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I'M START, I GOTTA, I'M CALLING
[CALL TO ORDER]
THIS, I'M CALLING THE, UH, JANUARY 3RD, 2024, PLANNING, COMMISSION, REORGANIZATION, MEETING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN EFFECT,[REORGANIZATION]
UM, BECAUSE IT'S REORGANIZATION, WE HAVE TO REELECT BOARD MEMBERS WHILE WE ELECT REELECT A CHAIR, A VICE CHAIR, AND A SECRETARY.UH, DO I HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THAT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO IT ANOTHER YEAR.
I WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE.
WE CAN, WE CAN DO, UM, I THINK WE CAN DO ONE AT A TIME OR WE COULD RETAIN THE SLATE, SO TO SPEAK, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.
COULD WE, COULD WE JUST MAKE THE MOTION TO RETAIN THE THREE OF US AS THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.
I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ALL THREE OF US WILL STAY SAME.
DO I HAVE A SECOND IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE, EVERYBODY? YES.
ANY OPPOSED? MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MEETING IS YOURS ALL.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL FOR THAT.
ANY PUBLIC? ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO.
WE THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WERE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT.
[GENERAL DISCUSSION ITEMS]
GENERAL DISCUSSIONS, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 12TH, AND I GUESS THEY'RE ATTACHED HERE.SO IF EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO PERUSE 'EM REAL QUICKLY, DOES THE, UM, DID, DID THE GENTLEMAN FOR WHICH WE NOW HAVE A VERY WELCOME POLICE OFFICER,
I MEAN, WE BASICALLY, UH, WE SORT OF WENT BACK AND FORTH AND SAID THAT MR. CONNOLLY MADE COMMENTS PERTAINING TO ONGOING LEGAL ISSUES WITH TOLL BROTHERS NOT PERTAIN TO THIS APPLICATION.
THE SOLICITOR INSTRUCTED MYSELF TO CALL THE POLICE AND THEN MR. CONNOLLY LEFT.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, I SEE IT THERE NOW.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, THE MINUTES.
BOB'S MADE A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT THE MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 12TH.
JEFF, GENERALLY, YEAH, I THINK WE CAN CALL THAT PASSING.
SHOULD WE FORGET SOMETHING? NO, BECAUSE SHE WASN'T HERE.
SHE DOESN'T, SHE TECHNICALLY, ACTUALLY, NICOLE, YOU CAN VOTE ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE MINUTES, YOU ASSUME THE MINUTES WERE RECORDED CORRECTLY.
SO, AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM ON THERE IS APPLICATION TO BE HEARD ON? WELL, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS TO BE HEARD.
UM, REALLY THAT'S SORT OF A PLACEHOLDER.
[DISCUSSION: FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
ITEM WOULD REALLY JUST BE THE DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AND RIGHT NOW WHAT IT'S LOOKING LIKE IS JANUARY 17TH.WE'LL TALK ABOUT PROVIDENCE TOWN CENTER AND THEIR FINAL PLAN.
I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY PR PRETTY CLOSE ON THE LETTERS.
THAT'S THE HOTEL AND APARTMENTS.
UH, THEN FEBRUARY 7TH, THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED AGAIN, IF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PASSES THE POTENTIAL ZONING AMENDMENT ONTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT AT THAT NIGHT.
WE'D HAVE OUR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS, PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
AND UH, THAT PROBABLY IS GONNA TAKE A COUPLE MEETINGS.
AND SO WE WILL PLAN FOR THAT FOR THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE IN FEBRUARY AND JANUARY 17TH, WE'LL HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, REORGANIZATION FOR THAT.
WE HAVE NOW ARE YOU, ARE YOU, UH, DO WE, DID YOU REPLACE BOB YET? GILLY GILLEY.
GILLY? UM, YES, HE WAS, THERE WAS SOMEONE NOMINATED TO THAT POSITION THE LAST NIGHT? LORI HIGGINS, THE FORMER FORMER SUPERVISOR.
IS NOW THE, THE AT LARGE, WHICH IS WHAT BOB WAS FILLING.
YOU'RE STILL OUR APPOINTEE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
RIGHT? THERE'S A, THERE WAS A NEW APPOINTEE FROM THE PARKS AND REC BOARD BECAUSE MARIA SUPERVISOR? YEAH, WELL HE WAS SUPERVISOR AT THE MEETING.
HE CAME TO THE MEETING, REMEMBER? RIGHT.
I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME 'CAUSE I DON'T EITHER.
AND THEN I THINK BILL CASPER'S RETURNING FROM THE SEWER AUTHORITY, BUT I, FROM MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY, BUT I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE.
AND BILL'S AND, AND FELTON'S COMING BACK.
AND BILL FELTON? YEAH, HE'S, HIS TERM IS, HE'S, I THINK IT'S A THREE YEAR TERM, SO HE'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
WELL I'M, I'M NOT GONNA BE, I'M NOT GONNA RUN FOR CHAIR FOR THAT COMMITTEE.
WELL WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT THAT NIGHT.
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ANY UPDATE ON ANY OTHER OF THE, UM, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE 'EM ALL LISTED HERE, BUT ANY OTHER LIKE, UH, LEWIS ROAD? NO.UM, THE ONLY THING THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IN NEW THAT WE JUST GOT IN THIS LAST WEEK IS, UM, THE SOUTH COLLEGEVILLE 1731 SOUTH COLLEGEVILLE ROAD.
IT'S FOUR BUILDINGS, WHICH IS ABOUT 9,000, 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE WITH APARTMENTS ABOVE IT THAT CAME IN FOR FINAL PLAN.
I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST GOTTEN THAT EMAIL TODAY.
AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS AN UPDATE TO THE PLAN FOR 2 46.
THAT WAS THE MINOR SUBDIVISION.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY NEW PLANS WE'VE GOTTEN IN OVER THE LAST MONTHS.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY UPDATES ON YYS OR LEWIS ROAD OR, NO, I KNOW THAT YERKES STATION AND, AND HOPWOOD, THEY'RE BOTH WORKING TOWARDS FINAL.
UM, AGAIN, THAT'S MOSTLY ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF FROM THE OUTSIDE AGENCIES, FEMA, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY HAVE TO LINE UP THAT THEY WANNA GET LINED UP BEFORE THEY FINALIZE THEIR PLANS.
UH, LEWIS ROAD, THE LAST I HEARD IS THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER FOR THAT IS SELLING IT TO PULTE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONE THROUGH OR NOT, BUT PULTE WILL BE
OH, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER SELLING IT TO PULTE.
UM, I, I THINK GENERALLY IT'S GONNA LOOK EXACT.
I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
THEY'RE NOT SUGGESTING ANY CHANGES.
UM, SO THERE, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING.
WE WILL A PLAN FOR YES, IT'S FULLY APPROVED, BUT THAT THEREFORE EVEN THOUGH IT TRANSFERS YEP.
THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE PLAN AS EXISTED.
YES, THEY WOULD'VE TO COME BACK.
IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE SOMETHING.
IF THEY WANNA CHANGE SOMETHING, YES, THEY WOULD'VE TO COME BACK.
THEY'VE BEEN ATTENDING THE MEETINGS, SO THEY'VE PROBABLY WORKED TOGETHER TO PUT IN EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED.
AND WE DID HAVE A COORDINATION MEETING WITH THEM AND THEIR ATTORNEY WITH PULTE, THEIR ATTORNEY AND THE ATTORNEY AND EVERYBODY FOR, FROM SOUTH LEWIS ROAD TO JUST COORDINATE WHERE EVERYBODY WAS.
SO I THINK THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THEIR FINANCIAL END OF IT.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOME FINANCIAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE WITH WHAT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING DONE AND WHICH ONES AREN'T.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN MOST.
SO I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING DIFFERENT YET.
THAT'S A QUESTION I WAS GONNA ASK NICK.
THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, DID THEY HAPPEN BEFORE, DURING OR AFTER? DURING THEY WOULD DURING, THEY WOULD BE DURING.
SO THERE WILL BE NO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL THEY GET STARTED DOING THE ACTUAL WORK? YEAH, THEY WOULD DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
THEY WOULD DO, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING IF THE NORMAL ORDER OF CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS, THEY WOULD DO IT WHEN THEY START TO DO GRADING THAT THAT'S WHEN THEY START MOVING EARTH AND THEY WOULD MOVE CURBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW THE TOWNSHIP HAS ASKED ANTHONY AND AND MYSELF TO SORT OF MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT INTERSECTION.
THERE'S STUFF THAT THE TOWNSHIP'S DOING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE NECESSARILY GOING TO BE AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE WE'RE SIX MONTHS TO NINE MONTHS BEHIND THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME PLANNING AND SOME DESIGN WORK INVOLVED THAT BOWMAN, WHICH IS NOW MCMAHON, IS NOW BOWMAN AND IT'S GONNA TAKE US FOREVER.
THEY THEY, IT SHOULD TAKE US FOREVER TO GET THAT DOWN.
BUT WE'LL, UM, I, I THINK BOWMAN'S WORKING ON THAT AND SO WE WILL HOPEFULLY WE CAN KIND OF WRAP IT ALL UP INTO ONE TIME, BUT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION IS, NICOLE WASN'T HERE ON THE 12TH, UH, COULD YOU JUST REAL BRIEFLY GIVE UH, HER AN UPDATE ON, UM, PARKHOUSE SHE AND I MET.
SHE CAME IN BEFORE SHE LEFT FOR THE BEAUTIFUL STATE OF COLORADO AND UM, YEAH.
AND, AND THERE IS NOTHING, NOTHING SINCE THEN OTHER SINCE THEN.
JOE'S HAVING THIS, UM, WHAT INFORMATIONAL HE'S, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE FRIENDS OF PARKHOUSE AND TALK TO THEM AND HAVE A, AN INFORMAL MEETING WITH THEM ON THE 10TH.
SO, AND THEN, AND THAT IS WHAT JUST TO, I, I JOE AND, AND, AND, AND TORI SORT OF SET IT UP, IT'S REALLY JUST TO SORT OF RUN THROUGH WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROCESS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS AT MEETINGS TO MAYBE HELP THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT TO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SWAY ANYBODY'S OPINION, BUT TO JUST SORT OF GET A STATUS REPORT TO DO SOMETHING INFORMAL.
UM, IT'S LIKE A TRANSPARENCY YEAH.
YOU KNOW, JOE'S GONNA, THIS IS ALL WE KNOW TELLING YOU WHAT WE KNOW.
WHICH WILL BE EXACTLY THE SAME THING WE TALK ABOUT ON THE 16TH AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
I, I THINK THERE WAS JUST SOME DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN FRIENDS OF PARKHOUSE AND SOME OF THE SUPERVISORS TO DO THAT PRIOR.
AGAIN, I'M GOING TO THE MEETING, BUT I'M SORT OF CATCHING MYSELF BACK UP.
SO ON THE 16TH THERE WILL BE PUBLIC DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO, AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THAT POINT WILL DETERMINE IF THEY'RE GOING TO SEND THE ORDINANCE DRAFT THAT WE HAVE.
WE'VE HANDED OUT AT MEETINGS TO
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SEE IF THAT COMES TO US AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL OR NOT.THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA ANYTIME SOON.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS ON THE 16TH, IF THEY SENT IT, IF, IF THE BOARD SENDS IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I WOULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AS THE ONLY AGENDA ITEM FOR FEBRUARY 7TH.
I DON'T WANNA DO IT THE NEXT NIGHT.
YEAH, IT'S, AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER BUSINESS AND I DON'T NO, I AGREE.
WHEN IT'S PARK HOUSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU TEND TO WANNA HAVE THAT MEETING JUST FOR THAT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO WEIGH THAT AND SEE HOW THAT PROCESS MOVES FORWARD.
BUT, SO THEY WOULD NOT BE ON THE AGENDA TILL THE SEVENTH IF THEY SEND IT TO US.
WHICH I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL ON THE, WELL, I'LL SEE YOU ON THE 17TH SO I CAN LET YOU KNOW.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANT TO ASK ABOUT OR UPDATES ON OR EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT? I THINK SO.
I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, LOVER'S LANE, THEY RECEIVED STEEP SLOPE RELIEF FROM THE ZONING HEARING BOARD WITH CONDITIONS.
UM, SUE WAS THERE, SO
I HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEIR ATTORNEY TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS.
WAS THERE ANY PUSHBACK AT THE ZONING MEETING FROM ABSOLUTELY.
FROM ANY RESIDENCE? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WHAT DO YOU HEAR ABOUT THAT, NICOLE? ANYTHING? NOTHING.
AND THEY DID NOT NAME GILLEY'S REPLACEMENT YET.
SO THERE IS NO, AT THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE A BOARD OF FOUR.
BOARD OF FOUR AND THEY, UM, THEY HAVE SOME NAMES TO CONSIDER.
I'M, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE BOARD SUPERVISORS, THEY'LL DECIDE WHEN THEY DECIDE, BUT I THINK THEY TABLED IT TILL THE 16TH.
SO WE MAY HAVE SOMEONE BY THE 17TH.
THEY COULD GET DROPPED IN ON THE SEVENTH.
WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING? WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING? UH, I'LL TAKE A MEETING TO ADJOURN.