[CALL TO ORDER ]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING IN THE UPPER PROVIDENCE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TUESDAY, APRIL 18TH.
UH, THIS MEETING WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR LAST NIGHT, THE 17TH, BUT WE REALIZED WE WERE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, WHICH REQUIRES THAT THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD BE IN THE ROOM.
AND, UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS IN THE ROOM,
WE HAVE SOME NEW, UH, MICS UP THAT SHOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR EVERYONE TO HEAR.
THAT'S WHY THE SPEAKERS PODIUM HAS BEEN MOVED OFF TO ONE SIDE.
SO IT'S SITTING RIGHT UNDER ONE OF THESE NEW MICROPHONES.
THEY'RE VERY SENSITIVE AND THEY'RE GONNA PICK UP JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S SAID IN THE ROOM DURING THE MEETING.
SO JUST BE AWARE, EVERYONE UP HERE, BE AWARE, EVEN IF YOUR MIC'S NOT TURNED ON, YOU'RE PROBABLY TURNED ON
SO, UH, ANYWAY, UM, LET'S SEE.
UH, THE VIDEO CAMERAS ARE ALWAYS ON, AND I THINK THAT'S IT.
SO IF YOU ARISE, AS YOU'RE ABLE, AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEG, THE PLEDGE OF IS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION, GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[MOTION TO APPROVE BOARD AGENDA ]
HAD A LOOK.UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APRIL 18TH, 2023 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING AGENDA.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
[CEREMONIES ]
UH, NOW WE HAVE SOME, UH, CEREMONIES AND I'M GONNA ASK SUE HOFFMAN TO COME DOWN.UH, THE TOWNSHIP RECEIVED AN AWARD FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA RECREATION AND PARK SOCIETY.
UM, IT'S THE TARGETING EXCELLENCE IN RECREATION PARKS AND OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.
AND IT'S FOR OUR NEW PLAYGROUND, UH, JUST ACROSS THE PARKING LOT THERE.
AND IF YOU'VE BEEN BY IT ANY DAYLIGHT HOUR AND SEEING 50, 70, A HUNDRED CARS PARKED OVER THERE ON A SUNNY DAY, YOU'LL KNOW HOW POPULAR IT IS, ESPECIALLY WITH YOUNG KIDS AND PARENTS.
I SPEND ABOUT THREE AFTERNOONS A WEEKEND, UH, MYSELF OUT THERE WITH MY GRANDDAUGHTER, AND I MEET FOLKS FROM TOWNSHIPS ALL AROUND US THAT HAVE COME HERE TO PLAY ON THAT PARTICULAR PLAYGROUND.
IT'S AN ALL ABILITIES PLAYGROUND, UH, GEARED TOWARDS KIDS OF, OF ALL PHYSICAL ABILITY.
UH, FROM AGE NINE, WHAT DID YOU SAY, AGE TWO TO 99.
I'LL HAVE TO TELL YOU
BUT, UH, SO ANYWAY, I WANTED TO THANK SUE AND, AND HER, UH, PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OUR WONDERFUL PARKS AND REC BOARD.
I WANT TO THANK THE, UH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS GUYS WHO DID MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE, ON THE PLAYGROUND THEMSELVES.
THEY WANTED TO BUILD IT SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT INTO THE FUTURE AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW IT'S PUT TOGETHER.
IT'S GOT A VERY SAFE, UH, SURFACE OUT THERE FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY ON, WHICH IS ALSO PERVIOUS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US NOW AS WE DEVELOP ANYTHING IN THE TOWNSHIP, HOW MUCH PERVIOUS AND IMPERVIOUS SPACE THERE IS.
THE WATER FLOWS RIGHT THROUGH IT, DOWN INTO THE GROUND.
AND, UH, SO CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK, SUE.
AND, UH, THANK, UH, PAULA WORKS GUYS AND EVERYBODY HAD APARTMENTS.
DO WE HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE RED CROSS? HERE? YOU'RE NEXT.
YEAH, YOU JUST NEED TO STAND HERE, THE PODIUM.
UH, MY NAME IS ANN BEAL AND I'M WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.
AND ON JANUARY 31ST, UH, YOUR TOWNSHIP HELD A VERY SPECIAL BLOOD DRIVE.
IT'S CALLED BATTLE OF THE BADGES.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE, UH, FIRE CHIEF AND THE POLICE CHIEF AT THIS MOMENT.
THESE BLOOD DRIVES ARE VERY SPECIAL IN THE SENSE THAT, UM, THE AMERICAN RED CROSS HAS A VERY STRONG PARTNERSHIP WITH A LOT OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND, UM, THESE TWO AMAZING GENTLEMEN STEPPED UP TO HOST, UM, A BATTLE OF THE BADGES BLOOD DRIVE.
AND THE IDEA IS, UM, THE FIRE AND THE POLICE COMPETE TO SEE HOW MANY BLOOD
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DONORS THEY CAN GET IN.AND GENERALLY THERE'S ONE WINNER.
WELL, THESE GUYS WORKED SO HARD, AND I'M TELLING YOU, ONE OF THEM EVEN HAD A LITTLE SIGN OUT THERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR THEM.
BUT APPARENTLY IT DIDN'T WORK, UH, BECAUSE THEY EACH COLLECTED 55 DONATIONS A PIECE.
SO WE GENERALLY, UH, WE, WE GENERALLY ONLY PRESENT ONE OF THESE PLAQUES.
BUT I HAVE A PLAQUE TO HONOR THE WINNER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR, UM, I'M SO SORRY FOR THE, UH, FOR THAT AND ALSO ONE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR ALL THAT THEY, I'M STILL FEELING A LITTLE, CAUSE I WENT FIVE TIMES TO
[PUBLIC COMMENT ]
ALL RIGHT.NOW, NOW WE'VE COME TO THE POINT MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND, UH, AS ALWAYS, I'LL ASK YOU TO COME DOWN FRONT TO THE PODIUM AND MAKE YOUR COMMENT.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR STREET ADDRESS, AND TRY TO HOLD YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES.
AND JUST A REMINDER ABOUT THE PARKHOUSE ISSUE.
WE STILL DO FACE THE PROSPECT OF A, UM, CONDITIONAL USE HEARING FOR THE BOARD, UH, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE POTENTIALLY.
SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, FEEL FREE TO ASK IT, BUT CONSIDER IT RHETORICAL AND PLEASE MOVE ON WITH YOUR REMARKS.
IF WE CHOOSE TO ANSWER, IT'LL BE AT THE END OF YOUR REMARKS AND WE PROBABLY WILL CHOOSE NOT TO ANSWER.
SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE DO SO AT THIS TIME.
HI, RAY ROCKEL FROM 3 74 VISTA DRIVE.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OTHER THAN, UH, I LIVE DOWN BY DRIVELESS IN SECOND HALF, AND I'M NOT SURE AS PART OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY OR NOT.
CLEARLY THE LIGHT ISN'T IN AND THERE ISN'T A CIRCLE, BUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY MADE WITH JUST THE SIGNAGE ON THE STREETS AND ON THE, WOW, I THINK IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
I HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THERE WHEN IT'S BEEN TRAFFICKING, IF YOU WILL SAY THAT'S NOT A TERM, BUT, UH, CLEARLY THE SIGNS SHOULD HELP PEOPLE APPROACH THAT AREA.
SO I HOPE IT'S A SAFER SPOT NOW.
UH, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE MAJOR CHANGES IN THE FUTURE, BUT JUST WANNA SAY ANYTHING THAT THE TOWNSHIP HAD TO DO WITH THAT, UH, GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHTS ON KIND OF CLEANING UP THAT AREA.
UH, VICTORIA BRIGHT 360 4 VISTA DRIVE.
THANK YOU RAY AND THANK YOU BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.
UM, AS ACTUALLY RAY INDICATED, APPRECIATE THE SIGNAGE AT THE CORNER AT THAT'S IN A, THAT'S A GREAT IMPROVEMENT.
IT CONFUSES A FEW FOLKS LIKE ME BECAUSE WHEN I'M COMING OUT OFF OF DRIV ABYSS, I NEED TO KNOW WHICH WAY I'M GOING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A GOOD SIGN FOR US TO REMEMBER WHICH WAY TO GO ON ONE 13.
UM, THERE IS SOME, UH, UH, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS IF MAYBE THE TOWNSHIP MANAGER COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE SIGNAGE, CUZ THERE IS A QUESTION WHEN YOU'RE COMING FROM THE SPRING CITY ROYERS FORD AREA, IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN INDICATION TO TURN RIGHT TO, UH, WHICH WOULD BE ON TO DRIVABLE THIS ROAD IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ONE 13, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NOT ACCURATE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KIND OF, SO IF YOU, IF YOU COULD JUST MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, THANK YOU, UH, FOR, UH, TO THE BOARD AGAIN FOR, UH, TAKING A LOOK AT OUR EMAILS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE FRIENDS OF, OF PARKHOUSE.
AND THANK YOU FOR POSTING THE TWO DOCUMENTS, UH, THE APPRAISAL REPORT AND THE, UH, NATURAL LANDS TRUST REPORT ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, I AM VERY IMPRESSED BY THE NATURAL LANDS TRUST.
UM, IT GIVES A, A GREAT, UH, KIND OF, UH, OVERVIEW OF HOW, UH, VALUABLE CONSERVING OPEN SPACE IS, UH, FOR OUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN, OUR FUTURE.
UM, CLEARLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID TAKE A LOOK AT, AND I DID, I ONLY HAD
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A FEW MOMENTS TO LOOK AT IT TODAY IN BETWEEN WORK MEETINGS AND WHATNOT, UM, WAS IT DOES ASSUME, UH, I GUESS BOTH IN THE APPRAISAL AND IN THE ACTUAL, UH, NATURAL LAND'S REPORT, IT DOES ASSUME THAT THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING.SO I'M ASSURED THAT WHEN FOLKS WERE WALKING AROUND AND DOING THE ASSESSMENT AND THE APPRAISAL, THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE A, A CURRENT PROPOSAL ON, ON HAND THAT IS, UH, RECOMMENDING, UH, THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 1,203 UNITS, UM, OF MIXED USE HOUSING.
SO I'M SURE THAT THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION THAT THEY TOOK INTO THAT.
YEAH, I JUST, UH, AT THE TOP OF THAT APPRAISAL, JUST BEAR IN MIND THE, THE ASSUMPTION WAS, AND I THINK THAT ASSUMPTION HE HAS TO MAKE IS THAT THE, UH, THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL IS APPROVED.
THAT'S THE WAY, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER MM-HMM.
RIGHT? AND, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK MR. STARLING, WHICH WAS, AND AGAIN, I, I RECOGNIZE THAT COMMENTS CAN'T BE, UH, NECESSARILY, UM, VOICED AT THIS TIME, BUT I PULLED OFF TODAY OF THE, UH, THE COUNTY'S, UH, RECORDER OF DEEDS, A VALUE, UM, THAT WAS RECORDED IN, UH, NOVEMBER, 2021 OF, UH, A CONSIDERATION AMOUNT OF $8,000,436, 654, YOU KNOW, 8.4 MILLION, AND THEN AN ASSESSED VALUE AT 4.2 MILLION.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WAS THE, BECAUSE IT'S AN ASSESSED VALUE, NOT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE THAT THAT WAS ASSUMING NO DEVELOPMENT, UM, ASSUMING DEVELOPMENT AND IT JUMPS UP TO 4 MILLION OR 41 MILLION, 49 MILLION, WHATEVER THAT PRICE TAG IS, IT'S KIND OF A QUITE A STRETCH.
UM, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT LAWYERS FOR HOLDINGS APPARENTLY DID SELL THE ACTUAL, UM, NURSING HOME PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY ASSESSED IN THAT PROPERTY.
SO IF THEY SOLD THAT, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL FAIR MARKET VALUE PROPERTY, HOW CAN THEY VALUE FARMLAND AT 49 MILLION WHEN IT'S NOT BEEN APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT? SO THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.
I'M, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND ALL THE PROCESSES AROUND ASSESSMENTS AND, AND TAXES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY OTHER PEOPLE ARE ASKING THE SAME THING.
IF THE ACTUAL BUILDING THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN SOLD OFF, WHY IS THE PROPERTY ITSELF VALUED AT 49 MILLION, THE FARM ITSELF? SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS EVENING.
BILL FELTON, 1 33 OLD STATE ROAD THOUGHT MIGHT AS WELL SAY A FEW COMMENTS.
UH, MY WIFE WAS THERE WITH OUR GRANDCHILDREN A WEEK OR SO AGO, AND SHE'S MADE SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, SO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT MYSELF.
BUT, UH, YEAH, YOUR COMMENTS ARE TAKEN WELL BY THIS FAMILY AS WELL.
UM, REGARDING THE NATURAL LENS, UH, ASSESSMENT, I JUST HAD A QUICK OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO LOOK THROUGH THERE.
I MEAN, I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB IN, IN, UH, LOOKING AT THE BIODIVERSITY AND, UH, THE CREEK AND THE SEEPS AND THE SPRINGS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UH, THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES UP AND DOWN THE RIVER.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT SOME OTHER TIME OR VENUE TO DISCUSS IN DETAIL WITH WHAT, UH, WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE SAID ARE, BUT, UH, I THINK THERE'S A, A, A TOWNSHIP PROPERTY OVER BY DOMINGO CREEK AND BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY AND UH, AND THE PARKHOUSE PROPERTY, THERE'S PROBABLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME CONNECTIVITY, UH, GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE, UH, CONSIDERED DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, AND THE APPRAISAL, YEAH, THE, THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE BEING THROWN AROUND, UH, I THINK I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS ON THE METHODOLOGY AND THE COMPS THAT THEY USED OTHER THAN TO SAY IF THEY WERE TO DONATE THAT LAND, IT'D BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
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IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? SEE NO.AND RISE, WE'LL MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
[EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT ]
UM, WE HAD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION YESTERDAY, ACTUALLY.UM, AND, UH, THE TOPIC DISCUSSED WITH THE REAL ESTATE MATTER.
[APPROVAL OF BILL LIST ]
AND WE HAVE THE BILL LIST.I'M SURE EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK IN THE PACKET, ALL ENTERTAIN MOTION ON THAT.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FROM MARCH ONE TO MARCH 31ST, 2023 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,076,833 AND 54 CENTS.
ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FROM OF MARCH ONE THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2023 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,076,833 AND 54 CENTS.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A PACK OF, UH, WHERE WE HAD A SET OF, UH, MINUTES FROM OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING IN THERE, MARCH 20TH.I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MARCH 20TH, 2023 BOARD SUPERVISOR REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
THE SECOND TO APPROVE THE MARCH 20TH 23, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY HI, AYE.
AND WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING, AND, UH, THEN
[OLD BUSINESS ]
WE MOVE ON TO A PIECE OF OLD BUSINESS.AND, UH, I'M VERY HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE, UH, LABOR UNIT FOR THE UPPER PROVIDENCE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE ASSOCIATION, AND, UH, I KNOW WE'VE ALL REVIEWED IT.
WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING IT FOR, UH, QUITE A FEW MONTHS NOW.
AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO THANK THE TOWNSHIP NEGOTIATING TEAM AND THE NEGOTIATORS FROM THE, UH, FROM THE LABOR UNIT AND, UH, HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER, UH, ON A CONTRACT AND, UH, NOT HAVE TO GO TO ARBITRATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT THREE YEAR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO RATIFY THE THREE YEAR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE ASSOCIATION, EFFECTIVE RETROACTIVE PLEA FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RATIFY THE THREE YEAR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE ASSOCIATION, EFFECTIVE RETROACTIVE ACTIVELY FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
[NEW BUSINESS ]
UH, NEW BUSINESS, UH, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 18 PERTAINING TO THE DESTRUCTION OF TOWNSHIP DOCUMENTS AND RECORDS.AND, UH, WE WILL SAY WORD ABOUT THAT.
I JUST MENTIONED THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE BOARD ADOPTED A RESOLUTION WHERE WE THEN ADOPTED THE PENNSYLVANIA HISTORIC MUSEUM COMMISSION'S, UH, SORT OF GOLD STANDARD ON RECORD RETENTION IN PENNSYLVANIA.
IT IDENTIFIES ANY RECORD THAT TAP CAN BE IN POSSESSION OF, AND THE TIME TIMEFRAME, UH, THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT BEFORE IT CAN BE DISPOSED OF, UM, THAT, THAT PHR PHMC MANUAL REQUIRES.
AT ANY TIME THE TOWNSHIP DESTROY RECORDS PERMANENTLY, UH, WE BRING THE THEM TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND ANSWER YOUR BLESSING BEFORE WE TAKE THAT ACTION.
SO THE, UH, EXHIBIT TO THE RESOLUTION LIST, THE TYPE OF RECORDS, THE NUMBER OF YEARS, OR SUPPOSED TO RE RETAIN THOSE.
UH, AND IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD TONIGHT, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE DESTROYED IN THE SHREDDING EVENT THAT WE'RE HOLDING IN MAY, I THINK.
UM, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 20 23 18 PERTAINING TO THE DESTRUCTION, DESTRUCTION OF TOWNSHIP DOCUMENTS AND RECORDS.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 18 PERTAINING TO THE DESTRUCTION OF TOWNSHIP DOCUMENTS AND RECORDS.
AND, UH, NEXT IS, UH, AND WE'VE DONE THIS THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
UH, THIS IS THE UP EXCLAMATION POINT MUSIC FEST IN 2023 THAT WE HAVE OUT HERE IN THE SUMMERTIME.
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JUNE 3RD.AND, UH, AND THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THE SAME THING.
WE'LL, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY TAKE THESE SEPARATELY.
AND THAT'S THE, UH, TOWN COMMUNITY FEST AND THAT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A SMALL BEER GARDEN WELL CONTAINED, HOPEFULLY.
AND, UH, WE'VE HAD GOOD SUCCESS WITH THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 20 23 19, ALLOWING THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AT A TOWNSHIP PARK FOR UP MUSIC FEST.
I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 19, ALLOWING THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AT A TOWNSHIP PARK FOR THE UP MUSIC FEST.
AND, UH, THE NEXT THING IS THE SAME THING FOR COMMUNITY DAY.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 20, ALLOWING THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL LATER TOWNSHIP PARK FOR COMMUNITY FALL FEST 2023.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION.
2023 DASH 20 LINE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AT THE TOWNSHIP PARK FOR THE COMMUNITY FALL FEST 2023.
AND, UH, OUR NEXT PIECE OF BUSINESS IS TO AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE OF TOWNSHIP ON THE PROPERTY OR VEHICLES ON MUNICIPAL.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY GOT AN EMAIL LATE THIS AFTERNOON.
IT'S THREE VEHICLES THAT WERE POLICE VEHICLES THAT, UH, WERE GETTING READY, READY TO RETIRE, AND, BUT STILL RETAINED SOME VALUE.
SO WERE GONNA AUCTION THEM OFF.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE OF TOWNSHIP OWNED PROPERTY VEHICLES ON BID.COM.
I, A MOTION TO SECOND TO AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE OF TOWNSHIP OWN PROPERTY VEHICLES ON MUNICIPAL.COM.
[MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS ]
AND, UH, NOW WE'RE NOW THE MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT OF REPORTS.AND, UH, DOES SOMEONE HAVE A REPORT, UH, ON FREEDOM VALLEY MEDICAL RESCUE MUNICIPAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE? UH, GOOD EVENING.
UM, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT FREEDOM VALLEY, UH, THEY'RE NO LONGER LOCATED PHYSICALLY IN TRAP FIRE COMPANY.
THEY'VE COMPLETED THAT SEPARATION.
UH, THEY HAVE SECURED HOUSING FOR THE HAMILTON, THE CRUISE AT 4 24 MAIN STREET IN COLLEGEVILLE, WHICH IS WHERE THEY'RE RESPONDING OUT.
IS THAT THE NEW ONE RIGHT AGAINST THE HER SINUS CAMPUS? YES.
IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE, THE CAMPUS FACILITY.
UH, AND THEY, THEY WORK, THE COLLEGE WILL HELP 'EM WORK A DEAL WITH THEIR SINUS TO GET THAT IT'S A TEMPORARY, UH, LOCATION FOR THEM UNTIL THEY ARE ABLE TO SECURE WHERE THEY PERMANENTLY WANT TO BE.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SERVE THE BOROUGH OF COLLEGEVILLE FROM THERE.
THEY ARE SERVING COLLEGEVILLE, THEY'RE SERVING HALF A PERIO, AND THEY'RE STILL SERVING THE AREA OF UPPER PROVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY SERVING.
SO WE DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES.
LIKE MIKE? HUH? LIKE YOUR HOUSE.
WE DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES IN THE RESPONSE AREA THAT THE AMBULANCE IS GOING TO AT THIS POINT.
UM, ONCE WE SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THE FACTS AND THE TIME AND THE DISTANCES THAT THEY'RE RESPONDING, I, I THINK THE SWITCH WOULD BE THE AREA OF PROBABLY PERK AND WOODS WOULD GO TO FREEDOM VALLEY AWAY FROM FRIENDSHIP.
AND THE AREA OF LIKE, PJP WOULD PROBABLY GO TO THE FRIENDSHIP AND AWAY FROM FREEDOM VALLEY.
BUT I, I WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THINGS STABILIZE A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE NOT CERTAIN THAT THEY'RE GONNA REMAIN THERE.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET CHANGES IN THE COUNTY CAD SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S A PROCESS WHENEVER WE GO THROUGH THAT.
UM, SO IT, IT IT'S JUST, IT'S MORE RESPONSIBLE IN OUR PART, THIS SORT OF LED THINGS STATUS QUO UNTIL WE GET A BETTER PICTURE, A BETTER IDEA OF FREEDOM VALLEY, THE SUSTAINABILITY OF FREEDOM VALLEY, WHETHER WHERE THE LOCATION'S GONNA END UP BEING.
AND ONCE, ONCE THAT'S, WELL, INEVITABLY THE DUST IS SETTLED, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO LOOK AT ALL THE FACTS AT THAT POINT AND, AND, AND READ THE REASSIGN THE RESPONSE AREAS.
THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT FREEDOM VALLEY HAS DONE IS THEY'VE, UH, CREATED A, AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT IS MADE UP OF WHAT ARE THE NOW 12 MUNICIPALITIES THAT THEY SERVE.
UM, WITH TIM'S BLESSING, I'LL BE THE, UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE, EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WILL HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE THAT SITS ON THAT, AND THAT BECOMES A ADVISORY TO THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S OUR SORT OF OUR WAY OF HAVING A SAY OR AT LEAST AN INPUT INTO THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE GOING AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
AND IT'S A POSITIVE WAY FOR THEM TO GET INFORMATION
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BACK TO US.SO IT'S THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT AT THIS POINT.
UM, THEY'RE, THEIR RESPONSE IS SORT OF WHERE IT HAD BEEN.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL STRUGGLING TO GET MEDICS AND EMTS, BUT MOST AMBULANCES ARE, UM, AND, AND THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF THE CHANGEOVER GOING FROM BOTH TRAP AND HARLEYSVILLE TO THEY'RE FREEDOM VALLEY, BUT IT, IT'S COMING TOGETHER FOR THEM.
THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE FOUR OF THE AMBULANCES ARE GETTING OUT MORE THAN THEY HAD BEEN.
UM, WITH THE LOSS OF PHOENIXVILLE, THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE EMPLOYEES AND KIND OF SHIFT THEM INTO THE OTHER STATIONS, WHICH HAS BEEN ADVANTAGEOUS TO US.
WHO SERVING TRAP BOROUGH FOR NOW? SKIP BACK AMBULANCE, SKIP BACK, SERVES TRAP BOROUGH FROM SKIP BACK FROM THEIR STATION.
WE GOT
AND THEN THEY JUMP OVER AND THEY STILL GOT A LITTLE BIT OF OVER PROVIDENCE UP HERE AND, BUT IN THE MIDDLE WE'VE GOT SKIP BACK COMING OVER.
NOW SKIP BACK DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF PERVIEW IN THE TOWNSHIP.
I KNOW, AND, AND I HAVE A CONVERSATION STARTER THOUGH FOR 30 YEARS.
WE, IF, IF, IF SKIP BACK DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT AN ANIMAL IN TRAP BOROUGH OR IN THE FIREHOUSE OR SOMEPLACE ELSE, THEN WE WOULD CERTAINLY REEVALUATE OUR RESPONSES.
OUR GOAL IS TO RE TO HAVE THE CLOSEST AMBULANCE RESPOND TO, TO THE ENTIRE TOWNSHIP.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE SERVICED BY LOWER PROVIDENCE FRIENDSHIP AND, AND PRIA VALLEY.
BUT IF SKIP BACK AS THEY ARE NOW IS GOING TO RESPOND FROM THEIR STATION, WHICH IS ON MENS ROAD OFF OF ONE 13, WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN THEM ANYWHERE IN UPPER PROVIDENCE.
THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT THE CLOSEST A SUPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
UM, I WOULD RUN, I WOULD RUN FREEDOM VALLEY OUT OF THE LIMERICK STATION AT A LIMERICKS FIREHOUSE BEFORE I RAN TO YOUR HOUSE, BEFORE I EVER RAN, SKIP BACK ALL THE WAY OVER THERE.
IT'S JUST FAR, THIS IS SO COMPLICATED FOR A PUBLIC DISCUSSION, BUT, SO YOU MAKE A 9 1 1 CALL, YOU LIVE IN AN IN TRACK BOROUGH.
ARE THEY GOING TO SEND THAT CALL TO SKIP BACK AMBULANCE EVEN THOUGH IT, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THERE'S AN AMBULANCE CLOSER AND AVAILABLE, SAY FROM FREEDOM VALLEY SITTING IN COLLEGEVILLE OR, SO THE COUNTY HAS, UM, EIGHT OR NINE WHAT THEY CONSIDER PRIORITY ONE CALLS CARDIAC ARREST, UNRESPONSIVE, UM, SERIOUS, SERIOUS LIFE-THREATENING, UH, MEDICAL EMERGENCIES ON A PRIORITY ONE CALL THE COUNTY WILL DISPATCH THE CLOSEST AMBULANCE ALONG WITH THE AMBULANCE THAT'S DUE FOR THAT AREA.
SO THEY IN TURN, UH, LOOK AT THE, ALL THE THREE OF THE AMBULANCE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY HAVE MDCS, WHICH HAVE GPS IN THE AMBULANCES.
THEY LOOK AT THE GPS ON THEIR, ON THEIR DISPATCH SCREEN AND IT SAYS THIS AMBULANCE IS CLOSER, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THEIR STATION OR RETURNING FROM A HOSPITAL, THEY'LL SEND THAT AMBULANCE ALONG WITH THE CLOSEST AMBULANCE.
SO IF FREEDOM VALLEY IS IN THEIR STATION AND A CARDIAC ARREST COMES IN IN TRAP, THE CAD SHOULD SAY SEND FREEDOM BALLOT CUZ THEY'RE CLOSER AS WELL AS SKIP BACKS AMBULANCE TO IT.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE OF PENNSYLVANIA, THE MUNICIPALITY GETS TO SAY WHO THEY WON FOR THEIR AMBULANCES.
SO MONTGOMERY COUNTY IS, THEY LISTENED TO WHAT THEY'RE TOLD BY THE MUNICIPALITIES.
TRAP BOROUGH SAID WE WANT SKIP BACK AMEL DISPATCH, THE CAD RECOGNIZED THAT SKIP BACK IS THE PRIMARY HAMILTON TRAP BOROUGH AND THAT'S WHO THEY DISPATCHED.
LET MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT STATION IS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR SKIP BACK, WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY ONE 13, IT'S THE ONE ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO 73 HERE, JUST RIGHT UP THE ROAD.
SO THE, THE FIREHOUSE IS ON ONE 13 LINE UP FOR THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE.
UH, UP JUST, JUST THIS SIDE OF THAT.
THERE'S A ROAD TO THE RIGHT, UM, THAT'S CALLED MENCH ROAD AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE THERE, THERE'S, SO THERE THAT'S THE FIRE OFFICER ESSENTIALLY BEHIND THE, THEY'RE THEY'RE SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT YES, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE MUNICIPALITY PICKED SKIP BACK? THAT IS CORRECT.
THEY WERE THE ONES THAT SELECTED THAT, THAT SKIP BACK AMBULANCE SERVED THEM AS UPPER PROVIDENCE IS SELECTED THAT LOWER PROVIDENCE AND FRIENDSHIP AND FREEDOM VALLEY ARE SERVING OUR TOWNSHIP.
UM, WE, WE CHOSE THAT WE, IF IT WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE, BUT IF WE WENT TO THEM AND SAID WE WANT POTTSTOWN TO RESPOND FROM POTTSTOWN AND TOLD THE COUNTY THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THAT'S WHO THE COUNTY WOULD DISPATCH.
WE, WE WOULD NEVER DO THAT BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
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OUR THEORIES, OUR OUR IDEAS ARE THAT WE'RE GONNA RESPOND WHO'S CLOSEST.WE DO THAT WITH THE FIRE COMPANIES AND WE DO THAT WITH THE AMBULANCES.
A QUICK QUESTION, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE TOPIC CAUSE I KNOW TRAP IS REBUILDING THEIR FIRE HATS.
WHEN THEY DO THAT, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA BE STATIONED? SO THE, THE NEWS STATION THAT THEY PROPOSED IS ON THE EXACT SAME SPOT, EX IN THE EXACT SAME LOT.
SO THE, THE OLD STATION IS ON THIS SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT.
IF YOU GO STRAIGHT OUTTA THE BAY, THERE'S GRASS THAT'S LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WHERE THE APPARATUS PULLS OUT IN THAT GRASS IS WHERE THE STATION WILL BE LOCATED.
SO TRAPS, FIREHOUSE AND TRAPS WILL REMAIN IN SERVICE WORKING OUT OF THE OLD FIREHOUSE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FIREHOUSE.
AND THEN THEY'LL SIMPLY BE ABLE TO SWITCH, SWITCH ACROSS THE PARKING LOT.
DESTRUCTION SERVICE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE TOWNSHIP.
THEY'VE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THEIR BUILDING PLANS WHEN THEY DESIGNED THE S WAS THE, OR WHEN THEY DESIGNED THE BUILDING, I'M SORRY, TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD A PLACE FOR THEM TO REMAIN IN SERVICE WITHOUT THE DISRUPTION NOT PUTTING 'EM IN A TENT OR SOMEPLACE ELSE.
SO THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU WOULD SEE SOMEBODY DIFFERENT IS IF, IF SKIP BACK.
NOW THEY HAVE TWO AMBULANCES, ONE'S IN WARCHESTER DURING THE DAY.
THE OTHER'S IN SKIP BACK, THE WARCHESTER AMBULANCE DOESN'T COME, THE SKIP BACK.
IF THE SKIP BACK AMBULANCE IS ON ANOTHER CALL, THEN THEY'LL SEND A COVER AMBULANCE AND, AND GENERALLY THAT'S, THEY HAVE IT WORKED OUT THAT THAT BECOMES THE NEXT CLOSEST AMBULANCE JUST LIKE WE DO IN THE TOWNSHIP HERE.
AND THAT, AND THAT HAPPENS QUITE FREQUENTLY, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD.
THE, THE AMBULANCES COVER EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME.
BECAUSE LITTLE TRIVIA, THE HOUSE FIRE ON SUMMIT ROAD, THAT WAS UH, LIKE TWO 30 IN THE MORNING, RIGHT? YES.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THE RESPONSE TIME WAS WHEN YOU GOT THE CALL, WHEN YOU WERE GONE.
UH, SUMMIT WAS, UH, I THINK WE WERE ON LOCATION IN FOUR AND A HALF MINUTES.
WE HAD THE BULK OF THE FIRE KNOCKED OUT WITHIN THREE MINUTES AFTER THAT.
UM, WE HAD ANOTHER ONE THIS PAST WEEK THAT WAS IN TRAP BOROUGH OFF OF, UM, YEAH,
WILLIAMS WAY OFF OF WILLIAMS WAY.
WE HAD FIRE EX INVOLVED IN TWO TOWN HOMES EXTENDING INTO A THIRD.
UM, OUR ENGINE ARRIVED ON LOCATION IN, NOW AGAIN, THIS WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
SO WE ARRIVED ON LOCATION IN EIGHT MINUTES.
UH, WE WERE FIRST THERE, TRAP WAS COMING OUT OF THEIR STATION AS WE ARRIVED WITH THEIR LADDER WITH A CREW OF FIVE, UM, WITHIN FIVE MINUTES.
AND, AND THERE WAS FIRE THROUGH THE ROOF.
YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, YOU COULD, AS I WAS COMING UP THE STREET AND TURNED AT ONE 13 ONTO ONE 13, UH, OFF ONE 13, I COULD SEE THE FIRE FROM THERE.
SO THAT THERE, A LOT OF FIRE WAS IN FIVE MINUTES, 13 MINUTES AFTER THEY WERE DISPATCHED, THE BULK OF THE FIRE WAS OUT.
IF WE STOPPED THE FIRE RIGHT THERE, UH, WE HAD ONE IN RIVER CEST FOUR WEEKS AGO ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
UM, AS THEY WERE, AS THE DISPATCH WAS COMPLETED.
CAUSE THEY PUT WHAT'S CALLED A PRE-ALERT OUT.
SO THE GUYS HEARD THAT THEY WERE ALREADY IN THE ENGINE.
THEY WERE DRIVING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AS THE DISPATCH WAS GOING ON THAT FIRE IN A GARAGE.
AND WITHIN TWO MINUTES OF ARRIVING ON LOCATION, THE FIRE WAS OUT AND YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T GET A REPORT ON THAT BECAUSE IT WAS, IT, IT ENDED UP BEING A VERY MINOR FIRE.
UM, BUT THE NEXT NEW ENGINE, WHICH CAME OUT OF TRAP AND, AND THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, TIME, DISTANCE, TRAVEL GO THROUGH THE GATES, EVERYTHING ELSE, IT WAS 13 MINUTES BEFORE THEY ARRIVED AND FIRE DOUBLES EVERY 30 SECONDS IN SIZE.
IT WAS A 6,500 SQUARE FOOT HOME, IT HAD BURNED TO THE GROUND.
SO IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THE AND THE HOUSE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ITEM SUMMIT THAT IF WE HAD NOT HAD 24 HOUR CAREER FIREFIGHTERS, THAT HOUSE WOULD'VE BEEN URGE OF GROUND.
IT WOULD'VE, IT WOULD'VE IT ADVANCED UP THE OUTSIDE WALL ACROSS THE CEILING OF THE MASTER BEDROOM, SORT THE DROPDOWN AND WAS MOVING INTO THE MAIN ATTIC.
SO YEAH, THE SYSTEM'S WORKING.
IT IT IS ABSOLUTELY 100% WORKING.
UM, EVERY SINGLE CALL WE GO TO, IN FACT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT OUR STAFF MEETING ON THURSDAY.
UM, JUST HOW PROUD I AM OF, OF WHAT, HOW WELL THE GUYS ARE DOING.
NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET.
THE THE SYSTEM CAME TOGETHER BECAUSE OF, WE HAD A FAST RESPONSE FROM THE CAREER ENGINE AND WE HAD A GREAT SUPPORT STRUCTURE BUILT IN ON OUR INITIAL DISPATCH FROM ALL THE VOLUNTEER COMPANIES.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WORKING AND IT'S WORKING GREAT RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THE HYBRIDS WORKING VOLUNTEERS.
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THAT'S, YEAH.WE CRITIQUED THE, THE, THE TRAP FIRE AND UH, UH, THERE, THERE WAS TWO VERY, VERY MINOR THINGS THAT WE CAME UP WITH AND THEY WERE BOTH KIND OF STUPID, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DID WRONG.
SO, UH, IT WENT THAT WELL, IT TRULY, THEY'RE, THEY ARE TRULY, TRULY WORKING THAT WELL.
AND I, AND I SAY THIS TO TONIGHT, WE'LL BURN A BUILDING DOWN, UM, THAT IT'LL BURN DOWN BECAUSE IT HAPPENED BEFORE WE GOT THERE.
WE JUDGE HOW WELL WE DO IF THE DAMAGE IS DONE BEFORE WE ARRIVE ON LOCATION.
IF WE PULL UP AND, AND A HOUSE AND THERE, THE HOUSE IS WELL INVOLVED WITH FIRE.
WE, WE AREN'T PUTTING THAT, WE AREN'T UNDOING THAT.
BUT IF THERE'S A BEDROOM THAT'S BURNING AND WE STOP IT AT THE BEDROOM, WE'VE DONE OUR JOB.
WE'VE DONE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
UM, IT'S HAPPENING THROUGHOUT ALL THE COMPANIES THAT WE'RE USING.
YOU GUYS HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU MADE SOME GREAT DECISIONS THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND, AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR IT BECAUSE, UH, THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWNSHIP ARE THE, ARE THE, THE WINNERS HERE.
MIKE, THANK YOU FOR BEING SUCH A GOOD LEADER.
AND NOT ONLY NOT JUST CROSS MUNICIPALITIES IN THIS COG MODEL, BUT TOO THANK YOU MUNICIPAL P OKAY.
ANY, UH, TIM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? I JUST WANTED TO,
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UM, TELL EVERYBODY, I THINK THE STREET LIGHT PROGRAM IS PRETTY MUCH WINDING DOWN.WE DO YOU WANT GIVE, GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT, TOM AND UH, WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT THE PRO, UH, ROADS, PROJECT A AND B CAUSE I THINK THOSE ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
SO, UH, THE STREET LAY PROGRAM IS COMPLETED AT THIS POINT, UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO MINOR PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH 500 S HAVE BEEN CHANGED OUT.
I THINK EVERYTHING LOOKS FABULOUS OUT THERE.
WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE EXPERIENCING QUITE A BIT OF SAVINGS ALREADY AND STREETLIGHT REPAIR REPAIRS, WE PROBABLY DO THREE TO FIVE A WEEK.
SO THAT WOULD PUT US SOMEWHERE AROUND 15 SINCE WE'VE REPLACED THESE.
SO THERE'S A HUGE SAVINGS JUST RIGHT THERE ON ALONE PLUS THE ELECTRIC.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT'S COMPLETE AT THIS POINT.
UM, 2000 OR 2023 ROAD PROJECTS, UH, PROJECT DAY AND PROJECT B ARE BOTH STARTING THE WEEK OF THE 24TH NEXT WEEK.
UM, THERE'LL BE SOME INCONVENIENCES DURING THE DAY ON YEAGER ROAD JUST BECAUSE WE FEEL IT'S BETTER TO SHUT IT DOWN DURING THE DAY.
SO IT'LL BE SHUT FROM SAY 7:00 AM WE'RE ASKING TILL FIVE, BUT UP BET THEY'LL BE OUT OF THERE AT THREE 30 OR FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND THAT SHOULD GO PRETTY QUICK.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA REOPEN ER ROAD AND AFTER WE PAVE THE ROAD, IT'LL HAVE TO SIT FOR 30 DAYS BEFORE WE CAN PUT THE HF S T THE HIGH FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENT DOWN.
SO THEN WE'LL BE BACK IN THERE AGAIN AND PROBABLY CLOSE IT FOR ANOTHER DAY TO DO THAT.
UH, PROJECT B'S GONNA START AS WELL, UH, NEXT WEEK.
SO ON YER, EXCUSE ME, ONE DAY, ONE DAY ON YEAGER AND THEN ANOTHER DAY TO PUT THE EXTRA SURFACE ON.
YEAH, WELL WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OUT THERE IS WE HAVE A BUNCH OF STORM INLETS AND SANITARY LISTS THAT WE'RE GONNA REPLACE.
THAT'S GONNA START ACTUALLY ON THE 24TH.
UM, AFTER THAT'S COMPLETE, THEY'LL COME BACK IN AND THEY'LL DO SOME MILLING AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME, UH, HANDICAPPED CURB MAP REPLACEMENT THERE AS WELL.
SO THERE COULD BE A WEEK OR SO OF THAT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MILL THE ROAD.
AND THEN, THEN WE'LL MOVE UP AND WE'LL MILL THE OTHER ROADS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL PAVE THEM ALL IN.
THEN 30 DAYS AFTER THAT, IT'LL CLOSE AGAIN PROBABLY FOR A DAY FOR THE HFS TEAM.
I THINK BY THE TIME THE SCHOOL LETS OUT, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH GONNA BE COMPLETE WITH OUR ROAD PROJECTS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS VERY EARLY.
HOW ABOUT, UH, JUST QUICK, QUICK PEN DOT, BLACKROCK, SOME OF THESE OTHER, SO, UH, BLACKROCK ROAD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PAV LAST YEAR WHEN THEY PAID ONE 13 AT LEAST TO GATES HEADWAY.
SO FROM ONE 13 THE GATES HEADWAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
AND NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR ME, SO THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.
I HAVE A FUNNY FEELING THEY LOOKED AT THE REST OF BLACKROCK ROAD ALL THE WAY TO 29 AND SAID MAYBE WE BETTER CONSIDER THIS AND DO THE WHOLE LENGTH OF IT.
CUZ IT REALLY NEEDS IT IN MY OPINION.
BUT THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN A SAME TIME ROLLING.
AND THEN WE'RE HOPING IN THE FUTURE SOON MAYBE THAT THEY'LL DO, UH, ONE 13 FROM YEAGER BLACKROCK DOWN IN THE TRAP.
THAT'S NOT VERY WELL, BUT I JUST DID SEE THAT THEY WENT AND STRIPED IT SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GONNA BE ANYTIME SOON CUZ THEY PUT FRESH STRIPES DOWN IN THERE.
WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? WE, UH, HAVE, WE HAVE OUR THURSDAY MEETING, SO, UM, FOR,
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SORRY, JUST BRIEF UPDATE ON THE TIN RUN PUMP STATION.THE GENERATOR IS IN INSTALL, I'M SORRY.
UH, RUN PUMP STATION, UPDATE THE GENERATORS IN AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH START FOR THAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON, UM, FINISHING OR REPAINTING GREEN? ANYTHING FROM THE WATER COMPANY? NO.
ANYTHING FOR YOUR ANTHONY? UH, I GUESS I COULD REPORT.
SO THE, UM, PRELIMINARY SUBMISSION FOR DRA THIS SECOND AVENUE, UH, ONE 13 IN TERMS OF THE SUBMISSION OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THAT WAS MADE EARLIER TODAY, SO.
UM, IT'S IN THEIR HANDS NOW FOR INITIAL REVIEW OF THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OF CONCEPTUAL PLANS IN, IN PEN'S, HANDS IN PEN'S, HANDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 30 DAYS OR SO, WE SHOULD BE GETTING OUR FIRST ROUND OF FEEDBACK NOW ON, ON YOUR, UH, CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS.
YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO USE MONOPOLY HOUSES,
UM, WHAT WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, ROUNDABOUT DOWN AT, UM, PROVIDENCE TOWN CENTER? WHAT WHAT ABOUT IT? OH, SORRY.
I MEAN IT'S, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, IT'S ALL, ALL THE CONSTRUCTIONS.
WELL, I HAD ASKED, I HAD ASKED CASEY TO LOOK INTO, SHOULDN'T THERE BE LIKE SIGNS THAT SLOW PEOPLE DOWN? OH, PRETTY GET SOMETHING ABOUT, YEAH.
SO ALL THE, UM, SO TO, TO GET BACK TO YOU I GUESS ON THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND SUGGESTION, UM, AS WE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE FINAL PUNCH LIST FOR THAT.
UM, IT WAS A REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPER TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND, UM, YEAH, DO FINAL INSPECTION.
SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT.
THAT'LL BE A RECOMMENDATION OF OURS TO INCORPORATE THAT ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE, UM, AS THEY ENTER FROM BOTH APPROACHES TO THE ROUNDABOUT IN TERMS OF THE ADVISORY SPEED.
UM, SO THAT MEANS ENGINEERING CRITERIA, UM, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL ADDED SIGN THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
I I'VE JUST HEARD ONE COMPLAINT.
PEOPLE FIND THE ROUNDABOUT CONFUSING, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S NEW.
PEOPLE AREN'T USED TO IT, BUT I THINK IF THEY ALSO SLOW DOWN A BIT, IT WILL HAVE MORE TIME TO READ THE MAP SIGNS.
YEAH, I THINK THE, IS CERTAINLY A LOT OF, UM, I THINK IT'S A SITUATION.
THE ROUNDABOUT IS CERTAINLY SLOWING EVERYBODY DOWN.
I THINK, UM, IT'S A LOT OF DRIVER BEHAVIOR THAT YOU TRY TO, FROM A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITH OUR C COALITIONS BASICALLY BEING A FREEWAY WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, AND NOW YOU HAVE THE ROUNDABOUT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY SLOWING EVERYBODY DOWN AS THEY'RE, AS THEY'RE APPROACHING.
UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SOME OF THOSE ADDED SIGNS AND TIME, UH, THAT, THAT'S A COMMON, UH, I WOULDN'T SAY COMPLAINT FEEDBACK THAT YOU GET, I GUESS AFTER A ROUNDABOUT IS INITIALLY INSTALLED IS, UH, CONFUSION, UNDERSTANDING.
I THINK A LOT OF THAT SHAKES OUT.
UM, IF IT WORKS, WORKS OUT OVER TIME.
I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S UH, ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE IN, UM, WITH SOME OF THESE SIGN ADJUSTMENTS AND THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF ADD AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UM, BUT DEFINITELY EXPERIENCE I THINK WILL HOPEFULLY HELP.
UM, OUR REPORT, THERE'S NO SOLICITOR HERE, SO NO SOLICITOR REPORT.
UM, SUPERVISOR'S COMMENTS? UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
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RIGHT.UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING SCHEDULE, MAY 5TH, MAY 15TH, UH, 7:00 PM JUNE 19TH, 7:00 PM UH, PLANNING COMMISSION FOR TOMORROW NIGHT HAS BEEN CANCELED BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE AGENDA.
THE NEXT, UH, SCHEDULED MEETING IS MAY 3RD.
UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL WILL MEET ON MAY 17TH, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION MEETS MAY 10TH, 6:00 PM UH, THE ENVIRONMENT ADVISORY COUNCIL IS ALSO 6:00 PM UH, MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY MEETS AGAIN JUNE 1ST AT 7:00 PM AND THE ZONING HEARING BOARD HAS NO MEETINGS SCHEDULED AT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, WITH THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.