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ALL[CALL TO ORDER]
RIGHT.UM, LET'S, UH, LET'S GET STARTED.
[APPROVE AGENDA]
AGENDA, I THINK JEFF PUT ON AN AGENDA.UM, SO, UH, FIRST OF ME A BUSINESS WOULD BE JUST TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT IT, BUT RIGHT NOW, YEAH.
AND I, I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA, SUE'S GONNA TALK FOR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROGRAMS AND, AND HOW TO RUN PROGRAMS. CAUSE THAT'S, I THINK ONE OF OUR BIG QUESTIONS IS HOW DO WE ACTUALLY PUT A PROGRAM TOGETHER? UM, AND THEN THE, THEN AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH, HAVING YOUR PROGRAM PRIORITIES AND WHAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO.
AND THEN WE'LL SORT OF SEE HOW WE FARE FROM THERE.
WELL, ONE THING THAT IS DONE ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, UM, EVERYBODY WAS GONNA COME WITH A COUPLE IDEAS OF THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD IMPLEMENT QUICKLY.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM PRIORITIES FOR.
THAT MADE SOUND A LITTLE MORE, YEAH, YOU HAVE IT.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT.
YES, I WAS GONNA ASK SOMEBODY.
THEY MAY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
UM, SO ANYHOW, APPROVE THE AGENDA.
TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FROM TODAY.
NO, THEY SAY THAT'S THE MINUTES.
THIS IS THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE MARIA FOR TONIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND BILL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS]
OKAY.[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UH, MINUTES ARE, UH, ATTACHED.YES, THEY'RE, AND, UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ, TAKE A SECOND.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS, UH, ADDITIONS, SUBTRACTIONS, MISINFORMATION ON THE MINUTES? IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A, UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM YOU SAY MAY 17TH.
SO WHO
SO WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MAY 17TH.
JEFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THOSE.
MY, I KNOW PATTY IS JUST PATTY.
WE TALKS, WE TALKED A LOT AT THE COURSE SHOW.
SHE'S JUST, THAT LOOK MEAN, IT LOOKS REALLY NICE.
AND EVERYTHING'S VERY ORGANIZED.
PATTY TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO SHES, SHE IS, I'LL HAVE TO GO GIVE HER A HEAD.
[2. General Discussion on Programs with Sue Hoffman, UPT Director of Parks and Recreation]
YES.UM, SO WE GOT A GUEST HERE TONIGHT AND WE ALL APPARENTLY ALL KNOW SUE.
I, WE MIGHT HAVE HEARD THAT APPRECIATE ACTUALLY AT ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS.
I WAS GONNA SAY YOU LOOK VERY FAMILIAR.
SO, UH, WE HAVE, AND YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT PROGRAM PROGRAMS AND EVENTS AND EVENTS.
THIS IS JUST A QUICK PACKET THAT I MADE.
THIS IS NOT THE PROGRAM OR EVENT BIBLE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
BUT THIS IS VERY SIMILAR OR ON POINT TO HOW MY DEPARTMENT RUNS PROGRAMS AND EVENTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS ON HERE, BUT AS AN OVERVIEW, THIS IS BIG EVENT STUFF.
LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO DO SOMETHING FOR EARTH DAY, LET'S JUST SAY THIS IS MORE OF HOW YOU WOULD GO ABOUT DOING THAT.
THIS IS BRIEFLY ON PROGRAMS. UM, BUT YOU CAN TAKE A LOT OF THE BIG STEPS OUT FOR YOUR PROGRAM.
BUT THIS IS A GOOD OVERVIEW FOR BOTH ON HOW TO FIRST START LOOKING INTO HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT.
UM, I BASE THIS OFF OF BASICALLY LIKE OUR FALL FEST.
LIKE THIS IS STEP BY STEP HOW WE GET FALL FEST OFF THE GROUND AND RUNNING.
SO, UM, THE FIRST BIG THING, AND I WON'T RUN THROUGH THIS ENTIRE THING, YOU GUYS CAN ALL READ ON THIS, BUT, UM, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE BIG HEADERS.
UM, THE EVENT PURPOSE, THE MAIN THING IS TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER EVENT OR PROGRAM YOU'RE DOING, YOU HAVE A PURPOSE FOR DOING.
IT'S NOT JUST SAYING, WE JUST WANNA HAVE A GET TOGETHER.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF GETTING TOGETHER? IF IT'S FOR EARTH DAY, IS YOUR PURPOSE TO BE ABLE TO HAND OUT TREES? IS YOUR PURPOSE TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON MS FOUR? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT EVENT? ONCE YOU DEFINE THAT PURPOSE, THEN YOU CAN START ASKING ALL THOSE OTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, AND YOU CAN GET INTO WHO DO WE WANT ON THE EVENT COMMITTEE.
WHAT I'VE HAD TO LEARN THROUGH A LOT OF TRIAL AND ERROR AND A LOT OF HARDSHIP IS THAT YOU WANT A COMMITTEE THAT'S
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AS INTO THE EVENT AS YOU ARE.YOU WANT PEOPLE THAT HAVE STAKE IN THE GAME.
SO SIMILAR TO LIKE HOW WE HAVE THE WALLET HEELS, WE HAVE A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.
THERE'S SOMEONE AT THE TOP AND THEN THERE'S FIVE PEOPLE, NO MORE THAN FIVE UNDERNEATH THAT PERSON THAT HAS VERY, UM, NOT STRICT, BUT THEY HAVE VERY INVOLVED RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THOSE FIVE PEOPLE, THOSE PEOPLE CAN HAVE FIVE PEOPLE.
AND THEN THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WORKING ON ONE SOLE PROJECT.
CUZ AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, FOR THE COMMITTEE, IT'S THE LOCATION VENUE COORDINATOR.
AND THERE'S THINGS THAT COME UNDERNEATH THAT.
THERE'S THE PROGRAM AND ACTIVITY COORDINATOR THAT CAN BE YOUR FOOD, YOUR VENDORS.
UM, THAT CAN ALSO BE FOR LIKE AN EARTH DAY EVENT.
ARE YOU GONNA HAVE WILTONS COME AND PUT UP A TABLE FOR, UM, TREE EDUCATION OR PLANT EDUCATION, INVASIVE SPECIES? UM, IT CAN ALSO BE LIKE IT'S EARTH DAY EVENT.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BOUNCE HOUSE SO KIDS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO.
IT'S ALL OF THOSE LITTLE ORGANIZATIONAL THINGS.
UM, BIG THING WOULD BE A MARKETING COORDINATOR.
UM, MAKING SURE THEY KNOW HOW TO WRITE A MARKETING TIMELINE AND A FRAME POINT TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA START MARKETING THIS TWO MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME.
THIS IS WHAT OUR FLYER LOOKS LIKE.
THIS IS WHAT OUR LOGO'S GONNA BE.
SO IF WE GET ANY SWAG AND GIVEAWAYS OR PAMPHLETS, IT ALL LOOKS COHESIVE.
SO THAT'S A BIG ROLE FOR THAT ONE MARKETING PERSON.
SO THEY CAN HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE UNDERNEATH THEM TO HELP THEM ESTABLISH ALL THOSE THINGS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOLELY THAT PERSON, BUT THEY WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE DAY, RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ASPECT.
UM, FOR STUFF LIKE, UM, FALL FEST, WE HAVE A BUSINESS CENTER, OR WE CALL 'EM JUST VENDORS WHERE WE HAVE A HUNDRED TO 115 LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT COME OUT JUST TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS TO SHOWCASE THAT THEY'RE HERE.
THEY'RE CHIROPRACTORS, THEY'RE DAYCARES.
THERE'RE UM, SOMETIMES THERE ARE CHURCHES AND UM, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT COME OUT.
BUT YOU WANT ONE SPECIFIC GROUP THAT'S REALLY DETAIL ORIENTED THAT CAN HANDLE HANDLING THAT.
UM, CUZ I CAN GET OUTTA HAND VERY FAST.
AND THEN, UM, MY FINAL ONE WAS THE VOLUNTEER AND STAFFING COORDINATOR FOR YOUR EVENT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU NEED? HOW BIG AN EVENT? IS IT, DO YOU NEED VOLUNTEERS? DO YOU HAVE PAID STAFF THAT WILL BE THERE TO RUN IT? UM, CONSIDERATIONS THERE VOLUNTEERS ARE REALLY GREAT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO, THEY CAN BE VERY FLAKY IN MY EXPERIENCE.
SO YOU OUGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER'S HANDLING THE VOLUNTEERS AND STAFFING, UM, HAS A STRONG PERSONALITY THAT CAN MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE ARE, THEY HAVE STAKE IN THE GAME AND THEY'RE GONNA SHOW UP AND THAT THEY'RE TRAINED BEFORE THE EVENT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.
AND AGAIN, I'M JUST, JUST MM-HMM.
SO WHO APPROVES THAT? SO WHO APPROVES THAT? SO THAT'S THE DEPARTMENT HEAD.
SO NO ONE ON STAFF AT THE TOWN TRIP CAN SAY THEY'RE GONNA SIGN UP TO WORK FOR ANY OF MY EVENTS UNLESS THEY HAVE DEPARTMENT HEAD APPROVAL.
AND THEN THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL FIGURE OUT IF THEY HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET TO PAY THAT PERSON.
SO IF THE, IF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD SAYS, I DON'T HAVE NO BUDGET, OR I HAVE NO BUDGET LEFT MM-HMM.
AND FOR THE MOST PART, ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS PUT IN A DECENT BONUS TIME BUDGET SIMILAR TO LIKE HOW PUBLIC WORKS THEY HAVE TO PUT IN OVERTIME FOR ALL THE SNOW PLOWING THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO AND ANY EMERGENCY SITUATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO CLEAR ROADS, ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO FOR THE MOST PART, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY SNOW PLOWING, YOU CAN GUARANTEE ALL THOSE GUYS ARE AT EVERY EVENT CUZ THEY DIDN'T GET ANY OVERTIME YET.
SO IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S, IT'S NICE AND I APPRECIATE HAVING STAFF HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA WORK AS HARD AS I'M GOING TO TO MAKE SURE THAT EVENT'S GOING WELL.
AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN ANY EVENT MM-HMM.
GRANDKIDS COMING HOME FOR BIRTHDAY PARTY YEAR.
SO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LESS, LESS RELIABLE.
AND UM, SO THAT'S ALWAYS A BIG, BIG PART OF A, OF A, OF AN EVENT.
SO IT'S NICE WHEN YOU HAVE THE STAFF AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE INCENTIVIZED BY BEING PAID.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE, THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE, THEY'RE GONNA COME, THEY'RE GONNA DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO, THEY'RE GONNA WORK LIKE THEY, IT'S A NORMAL WORK.
AND THERE ARE SOME OF OUR STAFF THAT CHOOSE TO COME TO THE EVENT JUST TO VOLUNTEER.
LIKE IF THEY'RE ON STAFF, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET PAID AND THEY
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DON'T.IT JUST DEPENDS ON THAT INDIVIDUAL.
UM, SO THE THIRD BIG KEY THING IS AFTER YOU GET YOUR COMMITTEE TOGETHER ON THE EVENT, AND THE PURPOSE IS WHERE IS IT GONNA BE? WHAT IS THE EVENT? WHAT KIND OF LOCATION DO YOU NEED? IF IT'S AN EARTH DAY EVENT, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE IT IN AN ENVIRONMENTAL SPACE, LIKE BACK HERE AT BLACKROCK THAT THERE'S A TRAIL.
SO YOU'RE OUT OF THE WAY, YOU'RE NOT ON CONCRETE PER SE.
YOU'RE OUT IN AN ENVIRONMENT FOR SOMETHING LIKE FALL FEST FOR US, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE IT OVER ON THE BLACKTOP FOR VENDORS BECAUSE THEY CAN BE HERE, RAIN OR SHINE, THEY'RE ON BLACKTOP, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SINK IN THEM MUD.
DOES YOUR, UM, LOCATION HAVE PARKING? DO YOU NEED POWER? DO YOU NEED VISIBILITY FROM THE ROAD? UM, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF EVENT IT IS.
IS IT A 5K TO RAISE MONEY FOR, UM, AN ENVIRONMENTAL CAUSE TO RAISE MONEY TO PUT MORE TREES INTO THE TOWNSHIP? THEN MAYBE YOU NEED A BETTER TRAIL SYSTEM.
SO YOU'RE GONNA FIND A TRAIL, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST MAKING SURE YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE ARE INGREDIENTS WITH WHERE YOU WANT IT.
AND THEN HOW DO YOU GET IT? DO YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT LOCATION? DO YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO HAVE IT ON THAT LOCATION? ALL THOSE KIND OF SIDE DETAILS THAT SOMEONE FROM THE TOWNSHIP FOR ANYTHING YOU GUYS DO.
WE WOULD ASSIST IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS IN PLAN.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THIS, THERE'S SOMEONE, UM, WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP THAT WANTS TO DO A, UM, SCHUYLKILL RIVER CLEANUP.
THEY JUST BROUGHT TO THE TOWNSHIP'S ATTENTION LAST WEEK AND IT'S A NEXT WEEK EVENT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING.
SO THE MORE WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, AND BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE PART OF THE TOWNSHIP AS IS, I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD INVOLVE US SOONER, BUT LET US HELP BECAUSE WE CAN FAST TRACK A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.
OR WE ALREADY HAVE CONNECTIONS FOR A LOT OF THESE THINGS.
WHEN YOU DO A SCHULE RIVER CLEANUP, HOW DOES THAT, WHO, HOW DOES THAT GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY? SO FOR THE MOST PART ON YOUR MARKETING PLAN, IF IT'S TOWNSHIP BASED, WE'LL HAVE IT IN THE E-NEWS.
WE'LL HAVE IT IN THE PRINTED NEWSLETTER.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE ADEQUATE TIME.
WE CAN HAVE ALL THOSE IN THE NEWSLETTERS.
WE HAVE IT ON THE E-SIGN FOR THE MOST PART, FOR BIG EVENTS, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE 4 22 LIGHT UP BILLBOARDS AS WELL AS THE WEGMANS L E D SIGN.
SO WE CAN HAVE IT ON THOSE OUTLETS AS WELL.
AND THEN WE DO SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.
EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE TOWNSHIP HAS THEIR OWN FACEBOOK PAGE.
SO ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS JUST SHARE.
CUZ GENERALLY IF I DO AN EVENT, I DON'T, BUT
UM, IF WE HAVE AN EVENT, I INVOLVE EVERYBODY.
THEY JUST COPY AND SHARE AND THEN IT'S WORD OF MOUTH.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE FACEBOOK PAGES AND IT'S YOUR EVENT, YOU BETTER BE SHARING IT, GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT WAY AS WELL.
SO, SO FOR INSTANCE, THE SCUBA RIVER CLEANUP GROUP MM-HMM.
BUT BUT THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT A TOWNSHIP EVENT.
WERE THEY, THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAD TO CONTACT US.
IT WAS, IT WAS PURELY INNOCENT OF, WE DON'T KNOW THE PROPER PROCEDURES TO GO TO TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL.
AND FOR SOMEONE, UM, FOR SOMEONE FROM THE UM, COMMUNITY TO DO THAT, WE SEE ALL THESE RED FLAGS AS YOU'RE GONNA BE IN KAYAKS, POSSIBLY OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHULE CLEANING UP THE WATER ITSELF.
WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS? THERE'S NO CONTINGENCY PLAN.
LIKE IT'S ALL THOSE LITTLE THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE SPONSORED BY THE TOWNSHIP.
WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT HAVE THE PROPER, THEY JUST REACHED OUT TO YOU TO, SO WHEN THEY CLAIM THAT WHEN THEY PLANNED THAT PARTICULAR EVENT, THEY ALREADY HAD PEOPLE LINED UP.
APPARENTLY THEY, WHEN THEY CAME TO YOU AND SAYS, HEY, WE ALREADY GOT A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DO THIS.
CAN WE DO IT RIGHT? HOW DO WE DO IT? RIGHT.
AND THEN I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT A DUMPSTER ON TOWN OF PROPERTY.
THAT THAT'S WHY THEY NEEDED A PURPOSE.
AND THEN THEY ALSO NEED SOMETHING FROM COUNTY SAYING THAT IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO HOST THAT MANY PEOPLE ON COUNTY PROPERTY TO DO A SPECIFIC THING.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT AS EASY JUST GRABBING FIVE OF YOUR FRIENDS AND GO KAYAKING AND CLEANING OUT THE WATER.
I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE ADVERTISING THERE'S A HUNDRED PLUS PEOPLE ALL IN THE WATER IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE JUST BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING IT SAFELY.
SO WHAT ARE SINUS AND THE WATERSHED? MM-HMM.
WELL, AND THE TOWNSHIP'S NOTIFIED ANYTIME THERE IS A, ANY SORT OF LARGE EVENT, WHETHER IT IS AT THE EXPO CENTER AND THAT'S ALL INTERNAL.
UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TAKES IT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE ARE ALWAYS NOTIFIED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY ALWAYS WANNA KNOW WHEN THERE'S GONNA BE A LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN A CERTAIN AREA A, SO THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND B, SO THAT THEY CAN BE READY FOR EMS OR ANY EVENTUALITY BAD THING THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY GO THROUGH AND THEY'LL TALK, YOU KNOW, UM, ROUTES, SAFE ROUTES TO GET IN AND OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR WAY FOR THEM TO
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GET IN AND OUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND, AND EVACUATION ROUTE AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT EVERYBODY'S SORT OF ON THE SAME PAGE.UM, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVEN IF WE'RE RUNNING A SMALL EVENT AS SMALL AS A, AS A TREE PLANTING EXERCISE OR JUST AN EDUCATIONAL THING THAT THE TOWNSHIP HAS BOUGHT IN AND THAT THE TOWNSHIP KNOWS ABOUT IT, MAYBE FIRE AND EMS JUST NEED TO NOTIFY, BE NOTIFIED JUST SO THEY KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE 50 PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING.
BUT IT'S, IT IS, YOU KNOW, THIS LEVEL OF ORGANIZATION HELPS US KNOW THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING ON.
WHETHER OR NOT IT RISES THE LEVEL OF NEEDING A VENDOR FOR FOOD OR MM-HMM.
EVEN IF IT'S JUST THIS GIVES US A GOOD PARAMETERS JUST TO SAY, LOOK, HERE'S HOW WE SORT OF WORK THE PROGRAM OUT.
AND YEAH, I MEAN IF IT, IF ITS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INVITING PEOPLE BEYOND JUST OUR SMALL CIRCLE OF FRIENDS EXACTLY.
AND THEN WE CAN HELP YOU WITH IT.
WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S GETTING PROMOTED.
ESPECIALLY CUZ YOU GUYS ARE A TOWNSHIP BOARD, YOU KNOW.
WELL EVEN IF WE'RE NOT DOING IT AS AN EAC ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION THAT NOW COMES TO MIND IS HOW, HOW DOES THIS COMMITTEE WORK WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE? THAT THERE ARE PIECE THAT YOU WORK WITH? WELL, THE NICE THING ABOUT YOUR COMMITTEE IS MY BESTIE OVER HERE IS ON MY BOARD.
SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT, SHE CAN BRING TO YOUR COMMITTEE.
I CAN ALWAYS COME TO THESE MEETINGS, WHICH IS FINE.
UM, I'M NOT AS ENVIRONMENTALLY EDUCATED AS SARAH WAS, BUT I CAN AT LEAST HELP YOU PUT ON WELL NONE OF US ARE EITHER
WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT.
WE HAVE THE CONNECTION EVERYBODY, BUT BILL, BILL, BILL I'M LEARNING TOO.
BUT I ALSO HAVE SOME OF THE CONNECTIONS MAYBE WITH THE WATERSHEDS AND THE CONSERVANCIES AND YOU KNOW, THE SCA AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET THINGS MOVING FASTER THAN, THAN YOU MIGHT HAVE.
BUT, UM, WELL IT'S FUNNY TOO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN SINCE I GOT INVOLVED WITH THE EAC, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF GOING ON.
OH IT'S, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST COINCIDENTAL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE ENVIRONMENTAL WE'VE IN A GOOD AREA FOR IT, I FEEL TOO.
CERTAINLY WITH THE TWO WATERWAYS.
I FEEL LIKE LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS.
THAT'S A THING TOO WITH THE CLEANUPS AND ALL THAT.
THERE'S ALL, THERE'S ONES THAT GO INTO EVERY YEAR MM-HMM.
UM, SO THAT BRINGS ME TO THE EVENT TIME OF YEAR AND WHEN YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT DATE SET.
UM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, FROM THE CLEANUPS THAT WE'VE DONE AS A DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SCA AND WATERSHED ON THE BEST TIME OF YEAR IS TO DO CLEANUP IS EITHER FALL OR END OF WINTER, EARLY SPRING BEFORE THE FOLIAGE COMES IN.
ONCE EVERYTHING STARTS GROWING, YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.
SO IT'S BETTER TO GET IN THERE.
IT MIGHT BE COLDER, IT MAY BE LESS COMFORTABLE, BUT YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT MORE.
YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET A LOT MORE NO BUGS, LESS BUGS,
UM, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS, IS DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF EVENT IT IS, IF IT'S AN INDOOR PROGRAM LIKE A RAINBOW OR WORKSHOP, WHICH IS ONE OF MY EXAMPLES IN THE BACK, WE COULD DO THAT WHENEVER.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A TIME OF YEAR SENSITIVITY.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO IF YOU'RE GONNA DO AN EARTH DAY THING, THAT'S ONE SPECIFIC DAY OF THE YEAR THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
SO IT'S JUST WHEN YOU'RE CR CREATING THE EVENT, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A GOOD TIMELINE OF WHEN YOU WANT TO HAVE IT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, IS MAKING SURE YOU HAVE SOMEONE ON YOUR TEAM THAT'S GOOD AT SLEUTHING.
UM, THAT'S WHAT MELISSA AND MY TEAM IS AMAZING FOR.
SHE'LL GO THROUGH FACEBOOK ALL DAY AND FIND EVERY SINGLE EVENT OR PROGRAM THAT IS GOING ON THE DAY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE IN COMPETITION OF.
OR MAYBE INSTEAD OF US DOING IT, MAYBE WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM CUZ IT'S THE SAME THING.
SO WE TRY TO WORK IT THAT WAY TOO.
UM, THE EVENT PLAN, UM, IS BASICALLY GETTING YOUR TIMELINE DOWN.
WHEN DO YOU NEED THINGS BY? WHAT DATES DO YOU WANT YOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO HAVE THINGS TO YOU BY, UM, HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS OR STAFFING DO YOU NEED FOR THE EVENT? UM, HOW OFTEN IS YOUR COMMITTEE GONNA MEET ABOUT IT? UM, HAVING A PRE-EVENT, MEETING WITH YOUR STAFF, HAVING A POST-EVENT MEETING AND SURVEY COMPLETED.
THAT WAY YOU HAVE A NICE CHECKLIST GOING ON WELL BEFORE THE
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EVENT, UM, EVEN COMES INTO EXISTENCE OF EXACTLY HOW YOU'RE GONNA EXECUTE IT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S CHECKED OFF BEFORE THE EVENT.BECAUSE THE WORST THING IS THE DAY BEFORE THE EVENT AND YOU WERE RUNNING AROUND LIKE A MAD PERSON TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE THAT DAY BECAUSE YOU FORGOT OR YOU PROCRASTINATED THE TWO MONTHS THAT YOU HAD PRIOR.
UM, FINANCE IS A HUGE PART OF ANY OF THE PROGRAMS. GIVEN THE SMALLEST PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, DO YOU HAVE A BUDGET? WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? DO YOU NEED SPONSORS? DO YOU NEED IT TO BE, UM, GRANT FUNDED? UM, IF YOU ARE GETTING MONEY FROM PEOPLE, HOW ARE YOU GETTING IT? DO YOU HAVE A SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THE MONEY INTO OR ARE YOU JUST GETTING CHECKS? OR WHO ARE YOU GIVING THOSE TO? UM, WHO'S ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT MONEY? HOW DO YOU RUN SOMETHING LIKE THE WALL THAT HEALS MM-HMM.
SO THOSE ALL BECOME CHARITABLE MM-HMM.
I MEAN, DOES THAT RUN THROUGH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT? DOES IT, DO YOU KEEP IT AS A SEPARATE ACCOUNT? NOPE.
IT'S, IT'S ON OUR REGISTRATION SOFTWARE.
SO WE HAVE A DONATIONS BUTTON THAT YOU CAN HIT.
IT'S, IT'S INTERNAL SO WE HAVE TO DO IT, BUT UM, WE HAVE A DONATION SECTION OF OUR WEBSITE, OF OUR REGISTRATION SOFTWARE.
AND THEN THOSE REPORTS GO TO FINANCE.
SO YOU HAVE TO RUN SOMETHING THROUGH A GRANT.
ARE THERE GRANT WRITERS STAFF? YOU HAVE SOME.
TECHNICALLY I WOULD SAY YOU'LL RUN STAFF.
RIGHT? WELL ACTUALLY AT THE LAST, AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING JUST ON MONDAY, THEY, UM, THE BOARD APPROVED THE USE OF DELTA DEVELOPMENTAL DELTA SOMETHING.
IT'S A GRANT WRITING ORGANIZATION.
I THINK WHO POLICE USES, I THINK THAT'S WHO THE POLICE AREN'T USING NOW.
THE TAN TRIED TO USE, USE THEM ABOUT 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO BEFORE TIM AND BEFORE EVERYBODY WAS INVOLVED.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WAS, BUT THEY ARE A GOOD ORGANIZATION IN TERMS OF, THEY KIND OF DO A SOUP TO NUTS THING.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO EVERYTHING AND THEY'LL TRACK, THEY'LL HELP YOU TRACK THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF IT SO THAT YOU CAN GET PAID AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW GRANTS WORK NECESSARILY FOR THE SMALLER, FOR JUST RUNNING PROGRAMS. THE GRANTS THEY'RE PROBABLY TYPICALLY RUNNING ARE BIGGER, YOU KNOW, LIKE PARK GRANTS OR ROAD IMPROVEMENT GRANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT NOW THAT THEY'RE ON STAFF, I DON'T, NOT ON STAFF, BUT THEY SHOULD BE.
BUT BECAUSE, LIKE, SIMILAR TO LIKE THE RAINBOW WORKSHOP, WE DID DO ONE A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND ALL OF THOSE BARRELS WERE, WE, WE WON A GRANT TO BUY THOSE BARRELS.
SO THE PROGRAM WAS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE TO TAKE.
SO WE JUST PAID FOR THE INSTRUCTOR.
SO WHO PAID OR WHO APPLIED FOR THAT GRANT? UM, SARAH DID, I BELIEVE.
AND HOW ABOUT LIKE, YEAH, ALL THE BIG GRANTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE ROAD IMPROVEMENT STUFF THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE OR THAT'S EITHER BY THIS COMPANY OR GILMORE HAS DONE.
YEAH, GILMORE DOES MOST OF MINE.
GILMORE MCMAHON, WHICH IS NOW ALSO CALLED BOWMAN.
UM, THE, THE, THE CONSULTANTS THAT I GO THROUGH MY DEPARTMENT AND HER DEPARTMENT, UM, THEY TEND TO WRITE A LOT OF THEM.
AND I, I DON'T MEAN THIS TO BE INSULTING, THEY'RE A LITTLE SELF-SERVING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE WRITING GRANTS FOR THEM TO USE.
I THINK FOR OUR, FOR OUR WORLD, THE GRANTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD USE TO PUT ON PROGRAMS, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT AS INVOLVED.
BUT IF THERE'S A PROJECT AND YOU SEE A GRANT OUT THERE AND YOU KNOW OF A PROJECT THAT YOU THINK FITS FOR THAT GRANT, CERTAINLY BRING IT TO US AND WE CAN WORK WITH GILMORE DELTA NOW AND, AND MOVE THAT FORWARD TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I LIKE THAT BARREL MAKING THING.
THAT JUST SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE FUN.
NO, IT'S GONNA BE, THE LAST ONE WE DID WAS REALLY WELL ATTENDED AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO THAT AGAIN.
AND IS THAT WITH THE UH, PERGA AND WATERSHED PEOPLE? MM-HMM.
SO, SO, AND THEN IT'S THE EVENT MARKETING.
AGAIN, YOU WANT SOMEONE ON YOUR TEAM THAT'S SLIGHTLY CREATIVE THAT CAN CREATE A EITHER DECENT LOOKING LOGO OR AT LEAST A FLYER THAT CATCHES THE EYE.
YOU DON'T WANT A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE FLYER.
YOU WANT A COOL IMAGE ON THERE.
AND THEN A SOLID COLOR THAT HAS EASY TO READ WRITING IN VERY BASIC INFORMATION.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE, THE BACK ON THE PERCU AND WATERSHED ONE THAT I PUT ON THERE FOR YOU GUYS.
THERE'S A QR CODE THAT SENDS YOU ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION.
CUZ YOU DON'T NEED THAT ON YOUR FLYER.
IF YOU PUT TOO MUCH WORDS ON IT, NO ONE'S GONNA READ IT.
UM, THE BIG THING WOULD BE IS THE TIMELINE FOR WHOEVER'S DOING YOUR MARKETING.
YOU DON'T WANNA MARKET IT OR PUSH IT TOO FAR IN ADVANCE CUZ PEOPLE FORGET.
SO IF IT IS, UM, A EARTH DAY THING IN APRIL, YOU PROBABLY WANNA START PUSHING OUT MARKETING IN FEBRUARY.
LIKE START YOUR FIRST MARKETING, MAKE AN EVENT PAGE ON FACEBOOK
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AND THEN START PUSHING THINGS OUT.UM, YOU CAN MAKE SURE OUR REGISTRATION SOFTWARE IS READY FOR IT.
WE CAN DO EMAIL BLASTS THROUGH THERE.
UM, BUT IT'S USUALLY LIKE A FEW WEEKS OUT AND THEN YOU REALLY GRAB THE PEOPLE BECAUSE NOW IT'S TODAY INSTEAD OF, OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING IN TWO MONTHS.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE JUST PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SAME WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS.
UM, EVENT LEAD UP, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR PRE-EVENT MEETING.
UM, THIS CAN BE A WEEK IN ADVANCE.
THIS CAN BE A COUPLE DAYS IN ADVANCE.
THIS IS BASICALLY MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS WRAPPED UP.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED FOR THE EVENT IS EITHER IN OR IT'S COMING.
YOU HAVE STATUSES ON EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOUR VENDORS ARE SHOWING UP.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOUR FOOD TRUCKS ARE COMING.
UM, WHAT TIME AND SCHEDULING THAT YOU HAVE FOR VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF THAT DAY.
CUZ THE BIGGER COMPONENT TO THAT IS IF YOU DO HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TO ANYTHING YET, THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE FOR THE EVENT, TRY TO HAVE A PRE-EVENT MEETING.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M TRYING TO PUT IN FOR THIS YEAR FOR MYSELF BECAUSE THERE'S WAY TOO MANY EVENTS AND PROGRAMS THAT I RUN WILL SHOW UP TO VOLUNTEER THAT DAY.
AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.
I JUST NEED YOU TO GO STAND AT THAT TABLE
AND, AND IT ENDS UP ME JUST DOING IT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO, TO TRAIN THEM.
SO MAKE SURE YOU AT LEAST DO IT LIKE THE DAY BEFORE OR A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO MEET YOU.
THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING AND THEY KNOW WHAT TO PREPARE FOR.
IT JUST MAKES YOUR LIFE EASIER IN THE DAY OF, UM, ANY ITEMS THAT YOU CAN SET UP THE DAY BEFORE IS HUGE.
SO IF IT'S SOMEWHERE ON OUR PROPERTY AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON THE DAY BEFORE YOUR PROGRAM OR EVENT, I'D BE HAPPY TO GO HELP YOU SET IT UP AND HAVE IT READY FOR YOU SO YOU'RE NOT COMING FIVE HOURS BEFORE THE EVENT STARTS.
CUZ THE LAST THING YOU WANNA DO IS WEAR YOURSELF OUT BEFORE THE EVENT EVEN BEGINS.
AND THEN YOU STILL GOTTA BE THERE WHEN THE EVENT ENDS TO CLEAN IT ALL UP.
SO MAKE YOUR LIFE A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND GET AS MUCH AS YOU CAN DOWN THE STAGE THE DAY BEFORE AND, AND PUBLIC WORK, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING IN THIS ROOM.
IT'S SETTING THIS ROOM UP HOW YOU WANT, YOU JUST NEED TO TELL 'EM, OH, IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT AUDIENCE.
JUST SET IT UP LIKE A NORMAL MEETING OR HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP SO WE HAVE LITTLE PODS OR WHATEVER YOU SORT OF EXPLAIN TO THEM AND THEY MOVE THE CHAIRS AROUND AND THEY GET IT DONE FOR YOU.
IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE GREAT AT IT.
AND EVEN THE DAY BEFORE, IF THERE'S STUFF OUTSIDE, IF YOU'RE DOING AN OUTSIDE EVENT ON THE TRAIL OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AND YOU NEED IT, WE'D WH REAL QUICK.
OR THEY NEED SOMETHING LIKE THEY'RE AWESOME AT MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET IT DONE FOR YOU.
SO WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT WAY THAT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER.
SO IT MAY NOT BE ME OUT THERE, WE'D WHACK FOR YOU, BUT SOMEONE WILL GO AFTER IT.
UM, EVENT DAY I HAVE HERE, THIS IS, THIS IS NEW FOR ME CUZ I, I GENERALLY CAN'T SIT STILL LONG ENOUGH TO BE THIS PERSON.
BUT, UM, THE EVENT DIRECTOR, WHOEVER YOU CHOOSE TO BE LEADING THIS EVENT FOR YOU, THEY NEED TO HAVE A COMMAND PLACE.
THEY NEED TO HAVE A POST THE DAY OF THE EVENT WHERE EVERYBODY CAN FIND YOU.
DON'T TRY TO BE THE HERO AND RUN AROUND AND DO EVERYTHING CUZ SOMETHING FELL APART.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE TO HELP YOU DO THAT.
SO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT COMMAND POST AND THAT'S ALSO WHERE THE VOLUNTEERS ARE GONNA CHECK IN.
THAT'S WHERE, UM, THE SCHEDULE OF THE DAY ACTIVITIES ARE GONNA BE YOUR VENDOR INFORMATION AND WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ARE.
IT'S ALSO WHERE THE PATRONS ARE GONNA COME AND IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EVENT OR IF THEY LOST AN ITEM OR IF A CHILD'S MISSING LOST AN IT'S, IT'S LOST AN ITEM
UM, IT IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE EASIER PLACES LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT PERSON'S THERE AND THEY HAVE A COMMUNICATION DEVICE, WHETHER IT'S A WALKIE-TALKIE WITH ALL OF THEIR LEADS OR IT'S CELL PHONE CHAT REAL QUICK.
SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW WHERE THAT PERSON IS, I'M GONNA BUY YOU, I'M GONNA HAVE MY DEPARTMENT BUY YOU A LARGE FLAGPOLE THAT SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU'RE WITH THE BIG ONE STAR
THAT SEEMS FINE, IS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SIT AND DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
ON THE EVENTS THOUGH, UM, POST EVENT, WHAT I DO FOR EVERY EVENT THAT WE DO, AND THIS IS EVENT BASED, UM, I SEND EVERYONE WHO WORKED THAT EVENT, STAFF VOLUNTEERS AND I DO TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE VENDORS AFTERWARDS, ASK THEM HOW THEY FELT THE EVENT WENT FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW.
CUZ IF YOU'RE THE COMMAND LEADER FOR THIS EVENT, YOU'RE NOT OUT THERE FOR THE MOST PART.
LIKE YOU'RE IN ONE AREA AND YOU MIGHT WALK THROUGH IT, BUT YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT KNEES DEEP IN IT.
SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEND OUT A BASIC SURVEY.
IT CAN BE FIVE QUESTIONS, IT CAN BE AS MANY QUESTIONS AS YOU WANT, BUT JUST GET A GRASP FROM EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE THAT DAY OF HOW IT WENT.
CUZ THEN YOU CAN JUST IMPROVE IT FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, MOST OF WHAT YOU'LL GET IS THAT STAFF WISH YOU HAD MORE FOOD FOR THEM OR BETTER FOOD OR MORE SNACKS,
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DOES MATT FILL ALL THAT OUT?
ASK THEM SIMILAR QUESTIONS LIKE, DID YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAME AND YOU GOT OUT OF THE CLASS WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA GET OUT OF? DID YOU THINK THE INSTRUCTOR WAS APPROPRIATE? DID YOU, UM, WAS THE TIMEFRAME GOOD FOR YOU TO COME? WAS THIS A HARDSHIP FOR YOU TO PAY FOR? LIKE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT JUST GIVES YOU FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR THE NEXT THING YOU'RE GONNA PUT ON.
AND THEN MY LAST PAGE IS JUST, THIS IS THE EXAMPLE OF A SMALL PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LEFT.
SO THIS IS OUR RAIN BARREL WORKSHOP.
UM, THE WAY THAT WE ESTABLISHED THIS WAS THAT WE NEEDED MORE TOWNSHIP EDUCATION FOR MS FOUR.
SO THIS WAS OUR WAY, IT'S A SIMPLE PROGRAM THAT WE COULD PUT ON TO START THAT EDUCATION PROCESS AGAIN.
OUR SECOND PURPOSE WAS TO PARTNER MORE WITH THE WATERSHED.
SO THIS WAS A GREAT AVENUE TO KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.
THE FIRST COMMUNICATION WE HAD WITH THIS, UM, WAS AN ONSITE MEETING ON FIVE ON MAY 2ND.
SO FOR A PROGRAM TO THIS SIZE, STARTING IT A FEW MONTHS BEFOREHAND IS FINE.
UM, IT'S YOUR EVENTS THAT YOU WANT SIX MONTHS OR MORE TO GET READY FOR.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD YOU EXPECT AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS? IT'D BE 10 TO 15.
AND THIS TIME WE HAD TO PAY FOR THE BARRELS.
SO IT WAS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT OF A COST.
BUT WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU DO, EVEN IF THE WHOLE ENTIRE THING IS GRANT FUNDED, EVEN IF THE WHOLE THING IS PAID FOR ANYTHING ON THOSE LINES, PUT SOMETHING ON THERE BECAUSE IF IT'S FREE, PEOPLE SIGN UP AND YOU HAVE 25 PEOPLE AND YOU'RE LIKE, LET'S GET 25 BARRELS, THIS IS GONNA BE AWESOME.
IT HAPPENS TO US ALL THE TIME WITH FREE PROGRAMS BECAUSE YOU'VE PUT THAT LOWER QUALITY ON IT JUST BY PRICE.
SO PLAY WITH IT A LITTLE BIT, EVEN IF IT'S LIKE FOR THIS YOU'RE CHARGING $60 MM-HMM.
SO YEAH, IT'S BASICALLY YOU COME TO THE PROGRAM
SO INSTEAD OF RUNNING THE HOSE AND RUNNING TAP WATER TO WATER YOUR PLANTS OR YOUR GARDEN OR MIX CEMENT FOR A PROJECT, YOU HAVE THIS HUGE, WAS IT 50 GALLONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BARREL THAT YOU HAVE FRESH WATER.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO DO THAT VERSUS ALLOWING THE GUTTERS TO JUST GO INTO THE GRASS AND NOW EVERYTHING'S GETTING WET, OUR BASINS FILL UP.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST MY BIRD'S EYE VIEW ON IT.
I'M NOT, DO THEY DO EDUCATIONAL OVERVIEW MM-HMM.
STOP MOSQUITOES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I I COULD SAY I FOUND OUT SOMETHING ABOUT THE QR CODE.
DO NOT GO WITH A ELDERLY POPULATION.
LIKE WHAT IS, AND THEY LOOK AT ME LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OH, I GET IT ALL TIME NOW.
ARE YOU SIGNING ME UP FOR, SO WHEN PEOPLE SIGNED UP, YOU SAY 20 PEOPLE 15, USUALLY WE'LL GET 10 15 FOR THIS.
AND THESE CITIZENS THAT HAVE SEEN IT ON THE WEBSITE MM-HMM.
AND WE HAVE, IF YOU HAVE A PROGRAM AT OUR EVENT THAT YOU WANNA RUN REGISTRATIONS THROUGH OUR SOFTWARE, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT EMAIL LISTS THAT WE CAN DO EMAIL BLASTS TO CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TAKEN AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM WITH US BEFORE.
SO YOU'RE HITTING THAT NICHE GROUP OR WE SEND IT OUT AS A HUGE BLAST AND EVERYONE WHO'S, ANYONE WHO HAS A LOGIN FOR OUR WEBSITE GETS THIS EMAIL WITH THIS INFORMATION ON IT.
SO WE'RE ALREADY, AS A TOWNSHIP DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT BASE.
AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT MY DEPARTMENT OR PUBLIC WORKS PHYSICALLY TACKLING IT, WE PARTNER WITH ALL THE GROUPS LIKE SCA.
WE PARTNER WITH THEIR TWO CLEANUPS A YEAR AND WE MAKE SURE WE'RE THERE AND PRESENT TO HELP THEM DO IT.
WE MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT DATE AND TIME IT IS AND WHEN THEIR DUMPSTERS ARE COMING ON OUR PROPERTY AND MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT HOLDING ANYTHING ELSE ON THOSE DAYS.
BUT YEAH, THIS IS JUST MY BASIC YEAH.
I WOULD ASSUME MOST OF VENT AT THIS TOWNSHIP ARE PARKS AND REC EVENTS.
THE ONLY PLANNING EVENTS ARE WHEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE COME IN THE AUDIENCE AND YELL AT ME
THAT'S MY MAIN THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE TALKING
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LOUDLY TO YOU.NO, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE THEY'RE YELLING AT YOU TOO, TOO.
SO, AND THAT'S WHY THE DESIGN OF THE EAC IS REALLY TO BE SPLIT BETWEEN PLANNING AND PARKS AND REC PLANNING FROM A STANDPOINT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT? HOW CAN WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IN OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT TO CHANGE, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH RAIN BARRELS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND PARKS AND REC BECAUSE THEY BRING THE DEPTH AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO RUN AN EVENT.
AND IT IS, YOU KNOW, THIS MAKES IT PERFECTLY CLEAR, WHICH IT ALSO MAKES IT INCREDIBLY DAUNTING.
OH, OH, I, I WAS READING THROUGH IT NOW.
LIKE SUE WAS THREE PAGES, LIKE CHILL OUT
SO IT IT, BUT I THINK IT GIVES US A GOOD TIMELINE.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK, AND I DON'T THINK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS EXPECTING US TO HAVE AN EVENT EVERY SIX MONTHS OR FOUR OR FIVE A YEAR.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, OUR JOB HERE IS NOT TO REPLACE WHAT PARKS AND REC DOES.
AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOMEWHAT OF AN EDUCATIONAL, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE OUR EVENTS BECOME MORE EDUCATIONAL AND THEY'RE JUST BECOME MORE INTERACTIVE.
WHATEVER WE DETERMINE AND THEN WHATEVER WE GET TO IS, IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WE'RE OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE HERE TO COMPLIMENT IT AND TO BRING IT FORWARD.
ARE YOU GUYS WORKING MAINLY ON MS FOUR THINGS OR? NO, THAT'S MORE KIND OF, AND BILL CASPER'S NOT HERE, BUT THAT MS FOUR TENDS TO BE MORE THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH EDUCATION THEY'RE REALLY DOING.
AS SARAH WAS PARTNER WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT TO, TO DO SOME EDUCATION LIKE WITH THE RAIN BARREL AND MM-HMM.
WE'VE, I MEAN WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW AND WE'RE STILL SORT OF FIGURING OUT WHAT OUR PROGRAMS WE WANT TO DO.
AND THEN AS WELL, IT'S NOT ONLY FIGURE OUT WHAT PROGRAMS WE WANT TO DO, BUT HOW TO DO IT.
WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE A, A DEFINED BUDGET.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT YOU OR, OR JEFF OR SOMEBODY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT ALL, HOW THAT ALL FITS IN.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IF WE CAN COME, WE CAN TRANSITION TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
IF WE CAN COME UP WITH, IF WE CAN LOOK AT OUR LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO AND WE PICK ONE OR TWO, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET ANYTHING DONE NECESSARILY THIS YEAR.
I MEAN, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY SMALL AND QUICK WE CAN DO.
BUT, BUT LET'S START PLANNING FOR NEXT SPRING AND, AND START TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT.
THEN I CAN GO TO THE, TO BRIAN AND TIM AND SAY, AND SUE WILL HELP ME OUT AND SAY, HEY, LET'S PUT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THIS EVENT NEXT YEAR MM-HMM.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THAT MONEY IN THE BUDGET SO YOU HAVE IT.
AND THEN SO, AND SUE AND I WILL WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET SUE'S MACHINE ROLLING WITH IT.
WELL SUE, DO YOU ALREADY DO AN EARTH DAY EVENT? WE, WE DABBLED.
WE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN,
THE UNFORTUNATELY IS, IS SO MANY PLACES AROUND HERE DO ONE.
SO IT'S EITHER, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO THROUGH OUR LIKE LITTLE PARK AND REC CONSORTIUM IS SAYING IF YOU'RE, IF COLLEGEVILLE IS RUNNING A HUGE EARTH DAY CELEBRATION, WHY DON'T WE JUST PARTNER WITH THEM, ATTEND, HAVE A MEDIUM PLACE TO HAVE IT, A GOOD LOCATION THAT'S BETWEEN THE TWO OF US OR ONE OR THE OTHER PROMOTED AS BOTH OF US ARE RUNNING IT.
AND THEN WE HAVE WAY MORE TO OFFER BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO COME.
IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S NOT COMPETITION.
I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT CAUSE NONE OF OUR STUFF IS, BUT IT'S MORE SO LIKE WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH THE SAME EXACT RESIDENTS.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ALL THE SAME THINGS.
ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WHAT WE DECIDED TO TRY TO DO WAS TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS OF THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY COULD IMPLEMENT.
AND SO WE LET, WE, THE CHARGE FROM OUR LAST MEETING WAS EVERYBODY WAS GOING TO GO HOME AND SPEND HOURS AND HOURS AND DAYS AND DAYS THINKING ABOUT THIS.
AND, UM, COME BACK TODAY AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S A COUPLE IDEAS THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MAYBE IMPLEMENT, ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT IT LIKE YOU SAY JEFF, MAYBE NEXT SPRING OR WHATEVER.
UM, SO I'LL START IT BECAUSE I'M GONNA TRANSITION INTO THE NEXT PART HERE CAUSE WE'RE GETTING LATE.
UM, I'M GONNA TRANSITION RIGHT INTO THE NEXT PART OF OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS
[3. General Discussion: Program Priorities from EAC Members]
THE IDEAS THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT.AND I'LL START, CAUSE I HAD TWO THAT I CAME UP WITH.
I THOUGHT MAYBE ONE OF THEM WAS, AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT EARTH DAY, ONE OF THEM WAS, AND NOT EARTH DAY PER SE, BUT A SPRING CLEAN, UH, BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ACTUALLY COULD, YOU KNOW, PLANT TREES, UH, CLEAN PLACES UP, YOU KNOW, I 4 22 IS WE ALL DRIVE THAT.
WE KNOW WHERE TO MESS THAT IS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY USED TO HAVE THE CONVICTS, BUT I GUESS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
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YEAH.I DON'T KNOW IF THEY, THEY YOU HAVE ANY HAIR THAT FRESH AIR IS BAD.
I DON'T THEY WERE ODD GUYS MOSTLY.
I KNOW, I KNOW BRIAN EKK FROM THE, THE ASSISTANT MANAGER.
HE REACHES OUT TO THEM LIKE ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS AND SAYS, HEY, ARE YOU DOING IT? AND THEY, THEY ARE, THEY'RE JUST NOT.
SO I, YOU KNOW, SO GOING TO YOUR EARTH DAY THING AGAIN, THAT WAS ONE IDEA I HAD WAS, UM, WAS WAS THAT, AND I'M SURE OTHER GUYS PROBABLY THOUGHT OF THAT TOO.
IF OTHER FOLKS SHOULD, UH, WAS A BEAUTIFICATION SLASH CLEANUP DAY, WE CAN DO IT ON EARTH DAY OR BEFORE EARTH DAY OR WHATEVER.
THE OTHER ONE THAT I STILL IN THE BIG, UH, IN, IN BILL I THINK HAS HELPED A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT.
HE SENT OUT SOME INFO IS, UH, THAT THE SINGLE SERVE PLASTIC, UH, ISSUE BAGS.
WELL, BAGS, CUPS, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT STUFF THAT PEOPLE JUST SEEM TO TAKE IT AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
BUT THAT WAS IN THE MERCURY THE OTHER DAY THAT, UH, UPPER MARION HAD JUST PASSED THAT ORDINANCE.
AND SO THERE WAS A WHOLE ARTICLE OF THAT'S OF ALL THE, THAT'S FRENZY DOWN THERE IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
AND I KNOW IT'S A BIG CHAPTER AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S SOME RIGHT THAT IS, IS MAYBE, SO I, I SENT THAT OUT JUST SO WE COULD LOOK AT SOMEBODY'S ORDINANCE.
BUT I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE IDEA.
I MEAN REALLY I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN IMPLEMENT.
AND, AND ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE ISN'T ESPECIALLY THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT ZONING OR, UH, IS IT ZONING IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE CUZ YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN STEPS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHEN YOU'RE JUST ADOPTING PART OF THE CODE.
WHETHER THAT'S TRASH OR SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT'S AN EASIER ADOPTION PROCESS.
AND I KNOW SOME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN, THEY HAD AN INTEREST IN, IN GETTING RID OF THE, UH, THE PLASTIC BAGS AT GROCERY STORES.
AND AS THAT HAPPENED, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT INTERNALLY AND HOW WE IMPLEMENT THAT, IT'S HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW, WEGMAN'S DID IT ON ITS OWN.
I THINK GIANTS DONE IT ON ITS OWN.
BUT AGAIN, BUT NOT EVERYBODY'S DONE IT.
AND, BUT YOU KNOW, WAWA STILL DOES IT.
YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GIVE YOU A A CASE OF THEM IF YOU WANT THEM.
BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK, DO YOU HAVE TO ASK? YOU HAVE TO ASK.
WELL, YOU HAVE TO ASK WHAT OTHERS HAVE DONE WHEN THEY TRY TO DO THAT WITH PRODUCT.
WHETHER IT'S PLASTIC CUPS OR STRAWS OR PLASTIC BAGS WHEN IT'S BROUGHT UP, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTARILY AUTOMAT, LIKE YOU SAID AT WEGMANS, WHERE THEY SAY, WE'RE NO LONGER USING PLASTIC, WE'RE USING REUSABLE BAGS.
OR WE'LL LET YOU PAY FOR A PAPER BAG.
THEY RECOGNIZE THEM, THE ONES THAT ARE DOING IT TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY ELSE TO START MM-HMM.
THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA WAS A PRIME EXAMPLE.
SOME JUST DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA.
BUT THEN WHEN THE BUSINESS STANDS OUT THAT THEY'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD MARK.
AND I THINK TOO, IT'S AN AWARENESS.
YOU KNOW, I I I DON'T THINK LIKE UPPER MARION IS CREATING AN ORDINANCE CUZ THEY WANT SOMETHING ELSE TO ENFORCE.
SO NOW THE SHOP OWNERS WHO ARE HANDING OUT PLASTIC WHATEVERS, UH, NOW THEY KNOW THAT, HEY, THIS, THERE'S A REASON THEY, IT WAS ON THE NEWS THIS MORNING AND SO I HAVEN'T READ YOUR ARTICLE YET, BUT THE, THE WAY IT'S TRANSITIONING IS BY A CERTAIN DATE EVER HAS TO GET RID PLASTIC BAGS RIGHT.
IT'S PLASTIC UTENSILS BY A CERTAIN DATE FARTHER IN THE FUTURE.
THEY, SO IT'S, IT IS, IT'S UTENSILS, IT'S PLASTICS THAT'S CUT.
STRAWS, STRAWS, IT'S ALL OF THAT.
BUT THERE'S CERTAIN DATES AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE WANT TO WRITE UP A, A MEMO AND, AND PUT AN ORDINANCE TOGETHER AND SEND TO THE BOARD, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE, THAT'S A MILESTONE WE CAN GET.
AND THEN GILLY WITH YOUR RECOGNIZING THOSE THAT HAVE DONE IT IN THE TOWNSHIP, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN GO ON THE WEBSITE.
I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REASON I DON'T THINK WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE AN EAC PAGE YET, BUT WE, WE DO NEED TO CREATE ONE.
SEE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS AN EAC, WE WANT TO GET SOME TRACTION SOMEWHERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
I MEAN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY, NOW MAYBE THE SUPERVISORS AND THE TOWNSHIP PEOPLE SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT.
BUT AT LEAST IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN THROW OUT THERE AND SAY, HERE'S A FIRST STEP FOR THE EAC THAT WE THINK WE OUGHT TO GO.
AND MAYBE, MAYBE WE JUST DO STRAWS FIRST.
GET RID OF PLASTIC STRAWS AND YOU HAVE TO USE PAPER STRAWS AND IT'S A VERY SUBLIME WAY OF JUST, YOU'RE NOT, NOT TELLING PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO DO IT, BUT YOU'RE RECOGNIZING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING IT.
AND THEN THAT SORT OF PILES UP.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS.
BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, IF THERE ISN'T SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE OR SOME SORT OF, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO USURP IT.
AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU ENFORCE IT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST TELL PEOPLE YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY THEY APPLY.
BUT I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF,
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UH, YEAH.SOME SORT OF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS MIS COLY I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S EXACTLY EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
IT, IT'S TO GET PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE IT BECAUSE ONCE THEY RECOGNIZE IT AND THEN YOU GIVE THEM TIME.
BECAUSE IF YOU JUST TRY TO THROW AN ORDINANCE IN LIKE THAT WITHOUT ANY SORT OF, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT THAT? MY, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
SO, OKAY, SO YOU WANNA WRITE UP AN ORDINANCE, IT GOES TO THE BOARD.
WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? THEY VOTE ON IT OR THEY PUT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC OR WELL, IT'S FOR JUST A REGULAR PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ZONING, ZONING IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
BUT FOR, FOR THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE, REALLY, WE WOULD PROBABLY PUT YOU ON A BOARD AGENDA.
HAVE SOMEONE, THE CHAIR OR SOMEONE ELSE COME UP AND SPEAK AND SAY, HERE'S A, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT WHAT LOWER MARION DID OR UPPER MARION DID.
WE, WE ADAPTED THAT FOR WHAT WE THINK WORKS FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
WE AS AN EAC, WE REALLY THINK BANNING THESE MATERIALS IS, IS BENEFICIAL.
YOU CAN MENTION LIKE WEGMAN'S ALREADY HAS GIANT, ALREADY HAS PLACES LIKE THAT HAVE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, STARTED THIS PROCESS AND WE WANT TO JUST SORT OF PUSH A LITTLE BIT HARDER BUT NOT OVERWHELM PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE PUTTING THESE DATES ON IT.
YOU EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT, YOU EXPLAIN IT TO THE BOARD AND THEY SAY, OKAY, WE'LL TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT.
PROBABLY WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT, BUT WE'LL HAVE JOE THE SOLICITOR CHECK OFF AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S LEGAL AND THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, GONNA DO ANYTHING WRONG AND, AND GET OURSELVES SUED.
BUT WE'LL HAVE JOE LOOK AT IT AND THEN AT A FUTURE MEETING THEY'LL TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE TO DO BECAUSE IT EXPECT SOMETHING THAT NOBODY HAS TO DO A LOT OF RUNNING AROUND.
YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT GET PUSHBACK, YOU MIGHT GET PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT, THAT THE NEXT MEETING MIGHT COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY BAD IDEA.
I DON'T LIKE THE PAPER STRAWS, WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, OH, WHATEVER THEY, AND SO THEN THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A THING.
UM, I DON'T THINK FOR THAT ORDINANCE, I DON'T THINK IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF ACTUALLY HAVING A FULL HEARING.
I'D HAVE TO CHECK THAT WITH ZONING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FULL HEARING WHERE THERE'S UM, THERE'S A, A COURT REPORTER AND IT'S OFFICIAL AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.
I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO WITH THE OTHER SECTIONS OF THE TOWNSHIP CODE.
IT'S LIKE A LOT OF TOWNSHIPS HAVE A LITTERING POLICY.
HOW MANY TICKETS ARE ACTUALLY GIVEN OUT OR WHO CONTROLS FOR THAT? WHAT IT IS.
YOU THINK PEOPLE HAVE COMMON SENSE, BUT TO HAVE A SIGN UP? WELL, THAT'S THE THING, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S LIKE WITH THE PLASTICS, I DON'T THINK MOST, MAYBE EVEN MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF NOT JUST THE FACT THAT PEOPLE THROW PLASTIC BAGS AND THEY END UP IN THE RIVER OR IN THE WOODS OR WHATEVER.
JUST THE MANUFACTURING OF PLASTICS, HOW TOXIC AND THE WHOLE THING.
NOW I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE A PLASTIC BAG MANUFACTURER IN THE TOWNSHIP
SO YOU DO HAVE FOR A LONG TIME.
DO THEY DO ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES BEING PLASTIC? THEY WONDER ACROSS THE STREET, GO TO THE PER NO
BUT, UM, WELL THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THEY'RE IN TWO PLACES NOW.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN PROVIDENCE BUSINESS PARK.
THEY'RE UH, THAT'S GLOBAL PACKAGING, YOU KNOW.
AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO DOWN IN OAKS STILL BY THE PER, ARE THEY ACTUALLY MANUFACTURING THE BAGS OR ARE THEY UH, EXCEPT DOING PACKAGING WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE PRINTING THE PRODUCT.
YEAH, I THINK THEY MANUFACTURE OFFSITE AND THEN THEY BRING IT HERE TO THEY, THEY ARE A MANUFACTURER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT HERE.
TOWNSHIP, BUT THE COMPANY ITSELF IS A MANUFACTURER.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY MANUFACTURING IT HERE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S USED TO SMELL REALLY BAD.
SO THEY WERE BRINGING THE RAW MATERIAL AND MAYBE LESS.
AND THEN WHEN THE NEW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG REASONS WHY WE WERE SO UPSET THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO BUILD A BUILDING THERE.
CAUSE LIKE IT SMELLS BAD WHEN YOU'RE ALL THE WAY OVER THERE.
WELL THAT SORT OF LEADS TO ANOTHER TOPIC THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE WERE GONNA MAYBE CONSIDER IS, UH, THE, UH, UH, WHAT'S THE, THE STATE PROGRAM FOR UH, FOR THE GLOBAL WARMING? THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
AND I, I, UH, I GOT SOME INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, THE STATE HAS A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND YOU KNOW, IT'S TO ADDRESS GLOBAL WARMING.
THE, THE WAY THEY WANT TO HANDLE IT IS EACH MUNICIPALITY, WHAT THEY CALL THEIR L C A P, LOCAL CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
AND SO UPPER PROVIDENCE COULD SIGN ON TO AN L C A P, IT WOULD START, THE NEXT ONE COMING UP STARTS IN SEPTEMBER AND THEY MARRY YOU UP WITH SOME PENN STATE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDENTS.
SO THEY REALLY KIND OF DO ALL THE WORK.
AND IT'S, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, ALL THROUGH THE YEAR PROCESS IN MAY IS WHEN THE PLAN HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER.
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READING IN THE THING, SOMETIMES IT CAN TAKE TWO YEARS TO DO IT.LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT IN THAT NINE MONTH TIMEFRAME.
AND I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO SOMEONE FROM OR SINUS ABOUT, CUZ IT, IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PENN STATE BABY DOES THAT SARAH.
BUT, SO WE REACHED OUT TO SOMEBODY FROM HER SINUS.
CAUSE WITH SARAH HERE, I, THAT BALL GOT DROPPED.
I FREELY ADMIT THAT I DROPPED THAT BALL.
I WILL, UM, I'LL REACH OUT TO HER AGAIN.
AND MAYBE AGAIN, WE'LL MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT.
WELL, MAYBE WE'LL HAVE HER SIGN US HERE IN SEPTEMBER AND WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD.
AND I, I, I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME WHO IS ON THE STATE, UH, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
AND HE SENT AN EMAIL, COPIED ME TO, UH, SOMEBODY FROM THE L C A P.
WHO, WHO RUNS THE L C A P PROGRAM.
HE WANTS TO HAVE A, UH, UH, EITHER A PHONE CALL OR A ZOOM CALL WITH ME ON FRIDAY.
SO I HAVE TO GET BACK TO, I DON'T KNOW IF, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS ACTUALLY THEIR PLATE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT ARE SOME OF THEIR ACTION? SO, SO WHAT, THEY'LL COME INTO YOUR MUNICIPALITY AND MAKE AN INVENTORY OF, UH, GAS, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND WHERE THEY'RE HAPPENING.
SO THEY'LL DO, THEY'LL DO WHAT THEY'LL ANALYZE.
THEY'LL SAY, I'M GONNA, I'VE GOTTA WALK AWAY FROM THIS PART OF IT CUZ I AM PROBABLY A BIG, THEY'LL ANALYZE 4 22 AND HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING UP AND DOWN 4 22 OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND HOW MUCH CO2 THAT'S PUTTING INTO THE AIR.
SO THEY'LL ANALYZE ALL SORTS OF STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST TARGETING A, A COMPANY OR WHATEVER.
IT'S ALSO FARMING PRACTICES, ALL SORTS.
AND THEN, SO THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, THEN THEY'LL THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT A PLAN, WHAT COULD BE DONE.
YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE THE CAR DEALERS SELL ALL ELECTRIC CARS.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TOO.
YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE'S OUR HEAVIEST CO2 BEING, WELL, YOU KNOW, PUT INTO THE YEAH.
AND SINCE WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AND START, WHY DON'T YOU WRITE THAT UP FOR THE SEPTEMBER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET DONE BY SEPTEMBER FOR IT.
AND THAT WE'LL BRING IT TO THE BOARD.
MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING WORKS OUT.
IT PROBABLY END UP HAVING TO BE THE OCTOBER BOARD MEETING AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WORKS FOR THIS YEAR.
IF WE'D HAVE TO PUT IT OFF FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND DO SEPTEMBER, 2024 TO JOIN IT.
BUT AT LEAST WE WOULD KNOW AND WE'D SORT OF GET THE, THE BALL ROLLING A LITTLE BIT.
SO IF THAT'S, IF I, IF I'M HAVING THIS PHONE CALL ON FRIDAY WHEN ANYBODY LIKE THIS, I WOULD WANT TO BE ON IT.
DO YOU HAVE A TIME FOR IT? YES.
I MEAN, THEY JUST REPLIED TO ME YESTERDAY CAUSE I JUST INITIATED, WELL IN THE FIVE MINUTES WE GOT LEFT, GILLIE, YOU SAID YOU HAD A COUPLE ITEMS. WELL IT'S, IT'S PRETTY MUCH REDUNDANT.
UM, JUST THINGS LIKE, AND I, I, I WAS LOOKING AT THE ADVISORY PART OF THIS MM-HMM
AND IT THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BOUNCED ON, BUT LIKE INVENTORY AND IDENTIFIED THE TOWNSHIP'S, EXISTING TRUCK EQUIPMENT AND CAR FLEET PHASE, INCO FRIENDLY NEW CARS, TRUCKS, EQUIPMENT.
LOOK FOR HYBRIDS AND ELECTRICAL FLEETS.
LOOK FOR ADDING SOLAR FIELDS AND CHARGING STATIONS WITH GRANTS TO SEE IF WE CAN INTRODUCE THAT TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, USE OF CHARGING STATION.
AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING TO TAKE YEARS, I'M NOT SAYING RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT EXPECTING ANY OF THIS BY SEPTEMBER.
THE OTHER, THE OTHER OTHER THING, AND I'M WORKING BACKWARDS, HE HAS WALLS TOO.
IDENTIFYING MAINTENANCE PRACTICES IN WATERSHED AREAS THAT ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND, UH, STREAMS, RIVERS, AND ANY TRIBUTARIES BE IDENTIFIED SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT OUR WHOLE WATERSHED AND MAYBE DO A PASSIVE THING.
UH, DON'T USE PESTICIDES NEXT TO THE STREAM OR DON'T USE SALT.
EVEN THOUGH EVERYTHING HERE THAT IS DONE EVENTUALLY WIND UP IN THE STREAM, IT JUST IMPACTS IT WHEN IT'S RAW LIKE THAT AND GOES IN.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING WATERSHEDS THERE, THERE'S SOMEBODY, HER NAME IS DARCY, OH GOD, I FORGOT HER LAST NAME OF COURSE.
WHO'S WORKING ON A REGIONAL WATERSHED IDENTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE PERKY OMAN SIDE.
THE TOWNSHIP SAID THAT THEY WANTED, THE SUPERVISOR SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO BE INVOLVED WITH IT.
SO THEY, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CONNECT YOU WITH HER AND MAYBE, MAYBE YOU CAN AND PART WORK SOME THINGS OUT WITH HER.
PART OF THAT WOULD BE LIMITING USE OF PESTICIDES NEXT TO THE STREAMS, ET CETERA.
UM, AND AGAIN, I TRY TO DO MY WORK.
CATALOG AND IDENTIFY ALL STORMWATER CONTROL AREAS.
EDUCATE AND PUT IN BEST PRACTICES FOR MAINTAINING AND RESORT, RESTORING AND NATURALIZING STORMWATER WATER BASIS.
THAT WOULD BE THROUGH LIKE SEMINARS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS, ASSOCIATIONS, ET CETERA.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK TOWARDS FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN THE LAST, I'LL DO ONE MORE.
UM, IDENTIFY EXISTING PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE TOWNSHIP THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR
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NATURAL RESTORATION.NOT JUST NATURAL, BUT ALSO LOOK TO IDENTIFY PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE RESTORED AS WETLANDS.
THERE'S FEDERAL GRANTS FOR THAT.
AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE OF THE BEST THINGS YOU CAN DO EDU YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST PROBABLY THAT HAS THE BIGGEST IMPACT ON OUR WATERSHED BECAUSE THAT'S THE FILTER THAT GOES IN BEFORE.
AND FOR ME IT WOULD BE IDENTIFYING COMPANIES THAT ON THEIR OWN HAVE USED THEIR PROPERTY TO CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT OR RESTORE THEM.
WE HAVE LOTS OF PROPERTIES ALONG THE STREAMS. IF YOU LOOK IN WHAT WAS WETLAND AREAS 30 YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS AGO IN OUR TOWNSHIP BALLOON, WE'VE LOST ALMOST 75% OF THEM.
AND THAT'S FROM FILLING IN NEXT TO THE RIVERS, ET CETERA.
BUT IN RESTORATION IT WORKS BECAUSE WE'RE ACQUIRING PROPERTIES THROUGH FEMA THAT FLOOD OVER.
SO HOW ABOUT YOU? I DON'T WANNA CUT YOU OFF HERE, BUT WE GOT FOUR, THREE MINUTES AND I ONLY MARIA A CHANCE.
I I KNOW YOU ALREADY DO LIKE A SHRED EVENT.
I JUST THINK IT MAY A SECOND SHRED EVENT.
BECAUSE PEOPLE REALLY LOVE THOSE.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS TO DO A TREE EVENT WHERE WE'RE GIVING AWAY SMALL TREES THAT PEOPLE COULD PLANT.
COULD WE TAKE YOUR SHRED EVENT AND EXPAND ON THAT AND SAY ELECTRONICS LIKE TVS AND DO THAT EVERY COMPUTERS AND ALSO THAT KIND OF STUFF.
CAUSE EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS ASKING.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST RIGHT PAPER.
BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE OTHER STUFF.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
EVERY OTHER YEAR WE DO THE ELECTRONIC WITH THE SHREDDED.
SO THIS YEAR WE HAD IT THIS YEAR, SO WE'LL HAVE, OR WE HAD IT LAST YEAR, SO WE'LL HAVE IT 24TH, BUT WE HAVE SHREDDED EVERY YEAR.
NOW WHAT I'M GONNA ASK SUE, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR, CAN THE EAC CO-SPONSOR SOME THINGS? ABSOLUTELY.
SO LIKE THE RAIN, THE RAIN BARREL.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DONE ALL THAT WORK.
I DON'T WANNA STICK OUR NAME ON IT, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF STICKING OUR NAME ON IT.
WHERE'S THAT LOGO THAT I I YOU NEED IT CREATED AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY BENT RIGHT.
AND YOU, I WANNA HEAR MORE THAN WE TALK, TALK INFREQUENTLY.
CAUSE I DON'T YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE.
I PROBABLY, BUT I THINK IT'D BE NICE IF YOU COULD COME, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.
CAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION EARLIER.
I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING MAYBE WE SHOULD BE TALKING MORE ABOUT.
UM, I NEVER EVEN, I NEVER, QUITE FRANKLY, YOU DID APPARENTLY NEVER THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, BRINGING YOU INVOLVED IN THIS, THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING STUFF.
WELL AND SARAH SARAH'S ROLE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT SARAH WAS SORT OF SERVING A DUAL ROLE.
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SORT OF THE PROGRAM SIDE OF IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO MORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF IT.
AND NOW WE NEED TO MAKE UP THAT, MAKE THAT UP.
SOMEHOW WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT VOID OUT.
BUT WE'LL FIGURE THAT ALL OUT TOGETHER.
WELL, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
HEY, ONE LAST THING I, I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S A REGIONAL EAC WHERE A LOT OF THE TOWNSHIPS IN THE AREA GET TOGETHER LIKE ONCE EVERY THREE MONTHS AND IT'S BEEN A ZOOM CALL.
THEY'RE HAVING A LIVE ONE THIS SATURDAY.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE IN CHESTER SPRINGS.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO, I CLOSE.
IF YOU COULD SEND THAT INFORMATION AROUND.
YEAH, I'LL TO EVERYBODY THAT WAY.
IF SOMEONE CAN GO, THAT'S GREAT.
I WON'T BE ABLE TO, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BE GOING IF ANYBODY WANTS.
AND ANYTIME YOU DO SOMETHING JUST, YOU KNOW, WRITE UP A PARAGRAPH AND SEND IT BACK TO US.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST SAY, WE'LL PUT IT IN MINUTES.
LIKE I DID WITH WHAT MARIA SENT, YOU KNOW, INFORMATIONAL ONLY AT THE BOTTOM AND I JUST PUT THAT LA I JUST SORT OF ATTACK IT ONTO THE, THE PACKET.
THE NEAT THING ABOUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY GO AROUND TOWNSHIP BY TOWNSHIP AND EACH EAC SAYS, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST MONTHS AS AN EAC.
SO I'M, I'M GONNA STOP US HERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT EXACTLY ONE MINUTE TO GET TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO IS THERE ANY OTHER ISSUES REAL QUICK? NOTHING.
ALL IN FAVOR? I HAVE ADJOURNED.
AND I GUESS THE NEXT MEETING YOU ON IT WOULD BE SURE.
JOHNS HAVE TO, IT'S FASTER PAPER.
SEPTEMBER 20TH TO GIVE THANK YOU.
YOUR TWO SEPTEMBER 20TH BILL, DID YOU HEAR THAT? IS THE NEXT, THE NEXT ONE.