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READY, ANTHONY, YOU READY? READY, READY.
[CALL TO ORDER]
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA CALL, WE'RE GONNA CALL THE ORDER PLEASE.THE, UH, THE, UH, DECEMBER 6TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF UPPER PERFORM WISCONSIN.
UM, I THINK EVERYBODY GOT THE AGENDA.
UH, IF YOU DID AND THERE'S COPIES IN THE BACK, UH, WE'LL START OFF WITH, UH, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS. I'M NOT HEARING ANY, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON.
[GENERAL DISCUSSION ITEMS]
THERE ANY MINUTES TO APPROVE JEFF? THERE IS.UH, WE HAVE SEPTEMBER 6TH, SEPTEMBER 20TH, AND NOVEMBER 15TH.
WE GOT A LOT OF MINUTES TO APPROVE.
DID ANYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE MINUTES? THREE MINUTES BACK TO SEPTEMBER 6TH? I DON'T REMEMBER THAT FAR BACK, LEE.
SO, UH, IF NOT, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES, REVIEW IT AGAIN, YOU CAN DO THAT.
I THINK MOST OF THE MEETINGS WE'RE JUST ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO I'M LOOKING HERE AT THE ONE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TWO PAGES, SO YEAH.
UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR, UH, SIX 20TH AND 15TH.
AND, UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES, SIR.
ALRIGHT, WE GOT FIRST AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 6TH.
SEPTEMBER 20TH AND NOVEMBER 15TH.
[APPLICATIONS TO BE HEARD ON DECEMBER 6. 2023]
TO THE APPLICATION TO BE HEARD TONIGHT, UH, HERE ON DECEMBER 6TH.IT'S THE TO, UH, TOLL FULLY FINAL PLAN.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM THAT? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND, HI, GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME'S DEBRA SCHULSKY WITH THE FIRM O'REILLY, RIPER RECO HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
ALSO WITH ME, I HAVE OUR, UM, PROJECT ENGINEER JOHN ANO AND BRIAN THEIN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
I KNOW THIS PLANNING COMMISSION IS, UH, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU A NUMBER OF TIMES IN THE PAST.
UM, YOU'VE REVIEWED IT AS THE, UH, LI TENANT SKETCH PLAN, ALSO PRELIMINARY PLAN.
WE RECENTLY SUBMITTED OUR FINAL PLAN BACK IN AUGUST, AND THEN SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIRD PARTY PERMITTING.
UH, WE ALSO HAD TO PROCEED WITH SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVAL FOR SOME, UH, BASINS WITHIN THE STEEP SLOPES, WHICH WE RECEIVED.
AND THEN WE WERE WORKING THROUGH VARIOUS REVIEW LETTER COMMENTS FROM THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER.
WE HAVE RESUBMITTED THE PLANS, AND WE RECENTLY RECEIVED, UH, A RECENT REVIEW LETTER FROM THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER.
OUR CONSULTANTS HAVE BEEN, UM, ACTIVELY WORKING DIRECTLY WITH, WITH YOUR ENGINEERS, AND WE BELIEVE THE COMMENTS ARE ALL ESSENTIALLY WILL COMPLIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM REQUIRE SOME MORE, YOU KNOW, WORKING OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS.
BUT BASICALLY WE THINK THE PLAN IS IN A PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL WAIVER FROM WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED AT THE TIME OF PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL, UH, THAT IS NECESSITATED BY SOME CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE PLAN.
SO I CAN HAVE OUR ENGINEER GO THROUGH, UM, TALK ABOUT THAT WAIVER.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM THE REVIEW LETTER, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
HI, I'M JOHN ANO, UH, ESE CONSULTANTS, UH, ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, AS, AS MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
WE'VE GOT, UH, BEEN GRANTED SOME WAIVERS.
UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR ONE ADDITIONAL ONE.
I HAVE A LIEU OF POINTING OVER THERE.
UM, RITTENHOUSE ROAD BISECTS TO SITES, UH, ROAD A GOES UP TO THE NORTH, UM, UPHILL AND ROAD B COMES OFF OF THAT.
UM, THIS AREA IS QUITE, QUITE STEEP COMING UP EXISTING.
UM, AND WE HAVE A 4% GRADE AT THE BEGINNING, BUT THEN ROAD A, UM, INCREASES TO OVER 9%, NINE AND A HALF PERCENT JUST TO GET UP THE HILL WITHOUT HAVING TO DO TOO MUCH CUT.
UM, AND THAT AT THE INTERSECTION WE HAD A WAIVER TO GO 8% AT THIS INTERSECTION, AND ROAD B IS, IS FLAT ENOUGH.
ROAD A IS A THROUGH INTERSECTION, BUT 8% WASN'T ENOUGH UNFORTUNATELY.
AS WE GOT FURTHER INTO DESIGN, FURTHER INTO THE EARTHWORK NUMBERS, WE REALIZED WE NEED TO BRING THIS ROAD ROAD A UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
SO WE WERE ASKING FOR THE WAVE OF UP TO NINE, 9.5% FOR THIS SLOPE, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION.
AGAIN, ROAD A IS A THROUGH STREET NO STOPPING.
ROAD B IS A STOP CONTROLLED INTERSECTION.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT ONE'S FLATTER.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS REGARD REGARD TO WHY WE NEED
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THE WAIVER WE'RE ASKING FOR? WELL, YOU EXPLAINED THAT I, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.I'VE SEEN YOUR LETTER, ANTHONY, UM, THANK YOU FOR SENDING OUT A COUPLE DAYS EARLY.
UH, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU STILL HAD SOME QUESTIONS OR SOME COMMENTS THAT YOU WANTED CLARIFICATION ON IN THAT THING.
UH, YEAH, NOT WITH RESPECT TO THE WAIVER.
WE JUST ONE WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT IN, IN THE LETTER, UH, IF THE PREVIOUS, WELL, JUST ON THAT SUBJECT, THEN, BEFORE YOU GET TO THE OTHER SUBJECT, WHAT ABOUT THE WAIVER ON THE, ON THE ROAD? YEAH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC ISSUE WITH THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY 8% AS YOU MENTIONED.
YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR REASONS LIKE GRADING AND STUFF, THEY HAD TO INCREASE IT, WHICH, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND.
IT'S NOT A, AT A STOCK CONTROL LOCATION, AND AS YOU GET TO THE STOCK CONTROL WRITTEN HOUSE THAT DOES, UM, FLATTEN OUT LIKE 4% AND THEIR GRADES ARE FINE THERE.
SO NO, NO ISSUE ON THAT FROM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE WE HAD, I THINK OUTSTANDING HOUR INTERRUPT YOU.
BEFORE WE CHANGE SUBJECTS, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THE ROAD B APPROACH TO ROAD A I YOU WERE ASKING ME THAT.
I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S 4%, BUT LET ME DOUBLE CHECK.
YES, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THAT IS STOP CONTROL.
LET'S SEE, MY EYES, I HAVE A HALF SCALE PLAN, SO PARDON ME FOR A SECOND.
I WAS LIKE, MY EYES ADJUST TO THE SMALLER FONT.
UM, YEAH, WE WERE COMING DOWN TO ROAD B IS COMING DOWN 4%.
ACTUALLY IT IS 7% AND FLATTENS OUT TO 2% FLATTENS OUT THE STOP SIGN.
ANTHONY, WHAT ELSE? AGAIN, READING YOUR, YOUR LETTER, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU STILL HAD SOME QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR, YEAH, I THINK THE, I MEAN, THE OTHER, THE WAY WE SAW THE BIGGEST, UH, OTHER COMMENT REALLY REMAINING IS NUMBER FIVE REGARDING THE NUMBER FIVE OF OUR LETTER, PAGE THREE, UH, REGARDING PROVIDING A CROSSING, UM, WHAT WE CALL MID BLOCK AT THE CURRY AREA.
UM, SO WE HAD BEEN COORDINATING THIS, UH, LAST, LAST REVIEW.
THERE'S, THERE WAS SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE.
MM-HMM,
SO THE, I, THE IDEA ESSENTIALLY FOR US IS, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO ENSURE WITH ALL THE TRAIL CONNECTIVITY, UM, THE FLASH
AND WE FELT THAT THIS LOCATION WAS REQUIRED.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS, IT, IT WOULD BE A WILL WILL COMPLY, WHICH WE WOULD NOT HAVE ISSUE.
AND FOR REFERENCE ON THE PLAN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT LOT, ONE IS THE ONE THAT HE'S, WE'RE WHERE OUR SIDEWALK ENDS AND ACCESS TRAIL INTO THE TOWNSHIP PARK IS ACROSS THE STREET.
SO WE'RE GONNA EXTEND THE SIDEWALK ALONG THIS LITTLE BIT AND THEN PUT A CROSSING HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BACK WHEN WE DID THIS 1, 2, 3, WHATEVER, 5, 6, 8, 8 MONTHS AGO, WHATEVER WAS, TIME GOES SO FAST.
BUT, UM, I WAS ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCHOOL, ABOUT PJP, THAT IS THERE ANY CONCERN ANY LONGER? IS, ARE THEY FINE WITH ALL THE CROSSINGS AND THE STOP SIGNS? AND DOES EVERYTHING PJP HAS HAD ANY COMMENT AT ALL ON THIS, UH, ON THIS PLAN FROM ANYBODY? ANTHONY OR ANYBODY? YEAH, I KNOW WE, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FROM THE OUTSET, I GUESS CONNECTIVITY, YOU KNOW, TO THE MAXIMUM SET FEASIBLE ALONG WR HOUSE AND INTERNALLY.
UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS FROM THE SCHOOL, I GUESS ABOUT IT, BUT, UM, I THINK BASED ON ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS TO DATE, I, I THINK WE'VE PROVIDED, UM, A NICE WALKABLE CONNECTIONS.
I, IT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE MISSING ANYTHING ON HERE.
I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.
I, I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE PLAN.
I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO NEGOTIATE A, A SEWER EASEMENT THROUGH THERE FROM THE, FROM THE ARCHDIOCESE.
SO I, THAT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OBVIOUSLY, BUT, SO I THINK THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF THE PLAN.
WELL, YEAH, THEY'RE AWARE, BUT THEY HAD NO COMMENT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS OR THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC OR ADDITIONAL FOR THEIR SCHOOL BUSES OR ANYTHING.
JEN, WHAT ABOUT YOU? UH, YOU'VE GOT A LOT HERE.
JUST LET BIGGER STUFF THAT, YEAH, SO LAKE, AN LAKE ANTHONY, THE BIGGER ISSUES THAT EXIST ARE, UM, THE OFFSITE CONNECTIONS.
SO TRAIL, YOU HAVE ROAD C, WHICH IS THE TOP RIGHT OF THAT PLAN SHEET.
UM, TOWNSHIP OWNS LAND ABOVE THERE AND THERE'S BEEN A RECENT TRAIL CONSTRUCTION.
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SO THE SMILEY FACE, WHAT HE'S TRACING RIGHT NOW, THAT WAS ALWAYS ANTICIPATED TO BE THERE, THAT'S NOW BEEN CONSTRUCTED.SO THEY'RE GONNA GO OUT AND DO SOME ADDITIONAL SURVEY UP THERE, UM, TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS QUOTE UNQUOTE REAL ON THEIR PLAN.
UM, THERE'LL STILL BE THE CONNECTIONS FROM BOTH LOCATIONS, UM, BUT THEY'LL ADJUST IN LOCATION BASED ON THE, AS-BUILT OF THE EXISTING TRAIL THAT'S UP THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER OFFSITE CONNECTION IS IN THE LOWER HALF OF THE SHEET COMING OUT OF ROAD D I'M SORRY, E IF YOU RECALL, UM, THERE'S AN EMERGENCY ACCESS PROVIDED, UM, THROUGH THE HESS PROPERTY OUT TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING, IT'S JUST OFF THE SHEET HERE.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST AT THIS POINT MAKING IT REAL QUOTE UNQUOTE.
SO WE PUT ALL THIS IN, THAT'S THE APPROXIMATE ROUTE FOR IT AND UH, IT'S ALL GOOD OVER THERE.
AND THE STORMWATER ITEMS JUST COME, JUST COME THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE OUTSIDE AGENCY REVIEW WITH, UM, THE MPDS PERMIT AND THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
SO IT'S JUST GETTING EVERYTHING, UM, CONSISTENT.
AGAIN, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT.
SO JOE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO HERE? WELL, EVERYTHING ELSE IS, WELL COMPLY, SO I GUESS WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE FOR YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF FINAL.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT OR, YEAH, I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ACTUALLY PERTAIN THIS GENTLEMAN, THIS GENTLEMAN, THIS WOMAN, THIS GENTLEMAN AND THAT GENTLEMAN.
SO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
SEAN CONNOLLY, RESIDENT PLAINTIFF WITNESS, WHISTLEBLOWER, UH, I SUED THE TOWNSHIP, UPPER PROVIDENCE, BRIAN NAN, ESC ENGINEERS, JEFFREY GRACE AND, UH, JOE RESIDENT.
WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED? COLLEGEVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA, TOLL BROTHERS DEVELOPMENT.
OKAY, SO I OBJECT TO EVERYTHING THAT THESE GUYS ARE DOING.
IN THE LAST DEVELOPMENT THEY BUILT, THEY FRAUDULENTLY GENERATED PLANS, PERMIT APPLICATIONS, AND AS PROOF AND EVIDENCE AND FACTS OF THAT, MY HOME AND OTHER HOMES IN MY DEVELOPMENT.
OKAY? THEY REMOVED THE RIPLEY RYAN ATTORNEY THE LAST TIME I APPEARED AT THE TOWNSHIP AND CONFRONTED EVERYBODY.
OKAY? SO I WAS GONNA READ A PREPARED STATEMENT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.
OKAY? EACH OF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT.
ANYTHING YOU SAY AND DO WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU, OKAY? YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY.
JUST TO THE, YOU KNOW WHAT? AWARE, JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, HERE'S AN ADDEND COMPLAINT FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU.
YOU'RE ALL GONNA GET A COPY OF IT.
IT'S NOT GONNA GET THROWN OUTTA COURT.
JOE, THIS IS NOT RELATED TO JOE.
YOU'RE THE SUBJECT OF A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION, JUST LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN WE'RE OUTTA AND THIS GUY RIGHT HERE, I'M NOT ES C'S OWNED BY TOLL BROTHERS, OKAY? YOU GUYS ARE COMMITTING FRAUD IN EVERY BUILDING APPLICATION.
YEAH, CALL THE POLICE, OKAY? THEY'VE BEEN SUED TOO, AND SO HAVE YOU.
OKAY? EACH ONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE EXPOSED.
STOP TALKING AND CALLING THE POLICE.
YOU'RE GONNA CAPITULATE TO ME.
YOU ARE DISRUPTING EACH ONE OF YOU CAPITULATE.
YOU ARE ROBBING THESE RESIDENTS, YOU'RE STEALING FROM IT, AND YOU'RE A BUNCH OF FRAUDSTERS.
EVERY ONE OF YOU CALL THE POLICE.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT ON THE NEWS EVERY ONE OF YOU, JOE.
I'M SORRY THAT ANYBODY HERE WHO IS NOT FAMILIAR HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT.
UH, THERE'S A LAWSUIT AGAINST, I DON'T KNOW, 60 PEOPLE.
HE HAS, HE HAS TO FILE A NEW ONE.
I DON'T, HE LEFT SOMETHING BEHIND.
HE HASN'T DONE ANY OF IT THE RIGHT WAY.
THERE'S NO BASIS TO THE LAWSUIT.
UH, WELL, JUST, JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, HE, WHAT HE'S UPSET ABOUT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
HE HAS, HIS, HIS COMPLAINT IS AGAINST TOLL BROTHERS.
WELL, AGAINST ME AGAINST ALL OF THIS.
TOLL BROTHERS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE 60 DEFENDANTS.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVERY, IT IS A LONG LIST.
HE UP FOR PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
HE'S RESIDENT, TOWNSHIP RESIDENT.
BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PLAN.
IF YOU'RE GONNA GET UP AND MAKE A STATEMENT, THOUGH, PROBABLY AROUND, WE GOT THE POLICE ON CALL.
UM, COULD YOU CLARIFY JUST BY THE DIAGRAM ON THE VERY SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, ADJACENT TO BUCK WELD, THOSE AREAS THAT ARE GRAY IS, IS ALL THE, UM, UH, GREENERY
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AND TREES, ET CETERA, ARE GONNA BE MAINTAINED THERE? OR THEY'LL BE CLEARED? SOME OF IT WILL BE CLEARED.YEAH, THIS IS, THIS WILL BE REMAIN OPEN SPACE.
UH, THERE IS SOME MOUNDING IN HERE, SOME LANDSCAPING, UM, TRYING TO GIVE SOME PRIVACY.
THERE IS SOME, UM, BECAUSE THIS SECTION IS LIKE A RIDGE AND SOME OF THE EXISTING DRAINAGE GOES TO THE BACK, WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL THAT.
UM, AND SO WITH A SWALE AROUND AND, AND THE WATER WILL END UP IN THE BASIN, THERE'LL BE SOME LANDSCAPING AND SOME MOUNTING AND BI THROUGH HERE ALSO.
NOW I REMEMBER ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN, UH, ROAD C AND D, UH, THERE WAS, THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION ON TRAFFIC CONTROL AND CROSSWALKS, ET CETERA.
COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC PLAN? ARE THERE ANY LIGHTS OR IS THAT JUST A MEDIAN? WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? ACTUALLY, I AM NOT THE ENGINEER OF THAT PART.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
UM, BRIAN, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME.
I KNOW THERE'S CROSSWALKS, THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN, UM, FLASHING THAT FLASHING BEACON, FLASHING BEACON.
I GUESS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR THAT IS THAT, IS THAT AT, AT DIS CROSSING, NOT A TRAFFIC LIGHT, YOU'RE CLASHING BEACON AND THAT, THAT'S STILL PART OF THE POINT.
UM, AND THERE IS A, A COUPLE OF ISLANDS IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, SO WHEN AS A PEDESTRIAN CROSSES, THERE IS A, WHAT'S THE PROPER TERM? NOT A RESCUE ISLAND, SAFETY REFUGE ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE IF NEEDED.
UM, BEFORE THEY GO ACROSS ALL THE WAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PLEASE DON'T STAND UP.
WHAT'S THE APPROXIMATE SQUARE FOOT ON THE LOTS? THEY'RE LIKE, DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND THE AVERAGE? I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME.
THE AVERAGE IS 10,000 CALCULATED, BUT YOU COULD SEE SOME LARGER LOTS THAT PUSH THAT UP.
SO THE AVERAGE SMALL LOT IS LIKE, UH, 7,500 SQUARE FEET ON LIKE THE, THE TYPICAL SMALL RECTANGULAR LOTS.
THE AVERAGE FOR THE WHOLE JOB, LIKE I SAID, IS A LITTLE OVER 10,000.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, FEEDBACK? ANYONE? AJ YOU GOOD? BOB, YOU GOOD NOW? MM-HMM,
ALL RIGHT THEN I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION TO, UH, RECOMMEND THIS PROGRAM OR NOT TO RECOMMEND THIS PROGRAM.
WHOEVER WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO UH, UH, MOVE THAT, MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT STEP.
WE, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH FEES.
OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAN REC, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO THE SUPERVISORS.
UM, THERE'S NO ONE ELSE HERE, SO I GUESS IT'S PASSED.
[DISCUSSION: FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
WE'RE DOWN TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THERE, JEFF.AND UH, UM, I SEE YOU GOT A LOT PLANNED OUT THERE.
ANYTHING COMING UP THIS MONTH? NO.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE IS ALWAYS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ISSUES WE CAN TALK ABOUT, BUT I THINK BEING SO APPROXIMATE TO CHRISTMAS, I THINK WE, IT IS BEST IF WE PUSH THAT OFF TO, UH, JANUARY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT OR COMMENTS TO THAT? I WANTED TO COME.
YOU WANTED TO COME SEE? ALRIGHT, WELL WE COME.
UM, SO CANCELING THAT MEETING? UH, I, I'M NOT SURE.
I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I THINK BILL, DID YOU WATCH HIM LEAVE? BILL? WATCH WHAT? YES.
DID YOU WATCH HIM LEAVE? SORRY, ALARM.
BACK TO NORMAL TO SEE IF WE HAVE, UM, SO WE COULD CANCEL.
WE, I THINK CANCELING THE 20TH WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO HAVE THAT MEETING.
UM, WE WILL EITHER GET BACK, WE'LL HAVE REORGANIZATION ON JANUARY 3RD I THINK.
WE'LL PROB SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MEETING.
WE MIGHT HAVE, UM, PROVIDENCE TOWN CENTER APARTMENTS FOR THEIR FINAL PLAN REVIEW.
THEY'RE INCREASE IN APARTMENTS.
THAT'S THE ONE WHERE THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE HOTEL TO APARTMENT BUILDING.
SO THAT MIGHT BE THAT MEETING AS WELL.
UM, JUST TO ONLY HAVE THAT ON THERE BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ON IT, A LITTLE BIT
AND UM, THEN THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT WOULD BE JANUARY 17TH AND, AND WE'LL SORT OF HAVE TO LEAVE THAT ONE UP IN THE AIR FOR THE TIME BEING.
SO, UH, WE, JEFF JUST EXPLAINED THAT, UH, AJ OR BOB WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE, UH, 20TH MEETING.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO CANCEL DECEMBER 20TH MEETING.
AJ HAS MADE A MOTION TO CANCEL DECEMBER 20TH.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
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A MINOR CAVEAT THERE.THE BOARD HASN'T APPROVED OUR MEETING SCHEDULE.
THEY WILL NOT APPROVE OUR MEETING SCHEDULE UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING THEY'RE MEETING ON THE SECOND.
NOW I'M GONNA PUT THE AGENDA OUT THERE WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE STAYING ON WEDNESDAYS.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CHANGE FROM WEDNESDAYS THE FIRST AND THE THIRD LIKE WE ARE, UNLESS WE HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE THAT WE WANNA DO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER DAYS WE WOULD, WE COULD GO TO, UH, HONESTLY, 'CAUSE THE CALENDAR'S PRETTY FULL FOR THE TOWNSHIP, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PRO, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WEDNESDAY.
RIGHT? I DON'T THINK WE, OKAY.
YES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT MEETING, BUT IT PROBABLY, YOU'LL PROBABLY GET THE AGENDA LAST MINUTE.
BUT I'LL KEEP YOU ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
WELL COULD FOR THE NEXT AGENDA, COULD YOU PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE A GENTLEMAN LIKE THAT, COULD YOU PLEASE, PLEASE PUT THAT ON THERE?
WELL THEN, UM, A GOOD SHORT MEETING,
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T GIVEN OUR MONEY'S WORTH TONIGHT, BUT, UH, UH, ANYBODY, ANYTHING ELSE EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE, UH, LUNCHEON NEXT FRIDAY? THANK YOU.
YOU PROBABLY CAN'T MAKE THAT WORK, RIGHT? CHECK.
NEXT FRIDAY WE'LL BE HAPPY TO.
IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? OH, I THOUGHT YOU RAISED YOUR HAND.