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TOM, WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET STARTED.
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US IN AND THEN I'LL DO REORGANIZATION.THE, THE FIRST MEETING OF ANY BOARD IN THE TOWNSHIP, IN ANY TOWNSHIP, IN ANY MUNICIPALITY, THEY, THEY MUST REORGANIZE.
AS SAID, WE WENT THROUGH THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE JUST ORGANIZED FOR THE FIRST TIME.
SO I GUESS WE ARE REORGANIZING.
UM, WHAT I NEED YOU, WHAT I NEED IS I NEED A MOTION FOR A CHAIR, A MOTION FOR A VICE CHAIR, AND I THINK WE'RE HAVING A SECRETARY.
OR WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO JUST CARRY THE SAME PEOPLE OVER.
WHATEVER YOUR, YOUR PLEASURE IS.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, KEEP THE OFFICERS THE, THE SAME AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE.
ALL OPPOSED? MR. MR. WRIGHT, YOU HAVE THE MEETING.
CHAIRMAN WRIGHT, YOU HAVE THE MEETING.
AND THANK YOU BOARD FOR YOUR, UH, FOR YOUR, UH, YOUR VOTE AGAIN THIS YEAR.
I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME REALLY SERIOUS STUFF COMING OUT OF THIS, MEET THIS, UH, COMMITTEE THIS YEAR.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR VOTE.
ALL YOU GUYS, UM, YOU CAN SEE OUR AGENDA,
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UH, JEFF PUT TOGETHER AGENDA.SO WE'VE CALLED THE ORDER WITH, UH, SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO PUBLIC, SO WE HAVE NO, WE CAN SKIP OVER THAT.
SO REALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MINUTES FROM
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NOVEMBER 16TH, WHICH WAS OUR LAST MEETING TO, UH, APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.AND IF YOU TAKE A MINUTE TO LOOK THROUGH THERE.
OH, THAT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANY, UM, ANY, UM, COMMENTS, UH, UPDATES, UH, ANYTHING ELSE WE WANNA TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE MOVE ON? SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 16TH.
WE GOT A MOTION TO MOVE, UH, TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.
SO WE'VE PROVED THE MINUTES, JEFF, FROM NOVEMBER 16TH, AND
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WE'LL GO ON TO GENERAL DISCUSSION.AND I'D LIKE TO START THE GENERAL DISCUSSION BY COMMENTING ON A EMAIL THAT BILL HAS SENT TO ME, AND I THINK TO YOU, JEFF.
AND I JUST WANNA LET THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT BILL HAS SENT OUT AND THEN I'LL LET BILL TALK ABOUT IT CUZ IT'S HIS LETTER.
I'LL JUST BRIEFLY TELL YOU WHAT BILL'S SUGGESTING IS.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE, ON OUR NOVEMBER MEETING, BILL TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE MEADOWS, YOU KNOW, ROWING MEADOWS, HAVING MEADOWS IN, UM, IN, AS OPPOSED TO GRASS, UH, IN SOME PROPERTIES, UH, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, I THINK.
SO HE, HE, UH, HE'S PUT THAT FORTH AND, UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT BILL HAS A SUGGESTION, UH, TO CARRY THAT TO THE NEXT STEP.
UH, AND I'LL LET BILL DESCRIBE
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WHAT THAT IS.SO WHOLE IDEA OF OUR DISAGREE NATIVE SUPPORT, OH, SORRY.
LET'S SUPPORT THE INSECTS AND, AND SO FORTH THAT SUPPORT THE BIRDS THAT, THAT POLLINATE THE PLANTS.
AND, UH, SO HE, HE GAVE A TALK ABOUT, ABOUT THAT, UH, AND HIS MOVEMENT, WHICH, WHICH IS, UH, KNOWN AS THE, UH, HOMEGROWN NATIONAL PARK IS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT THE NEED AND HOW WE CAN CHANGE OUT A LOT OF OUR LAWNS TO MEADOWS TO CREATE CORRIDORS BETWEEN GREEN SPACES, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, INSECTS.
AFTER I SAW HIM THERE, LISTENED TO HIM TALKING, THEN HE ACTUALLY HAD A SECOND SESSION WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT OAK TREES AND HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE AS ONE OF THE BIGGER TREES IN OUR ENVIRONMENT AREA AND SO FORTH.
UH, I SENT HIM AN EMAIL AND ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD, CAUSE WHERE I SAW HIM WAS DOWN ON THE LOWER MAIN LINE, A LOT OF, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, A LOT OF MUNICIPAL DACS, LIKE OURSELF MOSTLY FROM THAT AREA.
SO I SENT HIM AN EMAIL AND ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD COME AND SPEAK PHOENIXVILLE AREA.
HIS WIFE REPLIED TO ME, SHE'S HIS, HIS, UH, PROGRAM MANAGER.
AND, UH, SHE SAID, YEAH, THEY'D BE HAPPY TO, HIS FEE IS, UH, $3,500 COME OUT.
SO EMAILED BACK AND FORTH A COUPLE TIMES AND TOLD HIM I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET THIS SET UP.
SO I'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO OTHER TOWNSHIP EACS.
I TALKED TO THE COLONIAL THEATER TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THAT AS A VENUE.
I WENT AND HAD A MEETING WITH THEM AND THEY ARE OFFERING UP, UH, ONE OF THE THEATERS TOLD.
SO, UH, WHAT I HOPE TO DO IS, IS RAISE $500 FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, VALLEY FORGE AUDUBON, UM, UH, FRENCH AND PICKERING TRUST AND GET THE $3,500.
AND HOW ABOUT YOU? YOU MENTIONED TO ME, UH, OTHER TOWNSHIPS.
YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE LIMERICK OR WHATEVER.
UH, ACTUALLY, I JUST SPOKE WITH SOMEONE THIS MORNING WHO WAS ON THE BOROUGH COUNCIL IN POTSTOWN.
THEY HAVE AN EAC OUT THERE, SO, UH, SO YEAH, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GET, GET WHAT WE NEED, HAD SOME REPLIES.
UH, ONE OF THE TOWNSHIPS SAID, HEY, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THIS 500 BE FOR OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UH, BACK AND FORTH, SO I'M ASKING THAT IF THE TOWNSHIP WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT UP $500 PLEDGE PLEDGE, $500.
I FORWARDED YOUR EMAIL TO, UM, THE ASSISTANT MANAGER AND MANAGER, UM, THIS MORNING.
AND AS A CONSULTANT, I DON'T MAKE FINANCIAL DECISIONS.
SO, AND I HAD FORGOTTEN THE EMAIL, SARAH, AS, YOU KNOW, MY CO-HOST IN THIS MA MATTER.
SO HER, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND WE'LL GET WITH BRIAN AND TIM AND SEE, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE, BUT LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A BUDGET FOR THE EAC, SO WE HAVE TO FIND IT SOMEWHERE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A, A PRETTY GOOD START YEAH.
FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, DIG INTO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING TO, IF IT'S A PERCENTAGE, TAKE HER TEETH INTO HALF FROM THE PLANE DEPARTMENT, HALF FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, I MEAN RIGHT.
REALLY IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HURT OUR BUDGETS TOO MUCH.
SO
I THINK WE NEED TO GET OTHER PEOPLE.
SO HOW DO WE DO THAT THOUGH? WHICH IS WHICH YOUR IDEA, YOU'VE ALREADY CONTACTED THESE PEOPLE AND YOU'RE WAITING TO HEAR, OR DO YOU NEED US TO HELP CONTACT THEM? WHAT DO, WHAT DO WE DO? WELL, I, I'M, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO I'M LOOKING TO SUPPORT IT.
AND THEN THAT WAY ALSO BY HAVING MANY ORGANIZATIONS, UH, SUB YOU KNOW, SUBSIDIZE THIS, THEN THEY CAN INVITE PEOPLE FROM THEIR MEMBERSHIP BASE OR THEIR TOWNSHIP.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS, DO, DO YOU KNOW, JEFF,
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TELL ME, YOU KNOW, DO WE, DO WE CRAFT A LETTER AND SEND IT OUT TO SOME OF THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS? SAY, YOU'RE BEHIND THIS, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT ALSO.UH, WELL, I THINK, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING WILL BE ONCE I HAVE THIS NAILED DOWN AND, AND WE'RE, UH, AS DOUG TALLAMY SAID, HE'S, HE'S PENCILED IT IN FOR MAY 7TH.
SO ONCE I KNOW I HAVE THE FUNDING, THEN WE WANNA REACH OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS, UH, THE, THE MANAGERS OF OUR LOCAL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO WE GET PEOPLE FROM UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP COMING TO THIS EVENT.
SO I WOULD SAY OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEN EACH OF THOSE TOWNSHIPS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO GET THEIR MEMBERSHIPS TO COME AGAIN.
I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL PIECE TO GET, TO GET THE TOWNSHIPS OR THESE OTHER, UM, THE AUDUBON OR WHOEVER TO GET THEM ON BOARD IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, SPONSORSHIPS.
I, I THINK ONCE HE HAS SOME MORE CONFIRMATION FROM THE PEOPLE HE'S REACHED OUT TO SO FAR, WE CAN FORMALIZE IT WITH THE, WITH EITHER SOMETHING ON TOWNSHIP LETTERHEAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, AND WE CAN FUNNEL EVERYTHING TO US.
AND THEN WE CAN PROBABLY, ASSUMING THIS IS ALL FINE WITH, WITH THE BOARD AND EVERYBODY ELSE, WE CAN FUNNEL THAT MONEY TO, TO THE SPEAKER SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE FINANCIAL EVIDENCE.
I, WE, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO HAVE YOU WORRY ABOUT MONEY AND MONEY OUT.
I DON'T THINK WE WANT, I I MEAN, AS I, ALL I'M LOOKING FOR NOW ARE PLEDGES.
ONCE I KNOW I HAVE ENOUGH TO, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, THEN WE'LL FORMALIZE IT.
PROBABLY HAVE EVERYBODY WRITE CHECKS TO THE COLONIAL THEATER AND LET THEM BE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD WORK FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
I MEAN, IS I THINK I'D RATHER SEE THE TOWNSHIP, I MEAN THE COLONIAL THEATER, IF, IF THEY'RE OFFERING THEIR SERVICES FREE, I'D RATHER HAVE US BRING THE MONEY IN AND AND PAY IT OUT.
BUT WE CAN WORK OUT THAT DETAIL.
WHATEVER, WHATEVER WOULD I MEAN, YEAH.
ARE YOU LOOKING TOO, THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD, UM, WE WOULD, UM, UH, CHARGE PEOPLE TO COME TO THIS, YOU KNOW, $10 AHEAD OR, OR, OR ARE WE LOOKING JUST TO TRY TO GET SPONSORS TO COVER IT? WHAT IS EVERYBODY'S FEELING? WHAT IS YOUR FEELING ON THAT BILL? UH, WELL, THE, THE, THE COLONIAL HAS SPONSORED OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS.
ONE WAS THE DELAWARE RIVER KEEPER, ANOTHER WAS A, UH, HIGH LOCAL SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS.
AND WITH THOSE EVENTS, UH, PEOPLE WHO CAME TO THE THEATER WOULD, WOULD PAY WHAT THEY WANT.
OH, DONATE COLONIAL WAS NOT CHARGING ANY.
AND THEY'RE OFFERING THE THEATER FOR FREE.
WELL, BUT I'M SAYING, WOULD, WOULD WE, WHEN WE, IF WE SEND OUT THIS LETTER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, JEFF, JEFF, AT SOME POINT WOULD WE SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE $10 PER PERSON, $5 PER, PER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
I THINK IF, IF WE GET ENOUGH DONATIONS.
NO, I, I WOULD, I'D RATHER SEE THIS JUST BE SOMETHING THAT UPPER PROVIDENCE EAC ORGANIZED.
WE HAVE A SHEET THAT HAS ALL OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, ORGANIZATIONS AND ALL THAT SAYING THAT, THAT EVERYBODY CONTRIBUTED AND THAT WE JUST RUN IT FOR FREE.
FOUR, KEEP IT LIMITED TO EAC MEMBERS OR MEMBERS OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES PAYING FOR IT.
NOT MAKING THIS A PUBLIC EVENT, EVEN THOUGH, FROM WHAT SARAH SAYS, SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE WOULD COME AND, AND PAY THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S OUR ROLE HERE IS TO RUN A PUBLIC OKAY.
I'M MORE JUST, I JUST WANNA COVER IN EXPENSES.
CAUSE I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE PROGRAM.
AND IF WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO CH TOWNSHIPS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO, TO, UH, TO FUND IT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE WAY BY CHARGING PUBLIC, I, I GUESS IT BY THE, WHAT'S THE NEXT MEETING? JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH.
WE CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE IN MARCH.
AND IF, IF WE HAVE TO PIVOT AND HEY, YOU KNOW, DO A, A A A PAYMENT STRUCTURE.
IF COLONIAL THEATER'S OKAY WITH THAT, MAYBE WE CAN GO THAT ROUTE IF WE CAN'T GET ENOUGH SPONSORS.
AND I, I WASN'T ASKING FOR UPPER PROVIDENCE TO UNDERWRITE THE WHOLE THING.
I, AND I'M TRYING TO GET AS MANY RIGHT.
BUT WE CAN ALSO, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD YOU, BILLY, AND SPEAKING FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
BUT I THINK WE CAN ALSO DO A LOT OF THE PRINTING, THE BACKEND WORK, THE BACKEND WORK.
I, I KNOW SARAH'S PHENOMENAL WITH GRAPHICS AND, AND FLYERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE CAN DO A LOT OF THAT WORK TOO.
I KNOW WE'RE A LITTLE LATE IN THE GAME ALWAYS WHEN THERE'S THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT, IS WE'RE THINGS THAT HAVE THIS EDUCATIONAL VALUE FOR PEOPLE GRANTS, AND GET IN TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE GRANTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
THEY WOULD COVER THE WHOLE THING.
UH, AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK, BUT I'M SURE THAT THE GENTLEMAN WOULD KNOW OF PLACES TO GET GRANTS FOR HIM TO SPEAK.
I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T TELL HIM WELL, GRANTS, WELL, I'M BRINGING IT TAKES
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A WHILE TO GET YEAH.WHAT I'M SUGGESTING NOW IS THAT, UM, IF WE'RE DOING THESE INFORMATIVE SESSIONS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY A LOT'S GONNA HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT YEAR, UH, TO GET THIS THING ROLLING, IS THAT WE DO LOOK INTO AS MANY THE AUDUBON SOCIETY ON THROUGH TO FIND OUT ANYONE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HELPING US, UH, FIND SOME FINANCE THROUGH GRANTS.
NOT, YOU KNOW, TO, THERE ARE THINGS THAT YEAH, THEY HAVE ALSO HAVE, BUT ALSO THAT YEAH.
AND I ACTUALLY, AS A FOLLOW UP, AFTER I SAW DOUG TALLK ON THAT SUNDAY, COINCIDENTALLY, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT CHRISTINA WATERSHED DOWN IN SOUTHERN, SOUTHERN CHESTER COUNTY HAD A WORKSHOP AND THEY HAD DC N R THERE, WHICH THEY COME OUT FOR FREE.
THEY HAD ANOTHER ORGANIZATION FROM PHILADELPHIA.
AND THE TWO PEOPLE ACTUALLY WHO, WHO WERE FROM THAT ORGANIZATION, THEY WERE, THEY WERE PEOPLE WHO LOOKED FOR FUNDS TO DO BIGGER PROJECTS.
THEY HAPPENED TO LIVE IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY HERE FOR THEM.
AND THEN THERE WAS A LANDSCAPER WHO SPECIALIZES IN CONVERTING, UH, LANDSCAPES TO NATIVES.
THE NAME OF HIS COMPANY WAS WEEDS INC.
BUT, UH, BUT SO HE DOES STUFF LIKE, LIKE PICO, RIGHT.
OBVIOUSLY HE CAME AND SO THAT WAS A, A, YOU KNOW, A FOUR HOUR WORKSHOP.
SO TELL US WHERE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE AS WELL, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
YEAH, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT, JEFF.
WE'LL, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO DISCUSS AND YOU CAN EMAIL US AND, AND JUST KEEP YEAH.
THEN LET, LET US, LET'S, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW HOW, YOU KNOW.
UM, CAN WE, JEFF, UM, OR WITH, FOR THE TOWNSHIP, UM, FOR STUFF LIKE THIS, CAN WE GET FROM LIKE MANAGEMENT, LIKE WHAT GUIDELINES OR LIKE WHERE IT'S LIKE BILL'S DOING ALL THIS WORK MM-HMM.
ARE LIKE, WHO DO WE NEED TO GET BUY-IN FROM? WHO DO WE NEED TO, LIKE, WHO NEEDS TO APPROVE? UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE TALKING ABOUT MONEY, LIKE WHO, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE FINANCIAL END OF IT BECAUSE AGAIN, AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A BUDGET NEXT MEETING, CAN WE, LIKE, I WOULD DEFER TO SARAH ON, ON, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR TO PROGRAMS AND IT'S SIMILAR TO HOW PARKS AND REC, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD WHEN WE SORT OF LOOK AT THIS BOARD, I'M SORT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF IT, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S, I DON'T, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I DO.
SHE'S GONNA RUN AND, AND TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS MORE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF MORE AND PROBABLY GET MORE DUMPED ON HER IN THE LONG RUN
UM, SO WHEN IT COMES TO PROGRAMS, I WOULD CERTAINLY DEFER TO SARAH TO, TO OUTLINE HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UM, IF THEY COME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT THEY WANNA RUN A PROGRAM OR DO AN EVENT PER SE, THEY MEET WITH US SEPARATELY.
LIKE WE WOULDN'T ALL FOUR OR ALL FIVE OF YOU MEET WITH US.
BUT IF YOU CHOOSE LIKE A POINT PERSON, LIKE LET'S JUST SAY BILL FELTON IS THE POINT PERSON FOR THIS PROJECT, AND MAYBE HE CHOOSES ONE OTHER PERSON TO KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD ON IT AND THEY, THEY KIND OF HELP PLAN MAYBE THE THREE OF US OR THE FOUR OF US WOULD MEET AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PLANNING THAT WHERE YOU GUYS MIGHT BE LIKE, I MIGHT SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I CAN DO.
LIKE I CAN CREATE THE GRAPHICS AND THE FLYERS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT I NEED YOU GUYS TO CONTACT PEOPLE FOR SUPPORT.
BUT HERE I'LL GIVE YOU A LETTERHEAD.
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PLAN ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.UM, BUT YOU WOULD KIND OF NEED, BECAUSE IT'S UNDER THE REPRESENTATION OF THE TOWNSHIP, YOU WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH ONE OF US MOST, I FORGET, SIR.
BUT YOU WORK AT PARK AND RECREATION NOW, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YOU WORK PURSUIT? I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, YES.
SO I COULD HELP YOU WITH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT THIS IS KIND OF MY PASSION TOO.
SO I ENJOY DOING THESE THINGS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HELP YOU PLAN OUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
SERIES IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A SERIES OR SOMETHING.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, BESIDES WHAT BILL, THANK YOU, BILL, THAT IS GREAT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT START FOR US OR A GREAT PLACE TO TRY TO GET STARTED ON SOMETHING.
AND I MENTIONED THIS TO JEFF AGAIN THE OTHER DAY, DAY, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, AND I JUST MENTIONED TO HIM, BUT I'M STILL, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU, BUT I'M STILL CONFUSED EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.
AND THAT GOES A LITTLE BIT TO YOUR QUESTION.
UM, AND SO I GUESS WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR YOUR DIRECTIONS, SARAH, TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO WE, WHAT SHOULD WE BE? SARAH? SARAH COULD I, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL FIRST MEETING.
AND, UM, THERE WERE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE FILED ON THAT WERE SORT OF, THAT MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
AND, UM, I THINK MAYBE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GO DOWN THOSE ITEMS. ONE WAS BEST PRACTICES, UH, THAT COULD BE ANYTHING.
THAT COULD BE HOW YOU SUSTAIN ROADS OR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT OR WHATEVER.
AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO JUMP ON THAT, TO IDENTIFY AREAS WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, UH, THAT ARE IN NEED FOR, COULD BE MANAGED BETTER.
UH, THE OTHER THING WOULD BE JUST TO LOOK IN OUR OPEN SPACES AND SEE WHERE WE HAVE PROPERTY THAT'S TOWNSHIP RUN OR PRIVATELY OWNED THAT WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THESE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, NATURALIZATION, UH, UM, USING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S JUST SO THAT WE CAN FIND PEOPLE WHO PRIVATELY WILL DO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT SUSTAIN NATURAL PLANNINGS, TRY TO REESTABLISH WETLANDS.
UM, I KNOW THAT SOUNDS BIG, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF AREAS HERE THAT WERE WETLAND THAT ARE NOW GOING TO BE BACK CONVERTED HOUSES, KNOCKED DOWN, UH, FIELDS OPENED UP BECAUSE OF FLOODING, ET CETERA.
BUT THERE'S A CATALYST AFTER THAT TO MAKE IT MORE WETLANDS, UH, MANAGEABLE.
WE COULD LIKE, I GUESS, UH, A COUPLE OF US TAKE THOSE THINGS AND JUST TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO HERE, HERE'S MY PROBLEM WITH NOT A PROBLEM.
HERE'S MY QUESTION WITH THAT GILLEY, AND, AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH ALL THAT.
BUT LET'S SAY WE IDENTIFY A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BECOME A WETLAND OR A THIRD SANCTUARY, OR THE WILDLIFE SANCTUARY, WHATEVER.
HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT THAT? WHO IM, WHO IMPLEMENTS THAT? WELL, WHAT I WAS, AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO WITH THE OTHER TOWNSHIPS THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS PROGRAM, AND ACTUALLY A LOT OF THEM HAVE DONE IT YEARS.
UM, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT LIKE GREAT WETLANDS, IT'S MORE JUST BEST PRACTICE.
UH, YOU SHOULDN'T MOW THESE AREAS BECAUSE THEY STOP RUNOFF OR YOU, YOU HAVE AREAS WHERE, UM, PROBABLY THE BEST THING YOU COULD DO WITH IT IS JUST LET IT GROW.
UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLANT, JUST LET IT TRY TO NATURALLY COME BACK.
AND THEN THERE ARE AREAS WHERE IT, THERE'S BEEN INVASION, UM, THERE'S PLANTS THERE THAT ARE HARMFUL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NATURAL TO THE AREA.
UH, A LOT OF IT'S BEEN DONE WEED CONTROL ON ROADWAYS AND ALL WHERE THEY STICK PRODUCT IN THAT.
IT KEEPS THE WEEDS OUT, BUT IT KEEPS EVERYTHING OUT.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE, AGAIN, THAT'S WITH EDUCATION, BUT WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT TO DO.
UM, YOU HAVE RUNOFF AROUND A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND YOU WANT THE PROPERTY STILL TO STAY OPEN.
YOU, YOU LET IT GROW ON THE EDGES FOR 10, 12 FEET AND CREATE A RUNOFF BUFFER.
UH, OR LIKE WE HAD ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT, GO AROUND AND LOOK AT, UM, OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AREAS.
ARE THEY BEING MAINTAINED? ARE WE DOING IT RIGHT? AND THEN I THINK IN A LOT OF THOSE, IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE, IF IT'S RUN BY HOME ASSOCIATION, IT'S JUST TO MAKE THEM AWARE THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
OR IF IT'S WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, IT WOULD BE PART OF OUR TOWNSHIP TEAM.
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GETTING AT IS, THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF THOUGHT.UM, LOOKING AT THIS AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARD WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO REINVENT IT.
WE COULD JUST GO TO TOWNSHIPS THAT HAVE REALLY ESTABLISHED PROGRAMS, LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND THEN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET OFF THE GROUND.
UH, JEFF, YOU HAD MENTIONED, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING, OR MAYBE THE MEETING BEFORE THAT I, ABOUT HAVING SOMEBODY FROM ANOTHER TOWNSHIP THAT YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE FIRST, BUT YES, THAT WAS THE PLAN DISCUSSION THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, RIGHT? YEAH.
MY HOPE IS BY OUR NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE THE CONSTRAINT.
I WOULD WOULD STILL VERY MUCH LIKE TO DO THAT.
AND I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS STARTED, STARTED MAPPING OUT WHAT BASINS THEY'RE GONNA PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS STARTING TO LOOK AT.
A LOT OF THE, ONCE WE GET THAT REPORT, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE YOU DO OUT AND SAY, HERE LOOK, ARE, HERE'S SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE BEST PRACTICES.
AFTER WE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORKS TIME TABLE IS, I THINK TALKING TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN ESTABLISHED EAC KIND OF PICKING THEIR BRAIN TO SEE WHAT THEIR PURPOSE IS AND KIND OF THE PATH THAT THEY TOOK MIGHT HELP YOU GUYS BETTER UNDERSTAND YOUR ROLE AND WHAT YOU WANT THIS TO BE.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NOT REALLY A SET SPECIFIC DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE TO GO IN.
IT'S MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS YOU SEE AS A NEED IN THIS AREA.
AND THAT COULD JUST BE EDUCATING PEOPLE.
IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, FINDING A SPOT LIKE YOU SAID, THAT YOU WANNA SEE CHANGE AND MAKING THAT, LIKE, GETTING THAT CHANGE TO HAPPEN.
IT DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO HAPPEN AT ONCE.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AT ONCE.
IF YOU WANNA PICK SOME SPECIFIC TOPIC AND SORT OF LIKE, FOCUS ON THAT.
IT COULD BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS BEST MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
AND YOU COULD HAVE AN EDUCATION PIECE TO THAT.
YOU COULD HAVE A SAMPLE PIECE TO THAT WHERE YOU HAVE A FIELD LOCATION AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT TO THE FIELD LOCATION AND YOU SHOW THEM THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
AND ALL OF THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME YOU'RE DOING THE WORK, ONE TIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU DID AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S ALL ABOUT EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT AND HELPFUL TO THE TOWNSHIP, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
I, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC, LIKE THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO ON THIS BULLET TIP LIST OF THINGS, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT
I'M LOOKING FOR THAT AND I'M, I'M STRUGGLING WITH, UH, STRUGGLING WITH BEING BEYOND THAT RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THIS BORDER OR ANYBODY'S AGAINST ENVIRONMENTAL BETTERING ENVIRONMENTS AND, AND, AND LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT I'M JUST, I STRUGGLE WITH HOW, HOW IT GETS DONE AND, AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT OUR ROLE IS IN GETTING THAT DONE.
LIKE, LIKE, LIKE JEFF JUST SAID, THE THE, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING ON AND STARTING THE, THE BASIN THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF WE GET INVOLVED IN THAT, ARE WE JUST DUPLICATING WHAT THEY'VE AL WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED AND WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON? AND I SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, TOM.
AND, AND WE ARE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, EDUCATING EACH OTHER, THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWNSHIP IS REALLY WHAT WE, SO IF THERE'S A, SOMETHING THAT WE THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, SUCH AS I KNOW PLASTIC BAGS WAS A SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ADVISE OUR SUPERVISORS OR WHOEVER WOULD CREATE POLICY AROUND THAT THAT WE MIGHT WANNA YEAH.
COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF OUR BIG RETAILERS IN THE TAB SHIP HAS ALREADY WEGMANS.
DID THEY, THEY JUST, THEY STOPPED USING PLA THEY BANNED ALL PLASTIC BAGS.
SO IT WASN'T EVEN MANDATED BY ANY.
NOW WHEN YOU SAY THEY BANDED, WELL THEY DIDN'T BAND YOU COULD BRING IT IN.
THEY'RE JUST NOT GIVING IT WRITE IT.
ACTUALLY THEIR PROGRAMS ARE VERY GOOD.
THEY NOT ONLY SAID YOU CAN BRING YOUR OWN USABLE BAG PLASTIC.
IF YOU WANNA BRING A PLASTIC BAG IN AND REUSE IT, YES YOU CAN.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IF YOU NEED A BAG, THEY'RE
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GONNA CHARGE YOU FOR A PAPER BAG.AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU A PLASTIC BAG.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A MINOR PUSH TO GET EVERYBODY GOING IS WHAT? YEAH.
TO, AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY DID ON THEIR OWN, SIR.
THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING, I BELIEVE THE COMPANY, I THINK IT'S CORPORATE WIDE.
SO IT WASN'T MANDATED BY ANY LOCAL ORDINANCES OR ANYTHING.
I DO KNOW, BUT DIDN'T PHILADELPHIA START THERE? BUT SOME, YEAH, A LOT OF, A LOT OF, I WAS GONNA SAY TOWN.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE, THERE WAS AN EAC THAT I WENT TO THAT I VISITED ONE TIME, I THINK IT WAS
UM, AND THEY, WHEN I VISITED THEM, THEY WERE WORKING ON TALKING TO THE BUSINESSES TO TRY AND REDUCE THE USE OF PLASTIC BAGS IN THEIR TOWN.
SO THEY KIND OF TOOK A PROACTIVE ROLE ON TRYING TO REACH OUT TO ALL THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
NOW THEY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR, THEY, THEIR BOARD MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OURS.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY OPERATE, BUT I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT WHEN I WENT.
THEY'RE AS FAR AS, UH, REACHING OUT TO OTHER EACS AS WELL.
I KNOW SOMEBODY ACTUALLY ON ONE OF THE AUDUBON BIRDWALK, UH, I MENTIONED I WAS PROVIDENCE AAC.
AND HE INVITED ME TO COME, THEY HAVE LIKE A REGIONAL EAC MEETING ONCE A YEAR.
BUT HE, HE SAID, HEY, NEXT TIME WE HAVE ONE, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
AND, BUT THAT'S ALL ABOUT YOU.
SO WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL THAT IS GOOD THAT THAT'S THE EDUCATION.
I NEED THAT TYPE OF EDUCATION MYSELF.
I NEED TO HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DONE.
MAYBE WESTERN MONTGOMERY AND HOW THEY'RE DOING IT.
I NEED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I, I ACTUALLY, I DID STOP BY BURY TOWNSHIP WHILE BACK.
I THINK I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE.
AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
AND THEY DON'T, THEY, THEY'RE ADDRESSING ALL THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THEY'VE ALSO ADDRESSED THINGS LIKE LOOKING AT CONVERTING FROM SALT TO BEAT JUICE.
UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT CONVERTING THEIR FLEET TO ELECTRIC.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING, THEY'RE DOING A 10 YEAR COMPREHENSIVE, WHICH IS A GOOD CATALYST FOR LIKE, I'M SORRY, THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE DONE.
BEE JUICE INSTEAD OF ROAD SALT.
WELL, THAT'S A, IS IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? WELL, IT'S CALLED A BEAT BRINE.
AND THEY, THEY, THEY USE IT IN SENSITIVE AREAS AND NEAR STREAMS, ET CETERA.
IN FACT, IN A LOT OF AREAS IN THE UNITED STATES, THEY USE IT ALTOGETHER CAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE USING SALT TO, TO BE FRANK, WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU TO BRING THINGS JUST LIKE BILL DID WITH HIS SPEAKER.
IF, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT SOMEONE FROM BURY TOWNSHIP TO COME AND SPEAK TO US.
BECAUSE NONE OF US UNDERSTAND WHAT BEAT JEWS DOES FROM SNOW.
I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE CUZ IT JUST CAME UP.
BUT, BUT IF, IF YOU WANT TO, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS JUST, EVEN JUST REMOTELY INTERESTING FOR JUST SURE ONE MEETING, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING PAST.
BUT IF YOU FIND SOMEONE INTERESTING OR YOU WANNA REACH OUT TO SOMEONE AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU COME AND SPEAK ON THESE DAYS? I SET THE AGENDA BECAUSE NO ONE'S TELLING ME WHAT ELSE TO PUT ON THERE.
I WILL PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO ON, WELL NOT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO, BUT I WILL GENERALLY PUT ANYTHING YOU NEED ME TO ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, AND THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I WAS, I I'LL DO THAT.
I'LL DO AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I THINK I'VE USED THE WORD RABBIT HOLE A COUPLE TIMES BEFORE WHEN I DO THINGS.
BUT, UM, INSTEAD OF REINVENTING THE WHEEL, YOU FIND THIS TOWNSHIPS THAT ARE REALLY ESTABLISHED AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
JUST SOMETIMES WHAT, AND USUALLY THEY SAY, WELL, WE SAT TOGETHER ONE NIGHT WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE 10 YEARS AGO AND HERE WE ARE TODAY.
I TRY TO SET THE AGENDA A WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING.
LEGALLY WE DON'T HAVE TO ANNOUNCE AN AGENDA UNTIL 24 HOURS BEFORE.
AND THAT'S THE LEGAL STANDARD.
I PREFER TO HAVE IT OUT, AS YOU KNOW, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I TRY TO GET IT OUT WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AT THE LATEST, SOMETIMES FRIDAY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OTHER CONSULTANTS ARE DOING.
BUT GENERALLY I TRY TO HAVE IT OUT THE WEEKEND BEFORE.
CUZ I THINK THAT GIVES YOU AS A BOARD OPPORTUNITY TO, IF IT'S A LAND DEVELOPMENT, GO LOOK AT IT.
IF IT'S A BASIN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, GO LOOK AT IT.
I'M NOT EXPECTING YOU, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR JOB STATUSES ARE.
WELL, I KNOW TOM'S AND GILLEY'S, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S JOB STATUS IS.
NOT EVERYBODY CAN JUST PICK UP AND LEAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND, AND GO DO SOMETHING LIKE GILLEY, WHO'S MOSTLY RETIRED.
BUT MOSTLY IT'S THE KEY, MOSTLY
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THE IDEA IS THAT I LIKE TO HAVE THE AGENDA OUT BEFORE THE WEEKEND TO GIVE YOU TIME TO LOOK INTO IT WITHOUT SURE.OVERBURDENING EVERYBODY ON A WEEKDAY.
SO ANYTHING YOU WANNA PUT ON AN AGENDA, JUST TRY TO GET ME THE WEEK BEFORE AND, AND WE'LL PUT IT ON THERE.
BUT SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JEFF, IS IF THIS PART, UH, IN THIS INSTANCE GILLEY OR BILL FOR DOWN THE ROAD, IF WE TALK TO A SPEAKER OURSELVES MM-HMM.
EVEN IF YOU, OR WHATEVER EVEN, WELL EVEN IF YOU WANNA SAY, HEY, I MET SOMEBODY AT, OR I, YOU KNOW, I SEE THIS IN BURY TOWNSHIP, CAN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GIVE ME ENOUGH WARNING, I CAN SPEND THE TIME AND I CAN RESEARCH THEM OR I CAN DIG INTO THEM AND TRY TO GET THEM TO COME OUT.
WHICH, BUT WE CAN DO THAT TOO.
WHAT WERE WE SAYING THOUGH? YES.
I THINK YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF WE SAID TO YOU, HEY JEFF, I GOT A SPEAKER SET UP FOR THIS SUBJECT.
I MEAN, YOU'D BE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, RIGHT? I'M, I'M GREAT WITH THAT.
WELL IF IT'S SOMETHING TOO THAT IS LIKE, AND YOU TOO, SARAH, RIGHT? I MEAN WE COPY BOTH OF YOU GUYS.
IF IT'S LIKE AN EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE, YOU CAN ALWAYS COPY JEFF AND I ON THOSE EMAILS AND IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ALWAYS, YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO JEFF OR SARAH IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, DO YOU HAVE CARDS WITH YOU, SARAH? UM, I DO IN MY OFFICE.
BUT AGAIN, SHE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR CARDS JUST SO SHE HAS IT.
BUT IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO PICK LIKE TWO THINGS YOU COULD, ONE OF YOUR GOALS FOR NEXT MEETING COULD BE TO FIND SOMEBODY FROM AN EAC TO SPEAK AND THEN ALSO TO WORK ON GETTING PEOPLE, UM, TO BE FINANCIALLY, UH, WILLING TO PLEDGE TOWARDS YOU GUYS COULD LOOK UP PLACES.
UM, I HAVE BILL, I HAVE A COUPLE OF PLACES THAT I CAN SEND YOU AS WELL OR CONTACT FOR YOU IF YOU WANT ME TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY'D BE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US.
BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOU'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO YEAH.
AND I, I, I MEAN I INITIATED THIS YEAH.
I, I WASN'T EXPECTING YOU GUYS TO HAVE TO PICK UP THAT PART OF THE BALL.
AND SO IF SO IF I WASN'T ON THIS EAC, I'D PROBABLY BE DOWN THERE TONIGHT ASKING YOU.
YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S AWESOME THOUGH.
I MEAN, HE'S, HE'S THAT IMPORTANT OF A PERSON.
WHAT OTHER DISCUSSIONS DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SAY HERE? WE GOT PROBABLY ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET A CROWD IN HERE SOON.
WE HAVE A MEETING GOING ON, SO COULD YOU PLEASE KEEP IT DYING? THAT WORKED.
UM, SO, UH, ANY OTHER OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS YOU ALSO HAVE ANYTHING WE WANNA DISCUSS? BILL? I, I LIKE THE IDEA WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT JEFF, AND THAT'S, UM, IF WE CAN FIND SOME PEOPLE TO HELP US OUT ALONG THE WAY AND WE HAVE A SUBJECT I THINK WE'LL JUST, I'LL GET IT OVER TO JEFF.
WELL, I'LL GET TO JEFF AND THEN IT'LL, IT'LL HAPPEN.
RIGHT? WE'LL GET IT, GET A LITTLE BETTER DIRECTION.
UM, SO WHAT HAS
SO, UH, THE TOWNSHIP'S ALREADY LOOKING AT THEIR EXISTING AREAS FOR, I, I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF DETAIL ABOUT IT.
I WAS JUST ASKED TO PRODUCE A MAP, WHICH WAS, UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I, I, I SORT OF WAS IN A QUANDARY ABOUT IS WHO EXACTLY WOULD GO OUT TO A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND LOOK AND SEE IF THEY'RE USING BEST PRACTICES AND MAINTAINING, WELL ULTIMATELY THE DEPARTMENT OF AROUND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, IF SOMETHING WAS TO GO WRONG WITH A BASIN OR IF A BASIN WAS IDENTIFIED AS FAILING BY D E P, THEY WOULD NOT GO TO THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
THE TOWNSHIP WOULD THEN REACH OUT TO AN HOA AND SAY, HEY LOOK, YOU NEED TO FIX THIS.
YOU NEED TO REPAIR THIS, THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG.
WE WOULD GO OUT AND WE'D LOOK AT IT.
WE'D SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO FIX THIS.
THIS IS WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING WRONG? IF THEY DID IT GREAT, EVERYTHING'S WONDERFUL.
IF THEY DON'T DO IT, THE TOWNSHIP'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO FIX IT.
WELL, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AGAIN, THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF THE TOWNSHIP HAS TO GO OUT AND FIX IT, IF PUBLIC WORKS HAS TO GO OUT AND REPAIR SOMETHING, OR IF SOMETHING IS REPLACED AND WE HAVE TO DO CONSTRUCTION ON IT, THEN WE WOULD LEAN THE PROPERTY TO PAY FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN PRACTICE THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
BUT WE ALSO HAVEN'T HAD TO REPAIR ANY BASINS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING A LOT OF INSPECTIONS.
GETTING AT IS LIKE, ARE IS IT A A, UH, A SELF MANAGEMENT THING WHERE THE HOMEOWNERS ARE EXPECTED TO LOOK THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATIONS YES.
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YES.ARE EXPECTED TO SAY, OH, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
WELL, A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION IS EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN BASINS.
WHETHER OR NOT HOW THEY DO THAT IS NOT, THERE ISN'T LIKE A, UH, A SPECIFIC RULE OR A SPECIFIC TIMETABLE THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THAT.
THEY JUST HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEM.
AND THEN IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND WE HEAR ABOUT IT, WE APPROACH THEM.
WE'RE BEING A LITTLE PROACTIVE.
ONE OF OUR SUPERVISORS THIS YEAR HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR THIS.
MR. PEARSON HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR IT PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT.
A LITTLE BIT AT YOUR URGING, UM,
I DON'T KNOW IF I NECESSARILY AGREE WITH 'EM OR NOT, BUT I THINK AN INSPECTION PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THAT'S WORTHWHILE.
AND SO I THINK THERE WAS EITHER MONEY IN THE BUDGET OR THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN PUBLIC WORKS HAD THE TIME THEY WOULD DO IT OR OUR TOWNSHIP ENGINEER WOULD DO IT.
NOW YOU'RE SAYING PUBLIC WORKS HAS ALREADY GOT AN AGENDA OR GOT SOME SORT OF DIRECTION IN THAT WAY? THEY'RE STARTING WITH EVERYTHING EAST OF 29.
SO THAT'S THE OLD OAK SECTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE OLDER SUBDIVISIONS AND DEVELOPMENTS IN THE TOWNSHIP.
I, THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY STARTED WITH THERE WAS, I, I WASN'T IN THE MEETING TO DETERMINE THAT.
THAT'S JUST WHERE THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO START.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT PROCESS.
SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF WE'RE GOING TO START LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THAT OR, OR HAVING SOMEONE TALK TO US ABOUT IT, UM, WE CAN PROBABLY PICK OUT A LOT OF BAD EXAMPLES.
WHAT'S WAS PENN STATE OFFERING A SERVICE THROUGH THAT? THAT, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT IF YOU KNOW OF SOMETHING, PLEASE FORWARD IT MY WAY.
I'LL GET IT TO THE, WE'LL GET IT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
AND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PAPERS? YEAH.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT GO ONLINE.
I'M SURE THEY'RE, I SAY, UM, AS THE, THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY REP ON, ON THIS BOARD, UM, I'M, I KNOW AT OUR MEETING, UM, IT'S ALWAYS AN AGENDA ITEM.
SO AFTER OUR MEETING NEXT MONTH, UM, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU MEAN THE, THE BASE? YEAH.
AND JUST, AND PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE, THE PUBLIC WORKS ARE, ARE DOING BASED ON, ON STORM WATER STUFF.
SO, UM, AFTER THAT MEETING, I'D BE HAPPY TO REPORT BACK TO OH YEAH.
YOU KNOW, SEND AN EMAIL OUT, LIKE WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT TOPIC SPECIFICALLY.
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT? THIS IS GENERAL DISCUSSIONS.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO GENERAL DISCUSS.
SO IF, UM, IF, IF WE'RE NOT, IF THAT'S IT, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH.
THE, UM, SORRY, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT DATE.
IT'S MARCH THE, UH, I THINK IT'S MARCH 15TH.
UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TIME IN BETWEEN THESE MEETINGS, I, I REALLY, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO DISCUSS WHAT SHOULD BE ON THE NEXT MEETING, BUT WE WILL LOOK AT HAVING ANOTHER EAC MEMBER COME IN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE, UH, SEMINAR OVER PHOENIXVILLE, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT.
AND IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH ANYTHING IN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN REACH OUT TO SARAH AND I.
AND THEN, UM, IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP, IF YOU FIND ANOTHER SPEAKER, IF YOU FIND SOMETHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, WITH MOST OF THESE SPEAKERS, WE PROBABLY DON'T WANNA OVERBURDEN THEM FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
20 MINUTES, HALF AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE TRY TO KEEP IT PRETTY LOOSEY GOOSEY.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, AND, UH, SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT A PLAN FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO TRY TO GET SOME SPEAKERS OR SPEAKER IN HERE AND, UH, START, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY BILL'S PROJECT AS A EXCITING ONE FOR US TO LOOK AT.
AND, UM, IF WITH THAT SAYING, I'LL TAKE A, A, A, UH, A MOTION TO ADJOURN, UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER TOPICS ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT, I MOTION TO ADJOURN.