[Board of Supervisors on June 21, 2021.]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR MONDAY, JUNE 21ST.
AND, UH, IF EVERYONE WOULD STAND AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH ME, PLEDGE TO THE FIVE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
WELL, THIS EVENING WE'RE ONE OF OUR, OUR FIRST TASK IS TO HONOR CHIEF TOY ON HIS RETIREMENT FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AFTER 44 YEARS AND AFTER SEVEN VERY FRUITFUL YEARS AS THE EXECUTIVE LEADER HERE, THE CHIEF OF POLICE IN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU MAKE A LEADERSHIP CHANGE AND AN ORGANIZATION BEGINS TO EXCEL AND THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PERFORMANCE IMPROVES DRAMATICALLY.
EVERYONE ASSUMES, WELL, THAT'S THE LEADER.
AND CERTAINLY THAT WAS A BIG PART OF IT.
BUT ANOTHER PART OF IT IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANGE IN, IN PERSONNEL AS LARGELY THE SAME POLICE OFFICER SERVING IN THE DEPARTMENT TODAY IS WE'RE SERVING BEFORE A CHIEF TO MEET.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THE PROFESSIONALISM, THE DEDICATION TO THE, TO THE CRAFT AND DEDICATION TO BE POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS TOWNSHIP HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
AND I APPRECIATE CHIEF TOOMEY SHINING IT UP AS HE KNOWS ABOUT SHINING THINGS UP AND, AND MAKING US LOOK SO GOOD.
AND WE ARE SO PROUD OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WANNA READ A LETTER THAT WE RECENTLY RECEIVED, AND I COULD READ, READ LOTS OF LETTERS THAT I HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT THE WORK OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK ON JUNE 10TH, DOWN IN LOWER PROVIDENCE, WE HAD A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION WITH, WITH SOMEONE BRANDISHING A FIREARM TO A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, AND THEN CAUSING EXPLOSIONS AND BURNING DOWN HALF OF A TOWNHOUSE, MULTI-FAMILY UNIT AND, UH, AND, AND, AND FIRE COMPANIES AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE SWAT TEAM RESPONDED FROM MUNICIPALITIES ALL AROUND.
AND THIS IS A LETTER TO CHIEF FREEMAN FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE, MICHAEL JACKSON IN LOWER PROVIDENCE.
DEAR CHIEF FREEMAN, I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO YOU AND YOUR OFFICERS, SERGEANT ROBERT ROBERT SOLARIO, SERGEANT ERIC SOUR MESH OFFICER MICHAEL SHEEHAN FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE IN THE INITIAL RESPONSE, PROLONGED FIRE SCENE AND LENGTHY INVESTIGATION INVOLVING TOM ROZI, WHO WAS THE SUSPECT IN THE CARD PLACE EXPLOSIONS IN STANDOFF WITH THE FIRST RESPONDERS ON JUNE 10TH, 2021.
WITHOUT THE ASSISTANCE OF YOUR OFFICERS, THE INCIDENT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AS SUCCESSFUL.
PLEASE EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO EVERYONE INVOLVED FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE AND THEIR BRAVERY IN THIS INCIDENT.
THE SPIRIT OF PROFESSIONAL COOPERATION, COLLABORATION THAT WAS DEMONSTRATED BY YOUR OFFICERS IS COMMENDABLE AND SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THE CALIBER AND PROFESSIONALISM OF YOUR DEPARTMENT.
IN THE FUTURE, IF I OR ANY MEMBER OF THE LAW, PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE DEPARTMENT, MAY BE OF ASSISTANCE TO YOUR DEPARTMENT, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME DIRECTLY.
SINCERELY, MICHAEL JACKSON, CHIEF OF POLICE.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE, THE KIND OF THING, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, I WAS WORKING IN THE GARDEN AND DAYDREAMING ABOUT MY NEPHEW'S GRADUATION AND GRADUATION PARTY THE NEXT DAY, I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT EXPLOSIONS AND, AND, AND FIREARMS. BUT OUR OFFICERS, BOTH, UH, POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS, AND I HAVE AN IDENTICAL LETTER TO OUR FIRE CHIEF, UH, PRETTY MUCH, UH, HAVE TO BE PREPARED ALL THE TIME, TRAINED AND READY TO GO AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE WORK THAT CHIEF TOOMEY DID.
AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA DO SOME OTHER THINGS.
HERE AGAIN,
WELL, IT HAS THE, UH, IT HAS THE STARS AND STRIPES IN THE BACKGROUND.
IT'S A HEAVY, I HAD THIS OUT OF THE BOX AND TIM WAS YAWN AT ME FOR GETTING MY FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER IT.
BUT, UM, IT, IT HAS THE STARS AND STRIPES IN THE BACKGROUND.
IT HAS THE LOGO OF POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT SAYS, CONGRATULATIONS ON
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YOUR RETIREMENT.CHIEF MARK, A TOY WITH GREAT, WITH GREAT HONOR AND RECOGNITION FOR YOUR LOYAL AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
WE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, PRESENT THIS, PRESENT THIS TO YOU AS A SYMBOL OF OUR DEEPEST GRATITUDE, BEST WISHES FOR ALL YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
BILL, LORI, HELENE, JOHN AND AL.
JUNE 21ST, 2021 HAPPY RETIREMENT.
AND AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS, CONGRATULATIONS ON 44 YEARS OF POLICE SERVICE.
SECOND, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD FOR, UH, THIS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.
OVER 44 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I'VE HAD PATTY BY MY SIDE AND SHE'S, UH, BEEN, YOU KNOW, A ST OF SUPPORT FOR ME AS I'VE GONE THROUGH THE VARIOUS PHASES OF MY CAREER.
COMING HERE WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST HIGHLIGHTS OF MY CAREER BECAUSE I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH EVERYBODY IN THIS DEPARTMENT.
UH, FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO THE TOWNSHIP MANAGEMENT, TO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO MADE UP THE STAFF AND THE, THE, UH, OFFICERS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, IT WAS REALLY A PRIVILEGE TO BE IN THEIR COMPANY AND TO WORK WITH HIM.
I APPRE APPRECIATED EVERYTHING THEY DID AND WITH ME THE WHOLE WAY.
I HAD MY SECOND IN COMMAND, WHICH WAS NOW CHIEF FREEMAN.
AND I AM JUST SO DELIGHTED THAT HE'S CHIEF HERE CUZ HE'S WORKED VERY HARD TO GET TO THIS POSITION.
HE WAS LOYAL, HE WORKED HARD, AND HE'S A VERY SMART, SHARP GUY.
AND HE'S GONNA BE A GREAT CHIEF HERE IN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS HONOR.
I GOTTA GO PICK UP SOME MORE STUFF.
WE SWORE IN, UH, CHIEF FREEMAN AS OUR NEW CHIEF OF POLICE.
AND, UH, NOW WE'RE GONNA SWEAR IN OUR NEW LIEUTENANT, HIS SECOND COMMAND.
YOU WANNA COME DOWN TO COME ON DOWN.
JUST WANNA READ HIS BIO FOR CERTAIN.
UH, RYAN SHEEHAN AND HIS WIFE, PLEASE, WILL YOU COME FORWARD? WILL YOU GIRLS? GO AHEAD,
UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO KINDA INTRODUCE, UM, SERGEANT SHEHAN, UH, TO EVERYONE HERE.
AND, UH, HE'S BEEN A, AN AMAZING OFFICER IN HIS, UM, HIS 10 YEAR CAREER WITH DR.
AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM.
RYAN WAS BORN IN AND GREW UP IN THE, UH, REDDING AREA WHERE HE GRADUATED FROM THE REDDING CENTRAL CLA HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, RYAN ATTENDED, HE GRADUATED FROM THE WESTCHESTER UNIVERSITY IN 2009 WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
HE THEN TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO PUT HIMSELF THROUGH THE DELAWARE COUNTY MUNICIPAL POLICE ACADEMY AND GRADUATED WITH HIS ACT ON 20 CERTIFICATION IN NOVEMBER OF 2010.
UH, RYAN BEGAN HIS POLICE CAREER, UH, AS A PATROLMAN FOR THE WESTCHESTER UNIVERSITY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN FEBRUARY OF 2011.
AND HE WORKED THERE UNTIL WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO, TO SNATCH HIM UP IN, UH, HE'S BEEN HERE, UH, IN OCTOBER OF THAT SAME YEAR AS AN OFFICER HERE WITH IN UPPER PROVIDENCE.
UH, RYAN HAS SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S MUNICIPAL DRUG TASK FORCE.
HE'S ON OUR BICYCLE PATROL UNIT.
HE IS A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER FOR NEW OFFICERS AS WELL.
ADDITIONALLY, FROM 2015 UNTIL THIS PAST MONTH, RYAN HAS SERVED AS AN OPERATOR FOR THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY SWAT WEST TEAM.
UH, RYAN WAS PROMOTED TO THE RANK OF A PATROL SERGEANT IN 2017 AND ASSUMED THE ROLE OF THE, UH, COORDINATOR FOR OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM FOR THE NEW OFFICERS.
UH, DURING HIS TENURE WITH UPPER PROVIDENCE RYAN HAS EARNED MULTIPLE COMMENDATIONS FOR LIFESAVING ACTIONS AND NUMEROUS COMPLIMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE WRITTEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EXPRESSING THEIR GRATITUDE FOR HIS SERVICE.
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RYAN AND THREE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED AN AWARD FROM THE FBI FOR LOCATING AND APPREHENDING THREE ACTORS WHO FLED AFTER COMMITTING AN ARMED ROBBERY IN LIMERICK TOWNSHIP.ADDITIONALLY, RYAN HAS ALSO EARNED SEVERAL ACCOMMODATIONS FOR HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE SAFE AND SUCCESSFUL RESOLUTION OF SERIOUS INCIDENTS, UH, BOTH WITH THE SWAT TEAM AND ON PATROL.
IN 2019, RYAN BEGAN PURSUING A MASTER'S DEGREE AT A ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY AS PART OF THEIR ONLINE MASTER OF ARTS IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
HE GRADUATED WITH HIS MASTER'S IN THE FALL OF 2020, UH, WITH A 4.0 GPA.
UH, RECENTLY RYAN WAS A RECIPIENT OF THE FBI LEADER TRILOGY AWARD.
THIS AWARD IS GIVEN TO OFFICERS WHO HAVE COMPLETED THE FBI LEAD SUPERVISORY COMMAND AND EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE CLASSES.
RYAN IS JOINED HERE TONIGHT, UH, BY HIS WIFE, AMANDA, UH, THE TWO DAUGHTERS, UH, ADDISON AND MAGGIE, UH, HIS PARENTS, DAVID AND CAROLYN, UH, SHEEAN AND OTHER FAMILY OWNERS AS WELL.
AND I BELIEVE MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU WILL DO THE HONORS FOR THE OATH.
NOW I'LL ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE IF YOU'VE RAISED YOUR RIGHT HAND.
RYAN SHEEHAN, HAVING BEEN DULY APPOINTED TO THE POSITION OF LIEUTENANT O OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE, HAVING BEEN DULY APPOINTED TO THE POSITION OF LIEUTENANT OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THAT I SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT, OBEY AND DEFEND, OBEY AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, THE CONSTITUTION OF LAWS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, THE ORDINANCE OF UPPER PRIVATE ORDINANCES OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP, THE ORDINANCES OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP, AND THAT I WILL, WILL PERFORM AND DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY POSITION AS POLICE LIEUTENANT WITH FIDELITY, AND THAT I'LL PERFORM AND DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF POLICE LIEUTENANT WITH FIDELITY.
WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO PIN A NEW BADGE ON.
WE, I GOT A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER.
I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE BOARD'S AGENDA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
I'LL SECOND, I'LL SECOND A MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
THERE'S A VIDEO, THERE'S A VIDEO, THERE'S, THERE'S A VIDEO SOMEBODY WANTS TO WATCH.
IN HIGH SCHOOL, UH, I HAD THIS IDEA THAT I WANTED TO BECOME A CHEF ONE DAY WHILE WORKING IN A RESTAURANT.
ONE OF THE WAITRESSES RAN INTO THE KITCHEN.
HE SAYS, DO YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT KNOWS CPR? OR DOES ANYONE IN THE KITCHEN KNOW CPR? AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.
WE WERE IN OUR, YOU KNOW, EARLY TWENTIES.
NO ONE REALLY KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
CURIOSITY GOT THE BETTER OF ME.
AND I WENT OUT TO THE DINING ROOM AND I SAW AN ELDERLY GENTLEMAN.
HE WAS LYING ON THE GROUND, AND THEY THOUGHT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A HEART ATTACK.
SO, WHILE THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE THAT WERE UPSET AND
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KIND OF, UH, ANXIOUS ABOUT THE WHOLE SCENARIO, INCLUDING MYSELF, IN WALKS TWO POLICE OFFICERS, THE VISUAL IMPACT THEY HAD COMING THROUGH THE DOOR, THEY LOOKED SO PROFESSIONAL, THEY JUST WERE SO CALM, AND THEY JUST KNEW WHAT TO DO.OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS, I JUST COULDN'T GET THAT IMAGE OUT OF MY HEAD.
SO I WENT TO MY FATHER AND I TOLD 'EM, I SAID, I THINK I MIGHT TRY THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT JOB.
I TOLD 'EM IT WOULD COST $2,500.
AND HE KIND OF, HE KIND OF GOT DEFLATED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY.
WE WERE NEVER RICH GROWING UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS EITHER FEAST OR FAMINE MOST OF THE TIME.
I FIGURED, WELL, I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO WORK A LITTLE HARD HERE AND, AND SAVE THAT MONEY MYSELF AND, AND DO WHAT I NEED TO DO.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST WASN'T GOING AWAY.
UH, HE CALLED ME ABOUT A WEEK LATER AND HE SAID, UH, STOP BY THE HOUSE.
SO I STOPPED BY THE HOUSE AND HE HANDS ME AN ENVELOPE, AND IT WAS $2,500.
PARENTS TRULY NEVER KNOW WHAT ACT OF KINDNESS OR, OR SACRIFICE THEY MAKE, UH, THAT'S REALLY GONNA IMPACT THEIR LIVES OF THEIR CHILDREN FOREVER.
MY NAME IS LIEUTENANT ULYSSES FREEMAN, SOON TO BE CHIEF FREEMAN.
I GOT THE CALL FROM UPPER PROVIDENCE IN DECEMBER OF 1991.
I STARTED IN 92 WHEN I STARTED IN 1994.
HE WAS A PATROLMAN, UH, JUVENILE OFFICER.
ESSENTIALLY, I WAS, UM, RESPONSIBLE FOR, TO INVESTIGATE ANY AND ALL JUVENILE ACTIVITY, WHETHER THEY WERE THE SUSPECT OF A CRIME OR THE VICTIM OF A CRIME.
BUT I THEN WENT TO DARE TRAINING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER DARE.
SO, AFTER DARE I DECIDED THAT I WANTED A KIND OF A NEW ADVENTURE IN POLICE WORK.
UH, SO I JOINED THE SWAT TEAM.
IT WAS, UM, IT WAS DEFINITELY A HIGHLIGHT OF MY CAREER.
DURING THAT TIME, WE GOT TO TRAVEL TO CALIFORNIA AND TRAIN WITH THE SPECIAL ENFORCEMENT BUREAU, WHICH IS THE LA SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
SWAT TEAM, WHICH IS A FULL-TIME TEAM, GOT TO TRAVEL TO ENGLAND TO, UH, TRAIN WITH ONE OF THEIR SWAT TEAMS. YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE LEARNED WHEN WE TRAVELED ABROAD LIKE THAT, OR ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE WOULD ALWAYS BRING BACK AND SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH THE REST OF THE TEAM TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY TECHNIQUES OR, UH, TACTICS THAT WE COULD USE, UH, THAT THEY WERE USING THAT WERE SUCCESSFUL.
HE'S THE TYPE OF GUY WHO SHARES HIS KNOWLEDGE.
HE BELIEVES THAT IT'S HIS JOB TO TEACH THE PEOPLE UNDER HIM TO REPLACE HIM.
AND, UH, HE'S, HE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS WE WERE ABLE TO BOUNCE OFF EACH OTHER.
AS WE MATURED THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT LEARNED OUR EXPERIENCE, WE WERE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE AS SUPERVISORS AND, AND LEADERS IN THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, SO AFTER THE, UH, AFTER THE SWAT TEAM, I DECIDED THAT, UH, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.
I'VE SEEN HOW HARD HE'S WORKED.
I'VE SEEN HIM PUT HIMSELF THROUGH SCHOOL, GET A MASTER'S DEGREE, GO TO THE FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY.
THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, I GOT PROMOTED TO CORPORAL, AND THEN SERGEANT, WHEN SHE, TO ME, UH, CAME ON BOARD, I GOT PROMOTED TO LIEUTENANT.
WHEN I CAME TO THIS DEPARTMENT, LIEUTENANT FREEMAN WAS A SERGEANT, AND I QUICKLY CAME TO REALIZE HIS, UH, ABILITIES.
AND IN JULY OF THE, UH, FIRST YEAR THAT I WAS HERE, PROMOTED AND APPOINTED, UH, LIEUTENANT FREEMAN TO, UH, THE POSITION OF LIEUTENANT.
AND HE'S BEEN MY SECOND COMMAND EVER SINCE.
THE WAY HE MENTORED ME AND REALLY BROUGHT ME ALONG IS SOMETHING THAT WILL LAST WITH ME FOREVER, AND IT'S SOMETHING I PLAN ON DOING FOR THE NEXT LIEUTENANT.
I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR LIEUTENANT FREEMAN TO BE THE, THE CHIEF AFTER ME FOR A LONG TIME.
I JUST RECOGNIZE HIS ABILITY IS ON PAR, IF NOT GREATER THAN MOST.
HE HAS ALL THE TOOLS TO DO THIS JOB.
HE WILL BE AN OUTSTANDING POLICE CHIEF, I CAN ASSURE YOU.
OH, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT STEP FORWARD, UH, FOR THE DEPARTMENT, FOR THE TOWNSHIP, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
HE'S GONNA BE THE SORT OF THE CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP AND, UH, STEER US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I KNOW THAT HE'S A, UH, DEDICATED BELIEVER LIKE MOST MODERN CHIEFS IN, UH, FOLLOWING THE, UH, 21ST CENTURY POLICING PLAN.
YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THOSE PILLARS, WORKING ON DIVERSITY, RETENTION OF OFFICERS TRAINING.
PART OF IT IS GONNA BE CONTINUING TO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
I, I THINK THAT CHIEF TOOMEY HAS REALLY SET A, A GREAT TONE FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, A GREAT DIRECTION.
WE HAVE BODY CAMERAS ALREADY, AND THE BODY CAMERAS HAVE BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
WE'VE HAD, UH, IN-CAR CAMERAS A LONG TIME, BUT CLEARLY POLICE WORK IS, IS REALLY ORGANIC.
IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN, BUT IT TRULY IS ORGANIC NOW, AND IT'S CHANGING RAPIDLY.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE WHERE WE SHOULD BE, UH, IN ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES THAT ARE CONTROVERSIAL.
AT THE MOMENT, HE'S REALLY FOCUSED ON BRINGING RELEVANCE AND REALISTIC TRAINING TO THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.
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YOU HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY.DEESCALATION, WHAT WE'VE SEEN AT LEAST, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF THROUGH THE MEDIA, THAT A LOT OF THOSE CONTACTS END, UH, VIOLENTLY WHERE THE SUSPECT IS SEVERELY INJURED OR, OR KILLED.
AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE MORE AND MORE TRAINING IN THOSE AREAS AS LAW ENFORCEMENT MOVES FORWARD.
THE TOOLS AND TECHNOLOGY THAT REALLY ALLOWS US TO USE A LESS LETHAL OPTION TO ALLOW OUR OFFICERS TO REALLY HAVE A PLETHORA OF OPTIONS FOR WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH, UH, CERTAIN SITUATIONS TO ENSURE AS BEST WE CAN, THAT THE OUTCOME IS REALLY GONNA BE A GOOD ONE FOR, FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT I'M CONSIDERING IS A CITIZEN ADVISORY BOARD, WHERE WE WOULD GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WE WOULD ASK PEOPLE TO JOIN OUR BOARD.
THE IDEA IS TO DISCUSS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DISCUSS ANY PROBLEMS OR ISSUES OR THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPLEMENTED, UH, TO REALLY OPEN THE DIALOGUE AND CONTINUE, UM, THIS GREAT RELATIONSHIP THAT I THINK THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS.
I WANT OTHER AGENCIES TO LOOK IT UP, A PROVIDENCE, SAY, THAT'S THE STANDARD I WANT FOR MY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND PLACE YOUR LEFT HAND ON THE BIBLE.
PARENTS TRULY NEVER KNOW WHAT ACT OF KINDNESS OR, OR SACRIFICE THEY MAKE, UH, THAT'S REALLY GONNA IMPACT THEIR LIVES OF THEIR CHILDREN FOREVER.
I, ULYSSES MARK FREEMAN, AYE, ULYSSES MARK FREEMAN.
THAT $2,500 SET ME ON A PATH OF NOW, 30 YEARS LATER, AND ON THE VERGE OF BECOMING THE NEXT CHIEF OF POLICE OF PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP THAT I WILL SUPPORT, OBEY, AND DEFEND.
AND I TOLD MY FATHER THAT STORY, UM, THIS YEAR.
AND WHEN I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS GONNA BE THE NEXT CHIEF ABOUT THE PROVIDENCE OF EVEN HE WAS SUFFERING FROM PNEUMONIA CONSTITUTION, AND HE TURNED TO ME IN TEARS, AH, STARTED COMING DOWN, HIS EYES STARTED CRYING.
HE'S REALLY HAPPY, AND THAT I WILL DISCHARGE AND THAT I WILL DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE, THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE.
I WAS JUST VERY HAPPY THAT I WAS ABLE TO AT LEAST SHARE THE NEWS WITH HIM.
LET'S SEE IF I'M BACK IN ORDER HERE AGAIN.
NOW WE'VE COME TO, TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR MEETING.
AND, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE COMMENT, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM IN THE FRONT, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR STREET ADDRESS.
AND THEN PLEASE, UH, TRY TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR SO.
YEAH, YOU MIGHT WAIT FOR THEM TO WANT ME WAIT FOR THEM.
ONCE THE DOOR IS CLOSED, WE SHOULD BE ALL RIGHT.
UM, I'M, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT, UM, A NOISE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH A COMPANY CALLED GRAPHIC PACKAGING.
AND THEY'RE ON, UM, ON, UH, LONGFORD ROAD, WHICH IS NOT CLOSE TO ME, BUT, UM, THEIR FANS ON THE TOP OF THEIR, UM, I MEAN, IT GOES CONSTANTLY.
THE, THE, THEIR, THE PACKAGING GOES CONSTANTLY, BUT THE FANS ON THE TOP OF ONE OF THEIR BUILDINGS EMIT THIS EXTREMELY ANNOYING SOUND.
IT'S KIND OF A CONSTANTLY, IT CAN GO ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT.
UM, I'M REALLY, IT GOES THROUGH MY WALLS, THROUGH MY WINDOWS, THROUGH EARPLUGS.
I'M TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN.
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I SPOKE WITH SOMEONE HERE, UM, WHO SAID I SHOULD COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU FOLKS, BRING IT UP TO YOU.UM, AND ALSO SUGGESTED THAT I CONTACT, UM, REPRESENTATIVE MELISSA SCHUMAN'S OFFICE BECAUSE GOOGLE TOWNSHIP IS ALSO HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THIS COMPANY AND MET WITH THEM LAST FALL.
UM, WHEN I SPOKE WITH REPRESENTATIVE CHIEF OF STAFF AT REPRESENTATIVE SCHUMAN'S OFFICE, HE SAID, I KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO, UM, HE HAD GIVEN ME THE NAME AND EMAIL OF THEIR, UM, COMMUNITY RELATIONS PERSON.
AND, UM, SO I EMAILED HIM, HEARD NOTHING.
UM, THIS, THIS CHIEF OF STAFF HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH HIM NOW, SUPPOSEDLY HE'S WAS SUPPOSED TO CONTACT ME.
IT, UM, I'VE BEEN AT THIS ABOUT THREE MONTHS NOW.
AND, UM, BECAUSE IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM.
BUT, UM, I HAD, I, NOTHING HAPPENED.
SO I WENT TO GRAPHICS PACKAGING, AND IT, IT'S, I, YOU CAN'T CONTACT ANYBODY THERE IF YOU, THERE'S A PHONE NUMBER, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY'S NAME.
AND THEN WHEN I PUT IN THIS, THIS, UM, PERSON'S NAME, NOTHING COMES UP.
SO YOU, YOU CAN'T CONTACT THEM, CAN'T EMAIL THEM.
AND I HAPPEN TO BE STANDING THERE WHEN THE, THE PLANT MANAGER CAME IN AND I SAID, OH, GOD, THE RIGHT PERSON, YOU KNOW? UM, AND HE, HE WAS VERY NICE.
AND HE SAID, UM, I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING, BUT THIS GENTLEMAN, HIS NAME IS, IS BRANDON TULLEY, IS THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS PERSON.
HE SAID, HE'LL CONTACT YOU, I'LL MAKE SURE HE CONTACTS YOU.
SO THAT'S BEEN OVER TWO WEEKS NOW.
I'VE BEEN IN, IN MY HOUSE 20 YEARS, AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN THAT.
BUT I JUST NOW STARTED HEARING THIS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING CHANGED.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE MONEY TO MOVE.
I LOVE BARBARA PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
SO I, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT I COME AS, MAYBE YOU FOLKS CAN DO SOMETHING.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHO DID YOU SPEAK TO HERE THAT SENT YOU HERE? BECAUSE YOU, THIS, THIS, IT'S ON YOU BECAUSE IT'S GREAT.
YOU'RE WELCOME HERE AT ANY TIME.
WHO DID YOU TALK TO THAT SAID COME TO A MEETING? UM, OKAY.
WELL, WE HAVE, WE, WE HAVE STAFF AND, AND, AND, AND ULTIMATELY WE WOULD HOPE THAT THE STAFF WOULD WORK ON THESE ISSUES AND THEN CONTACT US FOR YOU TO, TO TAKE THREE MONTHS.
YOU'RE SAYING IT'S BEEN FEW MONTHS AT LEAST.
YEAH, THAT IT, THAT'S WAY TOO LONG.
WE, WE CAN CONTACT, WE CAN GO BANG ON THEIR DOOR.
WE CAN SEND THESE, SOME OF THESE FINE POLICE OFFICERS,
UM, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THERE, UM, THAT'S LITERALLY A FEW DAYS.
WE HAVE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE, WE HAVE OUR ENGINEERS, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED TO WAIT THREE MONTHS TO COME TO US.
SO IS IS THERE A CONTACT THAT, WHO'S GONNA CALL HER ON TOMORROW? PLEASE? HAVE YOU FILED A SERVICE REQUEST? WE HAVE YOUR NUMBER WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH.
PROMISE YOU SPOKE WITH SERGEANT SOLARIO TODAY.
AND IF YOU DON'T GET A CALL, YOU SAID SUGGESTION.
IF YOU DON'T GET A CALL, EMAIL ME TOMORROW.
IS THAT FAIR? IT WOULD BE NOT, NOT, NOT THIS, NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S MUCH WE COULD DO.
WE'RE GONNA GET AN ANSWER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
I'VE HEARD THE FANS, I RIDE MY BIKE DOWN THERE AND I DO HEAR THE FANS.
MAYBE, MAYBE NEEDS, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO PUT SOME WILL ON SOMETHING, SOMETHING
OR MAYBE THEY NEED NEW FANS, MAYBE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE BUILDING A, I THINK THEY'RE BUILDING A NEW BUILDING ANYWAY, BUT THEY'RE, YEAH, THE, THE, THE, UM, MANAGER THERE SAID THAT THEY, THAT SOMETHING WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO THEY'RE PROBABLY LETTING THAT THING, THAT PLACE FALL APART.
BUT EITHER WAY, PLEASE, UH, I'M SURE YOU'LL GET A CALL TOMORROW.
MS. MAYER, WHAT WAS YOUR ADDRESS? DIDN'T YOU SEND ADDRESS IS 8 23.
DIDN'T YOU SEND US AN EMAIL A WHILE AGO? WHILE IT'S BEEN A WHILE? IT WAS A WHILE AGO.
I, YOU KNOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I, IT DIDN'T GO ON, THAT EMAIL DIDN'T GO UNNOTICED.
I, I, I DROVE FROM THE FACTORY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO YOUR HOUSE.
AND I SAID, MY GOD, THAT'S A MILE AWAY.
UM, AND, AND I THINK IT'S, UH, IF, IF YOU GO TO GRAPHIC PACKAGING, THERE'S A, AN OLD RAILROAD TRACK THERE.
GO DOWN THE, DOWN UNDERNEATH, UH, BELOW THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR IT.
YOU CAN HEAR THE SOUND OF THE YEAH.
OF THE PACKAGING PLANT, BUT NOT THE WINE OF THE, OF THE, UM, YEAH.
THE DAY, THE DAY THAT I HAPPENED TO GO BY.
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NOT SAYING THAT THAT, THAT IT WASN'T THERE, BUT THE DAY THAT I WENT BY, I COULDN'T HEAR IT.I HAVE HEARING AIDS IN, IT'S LIKE, SO WHEN I GO TO BED AT NIGHTTIME, THESE THINGS COME OUT AND I SLEEP LIKE A BABY.
IT'S LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S A NOT A BAD THING.
WE'LL, LOOK, I WISH I DIDN'T HEAR SO WELL.
THERE, YOU, THERE'S THE CONCLUSION.
ARE YOU UPHILL FROM GRAPHIC PACKAGING? UM, I THINK A LITTLE BIT.
I'M DOWN HOLLOW, REAL CLOSE TO EGYPT.
SO IT'S, IT, IT JUST CARRIES THE ACOUSTICS ARE INTERESTING.
AND, AND I THINK PROBABLY PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSER TO IT DON'T HEAR THE WINE.
AND, UM, AND, AND SUPPOSEDLY, UM, CUZ I'M, I'M A BIRD WATCHER AND THEY SAY, OH, CAN YOU HEAR THIS SOUND OF THIS BIRD? YES, NO PROBLEM.
THEY SAY, WELL, AS YOU GET OLDER, YOU, YOU CAN'T HEAR THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND OH, I'M ALMOST 70 AND I STILL HEAR IT.
SO I CAN STILL HEAR GRAPHIC PACKAGING
SO I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT OUT OF CODE.
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET YOU AN, OR AT LEAST SOMEBODY TALKED TO ME.
I JUST WANT TO JUST, JUST FOR A BACKDROP, UM, WE DID HAVE A MEETING, IF YOU RECALL, MR. STARLING WITH MELISSA SCHUMAN.
WE HAD A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION WITH THE, UM, OFFICIALS AND THE WAY WE HAD LEFT IT, UH, MRS. UH, THE REPRESENTATIVE SCHUSTERMAN DID TELL US SINCE WE HAVE PROBLEMS IN SCHUEL TOWNSHIP, THAT, UM, HER, THAT HER OFFICE WOULD, UH, HAD ASKED THAT WE FORWARDED COMPLAINTS, THOSE TO HER, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE WERE REQUESTED TO DO BY THE REPRESENTATIVE AT THE TIME.
NO, BUT I, BUT HERE IF I MAY, I, I JUST DON'T GET THAT.
I I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA DEBATE IT HERE, BUT IT'S OUR TOWN.
IT'S NOT THE REPRESENTATIVE'S TOWN, IT'S OUR TOWN.
I GOT VOTED TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PROBLEMS. SO I, I DON'T WANNA PUSH THAT OFF AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
SO I CONTACTED REPRESENTATIVE SCHUMAN AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF TYLER.
AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM FOR MONTHS MM-HMM.
AND HE TALKED TO THIS PERSON AT GRAPHIC PACKAGING.
AND I, I HAVE A, I JUST WROTE HIM A LETTER CUZ I CAN'T CONTACT ANYBODY THERE AND THEY WON'T CONTACT ME IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE, A COPY OF THE LETTER, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO YOU.
SO, UM, I, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE OR TYLER'S BEEN VERY NICE AT REPRESENTATIVE HOUSTONVILLE.
SO, UM, AND DONE WHAT HE CAN DO.
HE'S AND THE, THE MANAGER OF THE COMPANY SAID, I'LL MAKE SURE THIS FELLOW CALLS YOU.
SO, I DON'T KNOW, I REALLY DON'T WANNA MOVE OUT OF A TOWN.
AND IT'S THE FIRST, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST THAT I'VE HEARD OF PEOPLE IN OUR TOWNSHIP HEARING THIS NOISE.
I WENT DOWN THERE WHEN I WAS GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM SCHUEL, BUT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T TRY A MILE AWAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DROVE THE ROADS ALL AROUND THERE WHERE YOU CAN, AND I COULD NOT HEAR IT.
SO, BUT I SUSPECT BECAUSE IT, SO IF YOU SEE A, A, A MAROON, UH, HONDA PILOT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE TOMORROW,
SITTING THERE WITH D AND IT'S INTERESTING TOO, IT'S GOTTEN, YOU'VE BEEN IN 20 YEARS AND IS IT JUST THE LAST YEAR OR LIKE OKAY.
JUST IN THE LAST YEAR OR, AND, UM, I DON'T THINK, CUZ THEY'VE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN THAT.
I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN DOING SOME REMODELING AND SOME REWORK DOWN THERE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE QUIETER THOUGH.
THEY RECENTLY DID SOME MAJOR RENOVATIONS DOWN THERE, INSIDE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY DID SOME MAJOR RENOVATIONS AND MAYBE THAT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE INCREASED NOISE THAT YOU'RE POSSIBLY HEARING.
SO IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE WATER TORTURE,
AND I, AND I, I'M TRYING TO PLAY WHITE NOISE AT NIGHT, AND SO I CAN SLEEP AND IT COMES THROUGH THE WALLS.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST INCREDIBLY ANNOYING.
SO I, I I, I APPRECIATE YOUR LISTENING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO, BUT MAYBE I CAN AT LEAST GET AN ANSWER FROM, FROM THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE THERE.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT WANTS TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON ZOOM, NATE? NO, WE'RE GOOD.
NOBODY HAS A QUESTION ON ZOOM.
UH, THERE WAS, UH, AN EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT.
WE'VE HAD NO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, UH, TO REPORT ON, UH, APPROVAL OF THE BILL LIST.
I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE A LOOK AT THE BILL LIST.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FROM MAY 11TH TO JUNE 17TH, 2021 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,688,353 AND 6 CENTS.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST.
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THROUGH JUNE 17TH, 2021.I'M NOT GONNA READ THE NUMBER AGAIN.
WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES THAT WERE PUBLISHED IN OUR PACKET.
ONE FOR THE LAST REGULAR MEETING AND ONE FOR OUR WORKSHOP.
UM, ANYBODY SET ANY CORRECT QUESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THOSE? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND YOU CAN PUT 'EM BOTH IN THE SAME MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE.
UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE BOARD'S MAY 17TH, 2021, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
AND ALSO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD'S JUNE 7TH, 2021.
I HAVE A MOTION THE SECOND TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR REGULAR MEETING, MAY 17TH, 2021.
AND OUR WORKSHOP JUNE 7TH, 2021.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
WE HAVE, UH, NO PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
AND, UH, NOW WE'LL GET ON TO OLD BUSINESS.
AND, UH, NUMBER FOUR, CONSIDER ACCEPTING DEDICATIONS FOR OPEN SPACE RIGHT OF WAY AND EDGEHILL LANE AND EASEMENTS FOR SANITARY SEWER DRAINAGE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS FROM THE BENTLEY AT EDGEHILL ASSOCIATES LIMITED PARTNERS FOR THE EDGEHILL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
UM, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT PREDATES, UM, MOST OF US SITTING UP HERE.
UM, I THINK THEY STARTED IN 2006 OR 2007.
IT WAS FULLY BILLED OUT SOMETIME AROUND 2011 OR 12.
UM, DEVELOPERS JUST GOTTEN AROUND TO OFFERING FOR DEDICATION, CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WERE, UH, OBLIGATED TO BY THE PLAN SET.
UM, YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION LETTER FROM, UH, BILL DINGMAN DATED, UM, MAY 26TH, 2021, RECOMMENDING THE TOWNSHIP EXCEPT DEDICATION THAT OPEN SPACE AND VARIOUS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS IS ON THE CORNER OF HOLLOW AND, UH, ROAD RENER HOLLOW UP AND BLACKROCK ROAD.
DOES THAT INCREASE OUR PLOWING OR HAVE WE BEEN PLOWING IT ALL ALONG?
UM, IF THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEERS SIGNED OFF, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT DEDICATION OF SANITARY SEWERS RIGHT OF WAY OPEN SPACE, AND THE EMERGENCY ACCESS IN THE EDGEHILL DEVELOPMENT PER THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER'S LETTER DATED MAY 26TH, 2021.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, UH, ACCEPT DEDICATION OF SANITARY SEWERS.
RIGHT OF WAY, OPEN SPACE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS IN THE EDGE SHELL DEVELOPMENT PER THE TOWNSHIP'S LETTER LETTER, THEIR TOWNSHIP ENGINEER'S LETTER DATED MAY 26TH, 2021.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
UM, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 31, GRANTING FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR PHASE TWO C OF THE RIDGEWOOD DEVELOPMENT ON LINFIELD TRAP ROAD.
THIS IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH JUST ADMINISTRATIVE.
THEY SATISFIED ALL THE CONDITIONS FROM PRELIMINARY.
AND SO THIS IS MORE JUST AN I DOTTING T CROSSING THING, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY ALREADY DONE EVERYTHING THAT WAS REQUIRED OF THEM, AND THEY DID AGREE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $94,000, UH, ON A PER LOT BASIS TOWARD THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT SET, LINFIELD TRAP.
AND THEN, UM, AND PLUS 4,000 FOR PARK AND REC AND THAT.
AND, AND, UM, ARE THEY ALL PAID UP WITH THEIR UN UM, UM, SEWER? CUZ THE FIRST PHASE, THERE WAS SOME, UM, THERE WAS A LUMP SUM CATCH UP AT ONE POINT, RIGHT? YEP.
I THINK THEY ARE CAUGHT UP THOUGH, RIGHT? OH, DO YOU KNOW BRIAN? UM, THAT'S FOR, BUT I KNOW OUR INTERNAL PROCESSES WILL ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS BEFORE THE FIRST BUILDING PERMIT FOR PHASE TWO C IS ISSUED.
THAT'S FOR THE EDS, CORRECT? BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING US AN EDU FEE FOR EVERY HOME THAT WAS SETTLED.
SO BEFORE THIS STARTS, WE SHOULD BE PAID UP FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S SAYS THEY'LL BUY LUMP SUM, THEY'LL BUY ALL EDS IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY, IF THEY'LL BUY ALL THE EDS FOR THIS PHASE ONE LUMP SUM UP FRONT.
UM, CAN YOU JUST GIVE, MAKE SURE BY NEXT MEETING THAT WE KNOW, PLEASE? I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
CONSIDERED ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 31, GRANTING FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL OF PHASE TWO C OF RIDGEWOOD DEVELOPMENT ON LINFIELD TRAP
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ROAD.I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND, UH, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 31, GRANTING FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR PHASE TWO C OF THE RIDGEWOOD DEVELOPMENT ON LINFIELD TRAP ROAD.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 32, AMENDING THE 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET TO FUND THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE AND APPOINTED DESIGN TEAM FOR THE LIBRARY PROJECT.
AND, UH, I'LL LET LORI AND AND AL SPEAK TO THAT.
THEY'VE BEEN OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON THAT, UH, WORKING GROUP.
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST BEFORE AL SPEAKS, I, YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A VIDEO OF OUR INTERVIEWS YEAH.
AND, UM, I ALSO ASK FOR A, A BETTER DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S INVOLVED IN THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE.
I'M HOPING EVERYBODY GOT THAT.
SO FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, A COUPLE YEARS, WE'VE THE BASED OFF OF, UH, UH, SURVEYS THAT WE, UH, PLACED OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN A, A LIBRARY OR WHAT WE CALL LIBRARIAN, UM, IN THE, IN THE TOWNSHIP A AND WE, UM, PUT TOGETHER A, A COMMITTEE TO EXPLORE THIS, UM, A SUBCOMMITTEE IN ADDITION TO ALL THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS TO EXPLORE THIS.
AND OVER THE PAST, UH, COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UM, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED WHERE TO CONSIDER PLACING IT.
UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, UH, HOW TO DESIGN THE BUILDING, WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN IT.
BECAUSE BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT A LIBRARY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE THAN JUST A LIBRARY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A TECHNOLO, A TECHNOLOGY CENTER.
IT'S, UH, MORE LIKE A STEAM OR A STEM CENTER, UH, THAT WOULD, UM, UH, PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TECHNOLOGY IN THIS FACILITY.
SO, UH, ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T COMMITTED TO DOING THIS, WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT, UH, NEXT STEP.
AND THE NEXT STEP IS TO HAVE A, AN ARCHITECT, UH, PROVIDE US WITH A SCHEMATIC.
UH, LET ME GET THIS SCHEMATIC DESIGN OF WHAT A BUILDING LIKE THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND, UH, BASED OFF OF THAT INFORMATION WE WOULD SEE ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF FUNDRAISING WE CAN DO, UH, FROM THE, WITH THE PUBLIC WITH A PROFESSIONAL FIRM THAT WE'VE ALREADY ENGAGED.
THE FULL BOARD ALREADY VOTED TO ENGAGE AT A, A FUNDRAISING FIRM BASED OUT OF PHILADELPHIA, CORRECT? YES.
AND WHAT, WHAT'S THEIR NAME? I'M SORRY.
SCHULTZ AND WILLIAMS. SCHULTZ AND WILLIAMS. SO WE CAN'T, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO, UH, GO TO OUR, UH, PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUSINESSES, UH, RESIDENTS AND, UH, BENEFACTOR AND OTHER, UH, FOLKS THAT WOULD, UH, BE BENEFACTORS FOR THE FACILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FACILITY.
WE CAN'T SIMPLY PUT A DESIGN FOR THIS FACILITY ON, WITH USING CRAYONS ON A PIECE OF PAPER.
SO WHAT WE'RE APPROVING HERE TONIGHT IS, UH, AUTHORIZING, UH, A RESOLUTION TO, UH, MOVE TO, UH, BASICALLY THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH IS SCHEMATIC DESIGN OF A FACILITY THAT WE STILL, WE WILL WORK WITH AN ARCHITECT OVER THE PERIOD OF THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.
AND THEY WILL COME UP WITH WHAT THIS FACILITY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET SOMETHING, UH, ON PAPER, UM, SO THAT WE CAN ENVISION AND HELP OTHERS ENVISION WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO DO.
MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS NOT A BASIC LIBRARY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
JUST TO ADD INTO WHAT AL WAS SAYING IS THAT THE COLLOQUIAL TERM EVERYBODY'S USED TO USING IS LIBRARY.
UM, IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIND A WORD THAT ENCOMPASSES WHAT MODERN LIBRARIES CAN DO.
THEY REINVENT THEMSELVES ALL THE TIME.
THEY CONTINUE TO BE COMMUNITY CENTERS.
UM, AND, AND IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMENITY TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, MY HUSBAND SUGGESTED THE TERM COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER.
UM, WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH WHAT WE WOULD CALL IT, ASSUMING WE GO FARTHER BEYOND SCHEMATIC DRAWING AND FINDING OUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN RAISE FROM THE PUBLIC.
I TRULY WANNA HAVE A DEEP, SOLID GROUND SWELL OF SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS AMENITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING TONIGHT, AS AL SAID, APPROVING THE SCHEMATIC DRAWING SO THAT THE FUNDRAISING COMPANY CAN THEN TAKE SOMETHING SOLID TO PEOPLE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AS, AS AL SAID, YOU CAN'T DO A LITTLE SKETCH ON A NAPKIN AND HAVE PEOPLE BUY INTO IT.
SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.
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YOU, UH, MS. HAGGINS.UH, SHE, SHE DID A GREAT JOB SUMMARIZING IT.
UM, I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR SIX YEARS, AND WE, UM, AS, UH, FIVE MEMBER BOARD, I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING THAT IN THE SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY METHODICALLY DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT.
WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE, UH, WORKSHOP MEETINGS.
WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY GROUPS IN HERE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A FACILITY LIKE THIS.
AND, UH, WHEN WE MET WITH, UH, THE FINAL ARCHITECT THAT WE CHOSE TO GIVE US THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, THERE ARE A WORLD RENOWNED ARCHITECT THAT, UM, IS EXTREMELY EXCITED TO WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR US, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO BUILD, UH, THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO FACILITIES LIKE THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT A CONVENTIONAL LIBRARY, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO EXPLORE THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS.
AND JUST, IF I COULD ADD ONE THING, THERE WAS A DEBATE ON WHICH SITE TO PUT IT CORRECT.
AND I THINK THERE WAS UNANIM UNANIMOUS DECISION TO PUT IT ACROSS THE STREET.
AND, AND, UH, WE DID EXPLORE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
ONE WAS, UH, A, A LOCATION ON THIS SIDE OF THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO 4 22.
BUT ULTIMATELY, I BELIEVE WE'RE DECIDING TO PLACE IT NEXT TO WHERE WE'RE BUILDING OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES BUILDING.
BECAUSE WHEN WE, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, IT'S MORE BUCOLIC, UH, THE, THE FIREHOUSE OR EMERGENCY SERVICES BUILDING, WHEN WE ENGINEERED THAT, WE PLACED EXTRA FACILITIES OVER THERE.
CUZ THERE'S 27 ACRES AT THAT SITE.
UH, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THIS FAC A FACILITY LIKE THIS OR ANY OTHER FACILITY.
SO THE UTILITIES ARE OVER THERE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S ALREADY OVER THERE.
SO, UH, THAT WE, WE WILL HAVE COST SAVINGS PLACE IN IT OVER THERE BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS.
SO THAT'S WHAT ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOSE THAT.
ANY MORE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 32, AMENDING THE 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET TO FUND THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE AND APPOINT THE DESIGN TEAM FOR THE LIBRARY PROJECT.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION.
2021 DASH 32 AMENDING THE 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET TO FUND THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE AND APPOINTED DESIGN TEAM FOR THE LIBRARY PROJECT.
I WILL CALL THE ROLL SUPERVISOR.
AND I WILL VOTE YES, THE RESIDENT.
I I WOULD, I WOULD, EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.
UM, I, I, I JUST WANT PEOPLE, PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I'M VOTING NO ON THIS.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A STUDY THAT'S BEING DONE RIGHT NOW, A PFM.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA TELL US WHAT WE CAN AFFORD.
WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN AFFORD THIS OR NOT.
UM, UH, I'M NOT GOING DOWN THIS ROAD.
I'M NOT SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY ON, ON THIS.
UM, THIS, THIS IS A, A MAJOR PROJECT.
UM, IF I FIND OUT THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THIS MUNICIPALITY ARE BEHIND THIS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, UH, SUPPORT IT.
BUT UNTIL THAT TIME, I WILL VOTE NO ON THIS.
UM, UM, I DON'T WANNA PUT THIS ON THE BACK.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HIRE THIS FIRM TO, FOR US TO GET MONEY FOR THEM TO SOLICIT MONEY, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THEY, THEY WILL NOT GET ALL THE MONEY THAT'S NEEDED TO FUND THIS THING.
AND THE REST OF IT WILL BE ON THE BACKS OF THE RESIDENCE.
UH, WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT A 15 MILLION BUILDING.
BY THE TIME IT'S ALL DONE, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT CLOSER TO 20 MILLION.
UM, AND I, I, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT I HAVE THE RESIDENT'S PERMISSION TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND I DO WANNA SAY, AND I, I CONCUR ON THOSE THOUGHTS WITH COST.
UH, AND I WISH THE ORDER WAS DIFFERENT.
SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PFM STUDY, WHICH WILL BE FALL, AND THAT'LL TELL US A LITTLE BIT, LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT HOW, HOW WELL WE ARE AS A TOWNSHIP AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN POSSIBLY AFFORD FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER STUDY THAT'S GONNA TELL US HOW MUCH OUR BUSINESSES CAN POSSIBLY PUT INTO THIS PROJECT.
SO I'M, I, I FEEL LIKE THE ORDER FOR ME AT LEAST IS, IS NOT, IT'S A LINEAR FASHION.
AND THIS VOTE'S COMING BEFORE WE HAVE ALL THOSE BLOCKS IN PLACE.
AND I DO FEEL A LITTLE TENTATIVE ABOUT SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY WITHOUT KNOWING FOR SURE THAT THIS IS WHAT RESIDENTS WANT.
NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT A SURVEY.
THERE WAS A SURVEY, THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE LIBRARY.
UM, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY GET A LIBRARY, THEY WON, ALSO GET THE COST OF A LIBRARY.
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THAT? AND IF YOU'RE ALL ON BOARD, LET'S FULL STEAM AHEAD.BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ALL THE PIECES AGREED.
AND, AND, AND, AND WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST US TO MAINTAIN THIS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST US TO OPERATE THIS.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PARTICULAR, I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS PARTICULAR STUDY IS GOING TO DO FOR US.
GIVE US AN IDEA AS TO HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST US TO OPERATE IT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT LOWER PROVIDENCE, IT COSTS THEM OVER HALF A, A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
UM, I NEED TO KNOW THAT, UH, THAT OUR, UH, WE CAN HANDLE THE, THAT IN OUR BUDGET EVERY YEAR.
IT'S, UH, I, I, I NEED SOME INFORMATION BEFORE I GO AHEAD.
AND I, I THINK IT'S A, A WORTHWHILE CAUSE.
BUT NOT UNTIL I KNOW THAT, UH, I I NEED TO HAVE THESE FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME.
SO, LIKE, LOOK,
WHAT WAS THAT, AL? I SAID, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN AGAINST THIS FOR A WHILE, BUT THE REST OF THE BOARD HAS BEEN ON BOARD AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AD NAUSEUM, AND IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR END.
SO SOME WE'RE GONNA THROW A NO VOTE AND NOT NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S MS. MS. KELSEY'S, UH, PREROGATIVE.
PLEASE DON'T SPEAK FOR ME NOW.
WELL, I WORK VERY WELL WITH THIS.
I, I GOTTA SAY, I'M JUST, I'M JUST VERY, YOU'RE NOT SHOCKED.
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED INTO THAT.
WELL, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET YOUR APPROVAL AND STOP BEING SHOCKED.
YOU CAN'T BE POSSIBLY BE THAT SHOCKED.
BOTTOM LINE IS PFM CAME TO US AND FROM THAT POINT ON, AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS, EVEN WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A LIBRARY, I'M TENTATIVE ABOUT THE COST.
LET'S FIND OUT ABOUT THE COST.
PFMS STUDY DIDN'T HELP ME SETTLE THAT FEELING.
AND I HAVE TO GO BY MY GUT, RIGHT? I'M NOT HERE TO PLEASE YOU OR ANYONE.
I HAVE TO GO BY HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
IT FEELS UNSURE THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I HAVE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR ME.
WHY NOT? COME ON UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND MAKE COMMENT.
UM, THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR NUMBERS OF NUMBERS OF MONTHS.
UH, THE BOARD HAVE MET NUMBERS OF TIMES, MULTIPLE WORKSHOPS.
UM, THE CONCEPT, UH, WAS A, INITIALLY, I THINK, UM, VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE BOARD, THE CONCEPT OF A LIBRARY, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, STEM CENTER.
I DON'T CARE HOW YOU PORTRAY IT.
UM, YOU'VE MET MANY, MANY TIMES.
THIS SEEMS LIKE A CHICKEN AND AN EGG SITUATION HERE, WHICH I FIND REALLY DISTURBING IN THE SENSE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO APPROVE ANY KIND OF MONEY TO BUILD A FACILITY.
YOU GOTTA TO PURSUE THE OBJECTIVE, THE, THE, THE VISION OF WHAT THIS POTENTIALLY COULD BE MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
AND THIS IS JUST A BEGINNING OF THAT PROCESS.
WE'RE NOT AGREEING TO BUILD ANYTHING WHERE IT'S GONNA BE.
YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE AGREED ON WHERE YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE OR HOW BIG OR SMALL OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND THIS TO ME IS JUST THAT BEGINNING PROCESS TO SAY, WE GOTTA LOOK AT WHAT IT MIGHT BE BEFORE YOU THEN CAN GO TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, DO WE REALLY WANT IT? WE CAN GO TO BENEFACTORS, CONTRIBUTORS, RESIDENTS AND SAY, THIS IS THE DEAL.
ARE YOU WILLING TO FUND IT? AND AT THAT POINT, WE CAN SAY NO, BUT YOU GOTTA START SOMEWHERE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE VISION THAT I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
SO JOE, IF I MAY, MAY RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE.
HOW MUCH IS IT? TWO 12 FOR THIS STEP? 200 HUNDRED AND 12,000.
OKAY, SO, SO LEMME JUST SAY YOU ONE THING.
OKAY? WE'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING $200,000, OKAY? THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING.
ONCE YOU START GOING DOWN THIS PROCESS, OKAY, THE NEXT STEP IS ANOTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THE NEXT STEP IS SOME MORE MONEY.
SO I, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I HAVE A STUDY THAT'S DUE IN, IN THE FALL.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO BUILD THIS THING TOMORROW.
AND, AND MAYBE IT'S BETTER OFF IF WE HOLD OFF ANOTHER SIX MONTHS BECAUSE, UH, THE, THE BUILDING MATERIALS WILL BE COMING DOWN.
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IT RIGHT NOW COSTS COST AN EXTRA 30% TO BUILD A HOME THESE DAYS BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND EVERYTHING.YOU'RE ONLY TALKING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONCEPT.
IF YOU GUYS DON'T WANT TO BUILD THIS THING, ALL OF YOU AGREE YOU DON'T WANT IT, PERIOD.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, HOW'S NOT HOW I'M TELLING YOU THIS IS IF YOU WANT THIS KIND, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE THE VISION FOR THIS COMMUNITY THAT YOU WANT THIS KIND OF A TECHNOLOGY CENTER, LIBRARY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, THEN YOU GOTTA START SOMEWHERE.
$200,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT EITHER YOU, YOU GOTTA START AND EITHER, EITHER YOU START OR YOU CANCEL THE WHOLE THING AND SAY, WE'RE DONE WITH IT.
ALL OF YOU AGREE WE DON'T WANT IT.
WE'RE NOT AGAINST THIS, WE'RE NOT AGAINST THIS.
WELL THEN YOU GOTTA START, MY PERSPECTIVE IS YOU HAVE TO, EXCUSE ME, BUT JUST DISAPPOINTED PROCEDURE, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BUT REALLY YOU CALL FOR ALL YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE FRONT.
YOU'VE CHOSEN ONE PERSON AND NOW IT'S TURNING INTO A DEBATE WITH THAT ONE PERSON.
SO I THINK ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SHOULD REALLY BE LIMITED TO, UH, YOU AMONG THE BOARD.
SINCE I DID ALLOW ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? THAT'LL BE FAIR.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, IN DEFENSE OF, OF ALL MY, EVERYONE HERE IS, IS WORKING AT FAITH.
BUT IT IS, WE ARE COMING DOWN TO THE PRICE TAG.
AND THE PRICE TAG IS SIGNIFICANT.
AND, UH, I THINK WE WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL IN OUR NEXT STEPS.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO START TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE NEED AT LEAST FINISH THE START CUZ THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FINISHING THE START, IN MY OPINION.
YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER THOUGHT AND WAS JUST THIS INITIAL STEP WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THEN IT'S COMES IN A MORE THAN DOUBLE.
THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT MADE ME MAYBE CHECKING OUT A LITTLE BIT ON THIS NEXT THING.
I'M LIKE, WELL WAIT, SO NOW WE'RE ALMOST AT A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
LIKE WHERE DOES THIS, WHERE DOES THIS START, START? WELL, BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL HAVE, IN OUR FINANCIAL STUDY, WE WILL HAVE IN THE SCHULTZ AND WILLIAMS STUDY ON WHAT WE, WHAT, WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS ABOUT THIS FUNDRAISING WISE.
THERE IS, AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE A DRAWING OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT I HOPE WILL BE OUR FUTURE LIBRARY.
AND THEN WE WILL THEN, THEN WE WILL REALLY HAVE TO START TAKING SOME, SOME HARD VOTES.
AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL BE 4 1 5 0 IN THOSE VOTES.
BUT ANYWAY, THE MOTION DID PASS THREE TO ONE.
AND, UH, I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT.
3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, EXCUSE ME.
FORGOT HOW MANY WERE US THERE? WERE ALL RIGHT.
UM, NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDER A AUTHORIZING, OH, WAIT, EXCUSE ME.
ITEM SEVEN, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AN ADDENDUM TO THE AGREEMENT WITH INTEGRATED FITNESS PARTNERS.
AND, UH, I F P THEY'RE THE ONES WHO RUN OUR FITNESS COMPONENT AT THE, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER OUT AT ANDERSON PARK.
AND IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UM, SUE KUBE UP ANY INFORMATION I HAVE.
BUT, UH, IF YOU RECALL, WE, UH, IN ENTERED IN AN AGREEMENT WITH I F P ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
AND THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO SEE HOW IT WOULD WORK.
UH, AS FAR AS US, UH, PRIVATELY MANAGING, UH, THE OPERATION, UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN A, A RESOUNDING SUCCESS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SAVE AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN, UM, UH, AT LEAST THE MONIES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DOCUMENT IN TERMS OF SAVINGS.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THAT, THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT A ONE AND A HALF, UH, PERSON EMPLOYEES, UH, PER, PER MONTH, WHICH WE COULDN'T POSSIBLY MANAGE OUR STAFF, UM, BY OURSELVES IF WE WERE TO DO THIS, UM, BY OURSELVES.
UM, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PARK AND RECREATION DIRECTOR TO FOCUS ON OTHER NON FITNESS RELATED PROGRAMS. SO, AND I THINK, UH, WE'VE HAD A, WE'VE SEEN A GOOD TRACK RECORD OF IMPROVING, UH, MEMBERSHIPS AND, AND, UM, AND WITH THE REBRANDING, I THINK, UM, WE'VE DONE THEIR, UM, THEY, THEY'VE, UM, CERTAINLY PR PROVED THEIR WORTH AS FAR AS A PARTNERSHIP TO CONTINUE THIS FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
THE ADDENDUM THAT YOU HAVE IS, UH, IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH A CON, A CONTINUATION OF THE, UH, AGREEMENT, BUT IT'S BASED ON, UM, OPERATING HOURS, UM, AND WITH A NO MORE THAN 270 HOURS PER MONTH.
AND THEY ARE ALSO INCLUDING IN THAT, UH, 12 ADDITIONAL PROGRAM HOURS FOR ANY FITNESS RELATED PROGRAMS AT THE, UH, AT THE CENTER.
DID I COVER EVERYTHING, SUE? MM-HMM.
UM, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING A FAVORABLE REVIEW OF THIS.
UM, THE CONTRACT, UH, I THINK OFFICIALLY EXPIRES AT, UH, IS, IS IT THE END OF JULY, END OF THIS MONTH.
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SO WE'D LIKE TO, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CONTRACT BE RENEWED.ARE, UH, MEMBERSHIP'S CONTINUING TO CLIMB AT THE, UH, FOR THE FITNESS CENTER? I, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS.
THE, THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAD WITH THEM WAS FOR ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS.
AND WHAT ARE WE GIVING THEM THIS TIME? THIS IS ANOTHER TWO YEAR AGREEMENT.
THE ONLY CHANGE ON HERE IS JUST TO, UM, SPECIFY INSTEAD OF OPERATIONAL HOURS, WHICH TEND TO CHANGE.
THIS IS JUST TOTAL HOURS WORK.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO JUST USE THEM IN THE REALM OF THE CENTER ITSELF.
IF WE HAVE RENTALS OR IF WE HAVE EVENTS OR ANYTHING THAT WE MIGHT NEED HELP WITH STAFFING, WE CAN ALSO USE THEM FOR THOSE.
THIS JUST HELPS US, OUR DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE, A LOT MORE THAN IT CURRENTLY DOES.
I'M, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THEM, RIGHT? VERY HAPPY.
MEMBERSHIPS ARE CONTINUING TO GO UP.
THEY'RE CONTINUING TO GROW AND WE'RE HITTING DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE WEREN'T HITTING BEFORE.
SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY OVER THERE.
HOW MANY MEMBERSHIPS IN THE DIRECTION CURRENTLY HAVE? WE HAVE OVER, I BELIEVE IT'S OVER 600 RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT WAS, WE ACTUALLY MIGHT BE CRAWLING INTO THE 700 RANGE, BUT THAT IS A GIVEN COVID AND EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE VERY, UM, ODD NUMBERS TO GO THROUGH FROM THE LAST FOUR YEARS, SO IT'S VERY HARD TO SAY IT'S GONE UP IN THIS AREA AND DOWN IN THIS AREA, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY IMPROVED AND WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF NEW POPULATION COMING IN AND UTILIZING IT.
HOW, HOW MUCH IS THE MEMBERSHIP A MONTH? IT IS $20 FOR RESIDENCE AND $30 FOR NON, AND THEN IT'S FREE IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU JUST WANT TO USE THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THE ROCK CLIMBING WALL IN THE PODCAST ROOM.
I THINK PART OF THE REBRANDING AT THIS BECAME FROM A REC CENTER TO A COMMUNITY CENTER, SO IT'S PUBLIC ACCESS.
SO HAVING THAT FREE MEMBERSHIP, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE TAKEN PART OF THAT.
OH, SO WHAT DEMOGRAPHICS ARE YOU HITTING NOW THAT YOU DIDN'T BEFORE AND HOW DID YOU GET THEM? WELL, WE'RE ACTUALLY HITTING A LOT OF THE TEENAGE DEMOGRAPHIC, WHICH WE WEREN'T GETTING A LOT OF IN BEFORE.
WE HAVE A YOUNG FITNESS STAFF, WHICH HELPS, I BELIEVE, IN JUST THE MARKETING ITSELF.
WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG, FRESH FREEZES.
THEY KNEW THE NEW POPULAR WORKOUT ROUTINES.
AND IT'S ALSO JUST NICE TO HAVE A FRIENDLY FACE WHEN YOU WALK IN.
WE HAVE NEW PROGRAMS FOR THAT POPULATION, AND THE FITNESS STAFF ARE ACTUALLY MORE OF A RECREATIONAL PARTNER, SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY RUNNING SOME OF OUR RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS WITH US.
SO WE'RE CREATING THEM TOGETHER, AND THEN THEY'RE HELPING TO RUN THEM, AND SOME OF THEM ARE ATHLETES IN THE LOCAL, IN OUR TOWNSHIP, GO TO OUR HIGH SCHOOL.
IT, IT'S VERY NICE TO SEE THE SAME FACES RUNNING THE SAME PROGRAMS. GOOD.
UM, APPEARS NO MORE QUESTION OR DISCUSSION.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM SEVEN.
I'LL MOVE TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF, TO AUTHORIZE THE ADDENDUM TO THE TOWNSHIP AGREEMENT WITH INTEGRATED FITNESS PARTNERS FOR THE OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF ALL FITNESS RELATED PROGRAMS. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AUTHORIZE AN ADDENDUM TO THE TOWNSHIP AGREEMENT WITH INTEGRATED FITNESS PARTNERS FOR THE OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF ALL FITNESS RELATED PROGRAMS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A COMMONWEALTH FINANCING, UH, AUTHORITY MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION FUND GRANT.
SO THE TOWNSHIP HAS AN EXCELLENT, UM, TRACK RECORD OF PURSUING AVAILABLE GRANTS FOR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND STRETCHING ITS DOLLARS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY TEAM HAD DONE WAS LOOK AT THE AVAILABLE GRANTS, UM, AND, AND LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE PRIORITY LIST FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
UM, UH, THIS KIND OF COMBINES EIGHT AND NINE, AND WE RECENTLY MET WITH STAFF HERE, UM, TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS AND PUT THE MEMO TOGETHER.
JUST TO EXPLAIN IT IN BRIEF DETAIL.
UM, THE INTERSECTION OF DRE BUSS, UM, ROUTE ONE 13 AND SECOND AVENUE, UH, WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR, FROM THE ACT 2 0 9 TO PUT A ROUNDABOUT.
UM, WE HAD CONTACTED PENDOT, UH, SOME TIME AGO WHEN THERE WERE SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE INTERSECTION THAT WE, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE BRIDGE NEAR THE INTERSECTIONS AND IN POOR CONDITION, ALTHOUGH PENDOT SAYS IT'S SAFE AND, AND, UH, THEY HAVE NO, UH, FUNDING TO FIX THAT.
UH, THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME LAND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED IN THIS AREA, BUT ALSO THERE'S LAND DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES THROUGH THIS AREA.
UM, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWNSHIP, UM, TO PURSUE THIS GRANT, THIS CFA GRANT.
I'LL SHORTEN IT TO THAT, UH, CFA GRANT.
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GRANT THAT WE PURSUED FOR LEWIS AND VAUGHN IN THE PAST.UM, IT REQUIRES NO TOWNSHIP DOLLARS TO MATCH IT, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
UH, WE'D ONLY BE, UH, SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION FOR THE, UH, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AT THIS PHASE TO LOOK, LOOK AT THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE, THE ROUNDABOUT, SEE WHAT PROPERTIES IT WOULD IMPACT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS SO THAT WE COULD MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD PER THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
UM, IN THE CAP IN THE, UM, PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT WE DID FOR THE TOWNSHIP BACK IN 2019, WE THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD DO THIS, A COUPLE START LOOKING AT GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES A FEW YEARS IN ADVANCE OF ACTUALLY THE, THIS PROJECT BEING ABLE TO COME TO FRUITION.
SO THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS.
UM, AS YOU MAY KNOW, I THINK AS YOU DO KNOW, UH, THROUGH SOME OF THE, AGAIN, UH, CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS AND, AND TOWNSHIP STAFF AND, AND THE BOARD ITSELF, UH, WE HAVE A PLAN IN DEPEND DOT RIGHT NOW FOR LOW COST SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT INVOLVE SOME SIGNING STRIPING, UM, MORE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE AROUND THAT INTERSECTION TO TRY TO GIVE IT SOME SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.
BUT THAT IS NOT GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE, THE TRAFFIC FLOW PROBLEMS. AS TRAFFIC BUILDS UP.
UH, PENDOT, WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO APPROVE THAT PLAN AND THEY ARE GOING TO INSTALL ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AS WE UNDERSTAND IT AT NO COST OF THE TOWNSHIP.
WE JUST GAVE THEM A PLAN THAT THEY WANTED THE FOOTPRINT.
AND SO NOW WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, NOW LET'S TAKE THE NEXT STEP.
AND I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS TO WHETHER YOU WANTED TO PURSUE THIS BEFORE WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER THE GRANT APPLICATION IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UM, AGAIN, THE, THE COST OF, UH, THE GRANT APPLICATION IS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWNSHIP WOULD BEAR THROUGH ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AN ENGINEERING COST.
BUT THE COST TO PUT THE, YOU KNOW, DO THE DESIGN AND ALL THAT STUFF WOULD BE BORN BY THE GRANT ITSELF.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, I THINK I MENTIONED IN A PRIOR MEETING, WHENEVER YOU'RE DEALING WITH CFA, UM, THE, UH, THE COMMONWEALTH FINANCING AUTHORITY, UH, AND D C E D, THAT IS A VERY MUCH MORE POLITICAL BODY.
SO US KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH, UH, OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE AND, UH, SENATORS HERE TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS INTERSECTION.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE ALERTED THEM.
I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN WITH BILL ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST AS, AS WELL AS TIM, TIM TEPERMAN, AND, UM, IF WE SUBMIT THIS GRANT APPLICATION, WE'LL JUST MEET, NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ON ALERT BECAUSE OF THE COMPETITIVENESS OF THIS.
BUT THIS IS IDENTIFIED BY THE COUNTY, THIS IS IDENTIFIED BY V R P C.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THE ROUNDABOUT AT THIS LOCATION, AND THEREFORE, IF YOU DO GET IT IN THERE, IT'LL HELP FIGURE OUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN AROUND IT, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS AT ALL.
AND BY US GETTING THE ENGINEERING DOWN ON PAPER THAT THAT CAN HELP BOTH.
YOU'RE SETTING BLUEPRINT FOR NOT ONLY THIS BOARD, BUT FOR BOARDS TO COME THAT THAT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN.
DOES IT HELP TO GET THE GRANT THAT IT IMPACTS CHESTER COUNTY AS WELL? IT'S RIGHT.
THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE COMING.
I THINK, I THINK COULD, I THINK WE CAN GET A LETTER FROM THE CHESTER COUNTY, UH, THE BORDERING CHESTER, CHESTER COUNTY COMMUNITIES.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT WE WOULD GET A LETTER FROM AS WELL AS FROM THE CHESTER COUNTY TMA, UH, BECAUSE IT IS A BORDER LOCATION.
AND THEN CAN I, HOW MUCH IS IT TO DO THE GRANT? AND THEN, UM, OVERALL HOW MUCH IS THE WHOLE PROJECT? NO, NO, NO.
SO WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER A MORE OF A DETAILED PROPOSAL ABOUT THIS, BUT TO PROBABLY PUT TOGETHER THE GRANT, WHICH INCLUDES ALL THE PAPERWORK, ALL THE COORDINATION WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO GET OUT, UH, TO DO A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING.
AND WHEN I SAY CONCEPTUAL, IT'S PRETTY CONCEPTUAL.
IT'S LIKE TAKING WHAT YOU SEE IN THE AERIAL AND ESSENTIALLY PLOPPING ON THAT AERIAL, WHAT THE DESIGN IS.
IT'S NOT A FULL BLOWN CONCEPT.
IT'S PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT $8,000 OR SO TO DO ALL THE ENGINEERING LEGWORK AND THE COORDINATION TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE CALL, SAY, YOU KNOW, WRITE THE LETTERS, UM, DO THE COST ESTIMATES, ALL THAT STUFF TO GET TO THAT.
HOW MUCH MONEY DID YOU SAY IT'S AROUND $8,000.
AND THEN THE OVERALL PROJECTS, PUTTING THE CIRCLE IN, IT WAS A COUPLE MILLION, WASN'T IT, TO OH YEAH.
I THINK IT WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 3 MILLION, 3.2 MILLION.
WE WON'T SPEND PENDOT TO SPEND SOME OF THAT MONEY.
AND, AND WE WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, WHEN WE ENGINEER THIS, WE WOULD DRAW THAT BACK TO INCLUDE REPLACEMENT OF THAT BRIDGE.
THAT'S GONNA BE THE IMPORTANT PART.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE INTERSECTION AND THE WAY WE HAVE TO, WOULD HAVE TO DEFLECT THAT INTO A ROUNDABOUT.
AND THEN, SO IT WOULD BE THE CIRCLE AND THEN THE BRIDGE?
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YEAH.SO, SO CASEY, UM, IT'S $8,000 FOR THE ENGINEERING? NO.
SO IT'S $8,000 TO DO THE PREPARATION OF ALL THE GRANT MATERIALS AND WRITE ALL THE MATERIALS UP AND DO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO SUBMIT FOR THE APPLICATION.
AND THE GRANT IS WORTH HOW MUCH THE GRANT? WELL, IT'S GONNA BE THE ENGINEERING, I'M GONNA SAY THE GRANT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE FOR SOMEWHERE AROUND $350,000 OR SO.
AND DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD COVER THE COST OF THE ENGINEERING FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT THEN? SO THAT'LL BE FOR THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEN WHEN THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING GOES, GETS DONE, AND YOU KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE TO OBTAIN RIGHT AWAY FROM, YOU HAVE TO GET ALL THE DETAILS OF PENDOT TO THEN REVIEW, LIKE, DOES THE ROAD NEED TO BE RAISED? IS THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANYTHING WITH THE ADJACENT WATERWAY AND THE BRIDGE NEED TO BE ALTERED? YOU KNOW, YOU FIND THAT OUT THROUGH THOSE PHASES, THE UTILITY COMPANIES THEN, THEN IT'LL GO TO FINAL ENGINEERING, UH, FACT THAT THEN WE GOT A GRANT, UH, IN THE FIRST PHASE HELPS US OUT THEN WITH THE ENGINEERING FOR THE NEXT PHASES.
AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT? ON ONE, UH, GETTING THE GRANT IN AND HEARING? SO THE GRANT APPLICATION HAS TO BE SUBMITTED FOR THIS ROUND BY JULY 31ST.
SO WE'RE DEALING WITH ABOUT FIVE WEEKS AT TIME.
WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE CAN GET THAT ALL DONE.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO SAY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU WARM TO THIS IDEA OR NOT? MM-HMM.
IT SHOULD BE THEN, UM, SOMETIME IN THE FALL, WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE AWARD OF THE GRANT.
LIKE NOVEMBER, IF THEY'RE ON THEIR TIMEFRAME.
UH, THAT WAS MESSED UP WITH COVID.
THEY WERE ABOUT THREE TO SIX MONTHS BEHIND ON GRANT, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE TIMEFRAME.
AND SO JULY 31ST, I GUESS, WOULD WE GET NOTIFICATION WHEN YOU PUT IT IN SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES? YES.
YEAH, AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND WE WE'RE GONNA ASK THEM FOR LETTERS OF SUPPORT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, TIM COPIES THE BOARD ON THOSE LETTERS SO YOU KNOW, ALL THAT INFORMATION IS OUT ON THE STREET.
AND THEN YOU CAN POINT TO THOSE LETTERS.
AND I WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD WRITE ITS OWN LETTER TO BOTH THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE SENATOR SAYING, HEY, LISTEN, WE'VE MADE THIS SUBMISSION.
TOWNSHIP HAS NOW AS, AS THE BOARD MEMBERS, WE'D LIKE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS.
UM, BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION ON THIS, I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER NINE REAL QUICK AND KIND OF COMBINE IT.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME WE TALKED TO THE TOWNSHIP ABOUT, UM, THE ARCOLA ROAD CROSSING, UM, OF, OF, AT 29, A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT THAT LOCATION TO CONNECT THE TRAIL.
THIS CAME UP, UM, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT WAS ONE OF THE LOCATIONS WE FOCUSED ON.
UM, THERE IS A GRANT CALLED THE, UM, ARLEY GRANT, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ACRONYM FOR IT, THE AUTOMATED RED LIGHT ENFORCEMENT GRANT PROGRAM.
THAT GRANT PROGRAM REALLY HAS NO MAXIMUMS OR MINIMUMS FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU GET.
UM, THERE, IT'S ADMINISTERED BY PENDOT.
THERE'S NO MATCHING FUNDS REQUIRED.
HOWEVER, MOST PROJECTS THAT I SEE SUCCESSFULLY AWARDED IN THAT GRANT PROGRAM, UM, DO HAVE A MATCH BY THE TOWNSHIP.
IT'S N THERE'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN IDENTIFIED MATCH, BUT THE TOWNSHIP MAY SAY, HEY, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PAY FOR THE ENGINEERING PART OF THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT PAY, OR WE'LL THROW IN $30,000 TO THIS PROJECT.
IT USUALLY, IT'S PENNDOT'S ATTENTION.
THIS IS A LONG WAY FOR ME TO TELL YOU THIS GRANT IS DUE BY JULY 1ST.
THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT THIS ROUND.
HOWEVER, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS PROJECT THROUGH THE, UM, THROUGH THAT MECHANISM OF THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, THROUGH THE DISCUSSION WITH, WITH THE TOWNSHIP AND THE RESIDENTS FEEDBACK THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
AND PENDOT HAS EMBRACED THE IDEA OF GETTING THAT CROSSING IN.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA LOOK OUT FOR OTHER GRANT PROGRAMS, UM, AS THEY COME UP, WHICH MIGHT NOT BE ARLEY, UM, UM, AND IT COULD BE ARLEY THE NEXT TIME IT OPENS UP.
BUT WE, MY RECOMMENDATION, AND I THINK STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO PUT THIS ON THE SHELF.
UM, BUT HAVE YOU GUYS, I WANTED TO PRE PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS AS THIS WAS THE OTHER IDEA, CUZ THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT CROSSING THAT'S BEEN LONG.
WANTED AT THAT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
SO, SO THERE REALLY IS NO ACTION RECOMMENDED ON MY PART FOR 29 AND ARCOLA TONIGHT.
IT'S REALLY LETTING US KNOW ABOUT MAKING THE CFA GRANT SUBMISSION, UM, BY THE END OF JULY, UM, FOR THE OTHER INTERSECTION.
SO WE DON'T PASS A MOTION FOR NINE.
SO NINE, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU TABLE NINE.
TIM, TIM, BRIAN, DID I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT? I THINK WE HAD A DISCUSSION CUZ WE, WE WANT TO, YOU CAN'T THROW EVERYTHING AT THE, UH, AT
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THE WALL.AND I THINK WE HAD A CHOICE ON, UH, ON THE, UM, ON THE, I SAID DRIBBLES IS VERSE, THAT'S HOW LORI TOLD ME TO SAY DRE THIS VERSUS, UM, VERSES I THINK THE LEWIS AND VAUGHN, I HAVE HEARD IT'S PRONOUNCED.
WE GOT A LOT OF WEIRD NAMES IN PENNSYLVANIA, BUT WE, I THINK WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THE, THE LEWIS AND UH, VAUGHN ROAD VERSUS THIS, AND I THINK THAT WE THOUGHT THIS ONE WAS MORE ATTUNED TO, TO THE INTEREST AND I THINK THAT'S, YEAH.
AND TO HELENE'S POINT, I THINK THAT WE CAN GET MULTIPLE COUNTIES, UM, SUPPORT LETTERS AND MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS SUPPORT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A COMMONWEALTH FINANCING AUTHORITY MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION FUND GRANT TO FUND THE DESIGN OF INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT ROUTE ONE 13 SECOND AVENUE IN AVENUE
I'LL, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF A COMMONWEALTH FINANCING AUTHORITY MULTI MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION FUND GRANT TO FUND THE DESIGN OF AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AT ONE 13 SECOND AVENUE AND DRIV.
BEST RHODES, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE NUMBER NINE.
SO WE'LL THAT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD.
WE'LL, TABLE NINE, LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER 10.
CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE SOLICITOR TO FILE A DECLARATION OF TAKING FOR THE ASHTON BELT ROAD TRAIL PROJECT.
THIS, UH, STARTED OUT AS AN EASEMENT WITH THE AGREEMENT WITH GSK, AND THEY'VE CHANGED UP THE TERMS ON US.
UH, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE INSISTING THAT THE TOWNSHIP OWNED THE AREA OUTRIGHT THAT IT NOT BE AN EASEMENT.
UM, AND DOING IT AS A FRIENDLY DECLARATION OF TAKING IS EASIER THAN SUBDIVIDING.
UM, SO THIS ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION.
UM, SO I'LL JUST ASK, I DON'T KNOW, CHERYL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD I, WOULD I USE 34 OR SO? IT WOULD REALLY BE, UH, RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 34.
AND WHAT THE FI I'LL TYPE THE RESOLUTION TOMORROW.
UH, WHAT IT WOULD INCLUDE IS THE TOTAL LAND MASS, THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH IT'S BEING USED, AND SOME NAMES AND ADDRESSES, UH, THE PURPOSE.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE LEGALS YET.
UM, MIKE OR B YOU KNOW, SOMEONE FROM YOUR OFFICE.
UM, MAYBE YOU GUYS HAVE 'EM, BUT I NEED TO PUT IN THE FINAL RESOLUTION, THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE TRAIL IN, IN THE AGGREGATE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION WILL LOOK LIKE IN ITS WRITTEN FORM.
AND IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, IT'S A SINGLE PAGE, UH, THEN, YOU KNOW, VOTE ON IT TONIGHT WOULD BE GREAT AS 2021 DASH 34.
UM, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 34.
I HAVE A, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE, UH, UH, RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 34 AS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY BY OUR SOLICITOR.
ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND THAT WHAT, WHAT, BY THEM SAYING THAT THEY WANTED US TO OWN IT OUTRIGHT, THAT MEANS THEY WANTED US TO DO THE MOWING AND ALL THAT AROUND THERE.
THE STATED CONCERN THAT THEY HAD IS THAT BEING, BEING A BIG COMPANY, THEY FEAR LIABILITY FROM PEOPLE USING THE TRAIL, MAKING EXORBITANT CLAIMS AGAINST THEM, UM, SEEING A, SEEING A POTENTIAL RICH ENVIRONMENT FOR MAKING A CLAIM.
THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON THAT WAS STATED TO ME.
CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 33, AMENDING THE 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET TO FUND THE DESIGN OF THE ASCHEN FELT ROAD TRAIL PROJECT.
AS THE BOARD EXPRESSED THE DESIRE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ASCHEN FELT TRAIL IN THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, UM, I'D ASK THAT YOU'D ADOPT RESOLUTION 20 21 33 RESTORING FUNDING, UH, THAT WAS CUT OUT OF THIS YEAR'S CAPITAL BUDGET DUE TO, UH, ECONOMIC CONCERNS AS WE CLOSED OUT LAST YEAR.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT, SEEING THOSE FOURTH QUARTER REVENUES HAVING COME IN STRONG, UH, STRONGER THAN WE EXPECTED, UH, WE'RE COMFORTABLE RECOMMENDING GOING FORWARD THE PROJECT ENHANCE THE BOARD, UH, TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, RESTORING FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $150,000 FOR DESIGN ACQUISITION, LEGAL FEES, ET CETERA.
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ALL RIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, THEN.I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 33 AMENDING THE 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET TO FUND THE FUND, THE DESIGN OF THE ASCHEN FILTER ROAD TRAIL PROJECT.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 33 AMENDING THE 2021 CAPITAL BUDGET TO FUND THE DESIGN OF THE ASHTON FELTER ROAD TRAIL PROJECT.
AND NUMBER 12 FINALED THE ROAD TOUR DATE.
WE'RE GOING, WE'RE TAKING, WE'RE GETTING THE BAND TOGETHER.
WHAT? YEAH, WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS AND BECAUSE OF COVID, WE DIDN'T, UH, DO IT LAST YEAR.
AND, UH, I'M TRYING TO SAVE CHERYL AN EMAIL TO ALL YOU GUYS.
SEE IF WE CAN NAIL A DATE DOWN TONIGHT.
I WAS THINKING WE WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING NOT, WE DIDN'T WANNA INTERFERE WITH VACATION TIMES IN AUGUST AND MAYBE DO SOMETHING, UH, AND NOT DO IT OVER THE LABOR DAY.
SO WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, SEPTEMBER 1ST.
THAT'S A WEDNESDAY IN THE AFTERNOON.
ANYBODY OPPOSE JOHN'S RV SOMEWHERE? SEPTEMBER 1ST? I'M GOOD.
WE'RE, UM, THINKING ABOUT THREE BUDGET, A GOOD THREE HOURS TO DO THAT.
SO I CAN GET THE SCHOOL BUS IF YOU GUYS WANNA GO OUT IN THE SCHOOL.
EVERY YEAR WE DO A COMPREHENSIVE ROAD TOUR, UM, ON POSSIBLE PROJECTS THAT'LL BE IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET.
IT ALLOWS, I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU CAN FOLLOW, YOU CAN FOLLOW US.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ROOM ON THE BUS THOUGH.
YOU'RE GONNA DRIVE US THROUGH ALL THOSE STRIP? YEAH.
OH, WE'RE STAYING IN WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES.
THIS IS WHERE YOU LOAD US UP IN A TRUCK AND YOU DRIVE US THROUGH ALL THOSE DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS AND YEAH.
LET, LET'S TRY TO BE HERE SEPTEMBER 1ST.
WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE ROAD TRIP WITH MANAGER, TIM.
AND CONSULTANT REPORTS ENGINEERING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT UPDATES.
UM, THE TINDI RUN SANITARY SEWER PROJECT.
WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING APPROVAL FROM PICO AND THE COUNTY CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
SO WE ANTICIPATE GETTING THAT SOON.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE PROBABLY GOT THE BID LATE JULY.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROBABLY GO TO CONSTRUCTION IN LATE FALL.
WE ARE HAVING PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS WITH THE CONTRACTORS THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK, SO WE WANNA START THEM RIGHT AWAY.
THE SPRING MILL ESTATES PLEASANT LANE PROJECT, ALL THE PIPE IS INSTALLED.
I BELIEVE THE TOWNSHIP SENT OUT NOTICES FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY CAN CONNECT IF THEY WANT TO NOW.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BASE REPAIRING THE ROADS AND PAVING THE ROADS.
AND, AND WHAT ABOUT JACOBS AND, UM, WALNUT STREET? I HAVE, LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE STARTED.
HAVE YOU SEEN IT, JOHN? THEY HAVE THE GUN WORK.
JACOBS AND WALNUT CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT DO YOU DO AFTER THE SEVEN YEAR? I JUST WANT, WHEN ARE THEY GONNA FINISH THE CONSTRUCTION? I RODE BY THERE THIS SAME AFTERNOON AND I HAD TO SIT IN LINE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
I'M A LITTLE BIT UPSET ABOUT THAT.
IT WON'T BE TOMORROW, I PROMISE YOU THAT.
TURN UP THE HEARING AID BORING.
THEY DO ANTICIPATE FINISHING UP BY, UH, BY THE END OF AUGUST.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE PROGRESSING WELL.
UM, I, LIKE I SAID, I WAS IN TRAFFIC TODAY GOING BY AND, UM, I'M, I'M HAPPY THIS'S GOING TO BE DONE BEFORE I GET DONE MY TERM, AND I SHOULD, I SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE FIRE COMPANY.
THEY WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO OFFER 10 PARKING SPACES TO RESIDENTS WHO LOST THEIR OWN STREET PARKING.
SO THANK YOU TO REPRESENTATIVES OF THE FIRE COMPANY FOR ALLOWING A NCE OF PARK DOWN THERE WHILE THEY WERE DISPLACED.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, WHICH TRAIL DID WE JUST RECENTLY FINISH? OR THE ONE SHOULD RIVER CEST AND THE LOCK 60 TRAIL.
IT'D BE NICE TO DO ONE FOR THAT ALSO.
IF YOU GUYS WOULD SCHEDULE THAT.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT SWORN THE RIVER CREST ONE WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH.
I THINK THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO DO FENCING, UH, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK, AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A PUNCH LIST TO FINISH UP OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR SO.
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YEAH.AND ONE UPDATE THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE, THAT WE DO AT THE MONTHLY STAFF CONSULTANTS MEETING IS WE HAVE A TRAFFIC TASK FORCE OF ELEMENTS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THINGS FORWARD.
AND, AND IN THIS CASE, UH, SUPERVISOR HIGGINS HAD BROUGHT FORWARD TO US THE CONCERNS ON, UM, WRITTEN HOUSE ROAD AND THE, AND THE, THE SWITCHBACK S CURVES BETWEEN HESS ROAD AND SOUTH LOUIS ROAD.
UM, THROUGH THE HELP OF SERGEANT SOLARIO, HE GATHERED DATA, UM, WITH SPEEDS.
HE, UH, TOOK SPEED DATA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CURVES AS WELL AS AT BOTH ENDS APPROACHING THE TWO CURVES.
UH, HE GATHERED ACCIDENT DATA FOR US, UH, FOUND THAT OVER THE LAST, UH, FIVE YEARS THERE'S BEEN 16, 16 REPORTABLE CRASHES IN THAT AREA.
NINE OF 'EM HAVE BEEN ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE CURVES AND PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THOSE CURVES, UH, AT TOO FAST TO SPEED.
UH, SO WE'VE GONE OUT THERE AND, UH, ALSO DONE A, WHAT'S CALLED A BALL BANK INDICATOR TEST TO MEASURE HOW, HOW FAST THE CARS SHOULD BE GOING, GOING AROUND THOSE CURVES CUZ THEY'RE NOT SU SUPER ELEVATED, UH, TO POST WARNING SPEEDS.
SO, UM, WE FOUND THAT POSTING THOSE WITH A 15 MILE AN HOUR, UH, SAFETY SPEEDS AS WELL AS, UM, ADDING MORE SIGNAGE TO THE AREA WITH THE CHEVRONS AROUND THE CURVE.
SO AS YOU'RE, UH, COMING TO THEM, YOU SEE THAT SIGNAGE AND ADVANCED WARNING WITH SOME PAVEMENT MARKINGS, ET CETERA.
SO WE HAVE A DRAFT CONCEPT INTO STAFF AND, AND THE ENGINEER, UM, AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THE LAYOUT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
AND THEN, UM, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AND, UH, HAVE PUBLIC WORKS INSTALL THOSE THINGS.
BUT, UM, WE'LL SUBMIT A MEMO ONCE IT'S ALL FINALIZED.
BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A STATUS ON IT.
AND I THINK, UH, IT'S BEEN A GOOD PROJECT AND, AND IT, AND IT REVEALED WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD REVEAL, BUT IT'S GIVEN US THE DATA WE NEEDED TO SAY IT IN AN ENGINEERING FORMAT SO THE TOWNSHIP'S PROTECTED WITH THE LIABILITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE I KNOW SOMEONE WHO FEELS STRONGLY THAT ALL INTER ALL, ALL TURNS CAN BE DONE AT 40 MILES AN HOUR.
IT'S JUST LIKE, YEAH, IT'S A DEATH WISH OR SOMETHING.
UH, IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH CASEY FOR TAKING THAT ON AND, AND DEALING WITH IT.
AND WE PUT CHEVRON'S ON HOPWOOD ROAD AT THE S TURN.
AND WE'VE HAD A VERY FEW, IF ANY CARS GO OFF THE ROAD CUZ WE USED TO SEE THEM GULF THE ROAD SINCE THOSE CHEVRON'S WENT IN.
UM, THEY'VE ALL BEEN GONE AWAY CRASHES.
AND IT DOESN'T HELP THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL'S DOWN THE STREET WHEN IT GETS OUT, THE KIDS GO, YOU KNOW, THEY FLY DOWN THAT ROAD.
AND, UM, SO HOPEFULLY WITH ALL THESE WARNING SIGNS, IT'LL, IT'LL HELP PREVENT SOME OF THOSE CRASHES IN THE FUTURE.
AND DO WE HAVE A REPORT FROM OUR SOLICITOR? NOTHING FURTHER THIS EVENING.
ANY COMMENTS FROM SUPERVISORS? YES.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE MY BOOK LIST, AND I'M SORRY IT'S SO LONG THIS TIME, BUT I THINK I FORGOT A FEW BOOKS LAST TIME.
SO ARE YOU READY, CHERYL
UH, I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING.
IT'S ABOUT DEPRESSION, AND THE REASON SHE CAME UP WITH THAT TITLE IS THAT SHE IS A MOHAWK.
AND, UM, THE WORD IN MOHAWK FOR DEPRESSION TRANSLATES AS A MIND SPREAD OUT ON THE GROUND.
UM, ANOTHER ONE IS, UM, RACE IN AMERICA, 1 0 1 BY ALICIA SIMMONS, PRIDE OF FAMILY BY CAROL IONE, A BLACK, NOT A BLACK MAN IN A WHITE COAT BY DAMON TWEEDY, JUSTICE RUTH BADER GINSBURG BY DAVID HUDSON, A TRAILBLAZER BY DOROTHY BUTLER.
UH, QUIL JUSTICE SLEEPS BY STACEY ABRAMS AND HOW THE SOUTH WON THE CIVIL WAR BY HEATHER COX RICHARDSON.
AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW HOW I READ ALL THESE BOOKS, IT'S THAT I LISTEN TO THEM WHILE I'M CLEANING OUT STALLS, ET CETERA.
I DON'T, AS MUCH AS I LOVE PAPER BOOKS AND BEING ABLE TO READ THEM, I WOULDN'T GET ANY OF THEM READ.
SO I LISTEN TO THEM AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF APPS OUT THERE TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN.
AND THE ONE I LIKE THE BEST IS CHIRP, BECAUSE TELL YOU THE TRUTH, MOST OF THESE BOOKS I WOULD NEVER HAVE PICKED UP TO READ OR EVEN FOUND THEM.
BUT CHIRP SENDS ME A DAILY EMAIL, UM, ON THEIR DEALS OF THE DAY.
AND, UM, THEY'VE ALL BEEN FASCINATING AND JUST REALLY INTERESTING.
AND, AND I'M JUST VERY THANKFUL THAT
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I HAVE THAT APP TO FIND ALL THESE VERY INTERESTING BOOKS.ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM SUPERVISORS? YEAH, I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.
UM, I I, I, I NOTICED EARLIER THIS EVENING WHEN WE WERE DOING THESE, UH, CEREMONIAL THINGS WITH THE, UH, CHIEF TOOMEY AND CHIEF FREEMAN, UM, ALL OF THE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE HERE SHOWED UP HERE THIS EVENING.
AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE, THE LEADERSHIP THAT, THAT WE HAVE IN THIS TOWNSHIP.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU, I LOOKED OUT THERE AND, AND THE BACK OF THIS ROOM WAS FILLED WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS ON SOME ON DUTY, MOST OF THEM OFF DUTY.
THEY TOOK THE TIME TO COME UP HERE TO SHOW THEIR RESPECT TO, TO OUR, OUR OUTGOING CHIEF AND OUR INCOMING CHIEF.
AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WISH CHIEF FREEMAN THE BEST OF, UH, LUCK AND, UH, HOPE IT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL CAREER FOR THE REST OF THE REST OF YOUR TIME HERE, THAT'S ALL.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.