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SINCE THIS IS THE REORG MEETING, I WAS GONNA, UH, GAVEL US IN AND TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
AND, UM, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO WHOEVER THE CHAIRMAN IS.
AND THAT'S UP TO, I THINK KEN'S YOU'RE WILLING TO, THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS, SO, SO I'M WILLING TO DO IT AGAIN.
I'M WILLING TO DO, TO SERVE AS CHAIR ANOTHER YEAR IF, UH, IF THE REST OF THE BOARD WANTS ME TO.
[CALL TO ORDER]
THE ORGANIZATION MEETING OF THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY TOGETHER.UM, UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE DO ELECTION OF OFFICERS, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS AND, UM, JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
HI, I'M DEBBIE CORNELSON, UM, PUBLIC WORKS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
TIM TEPERMAN, TOWNSHIP MANAGER, UH, SECRETARY TOM BROAD BELT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR GEORGE F, PUBLIC WORKS, SEWER FOREMAN.
JEN AL FROM GILMORE ASSOCIATES.
MICHAEL COYNE, GILMORE ASSOCIATES.
JOHN MCWIGGIN, BOARD MEMBER JEN HUGHES.
JAMIE PARKER, CONCERNED CITIZEN
[1. Chair]
I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION FOR NOMINATION OF CHAIR.I'D LIKE TO MOVE KEN HUGHES FOR CHAIR.
[2. Vice Chair]
TO TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR IF WE COULD GOT THE CHOICE BETWEEN THE TWO NEW ONES, SO, OR BILL CASPERANYBODY WANNA BE VICE CHAIR? I'LL DO IT.
I'LL NOMINATE, UH, JOHN WIGGIN FOR VICE CHAIR.
I'M GONNA TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, WITH THAT, BEFORE WE GO ON AND APPROVE THE AGENDA, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, WELCOME OUR NEW MEMBERS TO THE MINNESOTA AUTHORITY AND, UM, ASK IF YOU, EITHER ONE OF YOU WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING BY WORD OF INTRODUCTION OR ANYTHING ABOUT YOURSELF, YOUR BACKGROUND.
DON'T FEEL YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU PREFER NOT TO.
JAMIE, YOU WANNA GO BACK? UM, SURE.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT, SO I'M TAKING IT ALL IN.
I'M A MARKETING MANAGER BY DAY, ZUMBA INSTRUCTOR BY NIGHT AND WEEKENDS.
AND, UM, YEAH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO LEARNING ALL ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND GETTING MORE INVOLVED.
UH, JOHN MCGUIGAN, UH, MOVED INTO, UH, THE TOWNSHIP IN 2013.
UH, FATHER OF THREE, UH, ONE AT SPRING FORWARD, ONE AT COLLEGE, AND ONE IN DENVER.
UH,
UH, REDESIGNED THE SEWER, SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT THERE, SET UP THE AUTHORITY.
UH, WE TRANSFERRED THE, THE PLANT TO THE AUTHORITY AT THAT TIME, UH, AND WAS FORMER COUNCIL PRESIDENT IN OURS TOWN.
DO YOU KNOW CRANDALL JONES? NO.
HE'S OUR, HE'S THE BOROUGH MANAGER.
HE LIVES IN LIVES IN THE TOWN.
DIDN'T MEAN TO EMBARRASS HIM, BUT HE'S A, HE'S A RESIDENT.
[APPROVE AGENDA]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.[00:05:01]
OKAY WITH THE AGENDA? YEAH.[3. Approve March 2, 2023 Meeting Minutes]
ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS MARCH 2ND, 2023.[4. Update from Authority Engineer on stormwater mapping projects and MS4 compliance activities]
UH, ACTION DISCUSSION ITEMS, UH, UPDATE FROM THE AUTHORITY ENGINEER ON STORMWATER MAPPING AND MS FOUR COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES.YOU HAVE A PAPER CLIPPED PACKET WITH THIS ON TOP WITH THE HIGHLIGHTED TEXT.
SO THERE'S SO MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD HAVE FOR THIS.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA READ IT TO YOU.
THE TOWNSHIP HAS AN MPDS PERMIT TO DISCHARGE STORMWATER.
UM, THERE'S OUTFALLS THAT WE MAP.
I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE, UM, FIRST EIGHT 11 BY 17 EXHIBIT THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
THIS IS A MAP OF THE TOWNSHIP, AND THERE ARE THREE, UH, WATERSHEDS IN THE TOWNSHIP, SCHOOLHOUSE RUN, DONNYBROOK AND DOUGH RUN.
THESE ALL HAVE POLLUTANT REDUCTION REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THEM.
THAT'S JUST ONE CAVEAT OF THE MS FOUR PROGRAM.
UM, THE MS FOUR PERMIT IS A FIVE YEAR PERMIT.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A CYCLE, IT'S A FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
THE CURRENT CYCLE ENDS IN 2025, AND THE POLLUTION REDUCTION REQUIREMENT FOR THIS CYCLE IS BEING DONE BY WB HOMES, UM, WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT OUT ON, UH, GREENWOOD AVENUE.
THAT'S THE NEXT PACKET OF 11 BY SEVENTEENS THAT'S FOLDED THERE FOR YOU.
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL PERMIT PLANS FOR THEM.
IN CASE YOU WANTED TO SEE WHAT ENGINEERING PLANS FOR, UM, STREAM BANK RESTORATION LOOKS LIKE.
UM, WE MODIFIED THE POLLUTION REDUCTION PLAN PORTION OF THE PERMIT TO, TO DO THIS PROJECT.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED BY 2025.
THE DEVELOPER HAS STARTED BUILDING THEIR PROJECT OUT THERE AT 3 57 GREENWOOD, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING, DOING THE STREAM BANK RESTORATION FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
THAT'S GONNA GET YOU YOUR CREDITS FOR THIS FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
AND THEN IT'LL START AGAIN IN FIVE YEARS, UM, WITH THE NEXT RENEWAL.
AND WE'LL NEED TO DO ANOTHER POLLUTION REDUCTION ENTITY OF THAT.
UM, THE FIRST PACKET I GAVE YOU THAT JUST HAS THE HIGHLIGHTED TEXT, YOU CAN JUST REVIEW THAT.
THERE'S SIX STEPS THAT NEED TO BE DONE EVERY CYCLE.
ALSO FOR THE MS FOUR, IT'S A SUMMARY OF WHAT THEY ARE, AND THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED TEXT TELLS YOU WHAT THE TOWNSHIP DOES TO ADDRESS THOSE PORTIONS OF THE PERMIT.
AND THE MS FOUR IS WHAT LEADS US INTO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE LAST HANDOUT ATTACHED TO YOUR PACKET.
THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WHERE THE STORM WATER FEE, HOW IT WAS CALCULATED, WHERE IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
UM, THERE'S SOME DECISIONS THAT CAN STILL BE MADE.
THERE'S SOME ALTERATIONS THAT CAN HAPPEN.
UM, SUPER BROAD EXPLANATION OF HOW, UH, STORMWATER FEE IS CALCULATED.
THE TOWNSHIP DECIDES WHAT THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR WATER IMPROVEMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE.
IN THIS CASE, A MILLION DOLLARS WAS USED.
THEN MAPPING IS USED TO DETERMINE THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE AS EXISTS IN THE TOWNSHIP.
NOW, THAT WAS ALL DIVIDED OUT, UM, TO ESTABLISH AN ERU, WHICH IS AN EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
PROPERTIES CAN HAVE ONE UNIT, HALF UNIT.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT BILLING TIERS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED, UM, BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, IT'S ROUNDED, UM, FOR SOME ROUGH FIGURES FOR THE ACTUAL BILLING.
WE SPOKE WITH DAIRY TOWNSHIP AND BETHLEHEM TOWNSHIP.
THEY BOTH HAVE FEES IMPLEMENTED CURRENTLY AS FAR AS WHAT THEY DO FOR COLLECTION OF THE FEES.
IF PROPERTY OWNERS CAN GET A CREDIT FOR STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY MIGHT DO ON THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, NOT TO REDUCE THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, BUT TO COMPENSATE FOR THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ON THEIR SITE BEFORE IT GETS INTO THE SYSTEM, THUS REDUCING THEIR FEE.
UM, THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION, TIM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE VERY SPECIFIC YOU'D LIKE ME TO TALK ABOUT? I JUST THINK FOR, JUST TO MAYBE START AT THE ELEMENTARY STAGE, WHAT MS. WHAT MS FOUR IS, IT'S, I THINK IT'S A MANDATE THAT CAME FROM THE EPA AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, INCUMBENT UPON THE DEP TO ENFORCE IT.
I JUST THINK, AND WE'RE UNDER OUR FIVE YEAR, UH, PLAN WHERE WE HAVE TO DO SO MANY IMPROVEMENTS.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS AND SOME OF,
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SOME, A LOT OF PAPER STUFF, BUT NOW, CORRECT.BUT VERY SOON WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING INTO HARDCORE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE.
TIM, I'LL LEAVE YOU A COPY OF WHAT I HANDED EVERYBODY TONIGHT.
BUT YES, THE EDUCATION AND THE OUTREACH, THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT'S LISTED IN HERE.
AND AGAIN, THOSE DO HAPPEN EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND, UM, MPDS STANDS FOR WHAT? JUST TRYING TO HELP ON HELP ON THE ALPHABET SOUP FOR THEIR BENEFIT.
DEFINE THE MPDS IS ALL DOWN IN HERE, SO.
UH, JEN, I KNOW ON, IN, IN PAST YEARS THAT EDUCATION HAS BEEN A FOCUS.
UM, I THINK THIS PROJECT ON, ON GREENWOOD AVENUE, THIS IS THE FIRST ACTUAL HARD PROJECT THAT THE TOWNSHIP HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN, ISN'T IT? OR THAT'S HAPPENED HERE.
THIS IS SPECIFIC FOR THE POLLUTION REDUCTION RIGHT PLAN REQUIREMENT? YES.
UM, ANTICIPATED WHEN THIS FIVE YEAR CYCLE WAS APPLIED FOR, UM, THE TOWNSHIP WAS GONNA USE FUNDS TO MODIFY A GSK BASIN AND PUT PLANTINGS IN THERE.
BUT WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN WB HOMES CAME IN ON GREENWOOD BECAUSE THE TOWNSHIP HAS THE RIGHTS TO THE STREAM ACROSS THE STREET, IT WAS TRADED.
SO THAT GSK IMPROVEMENT IS ALWAYS IN YOUR BACK POCKET FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
WE'LL SEE IF ANY OTHER DEVELOPERS COME IN TO HAVE A STREAM ON THEIR PROPERTY IN THE MEANTIME.
[5. Update on Appeal of Commonwealth Court decision regarding the legality of a stormwater fee]
I KNOW THAT JOE IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT IS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION YOU HAVE ABOUT THE LEGAL STATUS OF JOE BRESIN? OUR AUTHORITY, UM, ATTORNEY HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY, BUT I DID ASK HIM TO DO, GIVE ME SOME TALKING POINTS.SO HE, IN YOUR PASSED OUT WAS A LETTER FROM HIM, AND I ASKED HIM TO KIND OF GIVE A HISTORY OF, UH, OF BRINGING US UP TO SPEED ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RECONSTITUTION OF THE AUTHORITY TO DO MORE STORM WATER, UM, ADVISORY.
AND I WANTED HIM TO GO IN A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL.
YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE WEREN'T MEETING THAT MUCH MM-HMM.
WE WERE ALL GOING FULL STEAM, I THINK, ON GETTING READY TO IMPLEMENT A STORMWATER FEE.
BUT THEN, UM, AND THE SECOND CLASS TOWNSHIP CODE WAS PRETTY CLEAR, UM, THAT, UH, SECOND CLASS TOWNSHIPS COULD DO THE FEE.
UM, WESTCHESTER BOROUGH, UH, UM, WAS SUED BY WESTCHESTER UNIVERSITY, UM, ALLEGING THAT, UM, THAT, THAT THIS FEE IS IN, IN ESSENCE TAX.
AND, UM, AND THEY WERE F IT WAS FOUND IN THEIR FAVOR AT, AT THE COURT, AT COMMONWEALTH COURT.
AND I THINK IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING APPEALED TO THE SUPREME COURT.
I, I, AND I ASKED JOE TO JUST KIND OF GIVE AN IDEA WHERE, WHERE THAT STANDS.
AND THAT KIND OF PUT A, KIND OF STOPPED US COAL IN OUR TRACKS BECAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING DOWN THE, UM, THE, THE FEE ROUTE.
AND I THINK WE HAD SOME PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSIONS ON WHETHER, IF WE WANTED TO MAKE THIS A FEE OR A TAX, BUT IF YOU MADE IT A TAX, THEN BASICALLY, UM, YOU WOULD BE EXEMPTING NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS WHO THEMSELVES HAVE, UM, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
SO THERE WAS A, THERE'S A QUESTION OF FAIRNESS AND, AND WHETHER WE SHOULD KEEP IT AS A, AS A, AS A, UM, AS A FEAR OR TAX.
SO I THINK GIVEN THAT WE, WE WE'RE KIND OF TAKING A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH AND WHERE THAT, WHERE THIS STANDS, THAT'S WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN MEETING MUCH
UM, WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT THIS, UH, THE WHOLE FEE VERSUS TAX TYPE OF APPROACH IN THE, IN THE FUTURE.
UM, UM, THERE'S PROS AND CONS.
I, I THINK A TAX IS CERTAINLY EASIER TO COLLECT THAN, THAN A FEE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET INTO THE COMPLEXITIES OF TRYING TO ESTABLISH CREDITS, UM, FOR CERTAIN HOMEOWNERS, UM, THAT CAN GET KIND OF ONEROUS.
BUT, UM, THERE'S PROS AND CONS, PROS AND CONS TO BOTH.
BUT, UM, BUT, UM, WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO, I KNOW THAT I PASSED THIS OUT TONIGHT.
THIS IS KIND OF A, AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THE WHOLE LEGAL HISTORY AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF THE AUTHORITY.
UM, KEN, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND MANY, YOU WERE AROUND WHEN THE AUTHORITY ACTUALLY WAS DOING STUFF BACK IN THE, BACK IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES.
AND I THINK OUR, THE, THE AUTHORITIES' ARTICLES IN OF INCORPORATION, UM, KIND OF REVIVED THE AUTHORITY WHEN STORMWATER, UH, WAS BECOMING A BIG THING.
AND, UM, A LOT OF, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE GETTING FACED WITH A LOT OF UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT HAVE COSTS AND, AND, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE COSTS, YOU, YOU HAVE TO FIND SOME REVENUE SOURCE TO PAY FOR THOSE COSTS.
AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIND THE MOST EQUITABLE APPROACH TO, TO ACHIEVE THAT.
AND I THINK WE MADE SOME PROGRESS.
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TOGETHER, AND I, I THINK WE HAD A FORMULA IN PLACE UNTIL THIS LAWSUIT CAME ON BOARD.SO, CAN I ASK A QUESTION AROUND THIS? YEP.
SO, IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING, I WAS READING THE PHOENIXVILLE PATCH AND I SAW AN ARTICLE COME THROUGH WHERE THERE WAS A $300,000 STATE GRANT AWARDED TO CHECO FOR PARK AND SEWAGE UPGRADES.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S A ROUTE THAT WE COULD GO, IS TO APPLY FOR GRANTS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME GRANTS, HAVEN'T WE? UM, I BELIEVE MIKE, YES.
ON, ON SOME THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE AND WE DO PURSUE ALL, ANY AND ALL GRANTS ON THAT.
MR. CHAIR, I HAVE COURSE ONE THING, JEN, WE MIGHT WANT, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON MS FOUR, BUT THE FEE WAS ACTUALLY DIRECTED NOT JUST, NOT ONLY TO MS FOUR PROJECTS, BUT ALSO, UM, THAT WE WERE LOOKING INTO SOME AREAS THAT WERE NON MS FOUR AREAS.
AM I CORRECT FOR, UH, FOR THAT? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER.
THE FEE WOULD COVER EVERY RESIDENT IN THE TOWNSHIP YEAH.
PROPORTIONATELY BASED ON NOT THE SIZE OF THEIR PROPERTY, BUT THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THEY HAVE ON THEIR PROPERTY.
NOT COMMON BASIC FOR THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE COVERAGE CASES.
THAT'S WHAT DETERMINED WOULD DETERMINE EVERYTHING.
FIRST, UH, WHAT WOULD THE, FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS, WHAT WOULD THAT FUND THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE YEAR? YOU CAN, TOM, YOU GO AHEAD.
IT WOULD FUND ANY PROJECTS SUCH AS, UH, REHABILITATION OF OUR EXISTING SYSTEM.
WE HAVE A LOT OF FAILING STORMWATER PIPE IN OUR, IN OUR SYSTEM.
UM, IT WAS GALVANIZED, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT BEFORE.
AND IT WAS PUT IN THE SEVENTIES, AND IT WOULD HELP US TO PAY TO REPLACE THAT WITH A CONCRETE PIPE THAT IT'LL BE GOOD FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.
SO THAT'S ONE THING WE, WE, UH, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO DO THAT ARE, CAN BE VERY EXPENSIVE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE, SO THIS, WOULD, THE FUNDS GENERATED FROM THIS FEE OR TAX WOULD DIRECTLY GO TOWARDS MITIGATING STORM WATER RUNOFF IN THE FUTURE IN THE TOWNSHIP? THAT'S CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE A STORM WATER FUND.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE FUNDS SET UP.
THERE'S NO MONEY
SO WE ARE TRYING TO TRACK WHAT THOSE STORMWATER PROJECTS ARE, BUT BY, BY LAW, YOU CAN'T USE THOSE FUNDS TO PURCHASE A, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
NOW YOU COULD USE IT FOR STORMWATER MITIGATION IN SOME OF OUR PARKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THE FEMA BUYOUTS, YOU KNOW, FROM WHEN WE HAD THE HURRICANE IDA.
THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF QUASI PARK KIND OF STORM WATER THAT ARE KIND OF RELATED THAT COULD GO INTO THAT, THAT AREA.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION LATELY WITH CLIMATE CHANGE IN PENNSYLVANIA, WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE INTENSE RAINFALL.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL TAKE THAT ONE.
SO MPDS, WHICH IS COVERING YOUR MS FOUR CONSTRUCTION SITES, NEED TO GET THAT TOO.
THEY FALL UNDER THE MPDS PERMIT PROCESS, BUT IT'S A CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES RELATED VERSUS THE OUTFALLS THAT THE TOWNSHIP DEALS WITH.
UM, THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT CHANGING.
UM, THEY'RE BASED ON THE STORM INTENSITIES THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOREVER.
UM, KIND OF OVERLAPPING THAT, BUT A LITTLE BIT SEPARATE.
YOU ADOPTED ORDINANCE 5 88 LAST YEAR, WHICH ACTUALLY CITES THE NOAA RAINFALL INTENSITIES.
THOSE ARE MORE RECENT AND THOSE FLUCTUATE.
SO AS DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN, WE'RE HAVING THEM USE THOSE INTENSITIES.
ON A SMALL SCALE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HIGHER INTENSITIES AS THEY UPDATE OVER TIME BECAUSE THEY PULL THE CURRENT NOAA RAINFALL DATA.
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WHENEVER WE SAY IT MEETS THE RENTAL REQUIREMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, QUANTITATIVE ITEMS, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE, OKAY, THE THRESHOLD IS SET HERE AND WE ARE CLEARING IT BY THIS.NOT, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I KNOW THIS IS SORT OF LIKE ON OFF, YOU KNOW, DID WE DO THIS? YES, WE DID THIS AND WE MEET THE, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO RAINFALL AND WATER CONTAINMENT, I'D BE REALLY INTERESTED IN SAYING, OKAY, THE THRESHOLD IS HERE AND WE'RE CLEARING IT BY 20% MORE OR 30% MORE SO THAT YOU ARE DOING, OKAY.
SO THE STATE PERMITS, THE FEDERAL PERMITS, YOU HAVE A STORM TO STORM REDUCTION.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE TWO YEAR POST-DEVELOPMENT STORM NEEDS TO GET REDUCED TO THE TWO YEAR PRE-DEVELOPMENT STORM.
IN THIS TOWNSHIP, THE 50 YEAR POST-DEVELOPMENT STORM ALREADY GETS REDUCED TO THE TWO YEAR PRE-DEVELOPMENT STORM.
SO THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS, YOU'RE ALREADY DOING A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THESE FEDERAL PERMITS ARE REQUIRING.
AND THEN JUST IN GENERAL, WHEN WE CONSIDER WHETHER IT'S A TAX OR A FEE, UH, AND I KNOW SOME OF THESE AMOUNTS ARE NOMINAL, BUT YOU KNOW, TAXES ARE, THERE'S A TAX IMPLICATION TO PAYING A TAX MM-HMM.
AN INTERESTING, AN INTERESTING STATISTIC IS SOMEBODY ASKED US HOW MANY NON-PROFIT, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF NON-PROFIT, NON-TAXABLE PARCELS IN THE TOWNSHIP? IT'S LESS THAN 1%.
THOSE IS A GOOD QUESTIONS AND SOME GOOD DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD.
UM, YOUR HOMEWORK, I GUESS IS TO TAKE ALL THIS HOME AND, UH, READ IT OVER, COME BACK WITH MORE QUESTIONS.
UH, WE WILL, WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO THE NEXT ITEM.
AND I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T REALIZE, TIM, WHEN I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT THERE, THAT WE KIND OF, I ASKED ABOUT, UH, THE APPEAL SITUATION WITH THE, WITH THE LEGAL STATUS.
SO JUST TRYING TO STRAIGHTLINE YOU WANNA ADD ANY MORE ABOUT THAT? YEAH.
UM, IF, IF YOU READ JOE'S LI I'M, I DON'T WANT TO, I THINK WE CAN PUT THIS IN THE RECORD FOR THE MINUTES, BUT UM, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT HIS THIRD PARAGRAPH, IT SAYS, UH, UM, HE TALKS ABOUT THE WEST CHESTER BOROUGH, UM, UM, SAYS THE COURT IN THE WESTCHESTER CASE CONCLUDED THAT THE MS FOUR STORMWATER ARE FOR EVERYONE JUST AS A ROADWAYS.
AND THERE'S NO SPECIAL BENEFIT TO ANY ONE PERSON.
THEY WERE QUESTIONING HOW THIS COULD BE, UM, CONSIDERED A VALID, UH, FEE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT WAS SPECIFIED IN THE STATE LEGISLATION.
UM, SO I THINK OUR, OUR PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION THROUGH PSATS, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATIONS, THE LIGA CITIES ARE DOING AN AMICUS BRIEF.
AND I THINK THIS SHOULD BE BE, PROBABLY WILL BE BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE, UM, SUPREME COURT SOMETIME, UH, THIS YEAR.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TIMING ON THAT IS.
IF BY CHANCE WE EVER, IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE MAY WANT THIS TO BE A TAX, WE COULD DO THIS AT ANY TIME.
WE'VE BEEN KI I THINK WE'VE, WE, AM I CORRECT, WE KIND OF WERE ON THAT PHILOSOPHICAL, UH, BANDWIDTH THAT IT WOULD BE A, UM, THAT IT WOULD BE A, UM, FEE.
AND I GUESS IF WE DID THE TAX APPROACH, WOULD THAT, THAT MAY AFFECT HOW WE DO OUR MAPPING.
'CAUSE 'CAUSE IT WOULD, YOU'D HAVE TO EXCLUDE NON, YOU WOULD HAVE TO EXCLUDE TAX EXEMPT PARTIALS THAT 1%.
I THINK THE UH, BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL FEELING OF THE TOWNSHIP.
I THINK CERTAINLY ON THE AUTHORITY.
AND I THINK THE MORE SUPERVISORS, WHEN THIS WAS DISCUSSED ON THE, OVER, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AS WELL AS UH, JOE RESIDENT'S THINKING IS THAT, IS THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO, TO GO WITH THE FEE.
SO WE WERE KIND OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE LEGAL YEAH.
FINAL LEGAL SITUATION OF THAT WAS.
BUT, BUT WE HAVE A NEW, SOME NEW AUTHORITY MEMBERS.
WE ALSO HAVE TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS ON THE SUPERVISORS.
THEY MAY HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.
SO, BUT IT'S MORE, IT'S KIND OF WHERE THE HISTORICAL HISTORY ON THIS UP UNTIL NOW.
I JUST LIKE GIVING, YOU KNOW, TREATING IT AS A TAX SO THAT THERE'S SOME TAX BENEFIT YEAH.
THAT'S 'CAUSE NONPROFITS DON'T PAY TAX DO THEY? OR THEY HAVE NO DEDUCTIONS.
[6. Project Status Reports: a. Tindey Run Sanitary Sewer Project b. Greenwood Avenue Sanitary Sewer Extension c. Township Line Road Sanitary Sewer Extension d. LPVRSA Middle Interceptor e. Keokuk Outfall Project f. Second Avenue Force Main Project]
WE WILL THEN MOVE ON TO THE PROJECT STATUS REPORTS AND JEN OR MIKE WHO'S GONNA COVER THAT, MIKE IS OKAY.THE TINDY RUNS SANITARY SEWER PROJECT FOR THE NEW MEMBERS
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WAS A LARGE PROJECT THE TOWNSHIP UNDERTOOK.IT WAS DONE OVER ON THE AREA OF OLD STATE ROAD FRUIT FARM ROAD, THE ROSEMONT DEVELOPMENT, THE MARSH WOOD DEVELOPMENT TO SERVE ALL THOSE HOUSES WITH PUBLIC SEWER AND INCLUDED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TENDY RUN PUMP STATION.
THE PROJECT STARTED BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS JANUARY, 2021.
THE GRAVITY SEWER PIPE PORTION OF IT WAS DONE IN OCTOBER OF 22.
AND THE PUMP STATION WENT ONLINE EARLY 23 WASN'T IT THIS YEAR? YEP.
I THINK THERE'S MINIMUM ABOUT THE HOUSE IS CONNECTED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT HOW MANY WE HAVE.
UH, WE HAVE EIGHT HOUSES CONNECTED AT THIS POINT.
WE HAVE SEVEN CONNECTIONS ARE PAID FOR BUT NOT CONNECTED YET AT THIS POINT.
AND I WOULD THINK THIS SPRING, SINCE THE DUST IS ALL SETTLED, I THINK WE'LL HAVE MORE COMING IN.
SO THAT PROJECT IS BASICALLY COMPLETE IT EXCEPT WE NEED TO CLOSE OUT OUR NPDS PERMIT.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE GRASS GROWING AT THE PUMP STATION SITE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S STOPPING THAT.
SO THE CONTRACTOR'S BEEN ON NOTICE THAT EARLY SPRING, GET OUT THERE SEED THAT SO IT GROWS SO WE CAN HAVE IT SIGNED OFF AND BE DONE WITH THE PROJECT.
WE DO HAVE AN ARBITRATION ISSUE WITH OUR ONE CONTRACTOR THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.
SO, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE PROJECT'S DONE.
IT'S BEEN IN SERVICE AND EVERYTHING'S GOING FINE.
THE GREENWOOD AVENUE, THE, THE UM, GENERATOR WAS FOUND
I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY FUNNY.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE GENERATOR WAS FOUND AND GOT PUT, GOT INSTALLED BUT IT WAS MISSING FOR A WHILE.
ONE OTHER QUESTION, UM, ON UM, TEND TO RUN, UH, IT'S NICE TO HEAR THAT SOME HAVE CONNECTED AND THERE'S MORE THAT ARE COMING ONLINE.
HOW MANY TOTAL CONNECTION POTENTIALS ARE THERE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, 147.
OKAY, THE NEXT ONE IS GREENWOOD AVENUE.
THAT'S A SANITARY SEWER PROJECT THAT WE STARTED IN 2022 TO SERVE 10 HOUSES ALONG THE PORTION OF GREENWOOD AVENUE FROM COLLEGE AVENUE OUT TO MAIN STREET.
WE PUT THE PROJECT ON HOLD BECAUSE WE HAVE APPLIED FOR A GRANT, A SMALL WATER AND SEWER GRANT TO COVER THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF THAT PROJECT.
AND LATE LAST YEAR, I GUESS IT WAS THE LAST RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT WE HAD RECEIVED THE GRANT.
HOWEVER, WE'RE NOW WAITING FOR THEM TO SEND US THE GRANT DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO INCORPORATE INTO THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS FOR BIDDING PURPOSES.
ONCE WE GET THAT INFORMATION, WE'LL GO OUT TO BID.
WE WERE HOPING THAT IT'D HAVE THAT JOB UNDER CONSTRUCTION EARLY SPRING AND BE DONE BY THE END OF THE SUMMER.
'CAUSE IT'S ONLY LIKE 800 FEET OF PIPE THAT'S GETTING PUT IN.
BUT WE'RE JUST WAITING ON PERMIT DOCUMENTS OR NOT PER GRANT DOCUMENTS SO THAT WE CAN DO IT.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE GRANT.
'CAUSE ANY WORK THAT'S DONE BEFORE THE GRANT IS FINALLY ISSUED DOES NOT COUNT.
SO IT'S BASICALLY TO COVER THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THIS PROJECT.
TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION IS ANOTHER SMALL EXTENSION UP BEHIND THE HARLEYSVILLE BANK AT THE INTERSECTION OF TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD AND RIDGE PIKE.
THERE'S FIVE HOUSES BACK THERE THAT WE WANT TO SERVE.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET EASEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN SERVE THEM.
SO ONCE WE GET THE EASEMENTS AGAIN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO CONSTRUCTION OUT FORBIDS.
BUT WE'LL WORK JOE, JOE AND THE TOWNSHIP ARE WORKING ON GETTING THE EASEMENTS FOR THAT PROJECT.
LAST I KNEW THERE WAS STILL UH, ONE HOLDOUT I THINK, WASN'T IT 1818 TOWNSHIP LINE.
BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE.
THE L-P-V-S-A MIDDLE INTERCEPTOR, THAT'S NOT REALLY A TOWNSHIP PROJECT, IT JUST GOES THROUGH THE TOWNSHIP.
IT WAS DONE BY THE REGIONAL SEWER AUTHORITY.
IT WAS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING INTERCEPTOR FROM THE CONFLUENCE OF THE SKIP BACK CREEK AND PER PROCUREMENT CREEK UP TO THE COLLEGE HOLE INN.
IT HAS BEEN, IT'S BEEN COMPLETE FOR A WHILE.
THE SEWER'S BEEN FLOWING THROUGH THAT.
THE ONLY THING HOLDING THAT TO BE TOTALLY COMPLETE IS AGAIN GONNA NEED AN NPDS PERMIT FOR GRASS TO GROW.
SO THE AUTHORITIES JUST WAITING ON THAT.
IS IT ACTUALLY HAVE TO GROW OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE THERE? IT HAS TO BE 70% STABILIZED.
BECAUSE I WAS THINKING OF SODDING UNIFORM STABILIZED.
THAT'D BE A LOT OF MONEY TO SOD THAT THING.
IT'S 17,000 FEET ALONG THE CREEK
SO THERE'S JUST A COUPLE AREAS THAT HAVEN'T STABILIZED AND THEY HAVE THE CONSERVATION ISSUE.
WALKED IT LAST YEAR AND THEY POINTED OUT THOSE AREAS.
SO THE CONTRACTOR'S TRYING TO GET 'EM TO GROW AND THE CONTRACTOR WAS GONNA COME OUT AND LOOK AT IT RIGHT BEFORE IT SNOWED.
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NOT GONNA HAPPEN UNTIL SPRING.MIKE, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE EAGLES? OH.
AND THAT PROJECT WAS HELD UP BECAUSE OF AN EAGLE.
WE HAVE AN EAGLE THAT NESTS IN THE TREE DOWN THERE AT CIDER MILL ROAD RIGHT BY THE BIKE TRAIL.
SO WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK IN A CERTAIN AREA THERE BETWEEN THE MONTHS OF WHAT WAS JANUARY 1ST TO JULY 31ST.
SO THEN WE GOT A PERMIT TO DO SO, BUT WE HAD TO BE MONITORED THE WHOLE TIME.
AND IF WE AGITATED THE EAGLE, WHICH THIS EXPERT KNEW, IF WE WERE AGITATED, WE HAD TO STOP
THE EAGLE MOVED IN AFTER CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT'S THAT? THE EAGLE MOVED IN.
THE EAGLE MOVED IN AFTER CONSTRUCTION.
SO HE BUILT HIS NEST WHILE WE WERE CUTTING TREES DOWN AND HE WAS USING THE WOOD.
WE WERE CUTTING UP TO BUILD TO MAKE A NEST.
THE EAGLE RULES, LIKE THE TOWNSHIP HAS A SMALL STORMWATER PROJECT DOWN THERE TO REPLACE A PIPE ON CIDER MILL ROAD AND TO INSTALL A NEW PIPE ALONG CIDER MILL ROAD IN THAT AREA TO ELIMINATE A PONDING AND ICING PROBLEM.
BUT WE CAN'T, WE HAVE THE PROJECT, WE'RE WAITING ON AN EASEMENT THERE, BUT WE CAN'T START IT TILL AUGUST 1ST.
'CAUSE WE GOTTA STAY OUTTA EAGLES ZONE 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO AGGRAVATE MR. EAGLE.
HE CONTROLS EVERYTHING DOWN THERE.
TELL HIM IF HE BRINGS US A WIN, WE'LL LET HIM STAY THERE.
SO THE KEOKUK OUTFALL PROJECT, THAT'S A EXISTING PIPE UNDERNEATH KEOKUK ROAD RIGHT AFTER YOU COME OFF THE SOUTH LEWIS ROAD HANGING INTO THE MING OF DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S A LARGE CULVERT IN WHICH THE END WALL IS FALLING APART.
IT'S CRACKED, IT'S UNDERMINED.
SO WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE THAT END WALL.
AND AS PART OF THAT BEING THE HEAD WALL, IT BEING SO CLOSE TO THE SEWER LINE, THE EXISTING LINE THERE, WE HAVE TO RELOCATE THE SEWER LINE 10 FEET AWAY FOR ABOUT A HUNDRED FOOT SECTION.
BUT THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR AN EASEMENT THERE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO RELOCATE THE SEWER.
AND THEN WE WOULD BE READY TO GO OUT THE BID ON THAT ONE ALSO.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE SECOND AVENUE FORCE MAIN PROJECT.
THAT'S A PROJECT THAT IS BEING DESIGNED THIS YEAR BY GILMORE.
IT'S TO REPLACE THE EXISTING FORCE MAIN FROM THE BIGGEST PUMP STATION IN THE TOWNSHIP DOWN ON SECOND AVENUE BY SPRINGER TOWN ROAD.
THAT FOUR CEMENT, I THINK WAS PUT IN IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES.
IT'S HOW MANY 60, 60 YEARS OLD.
SO WE ALREADY HAD A CONTRACTOR DRIVE A GUIDE RAIL POST THROUGH IT ONE NIGHT, WHICH WAS MADE IT REAL INTERESTING FOR US.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT FORCE MAIN OUTING THE SECOND AVENUE.
SO WE KNOW WHERE IT IS EASIER TO FIND.
AND THIS ALSO IS GONNA INCLUDE REPLACING THE GRAVITY SECTION THAT STARTS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL BY HAFNER ROAD AND GOES DOWN TO THE LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE COUNTY PROPERTY DOWN TO THE SCHULL INTERCEPTOR.
BUT THAT IS BEING DESIGNED THIS YEAR AND PROPOSED FOR CONSTRUCTION IN 2025.
DID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT SECOND AVENUE? THANK YOU MIKE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? I HAVE A QUESTION BACK ABOUT THE TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD OR I'M SORRY, LET ME YEAH.
WHAT HAPPENS IF 18 TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD JUST DOESN'T WANT TO CONNECT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS THE OPTION TO AUTHORIZE JOE TO GO AFTER IT BY EMINENT DOMAIN DONE THAT AND FORCE THEM TO CONNECT TO THIS ORDER? WELL THEN WE WON'T FORCE, WELL FORCE THE EASEMENT.
IT'D HAVE TO BE PAID FOR MARKET VALUE.
TRADITIONALLY, THE TOWNSHIP HAS NOT, UH, WHEN THERE'S NEW SEWERS AVAILABLE, THE TOWNSHIP HASN'T REQUIRED THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO, TO UH, CONNECT IF UNLESS THEY WANT TO.
WE'RE VERY UNUSUAL IN THAT VERY MOST TOWNS DO GET PART YES, VERY.
BUT ALSO IN THAT DEP IS STARTING TO LEAN TOWARDS, THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU MAKE PEOPLE CONNECT FOR SOME REASON.
UNLESS YOUR SYSTEM, UNLESS YOUR SYSTEM FAIL FROM THE COUNTY SAYING A SYSTEM IS FAILED, WE NEED TO HOOK UP.
SO WHY DID WE, IF DID THE RESIDENTS, SOME RESIDENTS WANT THAT, LIKE WHY DID WE START THE PROJECT? WE HAVE TWO THAT WOULD PROBABLY CONNECT OUT OF THOSE FIVE RIGHT AWAY.
UM, PART OF OUR PLAN IS TO TRY TO GET SEWER TO EVERYONE IN THE TOWNSHIP.
SO IT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM IN THE FUTURE.
I SAY IT'S PROBABLY AROUND, UH, 80%.
MIKE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S
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NOT A LOT OF THIS TOWNSHIP THAT'S NOT, THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT'LL PROBABLY NEVER BE SERVED.THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT WE CAN'T GET TO, LIKE THE, LIKE THE PEOPLE OVER ON WARTMAN ROAD BY THE JEHOVAS FARM THAT'S PRESERVED.
THERE'S FOUR RESIDENTS THERE THAT WENT TO CONNECT AND THERE'S JUST NO WAY WE CAN GET A SEWER LINE TO THEM.
SO THEY TRIED TO GET A CONNECTION TO PERFUME AND TOWNSHIP ACROSS THE STREET.
AND I DON'T THINK PERFUME AND TOWNSHIP WENT FOR THAT.
IT, BUT THERE'S LIKE, THERE'S SPOTS LIKE THAT AROUND THAT YOU JUST, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET A SEWER TO 'EM.
I MEAN, ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLY TO GET IT.
THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY TO GET IT THERE.
DEPENDS HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANNA SPEND TO DO IT.
I KNOW IN THE PAST, UM, THE, THE AUTHORITY HAS HAD, UH, MAPS THAT SHOWED WHERE THE SEWERS WERE AND WHAT WAS CONNECTED AND WHAT WASN'T.
IT MIGHT MIGHT BE INTERESTING FOR THE NEW, FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS ESPECIALLY TO, TO SEE THAT.
SO MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, AT A FUTURE MEETING WE CAN GET THAT OR EVEN COPIES OF IT FOR THE A MEMBER, FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS.
ALSO COMMENT TO TOM, BOTH OF YOU, UH, JOHN AND JAMIE MAY BE INTERESTED IN GETTING A TOUR OF THE REGIONAL FACILITY THAT'S SURE.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN A SEW TREATMENT PLANT AND
I THINK WE JUST HANDLED THE COLLECTION SYSTEM.
THE REGIONAL AUTHORITY HANDLED BECAUSE HOW MANY MUNICIPALITIES? IS IT SIX, FIVE OR SIX AND SIX? IT'S SKIP BACK, COLLEGEVILLE TRAP, UPPER PROVIDENCE, LOWER PROVIDENCE AND PERFUME AND TOWNSHIP.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? ANY OTHER BUSINESS?
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I KNOW GEORGE SAID HIS NAME.I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE GEORGE VOW.
HE'S BEEN WITH THE TOWNSHIP SINCE 2003.
UM, HE'S OUR, OUR NEW COLLECTION SYSTEM FOREMAN.
UM, GEORGE'S VAST KNOWLEDGE OF THE COLLECTION SYSTEM IS ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE.
I MEAN, HE IS LIKE AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF THIS SYSTEM AND UH, HE'S A HUGE ASSET TO THE TOWNSHIP.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT HE'S ON WITH THIS NOW.
ONE MORE PLUG IS THAT OUR, I AND I IS ONE OF THE BEST YES.
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE VERY DILIGENT AT TAKING CARE OF OUR SYSTEM.
UH, WE DO A LOT OF, I AND I WORK, I WOULD SAY WE HAVE THE TIGHTEST SYSTEM OUT OF THE SIXTH.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH INFILTRATION.
AND WITH THAT IT COMES TO PRICE.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER MAINTENANCE THING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE DO EVERY YEAR.
AND THAT INCLUDES TV WORK, TV, VIDEO, PIPELINING, UM, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
THIS TOWNSHIP IS DEFINITELY ON TOP OF THAT.
OUT OF THE SIX MUNICIPALITIES THAT MAKE UP THE REGIONAL AUTHORITY, UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP PROBABLY DOES THE MOST TO ELIMINATE I AND I OUTTA THEIR SYSTEM.
AND THEN JEN JUST REMINDED ME THAT THERE'S A PRIVATE PUMP STATION THAT WILL BE BEING BUILT BY A DEVELOPER.
IT'S BEING DESIGNED BY GILMORE FOR THE TOWNSHIP, BUT A DEVELOPER'S GONNA BUILD IT WHEN THE KLEIN ROAD DEVELOPMENT AT 180 3 KLEIN ROAD COMES IN AND THAT PUMP STATION'S GOING TO BE ON THE TAYLOR PARK FARM.
THERE'S GONNA BE A PUMP STATION DOWN THERE.
AND THEN THAT PUMP STATION'S BEING SITUATED WHERE IT WILL ALLOW THE TOWNSHIP TO EXTEND SEWERS IN THE FUTURE TO SERVE ALL THE EXISTING RESIDENCE IS UNC KLINE ROAD, SPROUSE CIRCLE AND LINFIELD TRAP ROAD IN THAT AREA OUT THERE.
SO THAT'D BE ANOTHER AREA THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST AREAS.
I AND ONCE THAT PUMP STATION GOES IN AND WE EXTEND SEWER THERE, THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT AREA TOO.
I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLY 37 CONNECTIONS OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE FOR THAT.
THERE'S 30, 30 NEW CONNECTIONS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL GO RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CONNECT.
THERE'S A TOTAL OF A HUNDRED POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS.
COUNTY AND THE EXISTING RESIDENCE AND THE OTHER OPEN SPACE LAND THAT'S OUT THERE THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE.
I MEAN, WE ARE BASICALLY HAVE THIS GOOD PORTION OF THIS TOWNSHIP SEWER WITH ONLY FOUR PUMP STATIONS AT THAT POINT.
WE'RE DOING IT WITH THREE NOW.
UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS, I'LL CALL FOR MOTION TO ADJOURN.
NOBODY EVER WANTS TO DELAY THE, THE MEETING.