUT, UH, THE GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY HERE? YEAH, THEY HAVE HOAS EACH, PROBABLY EACH ONE OF THEIR, BETWEEN THE MASTERS, THERE'S, THERE'S THE MASTERS, THE MANOR AND ONE, AND, AND THE TOWNHOUSES.
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ALL HAVE THEIR OWN.EACH ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL THINGS HAS AN HOA.
THAT'S TRULY A GATED COMMUNITY AS WELL.
BUT LIKE WHERE TOM LIVES IN THE HIGHLANDS DOWN OFF OF SECOND AND SPRINGER TOWN, THEY'RE PUBLIC ROADS.
THEY DON'T HAVE AN HOA, THE STORMWATER BASINS ARE MANAGED, TAKEN CARE OF BY THE PEOPLE WHO THE, IT'S LIKE THERE'S A HOUSE HERE AND IT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THEY JUST HAVE AN EXTRA LARGE LOT WITH THE STORMWATER BASIN ON IT.
SO, BUT THERE'S NO HOA, BUT THERE'S NO HOA.
AND THOSE ARE ALSO, WE WANT TO TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THOSE.
AND MAYBE THAT'S THE NEXT STEP THAT WE REACH OUT TO THEM OVER THE SUMMER.
WE IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE ARE AND WE REACH OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ON MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE.
SO, SO THE, THE ACTUAL STORM WATER FACILITY IS ON SOMEONE'S PRIVATE? YES.
THE TOWNSHIP'S POLICY HAS BEEN, IF YOU ARE SUBDIVIDING A COMMUNITY AND YOU PUT STORM WATER BASINS ON, ON A LARGE PIECE OF OPEN SPACE, WE WON'T TAKE IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA MANAGE THAT STORMWATER FACILITY.
SO YOU NEED TO HAVE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION TO DO IT UNLESS YOU SUBDIVIDE THAT LARGE OPEN SPACE AND MAKE IT JUST LARGER LOTS FOR EVERYBODY.
AND ALL OF THE MECHANICALS, AND YOU CAN HAVE THE STORMWATER BASIN COULD BE ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT LOTS, BUT ALL OF THE MECHANICAL OPERATION PART OF IT HAS TO BE ON ONE PERSON'S LOT.
AND THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND SIGN AN OPERATION MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WHEN THEY BUY THE HOUSE.
THE CHALLENGE IS, IF THAT HAPPENED IN 19 7, 19 89, 19 92, THAT HOUSE IS SOLD THREE TIMES, WHO OWNS IT NOW, DOESN'T KNOW THAT THEY NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
OR IS THAT PUT IN AS A DEED? UH, IT'S PUT IN AS AN AGREEMENT ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT IF YOU, IF I WAS TO BUY YOUR HOUSE FOR CASH, I WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A TITLE SEARCH.
YOU WOULD JUST SIGN IT OVER TO ME.
I MEAN, I SHOULD GO THROUGH A TITLE SEARCH.
BUT STILL, I MEAN, I KNOW NOWADAYS, AND I ASSUME THIS HAPPENS ABOUT PROVIDENCE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT IT EVEN IF, IF IT'S JUST STORM WATER FOR YOUR OWN PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE TOWNSHIPS ARE REQUIRING DEED RESTRICTION PUT IN THE DEED.
AND WE WE'RE DOING THAT GIVES ATTACHED THE RIGHT TO COME ON YOUR PROPERTY IF YES.
AND, AND WE ARE DOING THAT NOW.
CATCHING UP TO WHAT WE DID IN 1992 IS THE BIT OF A CHALLENGE.
NO, I JUST SAW IT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2018.
IT, IT, IT'S FAIRLY NEW THAT, THAT DEP IS REQUIRING THAT DEP HAS BASICALLY COME OUT AND SAID, LOOK, IF WE GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT A STORMWATER FACILITY AND WE GO OUT THERE AND WE LOOK AND SEE THAT IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING CORRECTLY, WE'RE NOT FINDING THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, WE'RE JUST SENDING THE VIOLATION NOTICE TO THE TOWNSHIP.
ULTIMATELY THE TOWNSHIP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF ITS STORM, ITS OWN STORMWATER FACILITIES, WHETHER IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PUBLIC PROPERTY.
SO THEN THAT GIVES THE SHIP TO, RIGHT.
SO NOW THAT'S WHY WE HAVE AN OPERATION MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
IF WE FIND ONE A BASIN, LET'S JUST SAY, THAT ISN'T UP TO OUR STANDARDS OR OUR NEW STANDARD, IF WE WANT THEM ALL TO BECOME LIKE GARDENS OF SOME KIND.
LIKE YOU HAD JUST SAID, THE RATE RING, RING GARDENS.
THIS IS NO LONGER IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR NEW STANDING LAW TO SEE IF SOMEONE WOULD CONNECT TO US.
WE COULD CERTAINLY, I MEAN, THAT I THINK IS, IS PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET DOWN TO IS OKAY.
IT'S JUST GOING OUT THERE AND POSTING IT AND SAYING, CONTACT US, CONTACT THE TOWNSHIP POLICE.
WHOEVER MANAGES THE SPACE AND PLEASE CONTACT THE TOWNSHIP.
AND WE STILL MAY NOT GET ANYBODY TO COPY THAT, BUT NO, SOMEBODY, BUT IF YOU START PUTTING UP LIKE BRIGHT ORANGE FENCING, DIFFERENT PRETTY THINGS, USUALLY THAT'S WHEN YOU GET THE FIRST CALL THAT THIS NO LONGER LOOKS THE WAY IT DID YESTERDAY.
WHAT IS THIS? AND, AND WHAT WE, THE EVENTUAL GOAL IS WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO USE GRANT MONEY OR, OR WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN FIND TO HELP THESE HOAS CONVERT THESE BASINS FROM GOOSE FARMS. YEAH.
WE'RE NOT COMING AT THEM TO SAY, YOU NEED TO PAY FOR THIS WHOLE NEW THING WE'RE TRYING TO ASSIST WITH.
AND THAT'S THAT, THAT GRANT THAT I LOOKED UP FROM DCNR AND I ACTUALLY SENT AN EMAIL TO TWO LADIES WHO, WHO GAVE A PRESENT, THEY WERE WITH DCNR.
C AND YEAH, THEY, THEY WERE THERE TO TELL PEOPLE AND THERE WERE SOME PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THERE AS WELL.
HEY, WE'RE HERE TO, YOU KNOW, HELP YOU OUT AND POSSIBLY GIVE YOU SOME FUN TO DO IT.
AND, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LINE PEOPLE UP NOW SO THAT MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN ABSOLUTELY.
COMING FORWARD, WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN.
LIKE IF THEY'RE ALL BOARD, THEN WE CAN HAVE SOME SPECIFICS FOR OUR BRAND.
WE'RE GONNA NEED TO KNOW MONEY SPECIFICS ON HOW MUCH, IF IT'S A MATCHING, LIKE HOW MUCH WE CAN PROVIDE ON THE TOWNSHIP SIDE AND ASK HOW MUCH WE CAN ACTUALLY ASK FOR FOR YEAH.
IT'S, BUT I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE PROJECT TO ABSOLUTELY KEEP PURSUING.
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NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO LOOK AT AN EMPTY BASIN EITHER.IT'S NOT THE MOST, OR ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S LIKE JUST MUD ON THE BOTTOM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
I MEAN THE GREEKS, THESE BASINS HAVE, ESPECIALLY SOME THAT DURING OUR BIGGEST GROWTH SPURT BETWEEN 95 AND 2010, I MEAN, SOME OF THESE BASINS ARE 15 YEARS OLD OR 25 YEARS OLD EVEN.
AND THE AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT HAVE GONE IN THERE AND JUST SAT AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
THAT THEY'RE NOT AS EFFECTIVE ANYMORE.
I KNOW WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TAKE A BASIN FROM A CONSTRUCTION BASIN TO A, TO A TO A, A MAINTENANCE TO A, A STORMWATER RETENTION BASIN, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU BUILD IT FOR A CERTAIN WAY WHEN THE, THE SITE'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT CATCHES A LOT OF THE SILL, IT CATCHES A LOT OF DIRT WHEN THEY GO IN THERE AND THEY CLEAN THAT OUT, THEY'RE CLEANING UP FEET OF DIRT AND THAT'S JUST ONE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
I CAN'T IMAGINE OVER 25 YEARS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GRASS AND IT FILTERS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, HOW MUCH EXTRA STUFF HAS JUST GOTTEN IN THERE THAT HASN'T BEEN CLEANED OUT.
SO IT'S JUST NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS IT USED TO BE.
AND EVEN IN THOSE DAYS, IF PROCEDURALLY WAS CLEANING OUT THE BASIN BEFORE EVERYTHING OR AFTER EVERYTHING WAS STABILIZED PART OF THE PROCEDURE, OR WAS IT JUST LIKE, LET'S GET IT GRADED, THROW SOME SEED DOWN AND NOW YOU'RE JUST GRADING ALL THAT SILT MM-HMM.
WHICH IS FINES AND YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
SO I WILL CONTINUE TO, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REFINE THIS IF YOU KNOW OF ANY, I HAVE A COUPLE I CAN GET YOU TO.
IF YOU WANNA LOOK THROUGH IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY THAT THEY KNOW OF OR EVEN IF THEY JUST KNOW SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YEAH, I CAN TALK TO PARKWOOD PEOPLE.
WE HAVE I THINK THREE OR FOUR PARKWOOD PEOPLE THAT I THINK LIVE IN H WAYS.
EVEN IF YOU JUST KNOW SOMEBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE BEEN CONTACTING YOU WHO KNOWN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
HEY, DO YOU KNOW WHO'S ON OA? OH YEAH, OF COURSE.
I CAN, CAN I, MY NEXT BOARD MEETING I CAN TRY TO ASK OUR REP IF THEY KNOW OF ANY OTHERS THAT THEY MANAGE IN UNDER PROVIDENCE.
AND IF THEY, THEY TRY TO EXPLAIN LIKE, HERE'S WHAT THEY'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
ANY WAY YOU CONNECT US WITH THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
'CAUSE WE'VE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT, HEY, LOOK, DO YOU, WE'VE ASKED THAT QUESTION.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THIS ONE BECAUSE I, I KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW THEY DON'T GIVE OUT OUR INFORMATION TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY, IT'S LIKE A BUFFER BETWEEN US.
LIKE THERE'S WHAT ABOUT PRIVATELY OWNED? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WELL, LIKE OURS IS PRIVATELY OWNED.
AND, AND WHEN YOU WERE OUT THERE, WE MENTIONED LIKE THE, THE HOUSE THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF SPRINGER TOWN AND MINGO RIGHT THERE BY THE BRIDGE, THAT BASIN THAT'S THERE.
'CAUSE THAT GUY OWNS THE HOUSE.
AND THE BASIN'S ACTUALLY, HE OWNS THAT BASIN.
AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO HIM TOO.
OR I SHOULDN'T ASSUME IT'S JUST A HIP.
I WILL, WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO THEM TO SAY, HEY LOOK, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AND MAYBE FIND NUMEROUS THINGS.
BECAUSE MY BROTHER-IN-LAW USED TO LIVE ON PIN OAKS OVER IN OAKS AND HE, HE WAS THE SAME WAY.
HE HAD A BASIN IN HIS BACKYARD.
AND I ASKED HIM LIKE, DO YOU TAKE CARE OF IT? HE GOES, I GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT IT.
HE GOES, I GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I DON'T REALLY DO ANYTHING.
I KNOW THAT GUY TOO, SO I CAN GIVE YOU HIS NAME.
SO PIN OAKS IS AN HOA THAT'S WHAT WE THINK.
BUT WE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOTTEN, I MEAN THERE'S SOME, THESE ARE ALL NEIGHBORHOODS WE KNOW FOR SURE.
WELL, WHETHER THEY HAVE HOA WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, I HAVE A MAP IN MY OFFICE OF ALL OF THE SUBDIVISIONS.
AND ALL OF THE NAMES LIKE PROVIDENCE, THIS, PROVIDENCE THAT RESERVE THIS, RESERVE THAT.
AND PATTY WENT THROUGH AND WE'VE GOT THEM ALL LISTED AND SHE'S GONE THROUGH THE ONES WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT AND WE'VE HAD SOME LISTS FOR YEARS.
WE'VE MOVED THAT FORWARD AND CONTACTED THEM.
SAY, DO YOU STILL, YOU'RE STILL IN THE HOA, SHE'S REACHED OUT TO OTHERS.
THAT'S HOW SHE FINDS A LOT OF THE, UM, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT DO IT.
SO IT IT IS, IT'S JUST A HUNT AND PECK AND IT'S A TIME CONSUMING THING.
BUT I MEAN, SHE'S MADE GREAT, GREAT STRIDES ON THE LIST.
SO, AND SOME PEOPLE LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE HIGH POINT AT PROVIDENCE, UM, FAITH ROSA, SHE JUST, SHE CAME IN ONE DAY AND WE'RE JUST LIKE, OH WAIT A MINUTE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AND WE JUST SAID, OH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE 10 YOUR INFORMATION FOR THIS.
SAME THING WITH RIVER I HER NAME'S ON RIVER CREST TOO? YEAH, SHE DOES A COUPLE OF THEM.
SO SHE, WHAT IS SHE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY? YEAH, SHE'S, SHE'S PART OF CAMCO MANAGEMENT.
SO IN THAT CASE, YOU'RE OKAY WITH DEALING WITH HER BECAUSE YOU KNOW YEAH.
AND I JUST REALIZED THAT HUNT CLUB VALLEY FOR HUNT CLUB, CRAIG KAUFMAN, HIS KID AND MIKE ARE ON THE SAME SOCCER SCENE.
I DIDN'T LOOK, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT NAME UNTIL JUST NOW.
IT'S FUNNY 'CAUSE WE WERE SITTING AROUND THIS ROOM, WE'RE ALL IN BALTIMORE FOR A TOURNAMENT AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CALLS I GET DURING THE DAY OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING AND I MENTIONED ONE.
HE'S LIKE, I GET THAT PHONE CALL A LOT TOO.
AND THAT'S WHEN I FOUND IT BECAUSE IT AN HOA
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THING AND LITERALLY DID NOT CLICK UNTIL JUST NOW.DIDN'T EVEN, DIDN'T EVEN CLICK UNTIL I SEE PROVIDENCE CHASE.
UH, SO WHERE IS HUNT CLUB? HUNT CLUB IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING, WHEN YOU'RE ON 4 22 AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT SCI, THERE'S TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO IT OR YEAH, TOWNHOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
SO IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF CIDER MILL, CIDER MILL ON THE OTHER, BETWEEN THAT AND THE RIVER.
NO, IT'S, WHAT WAS IT? PROVIDENCE HUNT VALLEY.
THERE'S ONE OTHER AND LIKE ONE HAS AN HOA, THE OTHER ONE DOESN'T.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF BIZARRE.
SO YEAH, PROVIDENCE HUNT IS THE ONE RIGHT HERE CORNER.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEND OUT THE THING, TRY AND GET RSVPS BY THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK OF MAY.
AND IF WE HAVE TO PIVOT FOR THAT MAY MEETING, WE WILL FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT THAT GREAT.
AND WHAT ELSE IS HERE? DISCUSSION OF SPRING
[3. Discussion re: Spring Fling]
PLAYING SPRINGING TIME SPRING.SO, UM, I KNOW I BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT SPRING PLAYING IN OUR LAST MEETING.
IT IS OUR NEW SPRING EVENT FOR THE
UM, EGG HUNTS ARE JUST EVERYWHERE.
IT'S A SATURATED MARKET, SO WE FELT LIKE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO THE TRUNK OR TREAT.
UM, WE ALREADY HAVE I THINK 10 BUSINESSES THAT ARE REGISTERED TO, UM, DO TRUCKS THAT DAY.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING FOR AT THIS POINT, ONE OF THE ADDITIVES TO
SO WE ARE WORKING WITH AERATOR FARM TO SEE IF THEY'LL DONATE SOME SOIL, BUT WE DID PURCHASE A LOT OF PEA POTTS SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM OUT TO KIDS OR ADULTS ALIKE, HAVE A BIG TABLE, HAVE A BUNCH OF SOIL OUT SHOVELS, PEA POTTS.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO, WHAT'S A PEA POD? BUT I, I'M SORRY, I ACTUALLY WAS GONNA BRING ONE IN THIS A AS A SAMPLE, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A COMPOSITE, UM, THAT YOU CAN PLANT SOIL AND PLANTS IN POT PEAK.
PAT PLANT THE WHOLE THING IN THE GROUND.
YEAH, BUT WHAT'S IT, WHAT'S IT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE SEED OR WHAT'S THE WHAT? SO THE PLANT WE'RE GONNA DO IS PROBABLY MORE OF A FLOWER PLANT JUST TO GET PEOPLE STARTED.
I THOUGHT PEA POPP WASN'T WHAT I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PLANT.
IT'S THE POD FIRST WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PEA PODS.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING, LIKE PLANTING PEAS.
LIKE I DON'T REALLY LIKE PEAS.
I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT SPOKE UP.
SO PEA PODS WITH PEA, EVERYONE ELSE IS GONNA LET ME GO ON.
SO THE PEA PEA PODS WE WERE GOING TO GIVE OUT TO PEOPLE OF THE PUBLIC WHO COME OVER AND THEY YES,
AND WE'LL GIVE THEM SEEDS AND THEY WILL LEARN HOW TO GROW THEM.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY FOR LITTLE KIDS, IT JUST GIVES THEM THAT EXPERIENCE OF GROWING SOMETHING ON THE ROAD.
UM, KEN HAD GIVEN ME A LIST OF, UM, TREE, UM, SEED COMPANY.
AND THERE WAS A TREE ONE THAT I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AS WELL TO SEE IF NEXT YEAR IF THERE WAS LIKE A SAPLING OPTION THAT WE COULD GIVE OUT SAP UM, SAPLINGS TO RESIDENTS OF UPT.
SO HOPEFULLY BY NEXT YEAR, IF THIS EVENT IS SUCCESSFUL, GREAT.
UM, WE'LL TRY TO, UH, POP UP THE ANTE A LITTLE BIT FOR PEOPLE NEXT YEAR.
BUT WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE FOR THE EAC IS TO COME TO THIS EVENT, HAVE THE TABLE TO INSTRUCT THOSE PETE PODS.
SO, WELL THIS SAYS PODS ON THE THING.
WHATEVER ONE IPODS SAYS PODS PETE.
ANYWAY, SO IF, UM, I CAN SEND YOU ALL THE INFORMATION AGAIN, UM, I FIGURED SAVE PAPER, I'LL JUST EMAIL EVERYBODY ALL OF OUR FLYERS, UM, INFORMATION ON THAT DAY ALONE.
BUT THE MORE HANDS WE HAVE ON THAT DAY, THE BETTER.
UM, WE'VE NEVER RUN THIS EVENT, SO WE'RE UNSURE OF EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL COME OUT.
BUT WE ALL ARE ALSO, UM, HAVING LIKE A SEARCH AND FIND LIKE A LITTLE HUNT FOR THE KIDS TO DO.
THEY'RE NOT EASTER, EASTER EGGS, BUT THERE WILL BE TREATS FOR THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE.
LIKE IF YOU CAN GO FIND THE RAIN BOOTS OUT ON THE TRAIL, TAKE A PICTURE OF THE RAIN BOOTS, YOU COME BACK AND YOU GET A LITTLE TREAT FROM US THERE.
WHEN IS YOU PLAN ON THIS? THIS IS THE 18TH, RIGHT? APRIL 18TH.
APRIL 18TH IS, NO, YOU HAVE, THAT'S 13TH SATURDAY, APRIL 13.
I KNEW IT WAS A TEAM BECAUSE I'M LIKE, WAIT, THE 20TH IS THE, IS THE SATURDAY IS THE THE OPEN HOUSE.
THERE'S SO MANY EVENTS IN APRIL AND MAY THAT IT'S, IT'S AND YOU'RE HAVING THIS WHERE ANDERSON? NO, IT'S HERE.
SO IT'S GONNA BE HERE AT THE DOUBLE-SIDED PAVILION AT BLACKROCK.
AND THEN WE'RE USING THE TRAIL FOR A LITTLE SEARCH AND FIND FOR THE KIDS.
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SEND YOU ALL THE INFORMATION TODAY, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE SOME EAC MEMBERS THERE.YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS EAC C'S DOING, GET COMMENTS AND CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC.
IF THERE'S THINGS THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE WORKING ON IN FRONT OF OTHERS.
TRY TO GET A PRIORITY LIST OF THINGS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S ALWAYS A BONUS, UM, ON THAT SAME DAY.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO BE LIKE EXTRA GREEN THAT DAY,
WE PARTNER WITH PERM AND WATERSHED AND PERM AND WATERSHED IS HAVING THEIR HUGE SITE CLEANUP ON THAT SAME DAY.
I HAVE THAT FLYER AS WELL READY TO GO OUT TO AN EMAIL WITH YOU FOR YOU GUYS.
BUT THEY ARE USING ANDERSON FARM PARK.
THEY'RE CLEANING UP MCFARLAND PARK, THEY ARE CLEANING UP, UM, MILDRED HESS, IF THEY CAN GET OVER THERE.
THEY'RE DOING ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE OF OUR PROPERTIES THAT DAY.
SO THEY'RE SENDING GROUPS TO EACH ONE AND THEY WILL CLEAN FOR A COUPLE HOURS AND GET AS MUCH DEBRIS AS THEY CAN.
THEY BRING OVER TRUCKS AT ALL THE SITES AND THEN THEY DUMP EVERYTHING OVER AT ANDERSON.
THEY GET THIS HUGE DUMP, UM, DUMPSTER, BIG DUMPSTER.
AND UM, THEY PUT EVERYTHING IN THERE.
THEY COME AND COLLECT IT THAT MONDAY.
SO WHAT DO THEY, WHAT ARE THEY CLEANING UP? THEY'RE CLEANING UP THE TRAILS AND ANY OPEN SPACES UP THE TRASH, OBVIOUSLY.
THEY TAKE OUT LAST YEAR, I WISH I STILL PICTURES OF IT.
THE DUMPSTER OVER AT ANDERSON WAS OVERFLOWING WITH TRASH.
UM, WE HAD TWO DOZEN TIRES THAT THEY FOUND IN THE PARKS.
WE HAD PRINTERS, WE HAD HUMIDIFIERS, WE HAD DE HUMAN FIRES, WE HAD CHILDREN'S PLAY THINGS THAT PEOPLE JUST DUMPED.
BUT, UH, THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT MM-HMM.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU MEANT LIKE PICKING UP, UH, DOWN BRANCHES.
NO, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TRASH.
UM, THE SCO CANAL DOES ANOTHER ONE.
THEY DO IT USUALLY CLOSER TO, UM, THE FALL INTO THE WINTER.
UM, AND THAT ONE WE DO DOWN AT MCFARLAND PRIMARILY WE DO THE CANAL AREA, BUT THIS ONE IS THE SAME MORNING.
SO IT'S APRIL 13TH AS FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
I'LL SEND YOU THE INFORMATION, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO MULTIPLE SITES FOR US TO GO CLEAN UP.
SO IF YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO, TO PROMOTE, SAY THAT YOU'RE PART OF THE TOWNSHIP.
IF YOU NEED SHIRTS THAT SAY YOU'RE PART OF THE TOWNSHIP, COME SEE ME AND I WILL GIVE YOU A SHIRT SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE YOU'RE FROM.
BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, THAT TOWNSHIP STAFF, TOWNSHIP VOLUNTEERS ARE OUT THERE DOING, UM, THE CLEANUPS ON OUR OWN PROPERTIES.
AND I THINK FOR SPRINGING WE'LL TRY TO PUT, WE'LL GET A TABLE ORGANIZED SO SOME SORT OF SIGN SO I CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
CAN WE, CAN WE DO EAC TABLE AT THE COURTSHIP? YES.
DO YOU WANT IT OUT, OUT IN FRONT? PROBABLY LIKE OUT WHERE WE PUT OUR YEAH.
PEOPLE COME IN, REGISTER OR GO TO THE BATHROOM OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT TOO.
AND YOU CAN HAVE SOME FLYERS ON LIKE OIL RECYCLING.
OIL RECYCLING OR, I MEAN THE THINGS OBVIOUSLY CUTTING DOWN ON GAS, DON DON'T LEAVE YOUR TIRES IN.
BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD REVEAL ALLOWED THE, IT'S DISPLAY CAR IMAGERY, THE IMAGERY OF HOW MANY TIRES AND CAR REP, LIKE TRASH THAT WE FIND IN THE PARK THAT WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP.
LIKE WE CAN THROW THAT OUT TO THE CAR'S A LOT.
THE GUYS WHO REALLY PUT THEIR CARS TOGETHER, LIKE THEY DO, THEY AREN'T, ARE NOT THE ONES, THE ONES THAT NO, THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE DISCERNING, BUT THEY MIGHT KNOW SOMEBODY.
I WOULD PROMOTE THAT THING TOO.
SHOULD WE INVITE PERILLA AND WATERSHED TO HAVE A PRESENCE AT THE SPRINGING? THEY ALREADY INVITED 'EM.
SO THEY SAID IF THEY CAN COME BY AFTERWARDS OR THEY'LL SEND ME INFORMATION THAT I CAN PUT OUT ON OUR TABLE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH.
'CAUSE THEY'LL BE OUT AND ABOUT.
WHAT ABOUT AT THE SHREDDED EVENT? HAVING SOME SORT OF TABLE WITH JUST SOME INFORMATION OUT AT SHREDDED.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME HELP OUT AT SHREDDED.
AND WE CAN ALSO, SO SHREDDED IS ONE OF OUR, IT'S MAY 18TH.
UM, SO THIS ONE'S OUR SHREDDED EVENT AS WELL AS OUR E RECYCLE EVENT.
SO WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION FROM OUR E RECYCLE PEOPLE TO SEE IF YOU HAVE TO REGISTER OR PAY IN ADVANCE TO GET RID OF YOUR ELECTRONICS.
LIKE SOME OF THE BIGGER DEVICES LIKE YOUR BIG TVS, PRINTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT CAN'T JUST BE THROWN IN.
THEY HAVE TO BE, THEY CHARGE YOU A SMALL FEE FOR THOSE YOU CAN REGISTER IN ADVANCE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT, BUT I SHOULD HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, BY APRIL.
BUT SO BOTH OF THOSE EVENTS ARE ON MAY 18TH, THE SHREDDED AND THE ELECTRONIC? YES, THEY'RE THE SAME TIME.
MY QUESTION, JEFF, IS YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.
I MEAN, WE'RE SETTING UP THESE TABLES AT DIFFERENT EVENTS.
WHAT ARE WE SELLING? WE'RE NOT REALLY SELLING ANYTHING.
WELL, WHAT AREN'T WE PROMOTING? I THINK WE, WE CAN, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER SOME FLYERS AND SOME INFORMATION ON JUST SORT OF WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF EVENTS THAT WE WANT TO DO AND SOME, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE TOWNSHIP.
IT REALLY MIGHT JUST BE STANDING THERE SAYING HI TO EVERYBODY.
WELL, YOU KNOW THAT WE WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
BUT WHEN YOU SAID WE COULD HAVE A TABLE WITH
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SOME FLY, I'M THINKING WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE PROMOTING TO THE WELL, AND AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK OUT.AND CERTAINLY WE WOULD RUN THAT BY YOU.
YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE NOT SICK OF A FLYER THAT YOU HAVE TO HAND OUT AND YOU GO, I I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS.
WELL, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT TOO.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES IT IS JUST BEING THERE TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY RIGHT.
AND EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, WE CAN AT LEAST, IT MIGHT JUST BE AS SIMPLE AS, HEY, A LOT OF PEOPLE, HOW OFTEN WE MEET THE TOPICS WE'VE DISCUSSED TOPICS WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.
I MEAN, NOT SPECIFIC INFORMATION.
I, I DON'T THINK, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST A FLYER SAYING THAT WE ARE AN THERE IS AN EAC.
PEOPLE DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND JUST TO SAY HERE, HERE IT IS A CONCERN.
WE DON'T HAVE TO PROMOTE ANYTHING SPECIFIC UNLESS WE WANT TO.
BUT AT LEAST SAY HERE'S THERE IS THIS GROUP EXIST AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
I MEAN SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY WHAT, OR DO YOU GUYS EVER PROGRAM FOR SOLAR PANELS OR SOMETHING? YOU KNOW, WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE A LIST OF, HEY, HERE'S SOME PEOPLE AND THAT'S OKAY.
YOU CAN ALSO DO SOMETHING FUN, LIKE TRY TO DO SOMETHING INTERACTIVE WITH THE PEOPLE.
ESPECIALLY AT LIKE A SHREDDED EE RECYCLE.
IS IT JUST HAVE A COUPLE WHITEBOARDS AND SAY LIKE WHAT ARE THE MOST, UM, IN A, IN A SENSE OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN.
LIKE WHAT ARE YOUR BIG CONCERNS AND HAVE PEOPLE COME UP AND INTERACT WITH YOU AND WRITE THEM ON THERE SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT VERSUS WHAT WE ASSUME TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, DO WE STILL HAVE THOSE RECYCLE BINS? ARE THEY STILL AT TAYLOR? ALL THOSE ONES THAT WE USED TO GIVE OUT.
I DON'T KNOW ALL THOSE WE'D HAVE TO LOOK FOR, BECAUSE I'M THINKING LIKE THAT COULD BE AN EASY, IF WE'RE TRYING TO UNLOAD THOSE
LIKE HEY WE'RE THE EAC C HERE'S A RECYCLE BIN.
JUST 'CAUSE I CAN GET SWAG FOR YOU GUYS TO GIVE OUT TO PEOPLE AND BE LIKE, DON'T FORGET US.
BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LIKE, I'D HAVE TO GET REALLY CREATIVE.
LIKE IT MIGHT BE LIKE A SQUISHED BALL THAT'S IN EARTH.
LIKE WE WOULD HAVE TO GET OR A PEAPOT STOP.
NOW YOU'RE GONNA GET IN YOUR MOUTH LIKE JUST A STACK OF PEA POTS.
WE CAN START, I'LL TALK TO TOM TOMORROW AND SEE IF HE KNOWS WHERE ARE, I'M ASSUMING THEY, THE GRAPH.
WHO WERE THEY FOR AT ONE TIME? WE GAVE 'EM OUT TO NEW RESIDENTS.
UNTIL THEY BECAME VERY CUMBERSOME.
AND SO WE STARTED DOING, UM, REUSABLE BAGS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE GIVE TO NEW RESIDENTS NOW AND KNOW THOSE WHO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE
WELL, BECAUSE MOST OF THE TRASH.
WELL, AND THAT'S JUST THE THING, THE TOWNSHIP DOESN'T ACTUALLY PROVIDE RECYCLING OR TRASH SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
SO IT DIDN'T ALWAYS CORRELATE.
THAT'S THE TRASH COMPANIES SAYING IT SOUNDS LIKE A CONFLICT.
YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO, MOST TRASH COMPANIES WANT THEM TO USE YOURS, THEIR STUFF.
WELL THAT'S WHY BUT MAYBE, MAYBE SOME COMMERCIAL, UH, BUILDING MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE HALLWAY, IN A LITTLE TRASH ROOM, A RECYCLING BIN THAT GOES OUT TO THE EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
IT CAN ALSO BE USED AS A FILE CABINET.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT WE, THEY ACTUALLY, I FILE A LOT OF THINGS THEY'RE ACTUALLY REALLY, REALLY GOOD FOR WHEN YOU HAVE ROLLED PLANS.
THAT WE HAVE A HUNDRED OF THEM OVER, OVER MY SIDE.
IT'S JUST, AND THAT AND DOWNSTAIRS.
'CAUSE THE PLANS JUST FIT IN THEM PERFECTLY.
AND YOU STUFF A BUNCH IN THERE.
SO DOES THE, THE CLEANING PEOPLE THEN THAT, THAT'S A RECYCLABLE THING.
BUT THEN THE LINES HAVE BEEN DROPPED.
NO, WE ALSO HAVE THEM IN THE BASEMENT WHERE THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT THROWING THEM AWAY OF, 'CAUSE A TOWNSHIP HAS TO KEEP A BUILDING CONSTRUCTION PLAN FOR A COMMERCIAL BUILDING AS LONG AS THAT BUILDING EXISTS.
SO WE HAVE BUILDING, WE HAVE BUILDING PLANS THAT ARE, THEY COME IN HANDY.
WHEN WE MOVED FROM THAT BUILDING TO THIS BUILDING, WE DIDN'T BOTHER WITH BOXES.
WE JUST GOT A BUNCH OF RECYCLING.
THATS AND THEY WORK 'CAUSE THEY HAVE HANDLES LIKE THEY'RE NICE.
THEY'RE EASY TO STORE THINGS IN AND CARRY THEM AROUND.
SO IF WE CAN FIND THEM, WE TALK TO PUBLIC WORKS TO WHERE THEIR LOCATION IS LY.
TAYLOR, TAYLOR BARN, TAYLOR EVER GARAGE.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW COMING UP ELISE, IN A CAPACITY THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THIS GROUP.
UM, I THINK IN THE LAST MEETING TOO, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT I CAN HELP YOU PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW LORI'S NOT HERE AND WE'RE PROBABLY MISSING DO WE NEED AN EXTRA PERSON? WELL, BILL HAS GIVEN HIS RESIGNATION FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
HE WASN'T COMING ANYWAY, SO, AND HE IS ON ONE OF THE TOWNSHIP.
HE IS, HE'S THE, THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY REPRESENTATIVE.
LIKE HE'S PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, SO THE NEXT TIME THE THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY HAS A MEETING, THEY SHOULD APPOINT
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SOMEBODY TO COME TO THIS.I'M NOT SURE WHO, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING.
THAT BOARD REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT TO DO.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE VERY MANY MEETINGS.
WHAT IS THE RULE OF THAT COMMITTEE? THEY'RE THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY.
THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF, THEY TECHNICALLY OWN ALL OF OUR SEWERS.
BUT BASICALLY THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF SEWERS AND STORMWATER FACILITIES THAT THE TOWNSHIP OWNS.
SO, AND IT'S MORE, UM, SEWAGE AND SEWER THAT THEY OWN.
THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH FOR THEM TO DO BECAUSE PUBLIC WORK SORT OF TAKES CARE OF IT.
THEY ARE, IF THERE EVER IS A STORMWATER FEE IMPOSED BY THE TOWNSHIP, WHICH IS A WHOLE BIG LEGAL ISSUE RIGHT NOW, NOT FOR THIS TOWNSHIP, BUT FOR OTHER TOWNSHIPS.
AND WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
THEY WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF MAINTAINING THAT FEE AND MONITORING THAT FEE AND MAIN AND SUGGESTING PROJECTS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BASED ON MONEY COLLECTED FROM THAT FEE.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT BOARD AND SOMEBODY LIKE JEN FROM GILMORE THAT DOES STORM WATER? SHE'S STILL, SHE'S JUST A CONSULTANT TOO.
YEAH, I MEAN SHE'S A CONSULTANT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
THEY RIGHT MANAGE THE STORMWATER.
SHE MUCH LIKE SHE DOES FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
SHE MANAGES THE CIVIL ENGINEERING OF, OF EVERYTHING.
WHENEVER THERE'S A CIVIL ENGINEERING PROJECT FOR THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY OR FOR ME OR FOR PARKS AND REC, WE GO TO HER AND, AND SHE DESIGNS IT FOR US.
IS, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE THE TWO, IS THERE ANY KIND OF IT IT'S JUST TECHNICAL ADVISING FOR HER TO THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY.
'CAUSE YOU, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY DON'T LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER, LIKE PARKS AND REC.
YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE TECHNICAL AUTHORITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO HER ROLE, GILMORE'S ROLE WITH THAT IS TO ADVISE THEM ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED, WHAT NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED, WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHAT IT COSTS, IF THE COSTS ARE REASONABLE.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING MOST OF THE TIME, AREN'T THEY SCARED THEN? WELL, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S, IT'S MANAGED IN-HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S JUST MAINTENANCE OR EMERGENCY MAINTENANCE.
SO IT'S, IT'S SORT OF TAKEN CARE OF.
IT'S NOT SO THEY, DO THEY OVERSEE PUBLIC WORKS OR NO? NO, NO, NO.
THEY, NO, THEY, IT, IT'S LIKE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I MANAGE THE WORKFLOW THAT THEY GET.
BUT TECHNICALLY THEY'RE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO INSTRUCT ME TO DO THINGS.
JUST LIKE THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO INSTRUCT THEM TO THE PUBLIC WORKS.
IF THEY SAY, WE WANT YOU TO GO OUT AND FIX THIS.
BUT MOST OF THE TIME, LIKE WITH THE ROADS, EVERY YEAR THEY GO OUT AND THEY DO A SURVEY OF WHAT ROADS ARE IN WHAT SHAPE? THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY.
NO, THE PUBLIC WORKS DOES THAT.
AND THEN THEY ADVISE THE BOARD.
THE BOARD SAYS, OKAY, GO FIX THESE ROADS THAT YOU THINK ARE BAD.
WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GIVE THEM, IF THEY GIVE 'EM A LIST OF 10, THEY GO, WELL WE CAN ONLY AFFORD TO FIX FIVE.
AND THAT'S JUST A BUDGETING PROCESS.
AND A SO HOW BIG IS THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE WISE? OH MY GOD.
DID YOU EVER REPLACE YOUR LADY THAT LEFT? WHAT WAS HER NAME? I CAN'T.
OH, SARAH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS YOU.
OH, THAT'S THE NEW SARAH SARAH CALL.
WE DID WE, DID WE DISCUSS THAT BEFORE? DID I MISS IT OR DID I FORGET HE CAME TO THE LAST MEETING? I KNOW I'M OLD SO I DO FORGET.
YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T GET MY EMAIL.
SO YES, BOB CAME TO THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.
WELL THEY ALSO PREFER RESTRUCTURE THE DEPARTMENT A LITTLE BIT.
INSTEAD OF HAVING AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, WE NOW HAVE A RECREATION COORDINATOR.
THAT'S WHAT BOB IS THE RECREATION COORDINATOR COORDINATOR.
AND THAT ENTAILS WHAT? SO OUTSIDE, SO WE HAVE A PROGRAM COORDINATOR AND A RECREATION COORDINATOR.
SO OUR PROGRAM COORDINATOR IS MELISSA WILSON AND SHE HANDLES ALL THE PROGRAMMING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL AS ALL THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS THAT WE DO OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND THEN BOB HANDLES ALL OF OUR SUMMER CAMPS AND ALL OF OUR RENTALS.
AND WE'LL BE COMING ON AS KIND OF LIKE AN ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, CONSULT, UH, NOT CONSULTING.
'CAUSE YOU WORK HERE ADVISOR? YEAH.
BECAUSE HE HAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL BACKGROUND.
AND THE ROOMS COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO PEOPLE WOULD APPLY AND THEN YOU WOULD REVIEW IT AND SAY, YES, THAT'S A GOOD FIT OR DOESN'T FIT OR WHATEVER.
LAY DOWN THE LAW ON THE RULES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ABOUT S COMMUNITY, PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE IS ON HOPWOOD.
ONE 13 AND HOPWOOD, ATWOOD BALL FIELDS.
THE BUILDING THERE IS OUR REC CENTER IS OUR COMMUNITY CENTER.
OH, THE WHOLE AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE BASEBALL? NO, I'M IN HERE.
I THOUGHT I TRIED TO GET UP THERE AND A COUPLE HOURS A WEEK WHEN REST OF US, I'M NOT, YEAH, I'M
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BON DOWN FOR PARKS AND REC.COMMITTEE, THE WAY THIS COMMITTEE IS STRUCTURED, JUST AS A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY, WE HAVE TO, WE'RE A FIVE MEMBER COMMITTEE.
WE WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A MEMBER BY THE, THE CHARTER THAT WAS WRITTEN FOR US.
SOMEBODY FROM PARKS AND REC, WHICH IS KEN, SOMEBODY FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH IS TOM.
AND THEN, UM, SOMEBODY FROM THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY.
AND THAT'S THE PERSON WE'RE MISSING RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE TWO AT LARGE MEMBERS.
SO, AND IT FALLS, THERE'S NO REAL DEPARTMENT IT'S UNDER, BUT IT SORT OF FALLS UNDER SUE AND I, WE SORT OF SPLIT UP THE TIME AND, YOU KNOW, WORK THAT PROCESS THROUGH.
CAN I BRING UP SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA? YEP.
YES, WE'RE DONE WITH FLINGING.
AND WE, I DON'T SEE, I I, WHEN I SAID LET'S APPROVE THE AGENDA, I SHOULD HAVE SAID WAIT A MINUTE.
BUT, UM, WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR BAG THING? OUR SINGLE, YOU KNOW, I, I NEED, I NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH JOE ON THAT AND, AND, AND FIND OUT I'LL WHERE, JUST DRIVING AROUND.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO IN, SOMEBODY'S BACK.
ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR THEY'RE BLOWING AND THEY GET STUCK IN THE TREES.
I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO GET, UM, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN KING AND PRUSSIA, HOW THEIR RESPONSE HAS BEEN SO FAR.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE I WENT DOWN THERE TO RETURN SOMETHING IN YELLOW BEAN.
AND THEY DON'T GIVE BAGS AT ANYWHERE IN THE MALL EITHER.
EVEN IF YOU BUY BUNCH OF STUFF, TONS OF CLOTHES, WHATEVER.
THEY'RE LIKE, HOW ARE YOU TAKING THIS OUT TODAY IN THE MALL? AND YOU'RE LIKE, I I DON'T KNOW.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GIVING ME A BAG.
SO WHEN I WAS THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ON HOW THAT'S GOING.
NOT TO A GOOD IDEA, BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS ON HOW A PREMIER, I'M TELLING YOU, I THINK THEY'RE EVERYWHERE AND I IT'S NOT GETTING BETTER.
AND IT, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO QUICKLY.
AND, AND, AND THAT IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER STUFF.
WE HAVE TO DO THIS DO AND THAT THIS IS DONE.
WE JUST GOTTA GET THE IN FRONT OF THE SUPERVISOR.
SO WE HAVE WRITTEN, WE HAD A COPY OF UPPER MARION'S.
AND I HAVE NOT FOLLOWED UP TO MAKE SURE HE, HE HAS ONE THAT FOR US.
HE HAS AMBLER AND HE, HE, WELL HE HELPED WRITE AMBLER, BUT YOU ALSO GAVE HIM UPPER MARION.
AND SO WE WERE GONNA LOOK AT HOW THOSE TWO SORT OF MET.
NOW MORE THAN LIKELY WITH MOST OF THESE, THEY'RE PROBABLY TAKEN FROM EACH OTHER OR ONE OTHER SOURCE OR ORDINANCE.
SO WE'LL GET AN ORDINANCE TOGETHER.
WE'LL HAVE THAT BY MAY IF WE DON'T DO THE HOA STUFF OR BY JULY IF WE DO WELL, SO THAT YOU CAN REVIEW IT.
AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE THE, YOU CAN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, LIKE WE DO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE GRASS ORDINANCE TOO.
YOU HAVE THE ISSUE WITH THE GRASS ORDINANCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE PHOENIX, THE WAY IT'S GONNA WORK IS YOU ARE GONNA GET IT TOGETHER AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD THAT THEY ADOPTED.
THAT'S WHAT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
IT'S LIKE WE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT AS FORMAL AS THAT.
BUT NOW COULD YOU FOLLOW UP WITH JOE ON THAT FOR ME? YES, I WILL.
UM, WHEN SARAH WAS HERE, SHE DID DO INITIATIVE WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR SUSTAINABILITY INFORMATION THAT WE DID WORK WITH A COMPANY, UM, ABOUT, UM, RECYCLING BAGS INTO PARK BENCHES.
SO WE COLLECTED PROBABLY FOR SIX OR SO MONTHS AT BOTH THIS TOWNSHIP BUILDING AND OUR COMMUNITY CENTER, THESE HUGE BOXES THAT YOU WOULD PUT YOUR BAGS IN SIMILAR TO LIKE GIANT WHEN YOU GO THERE AND YOU CAN TAKE ALL YOUR BAGS AND SHOVE 'EM IN THE BOXES WHEN YOU GET RECYCLED.
AND WHEN YOU BROUGHT IN SO MANY BAGS, YOU WOULD GET ONE OF OUR REUSABLE BAGS THAT WE GIVE OUT, LIKE FALL FEST AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE DID HAVE THAT GOING A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
I STILL HAVE A TON OF BAGS IN THE BASEMENT THAT PEOPLE BROUGHT IN AFTER WE ENDED IT.
WE HAD GOTTEN SOME ON A BENCH SOMEWHERE AND, YOU KNOW, THAT ALL WENT DOWN AND PEOPLE STILL BROUGHT THEM IN.
SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING WHEN THIS GETS PUT IN PLACE, LIKE IF THE BOARD APPROVES THIS AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL I'M, I DO ALL THESE BAGS, WE CAN START SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN TOO, IF YOU'D LIKE.
I CAN GET THAT INFORM INFORMATION.
I I JUST THINK IT'S A MAJOR ISSUE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
JUST, YOU KNOW, AND, AND MY OWN WIFE HATES MY GUTS ABOUT IT.
BUT, BUT IT, I I JUST DON'T, I SEE 'EM EVERYWHERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I JUST NOTICE THINGS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BUT I SEE 'EM EVERYWHERE AND TREES, BUSHES AND, AND ALL OVER THE PLACE.
ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S, HERE'S OUR, HERE'S OUR PLAN OF ACTION.
THEN WE WILL TRY TO GET EVERYBODY, TRY TO GET AGE WAYS LINED UP BY MAY.
SEE HOW MANY WE GET BY THE FIRST OR THE SECOND WEEK OF MAY.
'CAUSE OUR MEETING WOULDN'T BE TILL THE FOURTH.
WE'LL DO IT THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF MAY.
UM, WE'LL SORT OF SEE HOW WE ARE AND OVER EMAIL.
WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE, IF WE THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH, IF WE WANNA JUST POSTPONE IT TILL AFTER THE SUMMER AND TRY AGAIN.
AND IF WE POSTPONE IT, WE HAVE PLASTICS AND GRASS ORDINANCES TO REVIEW IN MAY, BUT THAT'S OUR NEXT MEETING.
MAY WELL THAT'S OUR NEXT MEETING.
OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE IN MAY.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THE HOA MEETING, WE'LL DO PLASTICS AND WE'LL DO THE GRASS ORDINANCES.
IF WE DO HAVE THE HOA MEETING IN MAY, WE'LL DO THE PLASTICS AND GRASS ORDINANCE IN JULY.
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NOW, WELL WE, BUT IT'S ALL PREDICATED ON JOKES SAYING EIGHT.HE'S GONNA GIVE US SOMETHING THAT'S LEGAL.
NOW IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE WANNA TWEAK, WE CAN TWEAK THAT.
BUT WE JUST NEED JOE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT.
SO IN THE PLASTIC ORDINANCE YEAH.
YOU SENT THAT AROUND AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO MAYBE LOOK THAT, AND I KNOW YOU'VE SENT SOME GRASS.
I SENT ONE, I THINK IT WAS EAST COVENTRY.
I, I LOOKED AT A LOT OF 'EM, BUT I THINK EAST COVENTRY'S TO ME WAS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE.
I'LL, I DON'T, I'LL SEND THAT.
I'VE GOT EVERYBODY'S EMAIL HERE NOW, SO I'LL SEND THAT OUT IF YOU GUYS WANNA YES, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ONE.
BUT YEAH, WE NEED TO DRAFT OUR OWN FOR REVIEW.
JOE, I MEAN WE WILL PUT WHAT WE WANT TO, BUT THEN JOE WILL GIVE IT THE FINAL LEGAL TEST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT YEAH.
WE CAN TWEAK IT AFTER JOE SAYS, YEAH, THIS IS A GOOD DOCUMENT, RIGHT.
THEN WE CAN SAY, AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT AT LEAST ONE SUPERVISOR'S MEETING.
AND I KNOW WITH THE PLASTIC THING IT WAS, THERE WAS, THERE WAS ENOUGH DISCUSSION THAT IT APPEARED THAT IT MIGHT BE VAGUE.
AND I THINK TOM GER MIGHT HAVE PUSHED BACK AND SAID, HEY, WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT HE DIDN'T.
SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THEN IT BECAME TABLED.
AND THEN SAME THEN AT THE GRASS ORDINANCE ONE, UH, THERE WAS A, A LADY HERE WHO WAS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
BUT I THINK TO JEFF'S POINT, WE NEED TO HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WE CAN, AND THEN WE CAN SIT IN FRONT OF TOM AND THE OTHERS AND SAY, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN.
WE UNDERSTAND IT MAY BE NOT THE MOST POPULAR PLAN FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT HERE'S WHY IT MAKES SENSE.
DRIVE, DRIVE A BACK ROAD IN THIS COMMUNITY OR ANY, WELL, EVEN AT THE BOARD MEETING ON MONDAY, THEY WERE SAYING, I MEAN HELENE WAS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WISH THAT THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF CORRECTIONS, DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS DONE UP ALL THE TIME WAS STILL DOING DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
USED TO HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT AND, AND THEIR, THEIR GUESTS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, UM, THEY WOULD COME OUT AND THEY WOULD WORK.
THEY STOPPED DOING, THEY STOPPED DOING IT DURING COVID AND THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK TO IT.
OR IF THEY HAD GOTTEN BACK TO IT, IT'S, IT'S ONLY IN CERTAIN AREAS IT'S MINIMAL.
I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD PROGRAM TOO.
WHY'D THAT STOP? PROBABLY SOMEBODY SUED AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMEONE GOT HIT.
GOOD TO SEE THAT ALL THE TIME.
THAT'S OUR PLAN FOR THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS.
AND THEN WELL, THE OTHER THING TO ADD TO THAT, JEFF, IS I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE US AS A BOARD BE MORE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE.
YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GONNA SAY.
DIFFERENT, THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. I SEND OUT MY LIST OF EVENTS, INCLUDING THE CAR SHOW.
I'LL BE THERE, I'LL SIT THERE ALL DAY.
YOU'RE GONNA JUDGE AND RUN A TABLE AT THE SAME TIME.
WELL, I, HEY, I, I'M VERY VERSATILE.
EVEN IF WE JUST, EVEN IF WE JUST HAVE A FATHER'S SAKE, EVEN IF WE JUST HAVE A TABLE AT SOME OF THESE THINGS, SOME INFORMATION ON IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND THERE.
BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, SO I DON'T WANT TO GET, I DON'T WANT TO GET ANYBODY ASKING QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
LIKE, WHAT'S A PEA? WE'LL HAVE A, WE'LL HAVE A GAS PUMP WITH A BIG RED CIRCLE WITH THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA GET THEM IN ROBOTS.