[Board of Supervisors on April 19, 2021.]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MONDAY, APRIL 19TH, 2021.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE RISE AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO COMPLY OF THE UNITED, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
UH, OKAY, I EVERYBODY'S SEEN THE, UH, AGENDA, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
UH, THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO TALK ABOUT OUR NEXT MEETING AND WHAT FORMAT IT'LL BE HELD IN.
AND I'M GONNA RECOMMEND IT THIS TIME THAT WE HOLD IT IN THE SAME FORMAT THAT WE ARE TONIGHT, WHICH IS, UH, STAFF AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PRESENT IN THE ROOM AND THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATING VIA ZOOM.
UH, THE POSITIVITY RATE IN THE COUNTY HAS SURGE BACK UP TO OVER 8% AT THIS TIME.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO WHIPPING THIS THROUGH VACCINATIONS, BUT VACCINATIONS WERE JUST OPENED UP TO ALL, UH, PERSONS 16 AND OLDER, AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET ONE.
OUR SYMPATHIES GO OUT TO THE TOWNSHIP STAFF IN LOWER PROVIDENCE.
THEY HAD A MAJOR OUTBREAK IN THEIR TOWNSHIP STAFF THAT RESULTED IN TWO HOSPITALIZATIONS AND ONE DEATH.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
ANY CO ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN.
UH, NEXT IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.
DO WE HAVE FOLKS ON THE LINE, MR. GRACE, THAT WANNA MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
FIRST LINED UP IS, UH, CHARLES DOBSON.
SORRY, WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULT ON, SIR.
UM, I HAD MY, I'M SORRY I INADVERTENTLY RAISED MY HAND.
UH, WE WERE HAVING SOME, UH, TECHNICAL DIFFICULT ON OUR SIDE.
OKAY, I THINK YOU CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, MR. GRACE.
SORRY, I WAS HAVING A PROBLEM GETTING SOUND BEFORE.
HI, THIS IS JACK RAFT, ACTUALLY.
UH, I LIVE AT 1 59 WOODLAND AVENUE IN OAKS.
UM, NOTICE THERE'S A RESOLUTION ON YOUR, UH, OUR RESOLUTION ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT FOR REGARDING S E I.
UM, AND JUST WANTED TO, UH, TAKE A MOMENT TO READ TWO DEFINITIVE STATEMENTS MADE BY SE I'S REPRESENTATIVE AT THE MARCH, 2019 MEETING WHERE THE SUPERVISORS APPROVED RESOLUTION 2019 DASH 20.
THE FIRST FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE IS WE WILL NOT OCCUPY BUILDING 12 UNTIL ALL THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE.
THE SECOND STATEMENT, THE ROADS WILL BE COMPLETED BEFORE WE OCCUPY THE BUILDING.
SO, AS NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPERIENCED MANY TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW YEARS, THE ASSURANCES THAT WE HEAR REGARDING S E I NEVER SEEM TO MATERIALIZE WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE AND THE TOWNSHIP PACES, THE PROSPECT UPHOLDING DEVELOPERS FEET TO THE FIRE.
NOW, MAYBE THERE'S A LEGITIMATE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST, AND IF SO, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR IT.
ALSO, IF THE SUPERVISORS MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPROVING THE RESOLUTION TYPE, THEN WE'D ASK EACH OF YOU TO PLEASE EXPLAIN FOR THE PUBLIC BEFORE YOU VOTE WHY YOU WOULD TAKE THIS ACTION.
UH, CHARLES STOLE HAS HIS HAND UP AGAIN.
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NOW? YES, PLEASE.PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
UH, CHARLES STALL 40 43 LOWER INDIAN HEAD, ROAD OAKS, PA 1956.
UM, HERE ALSO TO COMMENT A FEW THINGS.
UM, LIKE JACK SAID, THE TOWNSHIP'S ALWAYS READY TO HAND OVER TO S E I, WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT, UH, WE'RE STILL DRIVING THROUGH A BIG POTHOLE FROM THEIR, UH, SEWER LINE THAT THEY PUT IN.
UH, MR. DINGMAN SAID, UH, THEY WANTED TO SETTLE FOR A YEAR.
WE'RE STILL DRIVING THROUGH THE SAME POTHOLE.
UM, WHY, WHY WOULD WE GIVE S E I ANYTHING UNTIL THEY COMPLETE THEIR MISSION? THE INTERSECTION OF BLACKROCK ROAD IS REMAINING FROM A PREVIOUS ZONE OF PHASE OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM VARIANCE AGAIN TO PROCEED WITHOUT FINISHING.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE TOWNSHIP BENDS OVER BACKWARD FOR THE CORPORATION VERSUS THE CITIZENS OF THE TOWNSHIP.
I LIVE AT THREE 10 WOODLAND DRIVE IN COLLEGEVILLE.
I AM, UM, SPEAKING REGARDING, I BELIEVE IT'S, UM, AGENDA ITEM 13 REGARDING 3 95 GREENWOOD AVENUE, THE STAIR LU TRACT.
UM, I AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAS BEEN VOICING CONCERNS ALONG WITH SEVERAL OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ON 3 95 GREENWOOD AVENUE DUE TO THE ILLEGAL DUMPING THAT OCCURRED IN THE LATE EIGHTIES.
UM, THE PROPERTY 3 95 GREENWOOD IS ON THE AGENDA FOR PRELIMINARY APPROVAL TONIGHT.
UM, AS YOU MAY KNOW, MY NEIGHBORS AND I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY DUE TO THE POOR QUALITY OF THE PHASE ONE REPORT, UM, THAT TOOK PLACE, UM, THAT WAS PERFORMED BY, UM, THE ENGINEERING FIRM AND SUBMITTED BY THE BUILDER AND THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY BY THE LAW FIRM HAMBURG, RUBEN MULLEN, AND MAXWELL, THAT, UM, CURRENTLY REPRESENTS THE BUILDER, BUT ALSO REPRESENTED MR. STEERLY, WHO WAS PERFORMING THE ILLEGAL DUMPING IN THE LATE EIGHTIES.
UM, I DO GREATLY APPRECIATE THE DECISION OF THE TOWNSHIP TO PURSUE THE PHASE TWO STUDY OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE PHASE TWO REPORT WAS COMPLETED, UM, HOWEVER, IT WAS PERFORMED BY THE SAME FIRM THAT COMPLETED THE PHASE ONE REPORT THAT, UM, WAS DONE VERY POORLY.
UM, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT GAPS IN THE REPORT THAT, UM, WERE DETAILED, UM, IN A DOCUMENT THAT I SUBMITTED, UM, ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO I HOPE THAT THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEERS HAVE PERFORMED THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT THE FINDINGS OF THE REPORT WERE MORE COMPLETE THAN, UM, AND WERE ACTUALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FINDINGS THERE ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT WAS THE SAME BUILDER, I'M SORRY, THE SAME FIRM THAT COMPLETE THE PHASE ONE REPORT THAT WAS DONE SO POORLY.
UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF, UH, THE LACK OF, UM, TRANSPARENCY, UM, AND THE POOR QUALITY OF THAT REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED, THAT THE TOWNSHIP WILL CONTINUE TO, UM, TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS WHEN REVIEWING REPORTS FROM THIS FIRM, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO GAPS, UM, IN THE, IN THE FINDINGS, AND THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE FURTHER, UM, WORK PERFORMED, UM, TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE, UM, RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
NOW NEXT IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT.
WE JUST CONVENED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING AT SIX 15 TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTER AND, UH, TO SEEK COUNSELING FROM OUR SOLICITOR.
UH, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN OUT OF THAT MEETING.
UH, I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO EXAMINE THE BILL LIST AND, UH, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FOR MARCH 11TH, 2021 TO APRIL 15TH, 2021 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,307,000 $190 AND 78 CENTS.
WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES TONIGHT TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM
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OUR MARCH 16TH, 2021 REGULAR MEETING.UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR CORRECTION? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO DO BOTH THE MARCH 16TH, 2021 REGULAR MEETING AND THE MARCH 29TH, 2021 SPECIAL MEETING.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MARCH 16TH, 2021, THE REGULAR MEETING, AND MARCH 29TH, 2021, THE SPECIAL MEETING.
THERE'S NO PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE INTO, UH, OLD BUSINESS.
AND THE FIRST ITEM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN THE AGENDA UNDER OLD BUSINESS IS CONSIDER AWARDING A BID FOR THE CAROLINE DRIVE AND CARMEN CIRCLE STORMWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO HIGHWAY MATERIALS INC.
FROM FLOWER TOWN, PENNSYLVANIA IN THE AMOUNT OF $573,569 AND 10 CENTS.
AND I BELIEVE MR. DING'S GONNA SPEAK TO THAT.
UH, THE TOWNSHIP RECEIVED EIGHT BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE YOU HAVE A 420,007 $50 GRANT, A SMALL WATER AND SEWER GRANT FROM THE STATE.
SO IF YOU WERE TO AWARD TO THIS PARTICULAR, UM, LOW BIDDER HIGHWAY MATERIALS, WHICH WHICH WE ARE RECOMMENDING, THE NET COST WOULD BE ABOUT 153,000 IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT AWARD.
ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UM, DO, DO WE GET ANY MS FOR BENEFIT OUT OF THIS BILL? THERE'S NO POLLUTION REDUCTION, UH, IN YOUR POLLUTION REDUCTION PLAN.
IT'S A SEDIMENT REDUCTION, AND IT HAS TO BE IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE RUN OR GO RUN DRAINAGE AREA.
AND THIS ONE'S IN THE SCHOOL, SKOLL RIVER DRAINAGE BASIN, SO, NO.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER AWARDING A BID FOR CAROLINE DRIVE AND CARMEN CIRCLES STORMWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO HIGHWAY MATERIALS INC.
FROM FLOWER TOWN, PENNSYLVANIA IN THE AMOUNT OF $573,569 AND 10 CENTS.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, CONSIDER AWARDING A BID FOR THE RIVER CRUSH TRAIL CONNECTOR PROJECT TO MARINO CORPORATION FROM SKIP BACK, PENNSYLVANIA IN THE AMOUNT OF $405,955.
AND MR. DINGMAN, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOURS TOO.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, AGAIN, UH, YOU RECEIVED SEVEN BIDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING AWARD TO THE LOW BIDDER OF MARINO CORPORATION FOR THE $405,000 PLUS.
AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A GRANT PROJECT.
YOU HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANT FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY ON THIS ONE.
UH, SO YOUR NET COST WILL BE $306,000 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COST, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING AWARD.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AWARD THE BID TO MARINO CORPORATION FROM SKIP A IN THE AMOUNT OF $405,955 AND 50 CENTS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AND CONSIDER AWARDING A BID FOR THE ASHKIN FELTER ASHTON FELTER CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
DO C M CMR CONSTRUCTION INCORPORATED FROM EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA IN THE AMOUNT OF $215,985.
AND MR. DINGMAN, IT'S YOU AGAIN.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, THIS TIME YOU RECEIVED SIX BIDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING AWARD TO THE CMR CONSTRUCTION.
UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH HIM BEFORE ON OTHER PROJECTS IN OUR FIRM.
I, MYSELF HAVE NOT, BUT, UH, WE HAVE, UM, IN ADDITION TO THIS COST, UH, THAT YOU DID, UH, BUY THE CULVERT SEPARATELY, UH, UNDER COSTARS, AND THAT PURCHASE PRICE WAS ABOUT $70,600 I BELIEVE.
SO OVERALL YOU HAVE A $286,000 PROJECT HERE.
BILL, COULD YOU GO OVER, CUZ I KNOW IT WAS SO MUCH MORE BEFORE AND I THINK WE RE-ENGINEERED IT AND CONFIGURED IT TO GET IT TO THIS LOWER COST, CORRECT? YES,
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WE DID, UM, THROUGH THE, UM, COSTAR PROGRAM AND THE PREFABRICATION OF THE CULVERT IS WHY THAT WAS.AND, AND, AND I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, I I SAY THAT LATER ON, WE'RE GONNA, UH, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS ROADS THAT ARE BEING PAVED AND ASH AND FILTER AS ONE OF THEM.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE DONE BEFORE WE PAVE THE ROAD.
WE, WE'VE COORDINATED THAT IN THE CONTRACT SPECS FOR THE ROAD JOBS.
UH, I THINK WE SAID SEPTEMBER 15TH MAYBE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EARLY SEPTEMBER IS BEFORE THEY COULD COME IN AND PAY COOL ASHE PE NOW THEY'LL BE IN THERE PROBABLY MILLING AND DOING THE BASE REPAIRS BEFORE THAT TIME, BUT THE SURFACE COAT WOULD NOT GO DOWN UNTIL AFTER THE CULVERT'S COMPLETE.
UH, THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL CONSIDER AWARDING A BIDS FOR THE ASCHEN FELDER CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT TO C RM C M R CONSTRUCTION INC.
FROM EASTON, PENNSYLVANIA IN THE AMOUNT OF $215,985.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AWARD A BID, UH, TO C M R CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ASHKIN ASHTON FELTER CULVERT REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
NUMBER SEVEN, CONSIDER AWARDING A BID FOR REPAIRS TO THE JOYCE PROPERTY AT NINE 11 SOUTH LEWIS ROAD TO OLSON CONSTRUCTION FROM BERWIN, PENNSYLVANIA IN THE AMOUNT OF $244,300.
UH, WE'VE RECEIVED BIDS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, IT IS TO MAKE, UH, TO DO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS OF THE HOUSE AT NINE 11 SOUTH LEWIS ROAD.
IT DATES FROM 1750, AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE, TO THE LACK OF, UH, BIDDERS THAT WE RECEIVED ON THIS PROJECT.
UM, THERE WAS A MANDATORY MANDATORY PRE-BID CONSTRU PRE-CONSTRUCTION BID MEETING, UM, AND WE ONLY HAD ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN CONTRACTORS THERE.
SO, UM, TO HAVE RECEIVED TWO BIDS, CONSIDER US FORTUNATE IN THAT REGARD.
UM, ONE OF THEM TO WILSON, AS YOU INDICATED, CAME IN AT $244,300.
THAT'S UNDER THE, UM, BUDGETED EXPENDITURE THAT'S APPROVED IN THE BUDGET AT $250,000.
UH, CHRIS HOLLER FROM DEWEY ENGINEERING REVIEWED THEIR SUBMITTALS AND DOCUMENTS, AND HE'S PROVIDED US WITH A RECOMMENDATION, UH, LETTER RECOMMENDING AWARD OF THE BID TO WOL CONSTRUCTION.
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE NERVOUS TO WORK ON STRUCTURE THAT OLD OR IS THAT WHY, UH, ONE, ONE OF THE OPEN ISSUES IN THERE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WORK ON MANY OF THE WINDOWS OF THE 25 WINDOWS IN THE HOUSE, AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS TO RESTORE THE INTERIOR FINISHES TO THE, YOU KNOW, OH, OKAY.
PRE, PRE-WORK CONDITION, UM, WITH PLASTER WALLS.
YOU KNOW, RATHER LARGE VARIABLES.
SO, UM, I, I THINK MANY PEOPLE JUST, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANNA GET INTO THAT, THAT KIND OF WORK.
IT'S NOT A STANDARD ROAD PAVING PROJECT.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, I WILL REPEAT, LIKE I'VE SAID IN THE PAST ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, I, UM, THINK THAT WE NEED A PURPOSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
UM, I SEE US GOING DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE HERE, CONTINUING TO PUT OUT A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS EVERY SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, I DON'T MIND PUTTING THE MONEY INTO THE PROPERTY AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME KIND OF PURPOSE FOR IT ON DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, AND, AND, AND I'M, UM, I, I HEAR YOU.
WE, YOU KNOW, THE, WE MADE A DEAL WITH MR. UH, JOYCE, YOU KNOW, SOME YEARS AGO.
IT WAS A PREVIOUS BOARD TO LIKE, WE WERE GOING TO TAKE DEED TO THE PROPERTY WHEN HE WAS NO LONGER THERE, WHEN HE WAS NO LONGER OCCUPYING THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, EVENTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, I, I THINK THIS WOULD BECOME OUR HISTORICAL PARK AND WE WOULD, UH, THE HOUSE ITSELF IS WORTH SHOWCASING AND THEN, UH, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT ELSE WE WANT TO DO ON THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS THE PICNIC GROVE AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
BUT YEAH, I THINK WE EVENTUALLY WILL HAVE A PURPOSE WHEN WE WILL GET IT.
AND, UH, SO I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GO AHEAD AND, AND DO THE REPAIRS ON THE HOUSE SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THERE WHEN IT DOES COME INTO OUR POSSESSION.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR TOO, WE ARE KIND OF MANDATED TO DO THESE CHANGES WHILE THE UPDATES WHILE HE'S THERE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T FIX THE ROOF, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO A HOUSE THAT HAS BAD, RIGHT? AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM REALLY SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE PROPERTY, AND I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, BUT AS YOU JUST SAID, YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, PICNIC TABLES AND THE SUCH, MAYBE WE SHOULD SIT
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DOWN AND WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN FOR THIS THING.UM, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN MIND AS WE GO AHEAD AND START MAKING REPAIRS ON THIS.
AND MAYBE, WE'LL, WE'LL CHANGE THINGS AS WE GO ALONG AS FAR AS REPAIRS ARE CONCERNED.
UM, MAYBE THERE ARE OUTBUILDINGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN.
MAYBE WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF PLAN ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I THINK IT WOULD DO WELL WITH WHAT YOU MENTIONED.
UM, BUT I, I STILL THINK INSTEAD OF JUST THROWING MONEY AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN ON IT, THAT'S ALL.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MOVE TO CONSIDER AWARDING A BID FOR REPAIRS TO THE JOYOUS PROPERTY AT NINE 11 SOUTH LEWIS ROAD TO WOLFSON CONSTRUCTION FROM BURWIN, PENNSYLVANIA IN THE AMOUNT OF $244,300.
AND NEXT ON OUR AGENDA, CONSIDER, CONSIDER ENACTING OR ENACTING ORDINANCE 5 89 AMENDING THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD.
AND WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING, MR. B BRAZEN CAN FILL US IN.
THIS, THIS HAS YOU, UM, TAKING OFF ONE OF THE POWERS THAT EXIST BY STATE LAW FOR THE, UM, YOUR, UM, THE, THE STATE LAW GIVES YOUR BOARD THE POWER TO SPEND MONEY DIRECTLY AND ENTER INTO CONTRACTS.
THIS JUST PAIRS THE FACT TO TAKE THAT ONE POWER AWAY.
WE KEEP IT AS A, THE RECOMMENDING BODY THAT EVERYBODY HAD INTENDED THE DEBATE.
IF THERE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE BOARD? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 5 89 TO AMEND CHAPTER 37 OF THE TOWNSHIP CODE OF ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND CLARIFY THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF PARK AND REC BOARD.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ENACT.
ORDINANCE 5 89 AMENDING THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.
NOW WE'RE ON TO THE NEW BUSINESS PORTION OF THE MEETING.
AND THE FIRST THING, ITEM NUMBER NINE ON YOUR AGENDA IS CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 22 TO AMEND RE RESOLUTIONS 2019 DASH 20 AND 2018 DASH 36 TO PERMIT S E I OCCUPANCY OF BUILDING 12 PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT BLACKROCK ROAD, UPPER INDIAN HEAD ROAD AND GREENTREE ROAD.
AND, UH, JOE, YOU WANNA TELL US ABOUT THAT? UH, THE, THE PRIOR THERE, THE, UH, PRELIMINARY APPROVAL RESOLUTION FOR PHASE ONE NORTH FOR S E I, UH, REQUIRED A SERIES OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN THOSE GOT CARRIED FORWARD TO THE FINAL APPROVAL, UH, WHERE BUILDING, UH, 12 COULD NOT, COULD BE BUILT OR COULD NOT BE OCCUPIED UNTIL THE ROADWORK ON THE SURROUNDING ROADS WAS ALL, UH, DONE.
UM, THE S E I IS NOW SEEKING TO AMEND THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT BLACKROCK THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE, IN THE AGENDA, UH, THAT THEY NOW HAVE TO DO, UM, SOME WETLAND PERMITTING IN ORDER TO MOVE AHEAD TO COMPLETE THAT WORK.
UM, ORDINARILY AND PART IMPARTIAL RESPONSE TO ONE OF THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, ORDINARILY WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ENTERTAINED THAT, BUT DUE TO, UM, THE COVID PANDEMIC, UH, THERE'S A VERY LOW NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WHO WILL INITIALLY BE OCCUPYING, UH, THE BUILDING, AND THEY MAY NEVER GET TO THE NUMBER THAT THEY HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.
UH, THE WAY WE STRUCTURED THIS APPROVAL RESOLUTION WAS THAT ALL THE OTHER WORK OTHER THAN THAT INTERSECTION HAS TO BE COMPLETED, AND THAT AT THE TIME THEY FIRST OCCUPY, THEY'LL IDENTIFY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING IN THERE.
AND THAT WILL BE THE NUMBER UNTIL ALL THE REST OF THE WORK IS DONE, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH, UH, PANDEMIC OR THE LIFTING OF THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION.
SO WHATEVER THAT FIRST NUMBER IS UNDER CURRENT COVID GUIDELINES THAT, THAT THEY USE TO OCCUPY, IT WON'T GO HIGHER THAN THAT UNTIL THEY DO ALL THE WORK THAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO.
SO THAT'S WHY WE CALLED IT A PARTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE EARLIER RESOLUTION.
WHY DO IT PARTIAL? WHY, WHY EVEN GIVE THEM THIS? WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST FINISH THE ROAD? THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, A, A DELAY THAT THEY, THEY CHARACTERIZE, AND I'LL LET MR. MULLIN SPEAK TO IT, HE'S HERE, UM, REMOTELY, UH, THAT THEY DID NOT ANTICIPATE WITH THE, UH, WETLANDS DECLARATION FOR ONE PORTION OF THE CORNER AND HAVING TO GET SEPARATE PERMITTING FOR THAT BEFORE THEY CAN DO THE WORK.
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AND WHAT, SO THAT'S A, UH, SO MAYBE MR. MOLL CAN ANSWER THAT, BUT THERE'S THIS, THIS IS OPEN-ENDED.SO THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, UM, THE CONCERNS ARE LEGITIMATE.
IT'S AN OPEN-ENDED, UM, AGREEMENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN THIS, WHEN THIS, WHAT'S THE DEAL? WHEN, WHEN THE PERMITS APPROVED, HOW QUICKLY WILL THEY GET THE WORK DONE? I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE, UH, A BACK END TO THIS.
WHEN WE NEED A DATE, WE NEED SOMETHING.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THE PERMIT? MAYBE MR. MULLIN CAN ANSWER THAT.
BUT IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, I CAN SPEAK NOW.
UH, BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED WAS, BACK WHEN THIS RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED ON MARCH 29TH, 2019, WE HAD 2,583 PEOPLE ON THE SOUTH CAMPUS AND WERE ANTICIPATING 650 PEOPLE ON THE NORTH CAMPUS.
WE THEN ENTERED INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH VARIOUS NEIGHBORS TO DO THE SEVEN BULLET POINTS THAT ARE IN THAT RESOLUTION.
WE ACCOMPLISHED SIX OF THE SEVEN BULLET POINTS.
IT COST OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND THIS PARTICULAR PIECE, THE PROBLEM WAS WE NEGOTIATED AND NEGOTIATED WITH THE LANDOWNER, COULDN'T GET ANYWHERE.
ENDED UP THAT THE TOWNSHIP HAD TO ACTUALLY CONDEMN THE PROPERTY.
THE TOWNSHIP TOOK TIME TO CONDEMN IT.
AND MY COMPLAINING JUST STATING A FACT, IT TAKES TIME TO CONDEMN.
AND THEN ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE PROPERTY, WE DISCOVERED WHEN WE WENT ON TO THE PROPERTY THAT THERE'S WETLANDS ISSUES AND YOU KNOW HOW WETLANDS ISSUES ARE.
WE'RE LOOKING TO OCCUPY IN JUNE, AND WE FULLY EXPECT TO BE COMPLETED.
UH, JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION NOW, BY OCTOBER, THE WORK WILL BE DONE THIS SUMMER AND WILL BE DONE BY OCTOBER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR BASICALLY A THREE OR FOUR MONTH EXTENSION, UH, AFTER WE'VE DONE SIX OF THE SEVEN BULLET POINTS.
AND THE IMPORTANT PART IS THAT THIS SUMMER WHEN WE OCCUPY, AND THIS GOES TO JOE'S RESOLUTION, WE EXPECT TO HAVE 1000 PEOPLE ON THE SOUTH CAMPUS AND 100 PEOPLE ON THE NORTH CAMPUS FOR A TOTAL OF 1100 VERSUS THE OLD TOTAL WAS WELL IN EXCESS OF 3000 PEOPLE.
UM, THAT'S, UH, A GOOD CLARIFICATION.
I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT, UH, MR. BRETON TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE RESOLUTION GIVEN THE TIME OR THE, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE WETLAND APPROVAL'S GONNA COME THROUGH.
SO WHAT, MR. MULLIN, WHAT KIND OF ASSURANCE CAN WE GET THAT, UH, UPON, UH, RECEIPT OF THE, UH, WETLAND APPROVAL, ALL THE ENGINEERING'S DONE, I ASSUME.
SO WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE RECEIPT OF THAT YOU, YOU START CONSTRUCTION? CAN YOU GIVE US SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA START? WE CERTAINLY CAN AGREE THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIPT OF THE 1 0 5 PERMIT, WE WILL START CONSTRUCTION.
AND I THINK YOUR, YOUR PROTECTION IS THAT WE WOULD AGREE THAT AT THAT WHEN WE GO TO OCCUPY THE BUILDING AND WE COMPLY WITH THE TOWNSHIP RESOLUTION, WE HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON NORTH AND SOUTH.
AND OUR, OUR PENALTY IS IF WE DON'T GET IT DONE BY OCTOBER, WE CAN'T BRING FURTHER PEOPLE INTO THE BUILDINGS.
SO I THINK THAT PROTECTS YOU FROM ANY GAMES ON OUR PART.
WE'VE GOTTA BE DONE BY OCTOBER OR WE'VE GOT TWO BIG BILL OR BUNCH OF BIG BUILDINGS SITTING THERE EMPTY.
HAS THE PERMIT BEEN SUBMITTED MR. MULLEN FOR THE WETLANDS? ABSOLUTELY.
SO, UM, CAN WE PUT THAT IN AGREEMENT SOMEWHERE WITH 30 DAYS? CAN YOU WORK WITH MR. MULLEN? YES.
DO WE HAVE COM SOME KIND OF IDEAS, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET WHAT THEY NEED BEFORE THEY CAN START CONSTRUCTION? THE PERMIT? I MEAN, I KNOW THEY'VE APPLIED FOR IT.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET APPROVED? WELL, WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE IT SOON, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'LL BE DOING THE WORK THIS SUMMER AND WE'LL BE COMPLETING THE WORK IN OCTOBER.
IS IT THE SMALL CORNER RIGHT THERE WHERE ALL THE MARK OUTS ARE? YEAH.
PART OF THE, PART OF THE COMPLICATION, I WASN'T TOO DEEP INTO THIS.
PART OF THE COMPLICATION MR. MULLIN ALLUDED TO IS, UM, WE HAD STRICT ORDERS, YOU KNOW, NOT TO BE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND UNTIL THEY TOOK, UNTIL WE USED THE EMINENT DOMAIN, THEY COULDN'T GO ON THE PROPERTY TO SITE TEST IT, WHICH PUSHED EVERYTHING BACK A LITTLE BIT.
SO, SO THEY COULDN'T DO THE EXAMINATION OF THE SOIL RIGHT.
OR IT BECAME OWNED BY WHOEVER.
SO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT'S NOT COMPLETED.
IS THAT THE INTERSECTION, THE, THE WIDE, THE WIDENING AT THAT INTERSECTION AT BLACKROCK AND CIDER MILL AND GREEN OR GREENTREE? YEAH.
GREENTREE AND LIGHT, UM, BLACKROCK AND GREENTREE AND UPPER INDIAN HEAD.
I JUST, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD HERE TO KNOW THAT THEY, THAT THERE WAS A TEMPORARY, UH, SIGNAL THERE THAT'S BEEN TEMPORARY FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS THAT S E I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW
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THEM TO MAYBE HOLD US? I JUST, I JUST WANT SOME KIND OF REAL, YOU KNOW, GUARANTEE THAT IF I GIVE, GIVE UP, IF I ALLOW THEM TO OCCUPY THAT BUILDING, I'M GONNA GET WHAT I NEED THERE.THAT, THAT TEMPORARY LIGHT'S BEEN THERE FOR 20 SOME YEARS AND IT'S LIKE, UH, I'M A, I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME TO SAY YES ON THIS THING, ED, HELP ME OUT.
YOU KNOW, GIMME SOME KIND OF GUARANTEE.
WELL,
SO IT'S ONLY A COUPLE MONTHS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT THE, THE, WHEN THAT INTERSECTION'S DONE, THAT LIGHT WILL BE REPLACED WITH A, A PERMANENT LIGHT.
THAT'S PART OF THE, PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
JOHN, I, IF I CAN JUMP IN, IT TOOK, IT TOOK THEM QUITE A WHILE TO GET THE SIGNAL EQUIPMENT FOR BOTH INTERSECTIONS.
THIS ONE LAGGED BEHIND, AND THEY WERE GOING TO BE SET TO GO.
THEY ALL, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE STOCKPILING ALL THIS SIGNAL EQUIPMENT WAITING TO GET IN THERE TO PUT IT IN.
SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND PURCHASED ALL THAT WITH THE INTENT THAT IT IS GOING UP.
WELL, GUYS, JUST, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION HASN'T STOPPED SINCE DURING THE COVID, YOU KNOW? NO, NO, NO.
SO THERE WAS A, THERE'S A LONG LEAD TIME TO ORDER SIGNAL PLACE, RIGHT.
THEY WERE DELAYED AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, SUTTER MILL ROAD IN, IN UPPER, UPPER INDIAN HEAD ROAD.
AND FINALLY THAT THOSE CAME IN, UH, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO OPERATE AT THAT TIME.
AND SO THESE SIGNAL POLES CAME IN AND THEN THEY RAN INTO THE PROBLEM WITH THE WETLANDS.
UM, THAT POTHOLE THAT WAS COMPLAINED ABOUT BY, I BELIEVE MR. STOLE.
DO, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS, BILL? WE, WE CAN GET THAT FIXED.
S E I IT HAS TO BE FIXED, YOU KNOW.
BETWEEN THE TRAIL AND THE CREEK AT THE LOWER END OF THE JOB.
DID YOU HEAR THAT MR. MULLINS? I GOT A PROBLEM.
AND WE WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM TAKING CARE OF IT.
ALRIGHT, I'LL, UH, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 22 TO AMEND RESOLUTIONS 2019 DASH 20 AND 2018 DASH 36 TO PERMIT S E I OCCUPANCY OF BUILDING 12 PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF INTER IN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT BLACKROCK ROAD, UPPER INDIAN HEAD ROAD AND GREEN TREE ROAD.
CAN WE JUST AMEND, CAN WE ADD TO IT THAT'S CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN WITHIN 30 DAYS OF RECEIPT OF THE WETLANDS PERMIT.
I I WILL ADD THAT LANGUAGE BEFORE SIGNATURES.
SO IT'S THE ONE YOU HAVE PLUS THAT SENTENCE, BASICALLY.
SO I HAVE A MOTION WITH THE ADDITION THAT, UH, THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE, OF RECEIVING THE WETLAND PERMIT BY S E.
I DO I HAVE A SECOND TO ALL THAT? I'LL SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, NUMBER 10, CONSIDER ACCEPTING DEDICATION OF OPEN SPACE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS EASEMENT AND SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETED BY TOLL BROTHERS AS PART OF THE PRESERVE AT PROVIDENCE DEVELOPMENT.
MR. GRACE, WE HAVE ALISON Z REPRESENTING THE CLIENT, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MONITOR RIGHT NOW, IT SHOWS AREAS OF GREEN THAT ARE THE OPEN SPACE, THE ESSENTIALLY THE OPEN SPACE BORDERS, THE, UH, PHOENIXVILLE CUTOFF, THE PHOENIXVILLE SPUR, UM, THAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO GET.
AND WE'RE STILL SORT OF WORKING THROUGH SOME DETAILS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE PEN.IS WITH IT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TRYING ALL ALONG TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THAT SPUR SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT ON, ON THIS MAP, THAT THAT'S THE OPEN SPACE WE'RE SPEAKING OF.
TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN ARROW, THAT'S THE EMERGENCY, UM, ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WAS ALREADY COMPLETED ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THAT'S THE BENTLEY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS AN ENTRANCE OFF OF HOLLOW ROAD, UH, AGAIN, SO IT'S A COMPLETE EMERGENCY ACCESS THROUGH THERE.
AT THIS POINT, I'LL LET ALLISON FILL IN ANY DETAILS I'VE MISSED.
UM, AS JEFF SHOWED YOU ON THE SCREEN, UH, WE ARE OFFERING FOR DEDICATION, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN
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IN THE PRESERVATIVE PROVIDENCE, WHICH WAS KNOWN AS ENTRAPMENT TRACT.AND YOU'LL SEE BLACKROCK ROAD IS THE FRONTAGE.
UH, THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE'RE OFFERING FOR DEDICATION THIS EVENING, UM, IS THE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS A MAINTENANCE BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY $61,000 THAT HAS BEEN POSTED WITH THE TOWNSHIP TO, UM, SECURE THE, UH, SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE 18 MONTH MAINTENANCE PERIOD.
AND, UH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
HOW MUCH IS THE FULL OPEN SPACE THAT I SEE IN GREEN? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH PROPERTY THAT IS? SURE.
IT'S THREE DIFFERENT, UM, SMALL PARCELS BECAUSE THE SPUR ITSELF IS ALREADY DESIGNATED AS THE SPUR THAT YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM.
SO IT'S AN APPROXIMATELY, UM, 7.99 ACRE PIECE AND APPROXIMATELY 632 SQUARE FOOT PIECE, WHICH IS THAT TINY PIECE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER.
AND THEN THE LAST STRIP IS APPROXIMATELY 0.3 ACRES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR ACCEPTING DEDICATION OF OPEN SPACE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS EASEMENT AND SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETED BY TOLL BROTHERS AS PART OF THE PRESERVE AT PROVIDENCE DEVELOPMENT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AND NUMBER 11, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS A PROPOSED MS FOUR STREAM, BA STREAM BANK STABILIZATION.
SAY THAT 10 TIMES FAST PROJECT ON A TRIBUTARY TO THE SCHOOLHOUSE RUN.
UM, THE DEVELOPER OF 3 57 GREENWOOD AVENUE, WHICH IS NOT THE STEERLY TRACK, IT'S THE OTHER ONE THAT I THINK WV HOLMES IS, IS LOOKING TO DEVELOP.
UM, APPROACHED ME IN THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING A WAIVER FROM THE 50 TO TWO YEAR REQUIREMENT ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND WE ALSO KNEW THAT THEY HAD A PLACE OF SANITARY SEWER LINE ALONG THIS PARTICULAR TRIBUTARY ON TOWNSHIP, CURRENT TOWNSHIP OPEN SPACE PROPERTY.
AND THE THIRD ITEM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS THAT THE, THIS IS IN A SCHOOLHOUSE RUN DRAINAGE BASIN, WHICH IS THE POLLUTION REDUCTION PLAN AREA FOR YOU FOR SEDIMENT.
AND SO THOSE THREE THINGS SORT OF CAME TO LIGHT THAT, HEY, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR A DEVELOPER TO DO SOME POLLUTION REDUCTION PLAN WORK FOR THE TOWNSHIP AND SAVE YOU MONEY ON THE GSK BASIN.
SO, UM, WE WORKED WITH A DEVELOPER.
UH, THEY, THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN DO ABOUT 400 LINEAR FEET OF STREAM BANK RESTORATION.
UH, WE SENT SOME PRELIMINARY SKETCHES TO D E P, UH, TO GET THEIR BLESSING ON IT.
THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US A FINAL BLESSING YET, UH, BUT WE, WE BELIEVE THEY, THEY WILL.
UM, SO WE THINK THAT, UH, THIS IS A SAVINGS FOR YOU AND THE DEVELOPER AND THE DEVELOPER WOULD GET IN A WAIVER INSTEAD OF 50 TO TWO, YOU'LL GO 50 TO 10 IN TERMS OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS STILL BEYOND, YOU KNOW, 90% OF WHAT MUNICIPALITIES DO IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVES HERE, AND IT WOULD BE A, A SHOWCASE PROPERTY, UH, TO SHOW OFF, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL BOARDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN WIN, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE TOWNSHIP PURSUE THIS AVENUE.
AND AS LONG AS D E P WOULD PERMIT THIS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS WORK OUT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS GOING FORWARD.
HOW DO THEY, THIS THIS IS GIVE YOU ABOUT, UH, 46,000 POUNDS OF CREDIT PER SEDIMENT.
UH, YOUR OVERALL FIVE YEAR GOAL IS 55,000 POUNDS.
SO YOU, THIS IS, WHAT'S THAT ABOUT 85% I GUESS, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? AROUND 80 TO 85%.
SO THIS IS, GOES A LONG WAY TO MEETING YOUR FIVE YEAR, UM, PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS.
SO WHAT DO THEY ACTUALLY DO, BILL, WHEN YOU SAY THIS? THE, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF JEFF, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.
UM, THERE'S PICTURES OF THE EXISTING STREAM.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S VERTICAL BANKS THAT HAVE ERODED.
UM, WHAT THEY'LL DO IS ESSENTIALLY LAY THOSE BANKS BACK AND THROW A GENTLE SLOPE, UH, THREE TO ONE OR FLATTER SLOPE.
UH, THERE'S ALSO PICTURES OF ONE THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED.
THIS IS A PROJECT WE DID AT A GOLF
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COURSE ON IN BUCKS COUNTY, UH, WHERE THE STREAM BANK WAS VERTICAL AND, UH, WAS LAID BACK WITH PLANNINGS, ET CETERA, AND REINFORCEMENT.SO, UH, WE HOPE THAT THE LOOK LIKE THIS ONE IS COMPLETED.
NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THEY USE RIP WRAP DOWN AT THE WATER LINE TO, YEAH, THERE'S SOME RIP WRAP, BUT THERE'S VERY LITTLE HARDSCAPING.
THIS ONE QUESTION, DID YOU TAKE THAT PICTURE WALK OF THE GOLF COURSE THERE?
UM, IN YEARS PAST, I HAVE WALKED THIS UNNAMED TRIBUTARY SCHOOLHOUSE RUN SINCE IT'S BASICALLY IN MY BACKYARD.
AND, UM, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE, UH, IT, IT'S REALLY NICE BACK THERE AGAIN.
WE SEE IT AS A WIN-WIN, YOU KNOW, TOWNSHIP SAVING MONEY ON THE OVERALL GSK BASIN.
YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
WE HOPE TO HAVE IT DONE, YOU KNOW, AS PHASE ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS WILL PROCEED CUZ THEY NEED TO DO THE SANITARY SEWER LINE UP FRONT.
AND, UH, TO DO THIS WORK IN COORDINATION WITH THAT SANITARY SEWER LINE, WHICH WE'RE DRAWING PARALLEL WITH THE STREAM IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IT SAYS THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED THIS EVENING.
ASSUME WE'LL BE VOTING ON SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE ON THIS YEAH.
AS THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS COME FORWARD, UH, THEY'VE BEEN SUBMITTED AS A PRELIMINARY PLAN AT THIS POINT.
IT'S UNDER REVIEW, SO IT'LL BE GOING THROUGH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION COMING BEFORE THE BOARD PROBABLY IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, I WOULD GUESS.
CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 23, GRANTING APPROVAL OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION AT 1 71 AMELIA STREET.
UH, MR. BREON, UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ON THIS ONE.
UM, UP THE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE CRITERIA FOR MINOR SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, WHICH IS COMBINES PRELIMINARY AND FINAL ON SMALL JOBS THAT MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.
UH, AND THIS IS JUST SUCH A, UM, SUCH A PROJECT THAT'S TAKING A 6,500 SQUARE FOOT LOT LINE TO GET INTO TWO PARCELS, ROUGHLY HALF OF THAT SIZE EACH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND IT DOES NOT INVOLVE CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT'S AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS YOU CAN GET.
CHUCK DOBSON IS ON THE ZOOM CALL, BUT I WILL ALSO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS ADDRESS WAS ALSO PART OF A, A ZONING HEARING BOARD APPLICATION TO APPROVE THE LOT SIZE.
THEY HAD TO GET A VARIANCE FROM THE, FROM THE ZONING, UM, CODE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS.
IT'S REALLY JUST THE RECOMMENDING THE MINOR SUB OR APPROVING THE MINOR SUBDIVISION.
SO, SO WE APPROVED THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN ALL THEY NEED IS A BUILDING PERMIT.
THEY, WELL, IF THEY DO OTHER CONSTRUCTION, YES, THEY WOULD NEED A BUILDING PERMIT, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO HOUSES ON THERE.
THEY WOULDN'T, I'M ASSUMING THEY WOULD SELL ONE OF THE PROPERTIES AND I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S NEW CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING THERE.
UM, YEAH, I, THERE IS NO NEW, UM, THERE ARE NO IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED.
IT'S SIMPLY TO TAKE TWO PRINCIPLE USES ON A SINGLE LOT AND PUT A SINGLE PRINCIPLE USE ON EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT.
THAT'S REALLY THE, UH, THE OBJECTIVE OF THE, UH, DEVELOPER MEAL STREET PARTNERS.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL CONSIDER A MOTION ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 23, GRANTING APPROVAL OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION AT 1 71 AMELIA STREET.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT, CON NEXT IS ITEM 13.
CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 20 21 15 GRANTING PRELIMINARY LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR STANLEY TRACK AT 3 95 GREENWOOD AVENUE.
AND MR. MULLIN IS ON THE CALL FOR THIS.
AS THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
UH, BASICALLY IF YOU RECALL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SUBJECT TO US ADEQUATELY ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF OUR NEIGHBORS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT MAY EXIST BECAUSE OF ILLEGAL DUMPING THAT DOUG STEERLY DID NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
UH, AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, WHICH I TOTALLY FORGOT CUZ YOU'RE TALKING TO SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE HAD FOR LUNCH YESTERDAY.
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BUT, UH, MY FIRM DID REPRESENT STEERLY IN THE LITIGATION WITH THE TOWNSHIP, WHICH IS WHY I HAD A FILE AND COULD DEMONSTRATE THAT IN FACT WE HAD SATISFIED D E P AND THE TOWNSHIP AS TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE MATERIAL.SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORS AND, AND I THINK THEY WERE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, WE WENT BACK OUT.
WE DETERMINED A STUDY THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO DO AND WE RAN IT PAST THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER AND IN FACT, THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER WAS PRESENT WHEN WE DID THE TEST.
WE DID TEST BOARDS, WE COME UNCOVERED DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE TOOK THOSE THINGS AND DID SOIL AND WATER SAMPLES AND DETERMINED THAT THERE IS NOTHING THERE WHICH BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
UH, THERE WAS NO ASBESTOS IN THE CONCRETE.
AND WE HAVE DETAILED, UH, WORDING ON OUR PLAN, WHICH INDICATES HOW WE WILL HANDLE THIS GOING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, AND THAT WE WILL ONLY BRING CLEAN FILL ONTO THE PROPERTY, UH, IF ADDITIONAL FILL IS NECESSARY.
UH, THE BOTTOM LINE WAS THAT YOUR ENGINEER INDICATED THAT NO FURTHER ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING IS WARRANTED AT THIS TIME AND THAT THERE IS NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT FROM THE PREVIOUS FILL.
SO BASED UPON THAT, IN OUR WILLINGNESS TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE REVIEW LETTERS, WE ARE SEEKING PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL.
MR. DINGMAN, WERE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE LEVEL TWO STUDY ON THIS LANE? YES, WE WERE.
OUR ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGER OF OUR FIRM WAS PRESENT DURING THE, UH, MARCH 5TH, UH, TEST.
THEY WERE INVOLVED HERE? NO, UH, MR. MULLEN INDICAT, THEY WERE INVOLVED, UH, BACK IN THE OH, BACK WHEN THEY OK.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUST ONE.
WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANYTHING THERE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THERE'S A THREE FOOT HIGH, UH, ASPHALT MILLING PILE THAT WILL BE REMOVED AND THERE WERE SEVERAL TIRES THAT WERE DISCOVERED.
THEY WILL BE REMOVED IF THEY DISCOVER ANY ADDITIONAL MATERIAL DURING THE INSTALLATION OF UTILITIES, UM, THAT WOULD BE REMOVED ALSO.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE WHAT'S WHAT YOU FIND THERE? CORRECT.
THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 15 GRANTING PRELIMINARY LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR 3 95 GREENWOOD AVENUE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION.
2021 DASH 15 GRANNY PRELIMINARY LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR STERLY TRACT AT 3 95 GREENWOOD AVENUE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THAT CARRIES.
CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 24 GRANTING APPROVAL OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION AT 1 45 HOPWOOD ROAD.
UM, IT SAYS, MR. PRESENT, MR. GRACE OR WHOEVER JEFF IS, MR. CLEMENT SHOULD BE ON.
UH, THIS IS 1 45, UH, HOBB ROAD.
THERE IS AN EXISTING, OR WAS AN EXISTING HOME ON WHAT WE REFER TO AS LOT ONE.
IT WAS, UH, AN ABANDONED RANCH STYLE HOME.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION ON, UM, THE FIRST RESIDENTIAL UNIT I HAVE WITH ME ON THE LINE HERE.
UH, JOE VENETIA AND JOE DELUCA, AS WELL AS THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT, MIKE SOTO.
UH, BUT IN SHORT, IT'S ABOUT A THREE ACRE TRACT.
UM, WE'RE SIMPLY DIVIDING IT INTO TWO LOTS.
UH, WE HAVE REVIEW LETTERS FROM ALL OF THE CONSULTANTS, UH, AND WE ARE FOR, IN, IN, IN LARGE PART WILL COMPLY WITH ALL THOSE REVIEW LETTERS.
UH, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS OF SANITARY SEWER WITH MR. DINGMAN, AND I'M SURE WE WILL BE ABLE TO SATISFY HIM.
IN FACT, UM, WE ARE FINE WITH THAT BEING A CONDITION OF OUR APPROVAL.
UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR SIX WAIVERS.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WAIVERS, UH, RELATE TO THE HOPWOOD ROAD, WIDENING, CURBING AND SIDEWALK.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT COMING THROUGH AND THAT THERE WILL BE LIKELY A RELOCATION OF OF HOPWOOD ROAD.
UM, SO WE'RE ASKING FOR WAIVERS OF OF THOSE THINGS.
THE ONLY OTHER TWO WAIVERS WE HAVE ARE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO REQUIREMENTS FOR SHOWING EXISTING FEATURES WITHIN 100 FEET.
UM, INSTEAD OF A PLAN, WE'D LIKE TO SHOW OR PROVIDE AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.
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THE, UH, EXISTING TREE SPECIES ON THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY IS FAIRLY HEAVILY WOODED IN THE REAR WHERE IT FALLS OFF.UM, AND WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO IDENTIFY EVERY, UM, TREE SPECIES THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY.
THEY WILL BE PRESERVED TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.
SO WE ARE SEEKING, UH, PRELIMINARY AND FINAL APPROVAL FROM YOU THIS EVENING.
UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE, HOUSE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING SEEMS TO BE, UM, IN STEEP SLOPES.
AM I LOOKING AT THEM CORRECTLY? NO, SIR.
WE'RE NOT IN STEEP SLOPES AT ALL.
THERE ARE STEEP SLOPES ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THE HOUSE, THE BUILDING ENVELOPES FOR THE HOMES ARE, ARE NOT IN STEEP SLOPES.
AM I NOT READING THAT BILL? WHAT? THE HOME ITSELF IS NOT IN ANY STEEP SLOPES.
THE HOME IS NOT IN ANY STEEP SLOPES.
I PUT THOSE, THE NARROW THE LINES ARE STEEPER TO SLOPES.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE NO QUESTION ON THE, UH, ROAD REALIGNMENT OF HOPWOOD.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE STILL THINK IS GOING TO OCCUR? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, UH, THE EQUITABLE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY IS STILL VERY MUCH, UM, IN THE MODE OF DOING THAT.
THEY PUT IT TO THE BACKGROUND.
THEY'RE DOING THE PART WHERE THE 1 72, UM, UR KEYS ROAD, I'M SORRY, 1 72 COLLEGE ROAD, THE ONE AT QUES AND COLLEGE ROAD, THEY'RE DOING THAT FIRST AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK WITH THE OTHER ONE, IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
PROCESS, BUT IT'S STILL HAPPENING.
AND WHY SHOULD THERE BE A WAIVER ON THE SIDEWALK? BECAUSE THE ROAD'S MOVING.
IT'S, IT'S A TECHNICAL WAIVER.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
IT'S JUST, THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE THIS APPLICANT INSTALL THEM FOR THEM TO BE RIPPED UP IN SIX MONTHS FOR A YEAR.
YEAH, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS NOW EITHER, SO, RIGHT.
EVENTUALLY WE'LL BE RUNNING THE TRAIL ALL THE WAY DOWN, RIGHT? CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NOPE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 24, GRANTING APPROVAL OF MINUS MINOR SUBDIVISION AT 1 45 HOT WOOD ROAD.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
NUMBER 15, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 25 GRANTING TENTATIVE LAND APPROVAL FOR THE TOLL BROTHERS.
FULLY TRACKED AT 3 0 1 WRITTEN HOUSE ROAD.
I BELIEVE, UH, ALLISON'S STILL HERE AND, UH, IS CAN SPEAK TO THIS ONE.
THIS IS, UH, YOUR FIRST LEVEL, YOUR TENTATIVE SKETCH APPROVAL.
UH, THIS IS A PROJECT WHERE THE APPLICANT HAD BROUGHT SEVERAL, UH, ITERATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
AND SO, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS COME IN WITH A BY RIGHT PLAN THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE, UM, ANY PARTICULAR UNUSUAL RELIEF OR ANY SPECIAL BLESSINGS.
THEY'VE BROUGHT ONE IN THAT THEY REPRESENT THEY CAN HAVE UNDER THE CURRENT, UM, ORDINANCE.
AND YOU'RE ONLY AT THE TENTATIVE SKETCH, SO NOTHING'S BEEN ENGINEERED, NO DETAILS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT IF ALISON WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT, I WOULD ASK JEFF TO.
SO BILL, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO AN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE MIGHT HAVE ON THIS.
ALISON, DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD? WE'RE HERE.
I ALSO HAVE BRIAN THEK WITH TOLL FROM TOLL BROTHERS WITH ME.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE PLAN, IF YOU WANNA PULL THAT UP.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, BOTH SIDES OF RITTENHOUSE ROAD.
UM, AND WE WERE HERE ONCE BEFORE SHOWING YOU A PROPOSED, UM, PLAN THAT WOULD'VE REQUIRED ZONING, A ZONING CHANGE IN ORDER TO OCCUR.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED R ONE, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 36 GROSS ACRES.
AND, UH, WE HAD ALSO APPEARED AS MR. BRESIN INDICATED IN BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF PLANS THAT WOULD'VE REQUIRED A REZONING.
UM, AT THIS POINT, UH, TOLL IS STILL INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD WITH DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY, AND SO WE HAVE FILED THE SPY RIGHT TENTATIVE SKETCH PLAN.
UH, THIS WOULD, THE, UH, R ONE ZONING REQUIRES, UH, ONE ACRE LOT SIZES.
SO THIS WOULD SUBDIVIDE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY INTO 24 LOTS OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS, UM, ON WHAT I'LL CALL THE NORTHEAST SIDE VALLEY VIEW DRIVE IS AT THE TOP
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OF THIS PLAN.AND THEN ON THE SOUTHWESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THERE ARE 10 LOTS PROPOSED ON A CUL-DE-SAC.
UH, THERE'S ALSO AN EMERGENCY ACCESS PROPOSED, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAT WOULD CONNECT, UM, ES ESSENTIALLY WOULD ALLOW CONNECTION FOR THE TOWNSHIP'S EXISTING TRAIL SYSTEM ACROSS THE PROPERTY THROUGH THAT CUL-DE-SAC ROAD, UM, AND OUT TO, UM, OTHER TOWNSHIP LANDS.
UH, WE APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, MOST OF THE COMMENTS ARE WILL COMPLY IN THE LETTERS.
UH, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT COMBINING AS MANY DRIVEWAYS ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE AS WE COULD FOR SHARED DRIVEWAY ACCESS, WHICH, UH, TOLL WILL DO AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN STAGE WHEN THIS HAS BEEN FULLY ENGINEERED.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WILL NOTE IS THAT YOU WILL SEE, UM, SOME AREAS OF STEEP SLOPE THROUGH THIS PROPERTY.
AND WHEN, UH, FULL, FULL TOPO AND ENGINEERING OCCURS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONFIRM, UM, IN GREATER DETAIL.
OBVIOUSLY WE ACKNOWLEDGE OUR NATURAL AND WOULD REQUIRE SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVAL TO DISTURB.
THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE MANMADE AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD AGAIN, ADDRESS AT PRELIMINARY PLAN.
UM, SO WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAN.
YEAH, I W I WAS AT THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ALLIANCE, UH, WEEKEND AND HEARD THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.
I, I WANNA ECHO ALL OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FROM OUR CONSULTANTS, UH, AREAS OF CONCERN AND NOT SHOWING OF OPEN SPACE, THEY'RE NOT COMPLETING A TRAIL CONNECTIONS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN KIND OF A ROLLERCOASTER RIDE WITH THIS PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, WE STARTED OUT, UM, WITH A REQUEST FOR 86 UNITS, UH, MIXING, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH TOWN HOMES.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WE JUMPED UP TO 93 UNITS, AND NOW WE'RE AT A BUY RIGHT PLAN OF 24 UNITS.
UM, I, I JUST, THE ENGINEERING ON THIS, I, I, I THINK THIS BOARD AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT THAT IS ZONED AS MOVING TO R TWO.
IF YOU WOULD COME BACK WITH A REASONABLY ENGINEERED PLANE AND YOU KEPT IT WITHIN IN, UH, IN BOUNDS AS FAR AS, UH, ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND SOMEWHERE IN THE FOR ISH HOUSE RANGE, YOU KNOW, DUMPING ALL OF THESE DRIVEWAYS OUT ON RITTENHOUSE.
I MEAN, THAT'S A MAIN FEEDER ROAD FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
IT LEADS RIGHT UP THE TOWNSHIP LINE, ONE OF THE FEW INTERSECTIONS ON THAT ROAD WHERE YOU CAN ENTER THE ROADWAY.
AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, I ECHO ALL THE COMMENTS AND, AND LIKE MATT SAID ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I I JUST KIND OF FEEL LIKE YOU DIDN'T FULLY EXPLORE OUR ORDINANCE AND WHAT COULD BE DONE.
UM, I I, THE DENSITY WAS TOO HIGH ON THE FIRST TWO PLANS.
I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS MADE CLEAR BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
PERHAPS NOT, BUT, UH, SO I, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU GO BACK AND RE-ENGINEER THIS.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON, ON THE ZONING TO MOVE TO R TWO, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE REASONABLE, YOU KNOW, A AS YOUR OWN PRESENTATION, THE BEGINNING SAID YOU FALL OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARY TO BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO A 4 22 INTERSECTION TO GIVE FULL RELIEF HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, EVERY, EVERY HOUSING UNIT YOU PUT THERE ADDS TWO CARS OF TRAFFIC TO RITTENHOUSE ROAD EVERY MORNING.
SO, UH, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT? SURE.
SO, UM, BRIAN, AND FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN HERE IF YOU'D LIKE.
UM, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THE TOWNSHIP HERE ON SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE FOR EVERYONE.
UM, SO WE, WE HAD BEEN PROCEEDING WITH, UH, THE BUY RIGHT PLAN BASED ON THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S INTERESTED IN FIGURING THIS OUT, BUT BRIAN, IF YOU WANNA JUST JUMP IN AND GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS FROM SPECTIVE ON THIS.
BRIAN HERE FROM TOLL BROTHERS.
AS ALISON JUST KIND OF POINTED OUT, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, WE'RE AT A POINT WITH THE LANCER, MR. FOLEY, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA GET SOME PROGRESS ON THIS, UM, AND TRY TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF TRYING TO WORK WITH US AND, AND WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO ENGAGE WITH SOME OF THE TOWNSHIP STAFF TO WORK THROUGH KIND OF A PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, BOTH THE TOWNSHIP AND PO BROTHERS, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD WORK FOR, LOOK FORWARD TO AND, AND MOVE FORWARD ON.
SO, UM, ABSOLUTELY WE CAN GET TO WORK ON THAT.
YEAH, AND I WOULD SAY IF THE BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, IS, IS NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAN TONIGHT, WE ARE OKAY WITH TABLING THAT.
IF YOU'D LIKE US TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT BREATHER AND EXPLORE
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THE OTHER OPTION THAT YOU'VE SUGGESTED.I, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I, I, I THINK WE COULD GO BACK.
YOU GUYS HAVE BUILT SOME GOOD LOOKING NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS TOWNSHIP AND ANY OF THEM, AND, UH, I, I THINK YOU WANNA DO ANOTHER ONE.
THE TWO AREAS OF OF CONCERN FOR ME ARE, LIKE I SAID, I ECHO EVERYTHING THAT THE PLAN COMMISSION SAID, BUT I WANT YOU TO SHOW US ACTUAL OPEN SPACE.
WE DON'T WANNA TAKE THE FEE IN LIEU OF HERE BECAUSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BUTTS IT RIGHT UP AGAINST OUR HESS PRESERVE.
AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT COULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE THERE AT THE VERY TOP OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT THE, UH, HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS AND THE HESS PRESERVE WITH THE TRAIL SOMEDAY.
AND THEN I ALSO WANNA SEE ALL THE OTHER TRAIL CONNECTIONS MADE, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD TABLE IT FOR TONIGHT.
AND, UH, I'M, I'M SURE THE TOWNSHIP STAFF, THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT OUR FEELINGS ARE ON THIS, AND, UH, THEY CAN LEAD YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME SOUND OFF.
IF I'M FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, WE HAVE, I THINK UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF JUNE FOR THE MPC CLOCK.
SO I'LL EITHER HAVE TO GET AN EXTENSION FROM ALISON AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD'VE A PROBLEM WITH, OR WE WILL RUSH SOMETHING BACK NEXT MONTH.
CONSIDER AUTHORIZING ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS FOR ROAD PAVING PROJECT B.
UM, WE, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THE, THESE WERE REMOVED FROM OUR CAPITAL BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAD UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT OUR REVENUES WERE GONNA BE, UH, WITH THE COVID, UH, EMERGENCY CONTINUING.
BUT WE FEEL NOW THAT, THAT OUR REVENUES ARE GONNA REMAIN STEADY ENOUGH THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT THESE, UH, PUT THESE AFTER BID.
IS THAT THAT'S RIGHT, MR. DERMAN? YEAH.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A BID, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UM, TO, UH, AUTHORIZE ADVERTISEMENT OF BIDS FOR ROAD PAVING PROJECT B.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE ADVERTISEMENT OF BIDS FOR ROAD PAVING PROJECT B.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND WITH ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
ITEM 17, CONSIDER AUTHOR ADVERTISEMENT OF A REQUEST FOR PRO PROPOSAL FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP LIBRARY.
UM, THE BOARD APPROVED AND FORMALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RFP PROCESS IN ITS MARCH 29TH.
SPECIAL MEETING, BUT DELAYED OFFICIAL ACTION UNTIL TONIGHT'S MEETING PROPOSED MOTION TO AUTHORIZE ADVERTISEMENT OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN SERVICE FOR THE U P T LIBRARY.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS JUST THE RENDERING, JUST THE PICTURE AND THE ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING? OR IS IT, THIS'LL EVENTUALLY GET US TO THE SCHEMA TO TRY TO GET US INTO THE SCHEMATIC, UH, SCHEMATIC, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST DIPPING OUR THAT'S CORRECT.
WE WANNA GET OUR ARCHITECT O ON BOARD.
AND UP HERE, UH, MISS, UH, I'VE BEEN, UH, IN THE INTERIM SINCE OUR LAST WORKSHOP, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR, UH, CONSULTANTS, AND THIS IS OUR WORKING TIMELINE RIGHT NOW.
WE DO HAVE A, UM, UH, PRE-PROPOSAL MEETING WITH SOME PRE-QUALIFIED ARCHITECTS, UH, THIS WEDNESDAY.
AND, UH, THEN, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY HAVING, UH, AN ARCHITECT ON BOARD THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE HAPPY WITH, PROBABLY BY THE MID TO LATE JUNE.
AND WE STILL HAVE TO, UH, DECIDE SITE SELECTION.
THERE HAS BEEN NO DEFINITE SITE SELECTION IN THIS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE AS WE'RE SIMILAR TO THE FIREHOUSE PROJECT, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO POSSIBLE, UH, SCENARIOS.
SO THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY OF THOSE.
SO THE, THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE SHORTLIST FIRMS, I KNOW WE SAW TWO BEFORE.
DOES THE COMPANY, UM, THEN DO THEY JUST CAST A WIDER NET AND THEY DECIDE ON THE OTHER ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS TO BE IN THIS SHORTLIST? UM, WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE YOU COULD, I THINK IF CHRIS WAS HERE, WE, WE COULD EASILY GET A HUNDRED ARCHITECTS ON THIS.
WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS, UM, LOOK OUT AT THE ONES, YOU KNOW, O OBVIOUSLY GENSLER AND CLEAR SCAPES, UM, G K O, AND WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER TOWNS THAT HAVE DONE, UH, LIBRARIES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET DOWN TO A QUALIFIED, UM, QUALIFIED DOZEN THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
AND THERE MAY BE SOME MORE THAT COME ALONG WHILE WE CAN EDIT IT TO THE, ADD TO THE MIX.
JUST TO CLARIFY, DAN, YOU SAID A QUALIFIED DOZEN, QUALIFIED 10.
JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT SAID THANK BAKERS
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DOZEN.ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR, UH, DISCUSSION? NO, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MOVE THAT THE BOARD, UM, AUTHORIZED, YEAH, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE WORDING.
UM, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING ADVERTISEMENT OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN SERVICES SERVICES FOR THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP LIBRARY.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AUTHORIZE ADVERTISEMENT OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP LIBRARY.
CONSIDER AUTHORIZING A PAYMENT TO THE BOROUGH OF PHOENIXVILLE IN THE AMOUNT OF 28 692 FOR THE PHOENIXVILLE CONNECTOR TRAIL PROJECT.
I THOUGHT WE PAID THEM LAST MEETING.
WE DECIDED NOT TO MAKE ANY MOTION AT A SPECIAL MEETING.
WE DELAYED OFFICIAL ACTION UNTIL TONIGHT, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, IT'S, IT REPRESENTS ABOUT 1.5% OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
AND THAT THE, THAT'S THAT PROJECT WHERE THEY DID THE WALKWAY ACROSS THE BRIDGE DOWN THERE.
THEY PUT IN THE, THE NICE SIGNAGE TO BRING FOLKS OVER TO THE TRAIL.
IT'S A, I I, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD PREFER THEY ASK US UP FRONT BEFORE THEY SPEND OUR MONEY, BUT IT'S, IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO HAVE GOOD RELATIONS WITH THE LARGEST BOROUGH ON OUR BORDER.
UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION AUTHORIZING A PAYMENT TO THE BURROW PHOENIX FILM, THE AMOUNT OF $28,692 FOR THE PHOENIX BILL CONNECTOR TRAIL PROJECT.
I'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT THE LAST TIME.
UM, IT'S SUCH A NICE SIGN COMING INTO UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP THAT WE SHOULD LOOK IN INTO DOING THAT IN OTHER AVENUES THAT ENTERED A TOWNSHIP, UH, SOMETHING SIMILAR AND CREATIVE.
UM, I'D LIKE THE STAFF TO LOOK INTO THAT, IF THEY WOULD PLEASE.
WE HAVE BEEN ON A VERY BASIC LEVEL AT THIS POINT, BUT BRIAN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING SOMETHING FORWARD.
THERE WILL BE ONE INCORPORATED INTO THE WALNUT JACOB ALIGNMENT PROJECT.
THERE'S A, UH, SEMI-CIRCULAR SHAPED SIGN THAT WILL BE INSTALLED AT THE CORNER.
THEY'RE GONNA PUT A NEW SIGN IN WHEN THEY DO THE JACOB REALIGNED PROJECT.
UH, ITEM 19, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 26 ADOPTING THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP PARK MASTER PLAN.
UH, WE HAD THAT PRESENTED TO US IN OUR LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT, EVEN AFTER WE ADOPT THIS, YOU KNOW, IT STILL REMAINS FLUID AS, AS THE TOWNSHIP NEEDS CHANGE, AS YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY, WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO, AND THE PARKS CHANGE.
BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD BASE TO START FROM, TO GIVE US SOME DOLLAR FIGURES AROUND WHAT IT TAKES TO RENOVATE EACH OF THESE PARKS, OR TO DEVELOP IN SOME CASES.
SO, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD PLAN OVERALL.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 26 TO APPROVE THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP MASTER PLAN.
I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2021 DASH 26 ADOPTING THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP PARK MASTER PLAN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
NOW WE'RE DOWN TO MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS.
I THINK WE GOT SUE HOPPING ON.
CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY? YEP.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING.
UM, AS INTRODUCED IN OUR PARK MASTER PLAN, THE BLACKROCK CAMPUS IS A HIGH PRIORITY CURRENTLY, UM, IN TERMS OF OUR PLAY STRUCTURES AND THE REPLACEMENT OF, UM, OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO, UM, I KNOW THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN OUR LAST MEETING, OUR WORKSHOP REGARDING THE PARK MASTER PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING OVER BY THE DOUBLE-SIDED PAVILION, WHAT WE CONSIDER BLACKROCK EAST.
AND I AM HOPING TONIGHT WE CAN COME TO A CONCLUSION ON, UM,
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THE REPLACEMENT OF THE TWO PARKS.WHAT'S COME TO MY ATTENTION IS, AND I'M SURE ALL OF YOU'RE AWARE, AS MANUFACTURING PRICES ARE INCREASING AT THE MOMENT, AND THE POUR AND PLAY SURFACING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT INTO THIS SPECIFIC PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO INCREASE, UM, ABOUT 30% OVER THE SUMMER.
AND THE THOUGHT WAS, IF WE COULD DO THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR THIS YEAR, UM, WE COULD DO THIS IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS AND HAVE THIS COMPLETELY READY AND READY TO GO IN THE FALL.
UM, IF WE DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, UM, THE PRICE OF THE PO AND PLAY AND THE INCREASE WILL TAKE OUT SOME OF THESE AMAZING AND INCLUSIVE FEATURES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PRESENTING.
AND IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST SO, UM, THANK YOU.
SO, UM, JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE OF WHAT WE MEAN BY INCLUSIVE, UM, IT'S ACCESS.
IT'S SO THAT EVERY CHILD OR PARENT CAN ACCESS THE SPACE REGARDLESS OF THEIR ABILITY.
IS THE PLAYGROUND ENGAGING, CONSIDERING THE FACTORS SUCH AS COLOR, COLOR OF THE SOUND, THE TEXTURE, THE MOVEMENT, AND THE VERSATILITY OF THE PLAYGROUND AND COMFORT? AND I THINK THIS IS A, IS A GOOD TOPIC, IS DOES THE PLAY SPACE HAVE A GOOD MIX OF ACTIVE AND QUIET PLAY AREAS? WHEN WE MET WITH OUR LANDSCAPE STRUCTURES, UM, DESIGNER, HE INCLUDED ALL OF THESE INTO THIS NEW PLAY SPACE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE AT ANY OF OUR CURRENT PLAYGROUNDS.
SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A REALLY NICE ADDED, UM, BONUS TO OUR TOWNSHIP.
AND IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THE BENEFITS OF INCLUSIVE PLAY, THE PLAYGROUND THAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW AT EVERY ANGLE OF THE PLAYGROUND, THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY TO DO AT EVERY AGE, EVERY ABILITY, AND EVERY DEMOGRAPHIC.
THIS CURRENT PLAYGROUND ALSO IS MULTI-GENERATIONAL.
WE HAVE A NINJA COURSE ON THE ONE SIDE THAT IS FOR THE TEENS AND ADULTS, AS WELL AS AN ACTIVE FITNESS AREA.
THAT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY OF ALL AGES.
UM, IF YOU CAN CLICK PLEASE, JEFF, THAT TOP VIDEO, THIS WOULD JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE STRUCTURE THAT WE ARE, UM, PROPOSING DOESN'T NECESSARILY SCREAM IN SUPERFLEX IS A REALLY NEAT CREATION BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING, IT'S A BIG TALL TOWER, AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SCREAM INCLUSIVE, BUT THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF REALLY INCLUSIVE ELEMENTS THAT MAKE IT A LOT FRIENDLIER FOR EVERYBODY TO COME AND PLAY AND USE AND GET THAT SENSATION OF BEING UP HIGH, WHICH IS REALLY NEAT BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT ADDRESSES SOMETHING THAT'S CHALLENGING TO ACHIEVE ON THE PLAYGROUND.
UH, WHEN KIDS WANNA GET OUT OF THEIR CHAIRS AND GET THAT SENSE OF CHALLENGE AND HEIGHT AND GET THAT IDEA OF CLIMBING, UM, THERE'S VERY FEW THINGS THAT OFFER THAT ON THE PLAY SPACE.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS ME TO GET OUT OF MY CHAIR, TO CLIMB TO THE TOP, GET THAT REALLY TALL SENSATION, AND THEN GO DOWN THE SLIDE.
THIS SPIRAL BELTING IS REALLY COOL BECAUSE I CAN GET TO THE TOP WHETHER I'M CRAWLING AND GOING FORWARDS OR SCOOTING BACKWARDS.
UH, THERE'S AN ACCESSIBLE ROUTE TO GET TO THE TOP WHERE WE HAVE THESE COZY SPACES WHERE I CAN KIND OF SIT BACK AND CHILL, OR I HAVE ALL KINDS OF CHALLENGING ROUTES TO MOVE AROUND THIS THING.
IT'S A LOT OF REALLY SUBTLE THINGS THAT MAKE THIS SO MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.
IT'S HAVING THESE PLATES IN THE SPIRAL BELTING THAT KIND OF GIVE ME THIS GREAT POINT TO PERCH AND TO SIT AND TAKE A BREATHER IN THE MIDDLE OF CLIMBING THIS THING SO I CAN GET SOME REST AND THEN TACKLE IT AGAIN WHEN I WANT TO FOR THE FIRST TIME.
WE HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE ROUTE ENTIRELY TO CRAWL UP TO, TO GET TO THE HIGHEST POINT ON THIS TOWER.
AND I GET TO GO DOWN THE BIG SLIDE, WHICH YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO OFTEN DO.
AND SO THIS IS A REALLY COOL APPROACH TO CHALLENGE PLAY.
SO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT WAS ACTUALLY JILL MOORE, WHO IS LANDSCAPE STRUCTURE'S INCLUSIVE PLAY SPECIALIST.
SO SHE HELPS TO CREATE, UM, SOME OF THESE AMAZING PLAYGROUNDS.
UM, AND SHE, SHE KNOWS A THING OR TWO OF HOW TO MAKE THEM INCLUSIVE.
UM, IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND HIT THE NEXT, UM, VIDEO FOR ME, PLEASE, JEFF.
AFTER AN ASTEROID STRUCK MY YOGA STUDIO, THIS DEPEND HELPED ME PIVOT TO HOT YOGA, WHICH DOUBLED MY CUSTOMER BASE.
AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN ZOOM IT.
UM, YOU CAN FAST FORWARD, LIKE PUT IT FORWARD A LITTLE BIT IF YOU WANT.
BUT WHAT THIS VIDEO IS BASICALLY SHOWING YOU IS ONE OF THESE NEW SWINGS THAT LANDSCAPE STRUCTURES HAS CREATED.
WE WOULD BE ONE OF THE ONLY TOWNSHIPS, UM, ALMOST IN THE STATE THAT HAVE THIS PARTICULAR SWING.
YOU CAN HAVE THOSE WHO ARE HANDICAPPED AS WELL AS THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO USE THE SWING TOGETHER.
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YOU MOVE THIS VIDEO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT, JEFF, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHEN THE TESTIMONIALS FROM THE CHILDREN THAT ACTUALLY USE IT.IF YOU CAN GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, KEEP GOING.
I AM FIVE YEARS OLD AND I THINK THIS IS AMAZING.
CAUSE ANY WHEELCHAIR PERSON CAN GO ON IT, AND ANY PERSON THAT EVEN DOESN'T HAVE A WHEELCHAIR CAN GO ON IT.
AND, AND WE CAN ALL PLAY TOGETHER.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM HOPING, UM, THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND, UM, SPECIFICS OR, UM, WHAT'S UP IN THE BACKGROUND.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, SO HOPEFULLY, UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND OR ITS INCLUSIVENESS OR, UM, THE ADA COMPLIANCE THAT WILL COME ALONG WITH THIS.
UM, WE THINK THIS CAN BE A REALLY GREAT IDEA.
THIS TAKES AWAY FROM, WE'VE ALSO GOT STANDING AREAS.
DO WE CONSIDER MY HEARTSTRINGS FULLY PLUCKED? OKAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THOSE VIDEOS, THEY JUST HELP PUT EVERYTHING IN PERSPECTIVE.
WERE NOT, UM, TRYING TO DO THIS IN ANY WAY OTHER THAN TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PLAYGROUND OR, UM, HOW WE DESIGNED IT OR ANY SPECIAL COMPONENT REGARDING THE PLAYGROUND, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DID YOU EXPLAIN THAT THIS WOULD REPLACE SOME OF THE EXISTING YES, IN THE, IN THE LAST WORKSHOP, THIS WAS OUR IDEA TO TAKE THE TWO PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY NEEDING REPLACEMENT.
UM, AND JUST IN REGARDS TO THAT, SOME OF THE ADA COMPLIANCE IN OUR PLAYGROUNDS CURRENTLY IS THE RUBBER, UM, THAT IS CODING THE RAMP WAYS AND THE TRANSITION PLATFORMS. THOSE ARE STARTING TO PEEL BACK.
SO IT IS GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYGROUNDS A LITTLE UNSAFE, UM, A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THOSE WITH DISABILITIES USING THEM.
UM, AND THIS, SO WE CONSIDER BLACK ROCK WEST OVER BY THE GAZEBO.
WE CONSIDER BLACK ROCK EAST OVER BY THE DOUBLE-SIDED PAVILION.
AND THIS PARK WOULD, UM, KIND OF REPLACE THOSE TWO PARKS AND MAKE ONE BIG PLAYGROUND WHERE IT'S INCLUSIVE FOR EVERYBODY.
JEFF, DO YOU HAVE A SITE LAYOUT? OKAY, SUE, DID YOU SAY THE PRICES WERE GOING UP 30%? SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? I CAN GET ACCURATE NUMBERS FROM OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, BUT HE BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION WHILE WE WERE ON A SITE TOUR, AND HE WAS SAYING HOW QUICKLY THE CHEMICAL BONDING AGENT, THAT PRO THAT BONDS THE, UM, PORN AND PLAY SURFACING, THAT CHEMICAL AGENT IS GETTING VERY HARD TO COME BY.
IT'S IN THE PORN AND PLAY, IT'S IN ANY MONDO FLOORING AND FITNESS CENTERS.
UM, THAT IS GOING TO GO ON THE RISE SOON.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT.
IF WE COULD, DO YOU HAVE A, LIKE A ROUGH DATE AS TO WHEN THOSE PRICES ARE GOING UP? I CAN GET THE EXACT DATE FOR YOU.
IT'S PO IT'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO HIT SOMETIME IN THE SUMMER.
SO WHERE IS THE PAVILION STAY INTACT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THERE WILL BE A FENCE AROUND THIS WHOLE ENTIRE SHAPE.
I KNOW THIS IS A VERY AWKWARD SHAPE, BUT IF YOU GUYS EVER WALK OUT TO THE DOUBLE SIDE PAVILION, IT IS ALMOST LIKE AN AWKWARD TRIANGLE.
UM, AND WHERE THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND IS NOW BY THE DOUBLE-SIDED PAVILION, THAT WILL TURN INTO A VOLLEYBALL, UM, AREA THAT WE SPECIFICALLY USE FOR HOST SUMMER CAMPS.
DO WE NOW I NOW I NOW I HAVE TO BE MR. SCROOGE
DO WE, DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A PRICE TAG ON THIS? ANY KIND OF ESTIMATE? OF COURSE, OF COURSE.
UM, RIGHT NOW, WITH THE TWO PARKS COMBINED, WE WERE GOING TO BE HEADED INTO THE $750,000 RANGE TO REDO BOTH PLAYGROUNDS.
THIS PLAYGROUND'S ALL INCLUSIVE WITH THE MULTI-GENERATIONAL ASPECTS TO IT WOULD BE ROUGHLY 699,000.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, OBVIOUSLY THIS WASN'T AN ACTION ITEM, BUT WE WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION YEP.
TO THE, UM, PRICING MECHANISM, RIGHT? NO, I, I'M GLAD YOU DID.
AND, UH, SO WE CAN, UH, WE CAN JUST WAIT, WE CAN DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT TONIGHT, OF COURSE.
WOULD IT COME OUT OF THE OPEN? HOW WOULD IT
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COME OUT OF THE PARK AND REC FARM? I ASKED, I, I ASKED, UM, SUE, AS YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ONE THAT LIKES TO JUST DUMP CASH INTO PROJECTS THAT HAVE A 15 OR 20 YEAR LIFE CYCLE.SO THERE COULD BE A, THERE COULD BE A REASONABLE, UH, PAYBACK ON THIS.
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS, OF COURSE.
AND WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR AMAZING PUBLIC WORKS CREW, THEY'VE BEEN KEPT UP THE TWO PLAYROOMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS EIGHT TO 10 YEARS.
AND OUR TWO PLAYGROUNDS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HITTING, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE DECADE AT THIS POINT.
SO THE PLAYGROUND, THIS NEW PLAYGROUND SHOULD LAST WELL OVER 20.
SO DO YOU HAVE A LAYOUT SHOWING WHERE IT SAID JASON TO THE SKATE PARK? I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD ONE OF THOSE, OR IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE, THE REFERENCE POINT OF WHERE THAT IS TO THE SKATE PARK.
SO THE SKATE PARK, ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE PAGE, UM, OVER WHERE THE TREES ARE RIGHT NEXT TO, UM, I KNOW I CAN'T SHARE MY SCREEN, BUT ON THE BACK END OF THAT NINJA WARRIOR COURSE IS WHERE THE EXISTING WALKING TRAIL IS.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT WALKING TRAIL IS THE SKATE PARK.
WE CAN SUE, HOW OLD ARE THE CURRENT PARKS? TWO, THE EAST AND WEST.
THIS IS NOT THE PARK WITH THE ZIP LINES, RIGHT? YES, IT IS.
THIS WAS ABLE TO CAPTURE EVERYTHING.
UM, THE PLAYGROUND IS SO BIG THAT I COULDN'T GET ANOTHER SHOT WITHOUT EXCLUDING A PIECE.
SO THE ZIP LINE IS ACTUALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THE NINJA WARRIOR COURSE, RIGHT BEHIND THAT TALL TOWER.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF GRANTS OR ANYTHING FROM SOMEWHERE? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IN A POUR IN PLACE SURFACING VERSUS THE MULCH, UM, WE DO HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF GETTING A GRANT.
ALL RIGHT, TIM, CAN YOU WORK WITH SUE AND YES.
JUST PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR SCREEN? YES, PLEASE.
I HAVE NOTHING ELSE UNDER MANAGERS UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS QUESTIONS.
JUST REAL QUICK, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE SANITARY SEWER PROJECT.
THE CONTRACTOR IS BACK WORKING ON THE LATERALS IN SPRING MILL, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE OVER TO PLEASANT LANE ON THAT PROJECT.
AND PERMITS ARE STILL IN PROCESS FOR THE TINDI RUN PROJECT.
SO ON THE SCREEN, UH, I'D LIKE TO FORMALLY SAY THE INTERSECTION OF LINFIELD TRAP ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD IS COMPLETE.
JUST A LITTLE SUMMARY ON THE INTERSECTION.
UH, THE POOL FOUR PICTURE ON YOUR LEFT, UH, THAT IS LINFIELD TRAP ROAD FROM THE TOWNSHIP LOGO GOING NORTH AND SOUTH ON THIS, ON THIS PAGE, UM, TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD IS THE OTHER ROAD.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE PROJECT DID IS, UH, WE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE TOWNSHIPS ACT 2 0 9, UH, IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED FOR THIS INTERSECTION.
IT WAS IMPLEMENTED, THE GRANT DEVELOPER AND, UH, GENERAL FUNDS.
IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THIS TOWNSHIP, PENDOT AND LIMERICK TOWNSHIP.
WE ESSENTIALLY THEN INSTALLED LEFT TURN LANES THAT DIDN'T EXIST ON LINFIELD TRAP ROAD.
UH, OR I'M SORRY, ON, YES, ON, UH, LINFIELD TRAP ROAD, UM, AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD, AS WELL AS FULLY MODERNIZING THE INTERSECTION.
IT WAS A STR UH, IT WAS A, UH, STRAIN POLE SIGNALED INTERSECTION OUT THERE.
UM, ALONG WITH THAT, WE FULLY RESURFACED THE INTERSECTION.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THIS ON THE RIGHT SIDE PICTURE, UH, FRESH PAVEMENT MARKINGS.
WE ADDED ALL KINDS OF ADA FACILITIES, CONNECTED SIDEWALK, ET CETERA.
UH, IMPROVED THE, UH, RADI INTERSECTION, MOVED UTILITY POLES, ADDED SOME LIGHTING THERE.
SO, UH, WITH ALL THAT SAID, I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FUNCTIONING INTERSECTION AND HAVEN'T HEARD, TO THE CONTRARY, PENDOT IS, UH, DUE TO COME BACK THIS WEEK TO DO THEIR FINAL SIGN OFF.
THERE WAS A PUNCH LIST OF ITEMS THAT THE CONTRACTOR'S BEEN WORKING ON.
SO PENDOT WILL BE BACK AND THE PROJECT WILL BE HOPEFULLY OFFICIALLY CLOSED OUT BY THIS TIME NEXT WEEK.
YEAH, I, I TRAVEL THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK, AND JUST HAVING THE STOP LINES PAINTED IN THE CORRECT PLACE HAS MADE IT A LITTLE LESS FRANTIC THERE,
NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A GOOD JOB.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS DONE QUICKLY.
I LIKED THAT CONTRACTOR GOT IN THERE, THEY GOT IT DONE QUICKLY AND GOT OUT.
THAT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD, YOU SHOULD HAVE NEVER HOW TO DO THIS.
LIMERICK, LIMERICK FAILED AGAIN.
I GO TO THE Y CASEY, AND I LOVE BEING ABLE TO COME OUT AND GO STRAIGHT.
BECAUSE BEFORE YOU HAD TO GET BEHIND THE PEOPLE MAKING A LEFT.
AND JUST, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT JOB.
WELL, I'M GLAD IT'S OPERATING WELL AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH
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YOU ON IT, SO THANK YOU.YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, WE SENT, UH, THE TOWNSHIP A BUNCH OF PICTURES, UH, THAT WE TOOK, UH, VIA DRONE.
SO YOU HAVE THOSE THAT YOU CAN SHOWCASE HOWEVER YOU WANT.
SEND 'EM TO LIMERICK SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT WE DO.
I THINK, I THINK BRIAN DID SEND THEM.
JOHN, NORMALLY YOU'RE KICKING IN ON THIS, JOHN.
NO, NO, IT'S NEIGHBORLY NIGHT, ALEX.
ITEM 22, MS FOUR, EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATION.
OUTFALLS, UH, I'LL LET JOSH FROM MY OFFICE HANDLE THIS.
UH, HOPEFULLY HE'LL RAISE HIS HAND, PLEASE.
UH, SO WE WANTED TO START OFF, UH, THE PUBLIC EDUCATION, UM, TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT THE TOWNSHIP'S REQUIRED TO DO FROM, UM, THE MS FOUR STANDPOINT AND IT BEING AN UN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
SO OUR, I THOUGHT OUR FIRST TOPIC SHOULD BE, UH, OUTFALLS, AND IT COVERS, UH, THE FIRST, UH, MINIMUM CONTROL MEASURE, NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH ON STORMWATER IMPACTS.
IF WE COULD MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO, UH, THIS IS A LIST OF DEFINITIONS THAT, UM, WILL PROBABLY BE CONTINUED THROUGHOUT, UH, AND REITERATED THROUGHOUT OUR PRESENTATIONS.
SO, UH, THE FIRST ONE IS BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
AND THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM A STORMWATER ME BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PHYSICAL THING IN THE GROUND, SUCH AS AS A STORMWATER BASIN, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, KIND OF THE BEHIND THE SCENES, THE ACTIVITIES AND PROHIBITION OF PRACTICES, MAINTENANCE AND THINGS THAT PRODUCE, UH, BENEFITS TO THE STORMWATER, AND IT REDUCES THE POLLUTANT LOADING, UM, THE CLEAN WATER ACT, C W A, JUST IN CASE WE USE THAT ACRONYM, UH, IMPAIRED WATERS ARE ANY SURFACE WATER THAT DOESN'T MEET ITS CURRENT DESIGNATED USE.
AND THOSE TYPICALLY ARE EXCEPTIONAL VALUE, HIGH QUALITY BEING THE BEST.
UM, SOME OF THE MORE COMMON ONES IN THE AREA ARE COLD WATER FISHES, MIGRATORY FISHES, WARM WATER FISHES, AND TROUT STOCKED.
UM, I MENTIONED MINIMUM CONTROL MEASURES ON THE FIRST SLIDE.
THERE ARE ACTUALLY SIX OF THOSE THAT ARE PART OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AND, UH, AS WE GET THROUGH EACH OF THESE MCMS, WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAILS, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY BMPS THAT ARE REQUIRED UNDER EACH OF THOSE.
UH, BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT THOSE SIX MS. MCMS ARE.
FIRST ONE BEING PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.
UH, SECOND BEING PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IN PARTICIPATION.
THIRD, ILLICIT DISCHARGE DETECTION AND ELIMINATION, AND THAT I D, D, AND E WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HIT ON LATER.
UM, FOUR IS CONSTRUCTION SITES, STORMWATER RUNOFF CONTROL FIVE, POST-CONSTRUCTION, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IN NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE N P D S REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE TOWNSHIP ORDINANCE.
AND FINALLY, MCM SIX BEING POLLUTION PREVENTION AND GOOD HOUSEKEEPING.
UH, SO WHAT IS MS FOUR? IT'S BASICALLY THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEMS THAT CARRY, UH, WATER FROM A MUNICIPALITY THROUGH DITCHES AND STORM PIPES, UM, AND OTHER INTO A SURFACE WATER.
UM, IT'S OWNED BY THE MUNICIPALITY OR CONTR, OR, UH, OPERATED.
AND IT'S NOT A COMBINED SEWER, MEANING THAT THERE IS NO SANITARY ASPECT TO IT.
AND FINALLY, IT'S NOT PART OF A PUBLICLY OWNED TREATMENT WORKS.
UM, POLLUTANTS ARE ANYTHING THAT DEGRADES THE WATER QUALITY.
UM, IT COULD BE, UH, SEDIMENT, IT COULD BE PCBS, IT COULD BE BE, UH, ORGANIC, UH, COMPOUNDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, PCMS OR POLLUTANT CONTROL MEASURES.
THOSE ARE THE, UM, A ABOVE AND BEYOND REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, UH, A MUNICIPALITY HAS TO DO, SUCH AS IF THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR PCBS, SUCH AS ON THE SCHUEL RIVER, UH, WE WOULD'VE TO DO PCMS TO IDENTIFY IF THERE ARE ANY POTENTIAL SOURCES.
UM, BILL MENTIONED, UH, MR. DINGMAN MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE POLLUTANT REDUCTION PLANS, P R P, UH, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE THAT'S APPROVED FOR SEDIMENT LOAD.
UM, WE LOOKED AT THE TOTAL SEDIMENT, UH, FROM THE MS FOUR, UH, CONTRIBUTING AREA, AND, UH, THE TOWNSHIP'S REQUIRED TO REDUCE THAT AMOUNT BY 10% IN THE FIVE YEAR PERMIT CYCLE.
AND FINALLY, STORM WATER IS ANYTHING THAT'S FROM THE SKY PRECIPITATION OR SNOW MELT, UM, SURFACE RUNOFF AND DRAINAGE OVER LAND DRAINAGE.
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SO SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS OUTFALLS.IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, THIS IS A, A POINT OF, UM, WHERE I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY SPECIFICALLY AN OUTFALL VERSUS SOME OTHER ITEMS. SO, OUTFALLS DEFINED BY THE N P D S MS FOUR PERMIT IS A POINT SOURCE, UH, THAT HAS AN MS FOUR DISCHARGE TO SURFACE WATERS.
UM, AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE CONVEYANCES CONNECTING TO MS FOUR S, IT'S THE FINAL POINT.
SO A POINT SOURCE IS ANY KIND OF DEFINED, UM, POINT OF FLOW.
IT'S AS OPPOSED TO, UH, JUST OVERLAND FLOW COMING FROM OFF OF A FARM FIELD.
IT'S ACTUALLY A CONCENTRATED POINT OF FLOW WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY IDENTIFY WHERE THAT DISCREET POINT OR CONVEYANCE IS GOING INTO, UH, ANOTHER WATERWAY.
FINALLY, SURFACE WATERS ARE ANY KIND OF PERENNIAL INTERMITTENT STREAMS, UM, LAKES, WETLANDS, PONDS, UM, AND IT ALSO, UH, EXCLUDES ANY KIND OF, UM, INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES THAT HAVE THEIR OWN, OWN PERMIT, UH, SOURCES.
SO NO IMPOUNDMENTS OR COOLING WATER PONDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT AN END OF A PIPE, UM, GOING INTO A BASIN OR LEAVING A BASIN, AND THEY, AND THEY DEFINE THAT AS AN OUTFALL, BUT SPECIFICALLY OUTFALLS DIFFER FROM THOSE END WALLS IN THE SENSE THAT, UH, IF THAT FLOW GOES TO A CHANNEL, UH, THAT'S NOT A SURFACE WATER, BUT LIKE A SWALE, IT'S NOT THE POINT WHERE IT LEAVES THE PIPE, BUT THE POINT WHERE THAT SWALE ACTUALLY ENTERS THE SURFACE WATER.
SO D E P DEFINES THE ALPHA AS HAVING TO BE ON A SURFACE WATER.
SO THE POINT WOULD THEN BE MOVED FROM THE ACTUAL PIPE TO THE LOCATION WHERE IT ENTERS THE SURFACE WATER, AND THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE, UM, PIPES THAT GO INTO A SWALE, AND THEN IT GETS CONSOLIDATED DOWN INTO A SINGLE OUTFALL VERSUS MULTIPLE OUTFALLS.
THERE WOULD STILL BE ON YOUR MAP, A PIPE OUTLET OR AN END WALL, BUT THE ACTUAL POINT WHERE YOU OBSERVE WOULD BE THE FINAL POINT WHERE IT ENTERS THE SURFACE WATER.
AND ANOTHER POINT, UH, OF INTEREST WOULD BE WHERE YOU HAVE MS FOUR FLOWS GOING INTO A SEPARATE SYSTEM SUCH AS A PEN DOT OR ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT POINT, UH, WHERE IT LEAVES THE TOWNSHIP'S MS FOUR AND GOES DOWNSTREAM INTO ANOTHER.
THAT POINT WOULD NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED AN OUTFALL, BUT INSTEAD IT WOULD BE AN OBSERVATION POINT.
SO HERE WE GET INTO MCM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS ILLICIT DISCHARGE DETECTION AND ELIMINATION.
UM, SO ALPHAS ARE IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO MAP TO DETERMINE, GO AND GO BACK TO FIND SOURCES OF POTENTIAL POLLUTION.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THEN, IN A SENSE THAT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHERE YOUR, UM, WHERE YOUR PIPES END UP DISCHARGING TOO.
SO THERE'S, UH, THREE BMPS HERE THAT I LIST THAT ARE PART OF THAT MCM THREE.
SO YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAP YOUR STREAMS AND YOUR OUTFALLS SO YOU, YOU KNOW, WHERE EVERYTHING'S CONNECTED.
AND USUALLY YOU DO THAT ALONG WITH BM P NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM.
SO IT'S YOUR PIPES AND YOUR ROADS AND, UM, INLETS, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT YOU HAVE ON A MAP.
AND FINALLY, WITH THAT MAP, THEN YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN AND, AND DO YOUR OUTFALL SCREENINGS.
AND THESE SCREENINGS ARE, ARE DONE DURING DRY WEATHER.
AND IF THERE ARE CERTAIN FLOWS COMING OUT AFTER A PERIOD OF DRY WEATHER, WHICH IS TYPICALLY, UM, 48 HOURS OR 72 HOURS, UM, THESE, THEY'RE THEN THEY NEED TO BE SCREENED TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S A SOURCE OF, UH, ILLICIT DISCHARGE COMING OUT.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SCENES OR COLOR OR SMELLS, AND YOU MAY NEED TO SAMPLE BASED ON THAT.
UH, SO THE PICTURE ON THE UPPER RIGHT WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE A DISCOLORED WATER, SO THAT WOULD WARRANT SOME SORT OF SAMPLING.
SO THIS IS A 10,000 FOOT VIEW OF, OF THE TOWNSHIP.
THE, UH, STARS WITH THE NUMBERS ARE BASICALLY A, UM, UH, CLUSTER OF, OF OUT FALLS IN THAT GENERAL LOCATION.
SO ONE OF THE MAIN ONES RIGHT THERE IN THE HEART OF THE TOWNSHIP, THERE'S A A 10.
SO IF YOU ZOOMED IN TO THE MAP ONLINE, YOU WOULD SEE
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10 SPECIFIC OUTFALLS.SO WE CAN THEN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND KIND OF HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
SO THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 150 MS FOUR OUTFALLS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE TOWNSHIP AND CURRENTLY PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, BROKES THOSE OUT INTO FOUR AREAS, UH, TO HELP WITH INSPECTION SCHEDULING.
AND EACH OF THOSE FOUR AREAS IS INSPECTED FULLY, UH, ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS.
AND THEY DO TWO INSPECTIONS FOR EACH OUTFALL DURING THAT PERIOD OF, DURING THAT YEAR PERIOD.
AND IN TWENTY TWENTY, A HUNDRED AND ELEVEN OUTFALLS WERE INSPECTED, AND THEY DID THAT TWICE, UH, IN 2021.
SO FAR, 89 OUTFALLS HAVE BEEN INSPECTED ONCE SO FAR, AND IN BOTH, UH, LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, NO ILLICIT DISCHARGES WERE DETECTED IN, UM, IN THOSE OUTFALL INSPECTIONS.
SO THIS IS A, UM, A PRINT FROM ONE OF THE, UH, OUTFALL INSPECTIONS.
SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE, YOU KNOW, THE DATE THAT IT WAS CAPTURED.
THEY LOOK AT, UH, VISUAL OBSERVATIONS THERE, UM, ON THE LEFT, HALFWAY DOWN.
UM, GOOD VEGETATION UPSTREAM OF THE OUTFALL, UH, NO BIOLOGICAL SIGNS.
AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY LISTED ON THE RIGHT THERE, QUANTITY OF LAST RAIN LESS THAN OR TRACE, UH, 0.1 INCHES.
UM, SO, UH, THEY COULD ALSO TAKE A PICTURE OF THE OUTFALL DURING, DURING THAT, UH, OUTFALL INSPECTION.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN IT UP IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE M MS FORT WATER AND, UH, PROJECTS BECAUSE, UH, IF YOU LIKE GOING TO THE BEACH OR USING THE RIVER OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE SUMMERTIME FOR RECREATION, YOU'RE SWIMMING IN, BOATING IN WHATEVER, WHAT FLOWS OUT OF EVERY TOWNSHIP THAT TOUCHES THE RIVER ON THE WAY DOWN.
SO, UH, THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, SOLICITOR'S REPORT, JUST ONE MINOR ITEM.
UM, YOU'LL RECALL THAT PHOENIXVILLE, UH, SOLD THEIR WATER SYSTEM TO PA AMERICAN, AND THERE WAS A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS.
THINK ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ROY'S REPORT, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, ROYER, SIR.
UM, AND, UM, AS THEY, AS THEY STARTED ON THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO, TO GO TO SETTLEMENT, THEY FOUND, UH, AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWNSHIP AND ROYERSFORD FROM 1960 I THINK IT WAS, UM, WHICH NOBODY KNEW ABOUT.
UM, AND IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY PURPOSE ANYMORE.
BUT I SPOKE TO THE, THE ATTORNEY WHO'S CL UH, GOING TO CLOSE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE SENDING ME THAT AGREEMENT AND HAVE A SOLVED VOTE TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT.
IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MEETING ANYMORE, BUT AS A PART OF THEIR GETTING THE SETTLEMENT, IT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH IN SOME WAY.
UH, IT HASN'T BEEN SENT TO ME YET, BUT I'LL CIRCULATE IT ONCE I GET IT.
AND NOW OPEN IT UP FOR SUPERVISOR'S COMMENTS.
I HAVE, I HAVE SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO, I HAVE SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO READ.
UM, I GET A LOT OF EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS.
UH, A LOT OF 'EM I WOULDN'T READ HERE.
UM, THIS ONE WAS PARTICULAR NICE AND I THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE THIS EVENING.
DEAR SIR, MY NAME IS JOHN MARTIN.
GOSH, I HAVE LIVED IN OAKS FOR OVER 48 YEARS AND HAVE COME TO KNOW MANY UPPER PROVIDENCE POLICE OFFICERS.
I ENCOUNTERED ALMOST ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I WAS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE OAKS FIRE COMPANY FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
I'M WRITING TO YOU ABOUT ONE OF YOUR FINEST SERGEANT ROBIO.
HE HAS MY COMMENDATION FOR HIS HELP IN PULLING OVER AND CITING MANY VEHICLES FOR VIOLATING THE PASSING OF A SCHOOL BUS WITH MY RED LIGHTS ON AND THE STOP SIGN EXTENDED.
I'M ALSO A SCHOOL BUS DRIVER FOR THE SPRING FORD SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR SIX YEARS.
DURING THAT TIME, I HAVE HAD MANY VEHICLES GO THROUGH MY RED LIGHTS.
DURING THAT TIME, I HAD MANY COMMERCIAL TRUCKS, BUSES AND CARS GO THROUGH MY RED LIGHTS.
I WROTE MANY VIOLATIONS REPORTS AND HAD THEM SENT TO UPPER PROVIDENCE POLICE ON ROADS LIKE BLACKROCK ROAD.
I TELL THESE STUDENTS THAT BEFORE THEY CROSS THE ROAD, THEY LOOK AT ME TO GIVE THEM THE SIGNAL TO CROSS.
ALSO, I TELL THEM THAT IF THEY HEAR MY HORN TO STOP AND GO NO FURTHER, THEN CAME ROB, HE HAS PUT THE FAITH BACK
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IN ME THAT THERE ARE POLICE WHO CARE IN THE AM.ROB WILL PICK UP ON BLACKROCK ROAD TWO STOPS AND FOLLOW ME DOWN TO EGYPT ROAD.
HE HAS PULLED OVER MANY VIOLATORS.
HE HAS THE RECORD OF 40 SECONDS FROM WHEN WE STARTED ON BLACK ROCK ROAD, TWICE, NOT JUST WITH ME, BUT OTHER BUSES WHO HE HAS FOLLOWED.
I COULD ONLY WISH THAT THERE WERE MANY POLICE OFFICERS LIKE ROB.
THEN MAYBE WE COULD CURTAIL THE EPIDEMIC OF VEHICLES, PASSING BUSES.
WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO FORMER OR CURRENT OFFICERS WHO, WHO DRIVE FOR CUSTER'S GARAGE AND THEIR EYES WERE OPEN.
THEY ARE AMAZED AT HOW MANY CARS PASS THROUGH THE RED LIGHTS AND STOP SIGN.
ROB IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH HELP FROM THE POLICE IN THE SPRINGFIELD SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I THOUGHT THIS WARRANTED READING.
AND, UH, THANK YOU TO ROB SOLARIO.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, IF I MAY? UH, UM, THE BOOKS THAT I'VE LISTENED TO IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO ARE ROUGHING IT BY MARK TWAIN, 100 DOGS AND COUNTING BY KARA SUE BERG, DRAMA BY JOHN LITHCO IN ORDER TO LIVE BY YAME PARK.
AND I'M CURRENTLY LISTENING TO WILDING BY ISABELLA TREE.
UH, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT I GOT MY SECOND, UH, PFIZER SHOT ON SATURDAY.
I HAVE HAD VIRTUALLY NO SIDE EFFECTS.
AND I SAY VIRTUALLY BECAUSE MY SHOULDERS NECK GET TIGHT, BUT I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RELATED TO THE SHOT OR JUST MY LIFE.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, GET OUT THERE, GET IT.
ANYBODY ELSE? I HAVE JUST ONE COMMENT.
IN A FEW WEEKS, WE'VE GOT THE PRIMARY ELECTION COMING UP AND PEOPLE WHO ARE REGISTERED AS REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARE USED TO VOTING IN THE PRIMARY ELECTIONS.
BUT THIS YEAR WE HAVE FOUR QUESTIONS ON THE BALLOT RELATED TO THE PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION.
AND PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT REGISTERED REPUBLICANS AND NOT REGISTERED DEMOCRATS WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE.
IF YOU'RE INDEPENDENT GREEN PARTY, ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE TWO MAJOR PARTIES, YOU WILL HAVE A SEPARATE BALLOT THAT YOU CAN VOTE ON THOSE FOUR CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS.
AND I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD IDEA FOR FOLKS TO GET OUT AND VOTE.
I KNOW I'VE BEEN TURNING AWAY PEOPLE FOR YEARS, THE DOOR BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING FOR INDEPENDENCE TO VOTE ON.
BUT THIS YEAR THERE IS, AND THERE IS A BALLOT FOR YOU IF YOU WANT TO VOTE.
SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I, I DID WANNA SAY ONE OTHER THING.
UM, I, I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM PARKHOUSE AND WE ARE ALL AWARE STAFF AND ALL OF THE SUPERVISORS HERE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SWIRL ON WHAT'S FACT AND WHAT'S NOT AND WHAT'S GOING ON OVER PARKHOUSE.
AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE'S NO IMPENDING VOTE COMING UP.
I'VE GOTTEN PEOPLE WALK UP TO ME IN MY LAWN, I WENT TO A YARD SALE DOWN THE STREET, AND THE NEIGHBORS SWOOPED IN ON ME AND ASKED ME WHEN THE APARTMENTS WERE COMING IN.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF MIS MIS MISINFORMATION.
AND I, I ALSO WANNA ASK THE STAFF IF THEY CAN PERHAPS DO A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, FACTS AND DATA THAT WE CAN PUT OUT AND HELP SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON OVER A PARKHOUSE, WHICH ISN'T ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
AND I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, LIKE A FACT SHEET.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I MEAN, I LIVE THERE AND THE NEIGHBORS ALL KNOW ME, AND SO I'M GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
SO, AND, AND JEFF, JUST TO, TO, AND, AND TIM, AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING ON THE RADAR FOR THEM TO COME BACK.
I HAVE NO SUBMISSIONS ON THE SITE.
AND, UH, THERE'S NO MORE SUPERVISOR COMMENTS.
TIM, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT UPCOMING EVENTS, MEETING SCHEDULE? I, UH, MEETING SCHEDULE, UH, WOULD BE, UH, MAY 17TH, UH, 2021.
THAT'S GONNA BE A SPECIAL MEETING WHERE WE'LL BE, UH, SWEARING IN OUR NEW, UH, UH, CHIEF OF POLICE.
SO I'M HOPING TO, UH, UM, HAVE A NICE, THAT BEING A NICE, NICE AFFAIR.
UH, JUNE 21ST IS OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING IN JUNE, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULED, UH, CANCELED FOR APRIL 28TH.
UH, AGENDA ITEMS IS ARE THE, UH, LEWIS ROAD TOWNHOMES 3 57 GREENWOOD
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AVENUE IN THE PROVIDENCE BUSINESS PARK.THREE AND PD, HOME AND GARDEN.
AND OUR PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULE IS APRIL, UH, 21ST, SIX O'CLOCK.
AND I SHOULD SAY JUNE 1ST, UM, IS OUR NEXT MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ON THERE.
UH, IF THERE'S NO MORE COMMENTS, UH, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.