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TRAVELS FAST, BOB.[CALL TO ORDER]
ALRIGHT.SINCE THIS IS REORGANIZATION, I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
[REORGANIZATION]
WHAT I NEED TO START IS WE NEED TO ELECT A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR.SO I'LL TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR.
WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS BEFORE YOU, I'M NOT RUNNING FOR CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR.
I THINK I'VE BEEN FOR TWO YEARS NOW.
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO STEP UP AND BE THE CHAIR.
UM, SO I'M, I'M NOT IN THE RUNNING FOR EITHER ONE.
WELL SOMEBODY HAS, YOU KNOW, LEAVE EVERYBODY.
SO THEN I'LL MAKE A, A A, A MOTION TO, UH, AS BILL BE CHAIR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? THAT NOMINATION? OKAY.
YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF 'CAUSE IF NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTE.
SO YOUR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEBODY OR WE CAN HOLD THAT NOMINATION UNTIL KEN IS HERE AND WE ACTUALLY MEET HIM AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT BILL STATUS IS AT THIS POINT, SO, WELL, UM, YEAH, LET'S HOLD, LET'S HOLD THAT.
I'M GONNA HAND THE OVER TO THING.
I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL SUPERVISORS MEETINGS AND MEETING THAT.
UM, I'LL TELL YOU AS, AS YOU'VE SEEN, WE KEEP IT VERY CASUAL HERE, YOU KNOW, ICE ICER SET.
UM, CHAIR IN THIS, IN THIS BOARD ISN'T AS FORMAL AS IT IS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION OR FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO, BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SET YOUR OWN AGENDA AND THEN TELL US WHAT YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA.
SEE THERE'S SOMETHING I KNOW THAT YEAH, SORRY.
AND THEN WE JUST GO DOWN THROUGH THE, THE AGENDA.
UM, WE CALL IT THE ORDER, WHICH WE'VE SORT OF DONE ALREADY.
EVERY AGENDA NEEDS TO BE APPROVED, SO JUST ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
SO, SO YEAH, WE REORGANIZED ALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
[APPROVE AGENDA]
AND, UH, ASK FOR A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE MINUTES.NO, WE, WHEN, UM, PATTY WENT THROUGH AND DID THE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING, SHE, SHE REALIZED THAT WE NEVER ACTUALLY APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TWO ON YOU.
AND SINCE YOU WEREN'T HERE, YOU CAN ABSTAIN IF YOU WANT TO, BUT IF GENERALLY ROUGH RULES OF ORDER ARE THAT IF YOU FEEL THE MINUTES WERE TAKEN RESPONSIBLY MM-HMM.
UH, CAN I ASK FOR, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE PREVIOUS MINUTES? AND I KNOW I HAD, WHEN I FIRST RECEIVED YOUR PACKET, I SENT YOU AN EMAIL.
THERE WAS ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, TREE PLANTING, NOT TREE PLANTING THAT YES.
THAT WAS JUST THE ONE QUESTION WE SHOULDA HAD.
DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING IT UP? UM, YEAH.
UNDER DISCUSSION WHEN WE MOVE ON? YEAH.
WE'LL JUST MAKE THAT A GENERAL DISCUSSION.
DO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE OF THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 20TH? I KNOW YOU WEREN'T HERE TO THE MEETINGS, BUT IF YOU, ROBERT WORTHY FOLLOW, IF YOU FEEL IT WILL BE TAKEN IN A MANNER AND MAKES SENSE TO YOU, YOU CAN GO.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER MEETINGS SECOND.
I THINK YOU MAY HAVE TO SECOND
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IT YOURSELF.AND THEN, UM, ACTION DISCUSSION ITEMS BROUGHT
[3. Introductions and setting 2024 Goals]
UP THAT YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE TREE.WELL FIRST OF ALL, I THOUGHT WE, SINCE WE HAVE A COUPLE NEW MEMBERS, WE KNOW EACH OTHER, BUT WALK THROUGH WHO WE ARE, WHERE WE COME FROM, WHAT WE ARE AT THE SHIP.
BOB'S PROBABLY THE SILO HERE, SO NOBODY KNOWS HIM.
I'M THE RECREATION COORDINATOR, THE TOWNSHIP, UH, YOUTH PROGRAMMING BACKGROUND, VARIOUS NATURE CENTER FOR MANY YEARS.
STUDENT CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION, 10 YEARS AT CHARLES PHOENIX.
YOUTH READINESS OR JOB READINESS FOR YOUTH FOR 10 YEARS.
AND SUMMERS, WELL ACTUALLY I SHOULD SAY EIGHT.
TWO SUMMERS I DID, BUT IT'S STILL JOB READINESS.
WHEN WAS THAT TRAVIS FOR TOMORROW.
OH, WRIGHT I FORMED TWO YEARS AGO.
UM, I STILL DON'T HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND UH, WE CONTINUE TO, UH, TRY TO FIND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT OUR GOALS AND AGENDAS ARE, UH, FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
BUT, UH, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
AND YOU'RE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES, I'M ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, PAN CAMPBELL, I LIVE DOWN THE STREET, UM, ACROSS FROM, UH, NIGHT OAKS, OBVIOUSLY I'M IN THE MILITARY.
I'M ACTIVE DUTY RESERVIST OVER AT MCGUIRE.
I AM A VOLUNTEER WITH THE PARKS ANDRES BOARD ALSO, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE SOUNDED INTERESTING, PLUS I WAS HELPING OUT PLACE.
AND ONE THING THAT SHE MENTIONED IS WHEN YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT WILDFLOWERS AND EVERYTHING, I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF CONCERNED IN WHAT, I DUNNO EXACTLY WHAT WE DO AND HOW MUCH POWER WE HAVE, HOW MUCH SUGGESTION WE HAVE.
BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD START HELPING OUT.
I NAME'S CHEF GRACE, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE BOARD FOR TWO YEARS AND PARTIAL THE MISDIRECTION OF NON DIRECTION, MIKE COME FROM MY NON DIRECTION.
AND, UM, BUT I'VE BEEN WITH THE TOWNSHIP NOW AS A CONSULTANT FOR 20 YEARS OR SO, 23 YEARS, WHICH IS JUST RIDICULOUS.
SO, UM, I HAVE PRETTY GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE ON AND, AND UM, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS BOARD OUT THERE AND DOING THINGS AND, AND NOT TALKING AS MUCH.
AND WE'RE DOING, SO BE LAURIE HIGGINS FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THIS, I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE I CREATED, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD HAVE A FEW, I MEAN TRAILS.
UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO GET RID OF ALL OF THE, UM, SO-CALLED OPEN SPACES AND VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, WHAT I DESCRIBE AS GOOSE ONES, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FROM IT.
I WOULD RATHER SEE THEM NOT BE MOANED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF OUR HMM.
ELIMINATE IT COULD SO WILDFLOWERS AND JUST LETTING THINGS GROW NATURAL AND A LOT OF TREES COULD BE PLANTED AT ANDERSON PARK.
UM, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
WELL, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE HAVE A EX SUPERVISOR ON THIS BOARD NOW BECAUSE I THINK AS FAR AS OUR FUNCTION, THAT SHOULD BE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT, IS, IS BRINGING THINGS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE SUPERVISORS.
WELL THAT'S OUR, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
YOU'RE AN ADVISORY BOARD OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND THAT MEANS LIKE WE'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT WITH THE TRASH BAG OR WITH THE PLASTIC BAG ORDINANCE AND THE GRASS COUNTY ORDINANCE, YOU
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KNOW, SORT OF, UM, SORRY.UM, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THINGS TO THE BOARD AND SAYING, LET US LOOK AT THEM.
WE'LL GO OVER THEM AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT SOMETHING TO YOU THAT YOU, WE THINK YOU CAN ADOPT WOULD BE THE INTENT.
WHAT THEY ADOPT IS, AS I'VE LEARNED OVER THESE 20 SOME YEARS, IT'S HERE HERE AND WE'RE THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO AND YOU JUST PRESENT TO THEM SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS WORTHWHILE AND, AND MOVE ON FROM THERE.
AND, AND HOPE THAT THEY, THEY DO THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SORT OF MY GOAL FOR THIS IS TO HAVE SOME ADVISORY ROLES TO BRING SOME MORE, LIKE YOU WERE AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT, MAYBE YOU WERE LEFT BY THEM, BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE AND SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ORDINANCES, THEY'RE WAY OUT OF DATE.
THE GRASS CUTTING ORDINANCES WAY OUT OF DATE.
UM, OTHER ORDINANCES LIKE THE PLASTIC BAG ORDINANCE TO BRING THOSE FORWARD AND TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE MAYBE NOT AS MUCH OF A DOER AND GET OUT THERE AND CLEAN UP YARDS, BUT MAYBE THAT CAN BE YOUR ROLE.
NOW I'M GONNA ASSIGN PEOPLE THINGS 'CAUSE I TRIED TO GET PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER LAST YEAR AND NOBODY DID.
SO WE'RE GONNA START ASSIGNING THINGS.
I'M SORRY TO TAKE AWAY FROM YOU.
UH, I WAS ASKED TO BE ON THIS BOARD INITIATED BY LAURIE.
UH, BUT I STARTED COMING TO MANY MEETINGS 'CAUSE OF PARKHOUSE.
BUT A A LOT OF THE ISSUES I TALKED ABOUT, PARTICULARLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY WERE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
I JUST BUILT FOR PEOPLE ON THEIR LOTS AND I'VE GOT A, A CERTIFICATION AS A SUSTAINABLE BUILDING ADVISOR.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I BUILD FOR SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE SLEW OF THINGS THAT WE TRY TO EITHER INCORPORATE INTO THE HOUSE OR CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVEN'T BOUGHT THEIR LOT YET, ITEMS LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, I THINK, YEAH, IT WAS RELATIVELY NEW AND I THINK IT DIDN'T, LIKE IT WASN'T RELATIVELY NEW.
IT MIGHT BEEN THE THIRD MONTH THAT YOU HAD A MEETING, I THINK WHEN I CAME.
SO, YEAH, SO NOW HERE WE ARE, A YEAR AND A HALF ON FROM THERE.
AND, UH, WE JUST DISCUSSED WE CAN PUT OUR TEETH INTO SOME ISSUES AND, AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS, GET SOME THINGS ADOPTED.
UM, RIGHT AFTER I JOINED THE UM, EACI HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO SEE DOUG AMI, WHICH SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE HEARD THAT STORY.
UH, AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, HE WAS, HE'S THE LAWN TO MEADOW MOVEMENT GUY AND HE'S WRITTEN BOOKS AND HE'S REALLY, WHEN HE CONVEYS WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT WITH, YOU KNOW, BIODIVERSITY AND THE BIRDS AND INSECTS AND THE PLANTS AND HOW EVERYTHING WORKS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF AN EPIPHANY FOR ME.
LIKE, OH WOW, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT OPEN SPACE, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND WHY IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER.
AND UH, AND THEN THAT SAME WEEK I WENT TO A WORKSHOP DOWN IN, UH, SOUTHERN CHESTER COUNTY SOMEWHERE AND IT WAS, UH, A LANDSCAPER WHO SPECIALIZES IN DOING MEADOW CONVERSIONS AND, UH, SOME PEOPLE FROM DCNR AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER GROUP FROM, UH, WELL THEY WERE ACTUALLY FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY, BUT THEY ARE SOURCES OF FUNDING, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU'RE TOWNSHIP OR ORGANIZATION OR WHATEVER WANTS TO PURSUE ANYTHING LIKE THIS, THERE AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE COULD TALK TO AN ENVIRONMENT.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S UH, YOU KNOW, I START WORKING, TRYING TO GET TEXAS, I TELL ME TO COME TO PHOENIXVILLE OR COME HERE AND MAYBE WE CAN STILL DO THAT AT SOME POINT.
I MEAN, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE US INVITE THE, UH, MANAGERS OF A LOT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, UH, GOLF COURSE, UH, MANAGERS, UM, PROPERTY MANAGERS, AND SOME OF THAT ARE OUR BIGGER CORPORATE PARKS.
AND TO HEAR AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN AND PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER THIS, UH, WEED AND AND GRASS ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT MIGHT ALL, UH, WORK TOGETHER AS WELL.
JUST SOMETHING I WANT TO THROW OUT THERE IS, UM, I GREW UP IN SEATTLE AND OUR PARKS FULL OF TREES.
I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL TREES, THEY AREN'T WALNUTS.
AND SO I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT OPEN SPACE MEANS A ALONG THAT GOES MANION.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT THERE'S A LOT START, BUT IT COULD BE TREES, IT COULD BE A FOREST.
THERE'S NO REASON THAT OPEN SPACE HAS TO BE A MAN CAN WALL.
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I THINK THAT TAKES EDUCATION AND YOU KNOW, IF TMY IS THAT THE GUY'S? YEAH.MAY MAYBE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD IF YOU GET HIM.
I'M ON MY OA BOARD SO I CAN TALK TO MY, BECAUSE I'M CONSTANTLY PUSHING NATIVE TREES.
COME DOWN LET'S REPLANTING NATIVE.
JUST, JUST THE TREES THEMSELVES AND JUST EVERYTHING.
I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO PUSH NATIVE OR IF A TREE COMES DOWN AND LEAVE IT THERE.
YEAH,
WE HAD TO FILE A BUNCH OF ASH TREES.
WE BOARDED THE BOROUGH PROPERTY AND THEY LET US JUST LEAVE THERE, FIND ANOTHER HABITAT FOR HABITAT.
OTHER RURAL CREATURES THAT WE DON'T EVEN THINK OF.
YEAH, I MEAN CERTAIN, CERTAINLY VALLEY BRIDGE PARK HAS A POLICY THAT YEAH, IF IT FALLS IN THE FOREST, IT STINK.
YOU CAN'T CARRY A WALKING STICK OUT OF THE BEACH.
OH, HEY, BEFORE WE JUMP ALL OVER SUE
I AM THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
UM, WHEN THIS BOARD WAS, UM, ESTABLISHED OR THIS COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED, MY, UM, AT THE TIME ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH IT.
SO I'M SURE SHE GAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INSIGHT.
SHE WAS MORE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE.
SO I'M TRYING TO PITCH IN WHERE I CAN.
UM, IN THE LAST, UM, MEETING THAT I WAS AT, WE DID TALK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS WHICH I CAN BRING UP IN DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE PARKS BOARD IS STILL INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US TO DO A COUPLE OF NICE INITIATIVES, LIKE SMALL ONES TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.
SO IF YOU NEED HELP WITH PLANNING PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I CAN HELP YOU TO DOVETAIL OFF OF THAT, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST AND GET THE THE COUNCIL, THE EACS OPINION AND APPROVAL ON IS TO MAKE OUR MAIN MEETING A MEETING WITH HOAS.
NOT SAYING NECESSARILY SAYING THAT DON'S GONNA BE THERE, BUT IF WE PUT THE WORD OUT NOW ON THE WEBSITE, HEY, IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF AN HOA, PLEASE EMAIL ADMIN ME, PATTY, WHOEVER.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT SOMEONE TO HAVE THAT EMAIL.
THAT CAN BE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TRACK HOAS FROM THE ZONING SIDE FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS.
AND WHEN WE HAVE, I THINK IT'S LIKE 60 DIFFERENT HOA AREAS, WE HAVE MAYBE HALF.
AND I THINK OF THAT HALF, MAYBE 35% OF THEM ARE ACCURATE JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SAY AN ELECTION, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T TELL ANYBODY.
THEY JUST, IT'S THE INTERNAL ELECTION AND THAT PERSON ROTATE EVERY YEAR.
AND THAT PERSON MOVES HALFWAY THROUGH THEIR TERM FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST FORMALIZE IT AND IF THE E'S OKAY WITH IT, SAY THAT OUR MAIN MEETING IS GOING TO BE AN INTRODUCTION AND A DISCUSSION WITH HOAS.
AND MAYBE IT'S JUST THAT WE SIT DOWN AND WE LISTEN TO WHAT THE HOAS HAVE TO SAY, WHAT THEIR ISSUES ARE IN RUNNING THEIR HOAS, WHETHER IT IS GRASS CUTTING OR OTHER THAN THAT, SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SORT OF AT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR BURDEN IS.
AND THEN MAYBE FROM THERE WE CAN ANSWER THAT AND WE CAN SAY, LOOK, WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING OUT FOR A, A MEADOW TO LAWN OR LAWN, NOT THE OTHER WAY.
WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT HOW YOU CAN NOT HAVE TO CUT YOUR GRASS AND SAVE MONEY THAT WAY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN? SO THAT WE CAN START PLANNING EVENTS AROUND SORT OF THAT, THAT THEY'RE SORT OF OUR FIRST CONTACT.
SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I'LL GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH SUE AND GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.
AND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN OUR, IN OUR MEETING IN MARCH, WE CAN FORMALIZE AN AGENDA AT THAT MEETING AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'LL BE DOING, THIS IS WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHO COMES AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
SO THERE'S TWO GROUPS YOU DEVELOP, THERE'S TWO GROUPS THERE.
YOU'VE GOT THE HO EIGHT MEMBERS WHO ARE ON BOARD OR WHATEVER.
THEN YOU'VE GOT MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT THEY HIRE TO DO THAT STUFF.
CUT THE GRASS, DO THE WEEDING, DO ALL THAT.
AND, AND SO, SO WHO YOU, YOU GONNA TARGET BOTH OF THOSE? OR I'M GONNA TALK TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HOA MEMBERS THAT IF THEY WANNA COME OUT AND IF THEY'RE ON THE, HOPEFULLY THEY'RE ON THE BOARD.
LIKE MY HOA WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
OUR BOARD RUNS IT, BUT I KNOW THERE'S OTHERS THAT HAVE AN HOA BOARD, BUT THEY HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
THEY MANAGEMENT THAT'S FAMILIAR.
AND, AND THEY CAN DIRECT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
I'D RATHER HAVE THE, THE RESIDENT MEMBERS OF THE HOAH OA BOARDS AT THE MEETING.
BUT WOULDN'T IT BE A, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO THE WORK THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU SAY, HEY, COULD YOU BRING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM YOUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY SO THEY UNDERSTAND INSTEAD OF IT GETTING, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE SECOND STEP.
BE ONLY BECAUSE I WANNA FIND OUT WHAT THE, IF, IF WE GET 10 HOAS OUT OF MAYBE THE 30, 40, 50 THAT WE HAVE IN THE TOWNSHIP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THING.
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ALL SAY, OH, GRASS CUTTING'S NOT AN ISSUE, OUR ISSUE IS CLEANING THE STREETS.OUR ISSUE IS TRAIL CONNECTIONS.
YOU KNOW, THAT GIVES US SOME DIRECTION.
I'M NOT SAYING WE WOULDN'T STILL WORK ON THE GRASS CUTTING PART OF IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME DIRECTION TO HAVE AN HOA COMPANY OUT HERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT AND GO, WELL NO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SEVEN DIFFERENT HOAS BETWEEN HERE AND PHOENIXVILLE, AND WE HAVE ONE LONG COUNTY COMPANY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
THEY'RE NOT PAYING US, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD'S GOTTA TELL US THAT THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT OVER.
SO I'D RATHER ATTACK THE BOARD FIRST AND, AND GO THROUGH THE BOARD FIRST, AND THEN COME BACK.
AND IF WE NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE, WITH THE, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANIES TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU'VE GOTTA DO.
IF, IF THERE IS A PLAN TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS HOW WE'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND MAKE A DIVERSION.
I JUST, MY CONCERN IS THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING THESE HOA PEOPLE TO SEND THE MESSAGE TO THE HOA MANAGEMENT COMPANIES.
AND I WOULD RATHER GIVE THAT MESSAGE DIRECTLY AND WE CAN, IF THAT MESSAGE, IF THAT'S A MESSAGE THEY WANNA CONVEY, I THINK WE COULD SIT DOWN WITH SOMEONE LIKE KO YOU SAID, AND, AND, AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
THAT'S A MILDLY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MESSAGE GETS DELIVERED THE WAY WE WANT IT TO BE DELIVERED.
AND NOT THROUGH AN HOA BOARD THAT MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT IT OR DOESN'T UNDERSTAND SA NON H OA MEMBER HERE.
EVEN IF HE KNOWS OF, EVEN IF HE KNOWS THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THAT KIND OF THING, THAT THEY HAVE A LARGE PARCEL, THEY HAVE A FIVE AC PARCEL, OR THEY HAVE SOMETHING ON THEIR PARCEL WHERE THEY WANT TO CONVERT IT.
THEY CAN COME TO THAT MEETING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN MA YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF HOW YOU CAN MANAGE YOUR PROPERTY.
I, I THINK IS, IS ALSO OF VALUE.
SO, SO ARE, ARE WE GONNA INITIATE AN AN INVITATION TO THE HOAS? YES.
WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, MY FIRST STEP FIRST IS TO REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW ARE ON H HOAS.
WOULD YOU SAY IT'S ABOUT 30 HOAS OUTTA 16? I THINK I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER AGAIN.
IN OTHER WORDS, THESE ARE, UH, CONTACTS THAT YOU, THAT I HAVE YES.
THAT WE THINK ARE THE CURRENT PRESIDENT'S CURRENT CHAIR, WHATEVER THEY CALL THEMSELVES.
AND THEN I'M GONNA PUT SOMETHING ON THE WEBSITE SAYING, IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF AN HOA, PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL TO WHATEVER EMAIL WE COME UP WITH.
WHOEVER'S GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF IT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET YOUR HOA PRESIDENT OR YOUR HOA CHAIR REACH OUT, HAVE THEM REACH OUT AND CONTACT US.
WE'RE INTERESTED IN MAKING CONTACT WITH ALL OF THE H HOAS IN THE TOWNSHIP BECAUSE AS MUCH AS WE'VE CALLED AND TRIED AND PATTY IN MY OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE TOWNSHIP AND WE SAY, WELL, WHO'S IN YOUR HOA? AND SOME RESIDENTS HAVE NO IDEA.
SO ARE WE GONNA INVITE THEM TO OUR MARCH MEETING? NO, NO.
WE'RE GONNA INVITE THEM TO THE MAY MEETING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT ONCE WE SORT OF SEE WHAT THE RESULTS ARE OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE REACHED OUT TO.
THAT WE WOULD COME UP WITH AN AGENDA AND WE WOULD MAIL THAT OUT TO ALL OF THE HOA CONTACTS THAT WE HAVE AND SAY WE'RE HAVING A MEETING ON MAY, WHATEVER OUR MAIN REGULAR MEETING IS, AND MAYBE WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A POINT TO CANCEL THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT NIGHT TO RUN OVER.
UM, YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT.
WE KNOW WELL ENOUGH IN ADVANCE.
AGAIN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON THESE NIGHTS.
YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU DON'T WANT TO BRING SOMEBODY IN THEN RUSH 'EM OUT.
SO WE WOULD INTERNALLY SET THE AGENDA, SEND THE INVITATION OUT IN MARCH ONCE WE FINALIZE THE AGENDA, AND THEN IN MAY HAVE THAT MEETING, SEE WHO ATTENDS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
DO YOU WANT, UM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFFLINE, MAYBE CONTACTING LINDA AND SEE IF SHE CAN PUT A FACEBOOK THING OUT TO GATHER SOME YES.
THAT'S I'M GOING TO USE YOU GOT IT.
'CAUSE THIS, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.
WELL IN THIS CONVERSATION, THIS WAS, I DUNNO IF EVERYBODY READS THE MERCURY.
I READ, I'M STILL AN OLD FASHIONED GUY, LIKES TO READ A NEWSPAPER.
UM, BUT THIS WAS A, THIS WAS AN ESTATE GRANT WILL HELP CONVERT LOGS TO MEADOWS AND THE STATE WAS GIVING A BUNCH OF MONEY TO PEOPLE THEY MAKE AWARE OF THAT.
OR NOW HOW DO WE GET INVOLVED IN THAT? OR DO ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT THOUGH? I DON'T.
IS THAT TO INDIVIDUALS OR, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK IT'S THE TOWNSHIPS TO, TO, UH, TO LOOK AT THAT.
UH, BUT THE STATE GAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO SOMEBODY TO DO THAT.
BEFORE WE JUMP ON THAT, ARE WE, I DON'T NEED A MOTION.
BUT IS THE BOARD, IS THE AC COMFORTABLE? I THINK WE'LL MOVE ANYTHING.
WE'RE WE'RE SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD START.
I DON'T NEED IT FOR THINGS, BUT YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FOLLOW UP ON THAT TO FIND OUT HOW YOU GET INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THERE'S A CONTACT ON HERE.
I CAN IS THIS THE FRENCH? YEAH.
YOU HAVE CONTACT THERE, DON'T YOU? YEAH.
I, AND I COULDN'T, I WASN'T READING THE WHOLE THING HERE.
I CAN'T TELL IF THAT IF THEY'VE BEEN AWARDED.
AND IF YOU HAVE LAND, I, WELL, I, I'LL REACH OUT TO THEM, FIND OUT WHAT IT'S, I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S MONEY OUT THERE APPARENTLY FOR THIS.
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AS SOMETHING WANNA DO, THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING STATE'S ALREADY GIVEN MONEY TO PEOPLE.RIGHT? IF WE CAN USE A SAMPLE, FIND A NO, THAT PROPERTY HERE, THE BENTLEY PRESERVE PROJECT AS IT'S RIGHT OVER NEAR THE VILLAGE OF NA MILL.
I, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A ROAD, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO IS IT IS BILL DEN? IS HE, YEAH.
SO, UM, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, CAN I GO INTO THE TREE REALLY QUICK? YEAH.
THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
SO, UM, GENERALLY, UM, THE PARK AND REC DEPARTMENT HAS OFFERED I THINK, MAYBE A HANDFUL OF FUNCTIONS ON OUR STATE ITSELF.
UM, THIS YEAR IN LIEU OF DOING OUR COMMUNITY EGG HUNT, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT MORE OF A SPRING PLAN.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND INCORPORATE ALL THINGS SPRING, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE EARTH DAY.
SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDARS, IT IS SATURDAY, APRIL 13TH.
UM, I'M GOING TO BEFORE EARTH DAY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT.
UM, ONE OF OUR THOUGHTS WAS TO REACH OUT TO A COUPLE OF OUR NURSERY PARTNERS AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DONATE, UM, SOME, UM, SOIL AND THE POTS THAT GO WITH IT SO WE CAN DO AN ACTIVITY WHERE KIDS CAN LEARN HOW TO PLANT AND BRING THAT HOME.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, I BROUGHT IT UP TO THIS MEETING BEFORE, WAS TO PARTNER, UM, WITH ANOTHER TREE, UM, A TREE ESTABLISHMENT TO GET SAPLINGS TO GIVE AWAY AT THIS EVENT.
AND WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS
SO THIS IS A WHOLE NEW, THE EGG, UM, HUNT COMMUNITY IS JUST REALLY, REALLY INTENSE AND THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM.
SO WE, AND IT IS, IT IS COMPETITIVE.
IT'S VERY COMPETITIVE AND RIDICULOUSLY COMPETITIVE.
AND, UM, WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB COMPETING LAST YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO THIS.
IT'S GONNA BE MORE OF A VENDOR TRUNK OR TREAT WITH SOME SPRING FLINGING AND EGG HUNT TYPE OF OPTIONS THAT DAY.
IT WILL NOT BE, I'M SORRY,
WELL, WE CAN'T KNOW YET BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY SITUATION IS WITH
UM, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT MARKETED SOON.
BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I BRING UP TO THE BOARD.
IF ANYONE KNEW OF ANY TREE NURSERIES THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE AWAY SAPLINGS, UM, IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT EVENT, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER HAVE A TRUNK THAT DAY AND BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE WHAT IT IS THE EAC DOES AND LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE HAVE IT AND WE'RE ESTABLISHED.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THIS IS FORMED.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
NO, WHAT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR INTENT TO HAVE KIDS DO THIS? SO THE INTENT IS TO SHOWCASE TO THE CHILDREN HOW TO ACTUALLY, WHAT A SAPLING DOES OR ANY KIND OF SEED.
I THINK THE ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR WE HAD WALLFLOWER SEEDS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO START THE PROCESS IN THEIR LITTLE POTTED PLANT.
THEY WERE ABLE TO START THEIR PROCESS AND THEN THEY WERE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS ON WHEN IT GOT SO BIG, THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE THAT PLANT AND THEN GROW IT IN THE GROUND.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING TREES NOW YOU'RE THINKING SAME THING, BUT WHAT WOULD THE TREES, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT PART FOR THE, I'D LIKE TO DO THE LITTLE SEEDS AND THE, UM, CEREAL AND THE POP FOR THE KIDS AND THEN FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO COME THAT OUR RESIDENTS OF OUR PROVIDENCE WOULD GET A TREE SAPLING TO ENCOURAGE THE GROWTH NATURAL OF, UM, NATIVE TREES TO THIS AREA.
NOW THE ONLY TROUBLE WITH THAT IS THEY'RE LITTLE BABY SAPLINGS.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GIVING EVERYONE A FIVE FOOT STARTER TREE
SO, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT HOME AND, AND NURTURE IT FOR, AND YOU WOULD BE A COUPLE OR WHATEVER LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER THAT TELLS YOU EXACTLY HOW TO DO IT.
UM, I KNOW THAT I'M GONNA FORGET THE NAME OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT, UM, GENERALLY IF YOU, UM, GIVE MONEY TO THIS PROGRAM, THEY SEND YOU ALMOST, UM, YOU CAN EITHER CHOOSE IT'S THE AADE FOUNDATION.
AND THEY'LL GIVE YOU EITHER LIKE SIX SAPLINGS, YOU CAN GET 12 DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH MONEY YOU DONATE.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO GO ON IT OR IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYBODY THAT OWNS A TREE FARM OR A NURSERY THAT WOULD WANT TO GIVE SAPLINGS TO GIVE AWAY TO THE TOWNSHIP.
I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO OWNS A TREE FARM OR A NURSERY.
BUT, BUT IF, IF I DID, AND I'M JUST ASKING 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE INCENTIVE TO DO THAT? GET MORE TREES PLANTED.
WELL, YOU KNOW THE SAME BUT THEY WANT YOU TO BUY 'EM, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF THEY'RE A TREE FARM, THEY WANT YOU TO BUY THE TREE.
I THINK IT DEPENDS BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE THE SCHOOLS, UM, MY DAUGHTER'S SCHOOL DOES THIS EVERY YEAR.
THAT EVERY GREEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON EARTH DAY IS GIVEN A PINE TREE SAPLING.
AND THEY ARE MIGHT BE AN EVERGREEN 'CAUSE IT'S EVERGREEN SCHOOL, BUT THEY GIVE THEM THAT AND THEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GROW IT AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO NURTURE AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE PICTURES WITH IT AND SHOW THE SCHOOL LIKE, WELL HOW GREAT WHITE TREES GROWING AND YADA YADA.
AND THEY BLAST THE NAME OF THE COMPANY
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WHO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY IF DO THAT MINING THE ARBOR DAY, THEY MAY NOT GET NATIVES AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS SURVIVE.AND THEN, BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A FOCUS ON GETTING NATIVE TREES AND NOT JUST, I HAD ONE SURVIVE STILL IN THE FRONT YARD, BUT IT DIDN'T, IT HASN'T GROWN MUCH.
I PURPOSELY PICKED THE ONES THAT IT SWORE UNDER THERE.
LIKE, THESE WILL GROW UNDER ANY CONDITION.
YOU HAVE THE SAME TREE FARMER IN THE TOWNSHIP THAT I DO.
DO YOU THINK WE COULD APPROACH HIM? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA, UM, ASK THEM AND THEN THE CONVERSATION WITH SOIL ALSO CAME UP IN THAT MEETING.
SO I WAS GONNA ASK HIM FOR BOTH.
HE, HE DID OFFER ME A REALLY TINY BABY FOR CYNTHIA PLANTS CHEAP SO AND THING PUT HIS NAME ON EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT A TREE, MAYBE IT IS LIKE A, MAYBE THERE'S BUTTERFLY BUSHES OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GIVE OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT, UM, IT IS AN IDEA.
UM, I DID IT FOR UPPER, UPPER ERIAN, UM, TOWNSHIP WHEN I WAS OVER THERE AND WE GAVE EVERYONE AWAY TREES.
UM, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S, IT'S EARTH DAY.
SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT EDUCATED IN THIS.
SO IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT EDUCATION.
WELL I THINK FOR, FOR US, FOR THE BOARD, I THINK IT'D BE NICE TO SET UP A A A TABLE THERE AT YOUR EVENT AND UH, CERTAINLY TELL PEOPLE THERE IS AN EAC HERE.
RIGHT? I, AND THEN WHO KNOWS WHO'S GONNA WALK BY AND BE LIKE, OH, I AM IN THE HOAI SHOULD PROBABLY COME TO THAT MAYBE THING BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LIKE A COUPLE WEEKS AFTERWARDS.
I THINK SOMETHING IMPORTANT WOULD BE TO SHOW THEM HOW TO PROPERLY PLANT TO OH YEAH, WE CAN DO DEMONSTRATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT PROPERLY.
AND THAT'S, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DEMONSTRATIONS.
BUT THAT WAS THE COMPETITION THAT WE BROUGHT UP.
AND THEN THE OTHER SECTION TO THAT WAS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THE PARK AND REC BOARD HAS BEEN TRYING TO ESTABLISH IS A TREE PROGRAM.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MEMORIAL TREE PROGRAM.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY IN ORDER TO GET A MEMORIAL TREE, SOMEONE YOU KNOW, MUST HAVE PASSED AWAY IN ORDER TO BE, I HATE TO LAUGH, IT'S JUST KIND OF FUNNY.
UM, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER OPTION WHERE IT IS JUST, YOU CAN PROVIDE, UM, A SINGLE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
IT COULD BE $20, MAYBE IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS, MAYBE YOU'RE FEELING GENEROUS THAT DAY.
AND THAT WILL GO INTO A POT OF MONEY THAT WITH, IF WE GET $5,000 BY THE END OF THAT YEAR, WE WILL USE ALL THAT MONEY ON AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN TO PLANT ALL OVER THE TOWNSHIP.
SO INSTEAD CALLING IT IN AN HONOR TREE THAT YOU WANT HONOR SOMEONE, THEY DON'T.
WELL THE WAY THAT, SO THE MEMORIAL TREE, IT'S EXPENSIVE TO GET A MEMORIAL TREE.
WE CAN CHANGE THE NAME ALL WE WANT, BUT IT'S, SO YOU'RE BUYING THIS ONE TREE AND YOU'RE PICKING WHAT TYPE OF TREE YOU WANT AND YOU GET A LITTLE PLAQUE WITH IT AND EVERYTHING ON THOSE LINES.
WHAT THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE IS PEOPLE CAN DONATE ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THEY'D LIKE TO BUILD THAT POT SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO PUT TREES IN BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY EXPENSIVE AND WE DON'T ALWAYS GET, GET A MARKER LIKE SAYING WE CAN.
AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE SOMEWHAT FULL GROWN TREES.
YEAH, THEY'RE MORE OF A SEEDINGS.
THEY'RE GONNA LIVE OR YEAH, MOST OF THE TREES WE'RE GONNA BUY GOOD TREES LIKE A TREE THAT YOU'D BUY AT A NURSERY TO, TO GET YOUR LANDSCAPE.
THEY WOULDN'T BE THE FIVE FEET THAT WE DO FOR, UM, A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON CAMPUS, BUT THEY WOULD BE GROWN ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THE SOIL, HOPEFULLY.
UM, WE ALSO GENERALLY HAVE A WARRANTY ON ALL THE TREES THAT WE BUY LOCALLY THAT IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE DEAD WITHIN THE YEAR OR AT ANY POINT WE REPLACE THEM.
AND WHERE, WHERE WOULD YOU PROPOSE TO BUILD OR TO PLANT THESE TREES? WE CAN PLANT THEM ANYWHERE.
OUR HESS PROPERTY IS LOSING TREES LEFT AND RIGHT.
IT WAS A LOT OF ASH TREES WERE PLANTED THERE AND A LOT OF THEM ARE DYING OFF.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF FALLEN TREES THERE.
UM, WHERE AT THE
UM, SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL WALKING TRAIL.
IT'S THE MOST NATURE TRAIL THAT WE DO HAVE ON THE PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE KIND OF COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WE'RE GONNA LET IT KIND OF REFOREST ITSELF WHILE WE MOW THE TRAIL THAT'S WITHIN IT.
UM, BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT WE LOST, WE WOULD LIKE TO RE REPLANT A LOT THERE.
THERE'S PLACES ON THIS CAMPUS, ANDERSON MCFARLAND THAT WE HAVE LOST ON OTHER TREES IN THE PAST THAT WE COULD, AND TAYLOR, TAYLOR WOULD BE COMING UP WITH THE YEAH, TAYLOR WOULD BE, I THINK THE GOOD BECAUSE I AGREE.
WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, LAND THAT I THINK, UH, WE OWN IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD FROM UM, PARKHOUSE? NO, WE OWN PARKHOUSE.
OH, THE HOUSE ACROSS FROM THE HOUSE.
JUST KEEP SAYING THINGS AND SHE'S JUST GETTING MORE, MORE CONFUSING THE GUY WHO'S STILL THERE.
THAT WE DO OWN A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR IT'S LIKE SEVEN ACRES ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS SEVEN ACRES OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO REASON THAT THAT'S
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BUT THAT'S ALL OPEN RIGHT NOW.RIGHT? IT IS ALL OPEN AND THERE'S NO REASON THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THERE.
I MEAN, THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE THE POWER LINES ARE RIGHT THERE, SO WE HAVE TO STAY OFF THE TOP.
THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THERE'S NO TRAILS IN THERE THOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S A FARM.
LIKE, IT'S ALSO LIKE THE PROPERTY THAT'S AT THE CORNER OF VALLEY VIEW AND HESS.
IT'S LIKE THAT WE, THERE'S A, WE PROBABLY STILL HAVE THE CONTRACTS FOR THE GUYS THAT DO SOFT FARMING HANDSHAKE.
YOU KNOW, SAME THING WITH THE TAYLOR PROPERTY, RIGHT? IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME THING WITH THIS.
IT'S FARMED AS AS, BUT IT IS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
I THINK IT'S THE STUFF THAT'S THERE IS FARMED RIGHT? IT'S, BUT, AND AND I, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THAT, THAT I THINK I'D LIKE TO MOVE AWAY FROM HAVING JUST FARM FIELDS AND REFOREST THEM ABSOLUTELY.
FROM A PUBLIC WORK STANDPOINT, IT WOULD JUST MAKE IT SO MUCH EASIER TO MAINTAIN.
EVEN THOUGH I'M DON'T MAINTAIN THEM SO
BUT SO WHAT IS THE COST OF THESE TREES? NOTHING HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED YET.
IT'S BEEN KIND OF AN IDEA THAT WE'VE BEEN THROWING BACK AND FORTH FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR NOW.
UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO GET GOING IN 24.
SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS TREE OR THAT IT'S A $500 TREE.
RIGHT? WELL BASICALLY I WOULD SEND, UM, OUR PUBLIC WORKS.
WE DO HAVE, UM, AS A, A GENTLEMAN ON OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM THAT IS TREE SPECIFIC.
WHAT'S THE NAME? GEORGE V? NO, NO, NO.
IS AN ARBORIST AND HE'S THE WHO PICKS OUT THE TREES RIGHT NOW.
UM, HE'S THE ONE THAT'S BEEN DOING FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
WHENEVER I ASK THEM TO PLANT ONE.
SO, UM, IT WOULD BE SEEING UM, WHERE AND WHAT KIND OF TREES ARE, ARE BEST.
THAT'S THE ONE THING WITH THE PROGRAM.
IT DOESN'T REALLY SPECIFIC, IT'S NOT LIKE IT IS A MENU OR GIVE A HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUY THIS COUNTRY, GET 500 BY THIS COUNTRY.
IT'S REALLY AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE'RE GONNA HAVE A POT OF MONEY AND WE'RE GONNA SAY WHATEVER WE CAN GET AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE'RE GONNA PLANT TREES IN THIS AREA.
MAYBE ONE YEAR WE FOCUS ON ONE PLACE.
I MEAN THE TREES ARE EXPENSIVE.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO HOG ALL THAT TIME.
BUT IN THE SPIRIT OF VOLUNTEERING PEOPLE FOR HIM, I'M GONNA, SINCE HE'S ON BOTH BOARDS, I'M, I'M GONNA TASK YOU WITH THAT.
WORKING WITH SUE ON MAKING THAT PROGRAM.
AND I THINK THAT CAN BE A JOINT EAC.
OBVIOUSLY AS, AS STAFF, YOU KNOW, AS A JOINT EAC UM, PARTIAL REC PROJECT, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD LIAISON BETWEEN, AND IT'S A GOOD STARTER PROJECT.
IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING FOR YOU GUYS TO AT LEAST START AND PUT OUT THERE ON THE EAC PAGE IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN EAC PAGE, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE LIKE THE THERMO, LIKE GUESS HOW MANY TREES WERE IN ONE PLANT THIS YEAR? AND THIS IS BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM.
SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S GONNA BE IN HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, IS THERE A NAME FOR THIS PROGRAM? UM, SPRINGFIELD
AND ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE SPRING FLING, THE MAIN ATTRACTION IS AN EGG HUNT.
DID YOU SAY IT'S GOING TO BE, WE'RE GONNA USE THE TRAIL MOST LIKELY OVER HERE AT BLACKROCK BEHIND THE DOUBLE-SIDED PAVILION OR LOOP TRAIL.
AND WHAT WE USUALLY DO IS WE PUT OUT A TON OF SPRING DECORATIONS AND WE HIDE CERTAIN THINGS IN SUPPORT A SCAVENGER HUNT.
THAT'S PART OF THE SPRING THING.
SPRING, I THINK SPRINGING IS GONNA BE LIKE A, A SPRINGTIME COMMUNITY DAY.
WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT BOOTH ON A SMALLER SCALE AND WHERE WE GET PEOPLE OUT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING OUR EASTER EGG ON IT.
'CAUSE EVERYBODY HAS EASTER EGG ON IT.
SO SO IT'S YOUR EARTH DAY EVENT.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE OUR LITTLE SPRING BASH.
LIKE WELCOME BACK TO THE OUTSIDE NOW THAT SORT OF LIKE A SPRING FLAME ON THE RADIUS DAY.
HEY, WHY DON'T WE CALL IT SPRING FLAKE? HEY, THERE'S AN IDEA.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AND I, THAT THAT DOCUMENT THAT YOU PASSED OUT TO US MM-HMM.
I PASSED THAT ON TO THE EARTH DAY PHOENIXVILLE PEOPLE.
AND THEY WERE LIKE, WOW, THIS IS GREAT.
I GOT SOME ORGANIZATION AROUND.
SO YEAH, THAT FIRST ONE WAS A LITTLE, THE FIRST DRAFT? NO, THE FIRST PHOENIX WORTH DAY.
THAT WAS A LITTLE, I MEAN IT WAS GOOD BUT IT WAS A LITTLE PRETTY GOOD.
I MEAN IT HAD A GREAT TURNOUT.
WELL JOLIE, I KNOW JOLIE WASN'T CLEAR ON WHAT SHE USED.
MY WIFE AND I WERE THERE, WE KIND OF WHEN OH, HER MANDELA THING.
WELL THE WHOLE THING WITH THAT EVENT, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SPRING FLING MIGHT SHAKE OUT, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT THAT DID THE EARTH DAY TRELLIS IS ASSOCIATED.
BUT YEAH, IT WAS TRANSITION,
UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A SORT OF A FUNDRAISER AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A NON-PROFIT SO THEY WANT TO GET
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MONEY IN THEIR COFFERS TO DO THINGS AND SO FORTH.SO THERE WAS A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, SPONSORSHIP LEVEL YEP.
A VENDOR LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS GONNA GET THAT'S SOPHISTICATED OR EVENTUALLY THERE'S A GREAT FORM.
ALRIGHT, SO THE THREE THINGS WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE THE HOA REACHING OUT TO THE HOA AND FINDING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE OA.
AND I WILL WORK, I'LL GO BACK TO YOU FOR THAT.
AND I WILL COME UP AND I WILL WORK ON THE EAC PAGE FOR THE TOWNSHIP'S WEBSITE TO GET SOMETHING THERE.
OR LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PLASTIC BAG.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE PLASTIC BAG ORDINANCE THAT WE, WE STARTED TO DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
WELL WE WE'RE, WE'VE GOTTEN IT AND WE WE'RE SORT OF FORWARDING IT ON TO JOE, JOE FOR IS TO REVIEW SAME THING WITH THE GRASS CUTTING ORDINANCE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE BOARD MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BRING THOSE BACK.
WE'LL TRY TO TALK ABOUT THOSE IN MARCH AND I'LL BUG JOE AND MAKE SURE THAT HE CAN GO THROUGH AND HAS JOE GOTTEN THE DOCUMENT? HE HAS? HE HAS.
IT'S JUST CHRISTMAS AND THEN OTHER THINGS.
IT TAKES HIM A LITTLE BIT OF HIS TIME.
UM, SO WE, I WILL PUSH THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT AGENDA.
AND HOPEFULLY IF WE CAN AGREE ON THE DRAFTS, THEN WE'LL SEND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ATE ON MY WHOLE THING THAT I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH THE PLASTIC BANK, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO WIN.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY.
AND THAT'S AN EASY ONE, RIGHT? WE CAN, WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE USED.
MATTER OF FACT, HERE'S ANOTHER ARTICLE, BUT USED CHAIR, THIS IS ANOTHER COPY IN THE PAST ONE, JUST RECENTLY ANOTHER.
SO YOU HAVE TO BUY THATS, THAT'S THE, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE USING AS THE MODEL IS THE AMERICAN.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS, 'CAUSE I READ THAT YOU READ THAT THAT'S MONTGOMERY TOWNSHIP.
EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE FOLLOWING THE SAME GUIDELINES WHICH THEY STOLE FROM AMBLER, WHICH JOE HELPED.
SO, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF THE, THE PLAING COMMISSION THEN THE SUPERVISOR.
WE CAN SAY, HEY, HERE'S SOMETHING WE'RE DOING.
AND THEY CAN VOTE AGAINST IT OR WHATEVER.
BUT AT LEAST WE'VE PRESENTED SOMETHING AS WE THINK IS A GOOD IDEA.
AND WHITEMAN'S ALREADY STARTED IT.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING IT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE PAPER STRAWS MORE AND MORE AND UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY DOES.
BUT I JUST, I UNDERSTAND WHY I FIGHT THIS WITH MY WAY.
SO WHAT YOU DRINK IN ONE COKE WITH MAKE STRAW, WHY IS THAT SO BAD? I JUST DEPENDS HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO DRINK IT BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK.
WELL I SAID THAT SOMEBODY WHO SAID THAT SAME THING.
I SAID, WHAT DO YOU DRINK WITH A STRAW? THEY SAID, I SHAKE LIKE KIDS AND PAPER STRAWS ARE JUST GET YOUR STAINLESS STEEL FROM MY MOTHER-IN-LAW BOUGHT ALL OF HER KIDS AND SHE'S NOT THE MOST ENVIRONMENTAL PERSONNEL.
SHE BOUGHT ALL OF HER GRANDKIDS.
SEE THE, THE STRAWS IN THE LITTLE CONTAINER WHENEVER WE GO TO THE BEACH, THEY ALL HAVE 'EM.
WELL I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT EXPAND TO THAT STRAWS AND EVEN CUP SINGLE USE.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE STUFF YOU SEE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AT LEAST NOT YOU SEE BAGS AROUND.
YOU SEE COPS RUNNING OUT THERE IN ANDERSON.
I LIKE THAT STUFF TOO, BUT I JUST, I'M WILLING TO GIVE IT UP BAD.
THEY HAVEN'T, THEY'RE MAKING STRAWS NOW AVOCADO AT AVOCADOS TO WHERE THEY LET, THEY DON'T DISSOLVE.
BUT IF YOU LEAVE THEM OUTSIDE, THEY JUST DECOMPOSE EVENTUALLY.
THEY'RE NOT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
PAPER AVOCADOS OR I KNOW THE PAPER THING YOU BE HAVING, THEY'RE LIKE, THEY JUST FALL APART.
BUT I FIGURED ONE TIME YOU DRINK A COKE, GO HOME.
YOU COULD WE, UH, SHARE EMAIL ADDRESSES? I, I WILL PUT OUT AN EMAIL.
I HAVE THE THING FROM YOU THAT ALSO CAME THE SAME DAY YOU EMAILED ME THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES THAT YOU NEED TO JUST, THAT YOU WANT ME TO DISTRIBUTE FOR THAT CONFERENCE, THE VIDEO CONFERENCE ON THE 20TH.
I, YEAH, I COULDN'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY ANYTHING.
BUT YEAH, AS WE HEAR ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE CAN SHOOT IT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
YOU KNOW, I, I WILL, I WILL PUT EVERYBODY'S EMAIL ADDRESS, SEND IT TO JEFF AND THEN JEFF.
I WILL PUT EVERYBODY'S EMAIL ADDRESS ON THERE.
AND, AND SO YOU FEEL FREE TO, IF YOU HEAR OF A PROGRAM, HEAR A SEMINAR OR HEAR OF SOMETHING, JUST SEND IT OUT AND THEN IF YOU ATTEND, JUST COME BACK AND TELL US ABOUT THAT DOUG TMY THING.
I JUST HAPPENED TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
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FOR PROPERTIES, EASEMENTS PROVIDED BY EASEMENTS.I'M SURE THERE IS DIFFERENT GRANTS.
WELL, AND THAT WHATEVER, WHATEVER PROGRAM THEY GOT THEIR MONEY FROM MIGHT BE RIGHT.
I KNOW LIKE DCNR PUTS CERTAIN THINGS OUT.
PP LIKE NRPA DOES, LIKE, THERE'S CERTAIN ONES THAT I KNOW.
I JUST ASSUMED THOUGH YOU WOULD KNOW SOMEBODY THAT COULD, WOULD SETTING.
I THINK WE COVERED EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA MOTION.