Jan 17, 2023 Board of Supervisors

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TOOR TO APPROVE THE BOARD AGENDA.

I'M GONNA ASK, UH, MR. TERRY MCKENNA TO COME FORWARD.

AND, UH,

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I WANT TO THANK, UH, TERRY MCKENNA, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE TOWNSHIP FOR 24 YEARS OF SERVICE ON THE UPPER PROVIDENCE ZONING HEARING BOARD AS A MEMBER SERVING AS CHAIRMAN FOR MORE THAN THE PAST DECADE FROM HIS APPOINTMENT IN SEPTEMBER, 1999, AND HIS FIRST DECISION IN JANUARY, 2000 TO HIS LAST DECISION IN DECEMBER, 2022.

MR. MCKENNA HAS SERVED THIS TOWNSHIP TO THE BEST OF HIS ABILITY.

WE THANK HIM FOR HIS TIME AND HIS SERVICE TO UPPER PROVIDENCE.

AS WELL, AND HIS BEAUTIFUL WIFE, TAMMY, UH, HERE IN THE FRONT ROW.

AND, UH, NOW I'M GONNA TURN OVER THE AGENDA TO, UH, CHIEF FREEMAN.

GOOD EVENING, I APOLOGIZE.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

I HAD SET THIS MICROPHONE UP FOR ME, AND I SAW YOU STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT, SO I, I APOLOGIZE.

UM, BUT I HAVE THE PLEASURE THIS EVENING TO, UH, DO TWO THINGS, ACTUALLY.

ONE IS RECOGNIZED, ONE OF MY OFFICERS FOR 30 YEARS OF SERVICE, AND THE OTHER IS TO PARTICIPATE IN RECOGNITION OF, UM, A FIRE E M S AND ANOTHER ONE OF MY OFFICERS FOR A JOB WELL DONE ON AN INCIDENT THAT I'M GONNA DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT LATER.

BUT FIRST, I'D LIKE TO, TO, UM, RECOGNIZE, UH, SERGEANT ROBERT SOLARIO.

SERGEANT SOLARIO, UH, STARTED IN, UH, A LONG TIME AGO, 30 YEARS AGO, , UH, 1992.

AND, UH, ROB COMES FROM A, A FAMILY OF PUBLIC SERVANTS.

HIS FATHER, WHO'S IN SEATED HERE TODAY, MR. SOLARIO.

GOOD TO SEE YA.

UH, RETIRED FROM THE PLYMOUTH TOWNSHIP POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, HIS BROTHER RETIRED FROM THE PLYMOUTH TOWNSHIP POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO HE COMES FROM A FAMILY OF, UH, OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND, AND PUBLIC SERVANTS, UH, WHICH IS VERY COMMENDABLE.

30 YEARS IN AND OF ITSELF.

I IS VERY COMMENDABLE.

30 YEARS, ANYWHERE IS A LONG TIME, BUT HIS CAREER HAS REALLY BEEN STELLAR.

UH, HE CAME A YEAR AFTER I DID.

SO OUR CAREERS KIND OF, UM, MIMICKED EACH OTHER.

WE BOTH GOT DEPORTED, UH, UM, PROMOTED TO CORPORAL, UH, THEN SERGEANT, UH, AND HIS CURRENT RANK, HIS SERGEANT.

UM, BUT HE, HE SERVED ON THE SWAT TEAM FOR 20 YEARS.

HE'S CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN THE, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, ENGAGEMENT UNIT, WHICH ESSENTIALLY HIS JOB IS TO GO AROUND SOLVING, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND HE'S BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT.

UM, HE IS A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HE'S QUITE THE CELEBRITY, ACTUALLY, UH, DOWN IN OAKS ELEMENTARY, TO SAY THE LEAST.

HE'S THERE EVERY FRIDAY, UH, DOING HIGH FIVE FRIDAYS.

UH, THEY CELEBRATED DOWN THERE ACTUALLY, UM, UH, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO, HIS 30 YEARS, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING FOR HIM TOO.

SO, WE'RE VERY HONORED AND GRATEFUL THAT HE'S BEEN WITH US FOR 30 YEARS.

AND, UH, ROB, WHEN YOU COME ON UP, WE HAVE A PLAQUE FOR HIM TO RECOGNIZE THAT HE'S A MAN OF FEW WORDS, BUT YOU GONNA SAY ANYTHING? NO.

? I DIDN'T THINK SO.

UH, BUT ALSO, BEFORE I GET INTO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MRS. SOLARIO

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I'VE KNOWN THEM THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I'VE KNOWN SERGEANT SOLARIO, THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR BROTHER, UM, FANTASTIC, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL FAMILY.

UH, THE PLAQUE READS AN APPRECIATION FOR 30 YEARS OF DEDICATED AND OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH SERVICE IN PATROL, SWAT, FIREARMS UNIT, CRASH INVESTIGATION UNIT, MOTOR UNIT, DRONE PROGRAM, AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

SO, AGAIN, ROB, UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON JOB.

WELL DONE.

THANK, THANK I'VE ALWAYS, UM, CHERISHED UP.

THE PROVINCE.

CAME HERE IN 92.

UM, AGAIN, MARK AND I PRETTY MUCH WENT THROUGH FOR THE RANKS.

HE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE A BROTHER TO ME JUST GOING THROUGH HERE.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT SWAT TEAM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TOWNSHIP HAS ALWAYS TREATED ME REALLY GOOD.

I'VE ALWAYS LOVED HERE.

I'VE MOVED INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND, UH, I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST.

EVERY PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY, OUR YOUNGER GENERATION WANT THEM TO GROW UP AND RESPECT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THEIR FRIENDS, BUT REALLY, I WANT THANK MY WIFE.

SHE'S THE ONE SUPPORT, UH, YOU MY JOB.

BARBARA GONZALEZ REPORTED THAT HER HUSBAND, DAVID DAVID GONZALEZ, WAS UNCONSCIOUS AND DISPLAYED AGONAL BREATHING.

THE, UM, THE SECOND, UH, RECOGNITION TODAY IS GONNA BE A LIFESAVING, UH, RECOGNITION AWARD.

UM, AND I WANTED TO DESCRIBE THE INCIDENT TO YOU, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM DOING THIS JOB AS LONG AS ROB AND A LITTLE BIT LONGER, UM, WHEN WE, WE DO THIS JOB FOR MANY REASONS, UH, MOST OF US GETTING THIS JOB BECAUSE WE WANT TO GIVE BACK AND WE WANT TO SERVE.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY, UH, PUT YOUR SKILLS IN TRAINING, UH, IN A POSITION TO SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE, THAT IS ONE OF THE GREATEST FEELINGS ONE COULD EVER, UH, UM, ENCOUNTER.

SO I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE HERE TODAY, UH, INCLUDING THE FAMILY.

UM, BUT HERE'S THE INCIDENT.

ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 12TH, 2022, AT APPROXIMATELY 5:33 PM EMS, FIRE AND POLICE WERE DISPATCHED AT 5 98 BUR LINE ROAD, LOCATED IN THE COLLEGEVILLE SECTION OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.

FOR THE REPORT OF A CARDIAC ARREST.

BARBARA BEGAN PERFORMING CPR UNTIL EMERGENCY PERSONNEL ARRIVED.

IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP FIRE CHIEF MIKE RIFFLE, WAS, UH, IN THE AREA AND ARRIVED ON THE SCENE AND ASSUME CPR FROM HER UNTIL UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE OFFICER, UH, SERGEANT SCOTT REYNOLDS ARRIVED WITH THE AUTOMATED, UH, EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATOR.

AND A E D SERGEANT REYNOLDS OPENED THE DEVICE, AND CHIEF RUSSELL APPLIED THE PADS.

AND SERGEANT REYNOLDS ADMINISTERED ONE SHOCK TO DAVID GONZALEZ.

CHIEF RUSSELL TOOK COMMAND OF THE SCENE AND DIRECTED ARRIVING FIRE AND EMS PERSONNEL TO RESUME CHEST COMPRESSIONS AND RESCUE BREATHING PARAMEDIC BILL REESE.

OH, I'M SAYING THAT RIGHT.

AND EMT MORGAN REESE DELIVERED LIFESAVING MEDICATIONS AND ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT INTERVENTIONS WITH ASSISTANCE FROM UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP, FIREFIGHTER SLASH EMT, STEVE MCCOY, TRAP FIRE COMPANY ENGINEER RICK SCHROEDER AND TOWNSHIP FIRE COMPANY LIEUTENANT SLASH EMT STEVE CINI.

THROUGH THE INCREDIBLE EFFORTS OF BARBARA GONZALEZ AND THE RESPONDERS ON SCENE, DAVID GONZALEZ IS HEART BEGAN TO BEAT CORRECTLY, RESULTING IN THE RETURN OF SPONTANEOUS CIRCULATION.

DAVID GONZALEZ WAS ULTIMATELY TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE HE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL MEDICAL TREATMENT.

DAVID WAS ABLE TO RECOVER AND WAS HOME AS SOON AS TWO DAYS LATER.

DAVID IS HERE TONIGHT WITH HIS WIFE, BARBARA.

TONIGHT WE WANT TO CELEBRATE THE TREMENDOUS SERVICE AND TEAMWORK PUT ON DISPLAY BY ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND ESPECIALLY BARBARA GONZALEZ THIS'S, UH, HEROIC ACTIONS.

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I KNOW, UH, MR. GONZALEZ WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

UH, MR. GONZALEZ, YOU WANT TO COME UP, SIR? NICE TO SEE YOU.

UH, DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? UH, WHAT HE JUST SAID, BROUGHT A FEW TEARS TO MY EYES, AND I HAVE, I HAVE TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT, THAT WAS INVOLVED IN MY RESCUE.

UH, MY WIFE AND I, WE ARE BOTH PUBLIC SERVICE SERVANTS AS WELL IN, IN, IN, IN OUR PROFESSIONS, BUT NOT THE TYPE OF PUBLIC SERVICE THAT INVOLVES RISK IN OUR LIVES.

I'M A, I'VE BEEN A, A PHYSIOLOGY TEACHER, UH, FOR QUITE A WHILE AT TWO DIFFERENT COLLEGES AND FINISHED MY CAREER UP AT MANCO.

UH, MY WIFE IS, SHE WORKS FOR, UH, AS A SUBCONTRACTOR FOR HOMELAND SECURITY, LOOKING FOR BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS.

UH, SO WITH THAT, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN, IN SAVING MY LIFE.

I HOPE TO CONTINUE CONTRIBUTING IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE IT IN, IN ALL, ALL THE EMTS, UH, THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED.

YOU KNOW, LOOK, LOOK AT ME.

I'M HERE.

YOU KNOW, I ALMOST DIED.

UH, MAN, I LOVE YOU ALL.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU, AND I LOVE YOU.

SO, UH, ONE MORE THING.

UH, ON MY SECOND TRIP TO THE HOSPITAL, I, I GOT TO MEET AN E M T WHOSE SHIRT I GRABBED AND HELD ON BECAUSE I WAS IN SUCH SEVERE PAIN.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE BOTH MY, MY VEINS AND MY LEFT ARM GOT OCCLUDED.

SO I HAD TO TAKE ANOTHER TRIP TO THE HOSPITAL, SPEND A FEW MORE DAYS, AND I PROMISED HIM THAT I'D GIVE HIM MY LECTURES.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HERE TODAY OR NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE MY LECTURES AND MY, MY MEDICAL STUDENTS AND MY NURSING STUDENTS TEST TESTIFY TO THEM.

IF HE'S NOT HERE, THEN I'M WILLING TO GIVE 'EM TO ANYBODY ELSE CUZ HE CAN ALWAYS PICK UP A COPY.

UH, THEY'RE FREE.

AND LIKE I SAID, MY, MY NURSES STUDENTS IN PARTICULAR REALLY TESTIFIED TO THEM.

SO, WITH THAT, THANKS AGAIN.

HELLO.

UM, MY NAME IS BARBARA GONZALEZ.

UM, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE 9 1 1 RESPONSE TO MY HOME IN OCTOBER.

UM, THE 9 1 1 OPERATOR WAS AMAZING.

UM, HE TALKED ME THROUGH C P R.

I'VE NEVER PERFORMED C P R.

UM, I, I, HE WAS JUST AMAZING AND HE KEPT ME FOCUSED.

I, I DUNNO HOW HE, HE DID THAT, BUT HE DID IT.

UM, EMERGENCY SERVICES GOT THERE REALLY, REALLY QUICKLY.

UM, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY IN HIS CASE, ABSOLUTELY VITAL TO MY HUSBAND.

NOT ONLY SURVIVING, BUT HE IS, THERE'S JUST NO RE NO REPERCUSSIONS, WHICH IS COMPLETELY AMAZING.

UM, AND ALSO MY THANKS TO THOSE IN THE AMBULANCE WHO WERE WITH HIM WHILE HE WAS BEING TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL AND KEEPING HIM STABLE.

AND SO HE GOT THERE.

UM, IT WAS A TRAUMATIC DAY.

I WILL NEVER EVER FORGET WHAT HAPPENED.

UM, BUT WHAT A DIFFERENCE YOU ALL MADE.

UM, I'VE COME TO REALIZE THAT THE OUTCOME THAT WE GOT WAS, UM, COULD HAVE BEEN SO VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.

SO VERY EASILY DIFFERENT BASED ON MY HUSBAND'S INJURIES.

UM, AND THAT WAS DUE TO EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED, AND THAT'S WHY WE GOT SUCH A POSITIVE OUTCOME.

UM, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT YOUR JOBS CAN BE SO VERY DIFFICULT AT TIMES.

UM, BUT IT'S SO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, AND YOU TRULY MADE A DIFFERENCE.

SO I'D LIKE TO CALL UP EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT, UH, RESPONSE.

UH, SERGEANT, UH, SCOTT REYNOLDS, WOULD YOU COME UP PLEASE? FREEDOM VALLEY MEDICAL RESCUE PARAMEDIC, UH, BILL REESE AND FREEDOM VALLEY MEDICAL RESCUE, EMT MORGAN REECE, UH, UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP, FIRE CHIEF MIKE GRISEL, UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP, FIREFIGHTER AND EMT.

STEVE MCCOY, TRAP FIRE COMPANY ENGINEER RICK SCHROEDER, UM, AND FIRE OR TRAP FIRE COMPANY, LIEUTENANT STEVE SENA

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AND ALSO DEPUTY CHIEF.

UH, TOM LING'S GONNA HELP ME HAND OUT THESE, UH, AWARDS.

YOU GOT MORE? OKAY.

I'M SORRY, MR. AND MS. GONZALEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME BACK UP SO WE CAN GET A PICTURE TOGETHER? BUT I'D REALLY LIKE TO, TO THANK ALL OF THESE FIRST RESPONDERS HERE FOR A TREMENDOUS JOB AND TREMENDOUS TEAMWORK.

UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE PRIDE OURSELVES HERE IN UPPER PROVIDENCE.

WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME, EVEN IN STAFF MEETINGS AND THE, THE SUPERVISORS.

UH, NOT EVERY TOWNSHIP IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE THE CAMARADERIE AND THE COOPERATION AND THE TEAMWORK THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE HERE WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS, OUR, UH, CAREER FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR EMTS.

AND, UH, WE JUST AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAN THE CHIEF, WE, I COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF THAT RELATIONSHIP.

AND, UH, WE CONTINUE TO FOSTER THAT IN EVERY WAY THAT WE CAN.

UH, SO CONGRATULATIONS.

IT'S YOUR JOB.

WELL DONE.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET US ALL IN, BUT GET SOMEONE, UH, TAKE A PICTURE.

THE SHOT.

UH, COME TO THE PORTION OF OUR MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND I CAN SEE THERE'S LOTS OF FOLKS THAT WANNA MAKE COMMENT TO THE BOARD TONIGHT, AND THAT'S WONDERFUL.

THEN JUST IN KEEPING WITH THE THEME OF, UH, THE TEAMWORK OF ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES PROVIDERS, WE ALSO HAVE A UNIT CITATION TO PRESENT TO A PLATOON FROM THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP, DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, AND ALSO THE TRAP FIRE COMPANY.

THERE WERE PLENTY OF RESPONDERS ON SCENE.

UM, THESE WERE THE FOLKS ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH PATIENT CARE, AND THERE'S OTHER ROLES THAT WERE FILLED AT THAT TIME.

SO IF, UH, CAPTAIN GREENWOOD COULD COME UP FROM TRAP AND THE, UH, CAPTAIN FROM A PLATOON WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT OUT TODAY.

SO WE'LL HANG ON TO THIS AND PRESENT THAT TO HIM LATER.

BUT, UH, ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR JUST THE TEAMWORK THAT WENT ON.

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ALL RIGHT, WE'VE,

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

AND I THINK I KNOW WHAT THE MAIN TOPIC'S GONNA BE, AND THAT'S WONDERFUL TOO.

UM, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, UM, WE ARE RECEIVING YOUR EMAILS.

I RECEIVED THE 30 PLUS OVER THE WEEKEND, PLUS THE 110 THAT I HAD ALREADY RECEIVED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

THE SCORE IS STILL 100% TO ZERO AS FAR AS RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO SEE THE, A PLAN DEVELOPED A PARKHOUSE AS PRESENTED.

SO WE KNOW WHAT THE SCORE IS, AND, UH, WE'RE ALL EARS.

WE'RE LISTENING TO ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.

I WILL ASK THOUGH THAT EVERYONE PLEASE TRY TO, TO KEEP YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES.

AND IF YOU DO THE MATH, THREE MINUTES, 20 PEOPLE, THAT'S AN HOUR.

THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME I'M GONNA ALLOW TONIGHT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS ON OUR AGENDA.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO ABOUT AN HOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO FOLKS WANNA START LINING UP.

PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE, EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO HOLD THE MICROPHONE CLOSE TO YOUR, YOUR FACE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE BE, BEFORE WE START, UM, I ASK THE SOLICITOR IF HE WOULD, UM, UH, EXPLAIN, UM, THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS FOR, I GIVE HIM A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS TO EVERYONE.

I'M SURE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON PARKHOUSE THIS EVENING.

SURE.

QUESTIONS THAT WERE TOO PROSECUTORIAL SOUNDING.

GO AHEAD, JOHN.

THE, UH, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT IT ALSO COVERED A LOT OF OTHER GROUNDS.

SO THERE WAS A LOT TO TAKE IN ALL AT ONE TIME.

THERE'S ONE PART OF THE PROCESS THAT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN, AGAIN, MOSTLY IN RESPONSE TO, UM, PEOPLE'S COMMENTS THAT WERE ALONG THE LINES OF, AND I UNDERSTAND IT, OF SAYING, FIGHT FOR US.

DO SOMETHING FOR US.

UM, DON'T ROLL OVER THE COMMENTS OF THAT NATURE.

A CONDITIONAL USE HEARING IS A PIECE OF LITIGATION.

IT HAS A BEGINNING AND AN END.

THERE'S A FIRST WITNESS WHO'S CALLED, AND THEN THERE'S A LAST WITNESS WHO TESTIFIES.

AND THEN THE EVIDENCE IS SUMMARIZED.

THEN THE BOARD HAS 45 DAYS FROM THAT DAY TO RENDER A DECISION EITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE APPLICATION.

THE APPLICANT WILL BE STRICTLY HELD TO ITS BURDEN, AND IT'S THEIR BURDEN TO PROVE THAT THEY MEET ALL THE CRITERIA OF THE ORDINANCE.

IF THEY PROVE THE CASE, THEY GET APPROVAL.

IF THEY, IF FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER THEY DON'T PROVE THE CASE, THEN THEY DON'T.

UM, I, I MADE A STATEMENT EARLIER THAT TO THE STAFF AND TO ME, SUPERFICIALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY MEET THE CRITERIA, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY MEET THE CRITERIA AT THE HEARING.

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS EXCEPT FOR WHAT HAPPENS AT THE HEARING, BECAUSE THAT RECORD OF WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT HEARING IS WHAT GOES UP ON APPEAL TO GET REVIEWED INTO THAT COURT REVIEW.

UM, SO IT'S ALL ABOUT THE HEARING.

UM, I SAID TO A COUPLE OF THE SUPERVISORS RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, I STATED THAT MY OPINION BEFORE THAT THE EAGLES WOULD BEAT THE SAINTS.

WELL, IT WAS THE, IT WAS THE MAJORITY OPINION, IT WAS THE OPINION OF LAS VEGAS.

IT WAS THE OPINION OF MOST PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD WIN THAT GAME, BUT THEY DIDN'T WIN THAT GAME.

THE GAME STILL HAS TO BE PLAYED.

THE HEARING STILL HAS TO BE HELD.

SO WHAT THE LAW TELLS US IS THAT THE SUPERVISORS HAVE TO PROVIDE A FAIR HEARING.

THAT MEANS NOT TAKING A POSITION IN ADVANCE.

IT MEANS THEY CAN'T SAY THINGS LIKE, WE WILL DENY IT OR WE'RE ON YOUR SIDE.

SO WE WILL DENY IT.

THEY'LL DECIDE THE CASE ON THE BASIS OF WHAT THE EVIDENCE SAYS.

NOW THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT, AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THEY MAY WELL EXERCISE THE RIGHT TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ATTORNEY.

SO I WOULD BE HERE REPRESENTING THE BOARD, AND ANOTHER ATTORNEY CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE TO THE BOARD, UH, WITH, WITH A STAFF OR TOWNSHIP POINT OF VIEW, OR ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE THAT, THAT THE TOWNSHIP THINKS THE BOARD NEEDS TO DECIDE THE CASE.

SO IT'S NOT AS THOUGH, UM, THERE WON'T BE SOME VOICE ON BEHALF OF THE TOWNSHIP.

AND THERE'S ALSO, ANYBODY ELSE CAN PARTICIPATE AS A PARTY WHO, UH, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHES AT THE HEARING THAT THEY HAVE STANDING, WHICH MOST PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD PROBABLY GET STANDING IF THEY WERE TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS ON THIS ISSUE.

SO THERE, THERE IS A, A FIGHT AHEAD AT THE CONDITIONAL USE HEARING.

BUT THE, BECAUSE THE BOARD IS SITTING AS THE COURT, THERE ARE CASES WHERE THE, THEY WERE REVERSED BECAUSE THEY WERE BIASED.

THERE ARE EVEN, THERE'S EVEN A CASE WHERE THEY GOT REVERSED BECAUSE THE SOLICITOR ASKED

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THE BOARD IS THE COURT, WHICH MEANS THE BOARD IS, WILL NEUTRALLY DECIDE THE EVIDENCE THAT'S PRESENTED TO THEM, AND THE APPLICANT HAS TO MEET THEIR BURDEN.

SO IT PUTS THE BOARD IN A DIFFICULT POSITION WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR THE BOARD SAY, WE'RE GONNA FIGHT OR WE'RE GONNA DENY.

AND IF THEY DON'T SAY THAT, THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DON'T CARE.

MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD, THAT THIS IS A CLEAN, EVEN BALANCED FORUM FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE EVIDENCE, SO THAT WE'RE NOT HANDING A VICTORY TO THE APPLICANT WITHOUT EVEN GETTING TO THE MERITS SOLELY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL HEARING.

AND THEY WILL GET AN IMPARTIAL HEARING, BUT THEY, THEY WILL BE HELD TO THEIR STANDARD.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE WAR CASE, WELL, MY LEGAL ADVICE TO THE BOARD IS THE WAR CASE APPLIES.

YOU CAN'T IGNORE IT.

YOU CAN'T SAY, WELL, IT'S OVER A WAR SISTER, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT'S A PUBLISHED STATE COURT CASE.

NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE DIFFERENTIATED.

MAY MAYBE, MAYBE THE EVIDENCE THAT THE APPLICANT PRESENTS WILL OPEN SOME OTHER DOOR THAT WE CAN'T EVEN ANTICIPATE RIGHT NOW.

CUZ THEY DON'T HAVE TO PRESENT THE EVIDENCE IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING.

THEY ONLY HAVE TO PRESENT IT AT THE HEARING.

SO IN THE COURSE OF THEM PROVING THEIR CASE, THEY MAY WELL CREATE SOME FACTUAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN HERE IN WAS THAT CAUSES A DENIAL OF WHAT THEY'RE SEEKING.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.

SO I, I THINK JOHN ASKED THAT I MAKE THESE COMMENTS IN ADVANCE, NOT BECAUSE ANYBODY'S COMMENTS DON'T MATTER, BUT I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THEM WERE GEARED TOWARDS, UH, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING AND FIGHT.

AND THAT'S NOT THE HAT THAT THE BOARD WEARS ON THE CONDITIONAL USE.

THEY ARE NOT WEARING FIGHT HATS.

THEY'RE WEARING JUDICIAL HATS, ESSENTIALLY JUDICIAL ROBES.

AND THAT'S WHY THE COMMENTS ARE AT MY REQUEST ARE MORE SUBDUED THAN WHAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR, WHO THINK THAT THEY'RE ELECTED PEOPLE ARE IGNORING THEM OR NOT DOING ALL THEY CAN.

IT'S BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE NATURE OF A CONDITIONAL USE HEARING.

SHOULD THE INSTITUTIONAL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES BE REVISED AS A RESULT OF LEGISLATIVE OR ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS OR JUDICIAL DECISION? THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS APPLICABLE TO THE AREA IN QUESTION SHALL REVERT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF THIS ARTICLE, WHICH TO ME, THAT MY INTERPRETATION IS SINCE IT WAS SUBDIVIDED THAT CREATED NEW BOUNDARIES, WHICH THEN WOULD REMOVE THE I N OVERLAY, MAKING IT REVERT BACK TO OSC.

JOE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

WE NEED YOUR NAME, YOUR STREET ADDRESS, AND THEN MAKE YOUR COMMENTS PLEASE.

KRISTEN TROUTMAN 1320 BLACKROCK ROAD.

I DID AT 10, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN DECEMBER.

IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I SAW THE PLAN AND IT WAS HARD.

I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE ALL HAD IT FOR A LONG TIME.

UM, AND AFTER TONIGHT, I'M THINKING WE SHOULD TALK TO SERGEANT SOLARIO ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES IN THE TOWNSHIP, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA NEGATIVELY IMPACT EVERYBODY.

UM, THE MAIN REASON I'M HERE IS I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE ACTUAL ZONING OF THIS PARCEL.

UH, I KNOW ON THE TOWNSHIP MAP IT'S ZONED OSC, OPEN SPACE CONSERVATION.

UM, MY HUSBAND AND I, AS A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE KNOW, HAVE BEEN COMING TO TOWNSHIP MEETINGS FOR TOO LONG.

UM, AND BACK WHENEVER IT WAS 2013 OR AT SOME POINT, AN INSTITUTIONAL OVERLAY WAS PUT ON VARIOUS PARCELS AROUND THE TOWNSHIP.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS NOT LISTED UNDER YOUR INSTITUTIONAL OVERLAY.

UH, I WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE.

THERE'S ABOUT TWO PAGES OF THEM IN THE OFFICIAL TOWNSHIP DOCUMENTS.

UM, THE ONE THAT IS THERE IS CURRENTLY 32 POINT WHATEVER ACRES, WHICH IS WHERE PARKHOUSE THE NURSING HOME ACTUALLY SITS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY WAS SUBDIVIDED.

THERE'S NO LISTING OF THE NEW PARCEL, WHICH IS THE 176 OR 180 ACRES.

UM, THE COUNTY DESCRIPTION HAS IT LISTED AS VACANT LAND, AND THE PROPERTY DESCRIPTION STATES IT'S COMMERCIAL MISCELLANEOUS SLASH VARIED.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER IS CURRENTLY PROPOSING ABOUT 1200 UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY, WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL.

NOW, FROM WHAT I'VE READ IN THE TOWNSHIP ORDINANCES IN OSC AND IN I N RESIDENTIAL IS NOT ALLOWED.

THAT'S, THAT'S IN YOUR, YOUR TEXT EVEN UNDER CONDITIONAL USE RESIDENTIAL IS NOT ALLOWED IN THESE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS.

NOW, LIKE I SAID, I WAS AT THE MEETING, MR. MULLIN TALKED ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE ASSISTED LIVING IN THE CORNER, THAT THAT'S GONNA CREATE THE INSTITUTIONAL THING AND THAT ALL THESE HOMES ARE GONNA BE PERSONAL CARE HOMES OR NURSING HOMES.

UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE PRIVATE HOMES.

AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, MOST PRIVATE REAL ESTATE SALES ARE FEE SIMPLE.

SO IS EVERY ONE OF THESE 1200 UNITS GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A, A NURSING HOME LICENSE IF THEY'RE EACH INDIVIDUALLY OWNED PROPERTIES? TO ME, THEY WOULD HAVE TO EACH BE LICENSED.

UM, AND BACK TO THE SUBDIVISION PART, UM, IN THE I N UH, IT'S PARAGRAPH B,

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IF NOT, WE WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CURRENT PLAN IS STILL THE 2010 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IS THE CURRENT PLAN.

THANK YOU MS. TROUTMAN.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

I'M A LITTLE SHORTER, SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK I HEAR YOU .

UM, MY NAME IS VICTORIA BRIGHT, UH, 360 4 VISTA DRIVE, PHOENIXVILLE.

I LIVE IN THE RIVERS BEND COMMUNITY ON, UH, OFF OF DRIV BEST ROAD, UH, BETWEEN ONE 13 SECOND AVENUE THAT, UH, CORNER.

UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A RESIDENT OF THE TOWNSHIP, BUT ALSO REPRESENTING A GROUP OF CONCERNED NEIGHBORS OPPOSED TO THE PARKHOUSE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL.

AS RESIDENTS OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP, WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DEFEND THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND VOTE NO WHEN THAT COMES TO YOU.

UH, ON THE APPROVAL OF THE PARKHOUSE PLAN, WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, HAS PROPOSED 1,203 UNITS.

IN DOING OUR RESEARCH WITH OTHER CONCERNED RESIDENTS, WE OBJECT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

THE PROPOSED PLAN CLEARLY DOES NOT CONFORM WITH PRO UPPER PROVIDENCE'S ZONING CODE.

ARTICLE 11, INSTITUTIONAL DISTRICT CODE NOW STATES LICENSED NURSING CONVALESCENT HOMES, RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITIES FOR SENIOR CI CITIZENS PERSONAL CARE, HOME ASSISTED LIVING RESIDENCE, OR ADULT CARE IF IN THE SAME BUILDING AS A PERSONAL CARE HOME OR ASSISTED LIVING RESIDENCE.

THIS READS AND IS MEANT IN ITS ENTIRETY AS A LICENSED PROGRAM.

LICENSED MEANING LICENSED NURSING HOME, LICENSED RESIDENTIAL CARE, LICENSED FACILITIES LIKE ASSISTED LIVING.

THE PROPOSAL IS NOT PROPOSING A LICENSED CONTINUING CARE FACILITY OR COMMUNITY.

THIS PARCEL OF LAND IS SEPARATE FROM PARKHOUSE NURSING HOME AND WOULD REQUIRE ITS OWN SEPARATE CONDITIONS AND LICENSURE FROM THE P PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, UNLESS THE DEVELOPERS PRELIMINARY PLAN IS BEING CHANGED AS WE SPEAK.

WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED IS A HIGH DENSE, HIGH DENSITY HOUSING COMMUNITY WITH A 45 BED ASSISTED LIVING UNIT POINTED TO IN THE CORNER.

ZA RESIDENTIAL CARE COMMUNITY PER THE 2,600 REGULATIONS FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES REQUIRES THE ENTIRETY OF THE FACILITY TO BE LICENSED.

AS IT STANDS, THE OWNER IS SAYING THAT ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF THE 1,203 UNITS ARE SENIOR UNIT'S.

APARTMENTS WOULD BE ASSISTED LIVING IN ORDER TO MEET YOUR ZONING.

ALL OF THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, MULTI-DWELLING UNITS, TOWNHOUSES, APARTMENTS, WOULD REQUIRE LICENSURE TO MEET THE CONDITIONAL USE DEF DEFINITION WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP ORDINANCE.

NOTHING LESS THAN THAT, EVEN IN A SMALLER PORTION OF 414 SENIOR APARTMENTS, IF THEY WERE LICENSED, THIS WOULD SIMPLY JUST BE A HIGH DENSITY HOUSING COMMUNITY NEXT TO A LICENSED ASSISTED LIVING UNIT.

IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING, AS WE'VE HEARD FROM, UH, SOLICITOR RESIDENT, THAT CONDITIONAL USE IS THE BURDEN OF PROOF FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IS WHAT DETAIL TO DOCUMENTS AND PROPOSAL HAS THE OWNER PROVIDED TO THE TOWNSHIP THAT YOU HAVE PERSONALLY REVIEWED OR WILL BE REVIEWING TO DETERMINE THAT THE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING CODES? IF THE DOCUMENTS EXIST, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM.

THEY WERE NOT PRESENTED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN DECEMBER, AND ONLY A PRELIMINARY SKETCH PLAN WAS SHARED.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS PRELIMINARY.

THE PLANS IN THE PROPOSAL SHOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC VIEWING.

UH, THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING QUESTION IS, IS, IS IS IT BY APPOINTMENT ONLY OR UPON REQUEST? I THINK A FEW PEOPLE WANNA SEE THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL.

DOES THE TOWNSHIP HAVE AN ADOPTED 2020 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THAT IS A QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE A FINAL ADOPTED 2020 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? IF SO, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT.

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SO HOW IS THE 2010 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONGRUENT WITH THE PLAN TO DEVELOP SENIOR HOUSING AND RESIDENTIAL CARE COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP? WHERE WOULD I FIND THAT PLAN? UM, IN THE 1222 OR IN THE DECEMBER, UH, SEVENTH, UH, MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE WAR STER DECISION CERTAINLY WAS REFERENCED.

IN DECEMBER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, I VOICED MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TOWNSHIP.

THIS IS A MAJOR CONCERN OF OUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

IF THIS IS BUILT APPROXIMATELY 1200 HOUSING UNITS WITH APPROXIMATELY TWO PERSONS TO EACH UNIT, THE INCREASE OF THE POPULATION WILL BE BY 10% OF THIS TOWNSHIP.

IT'S TAXING AND ALREADY STRAINED INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR CLO ROADS, INCREASING THE NEED FOR MORE FIRE, EMS, POLICE SERVICES, RAISING OUR TAXES AND AFFECTING THE PROPERTY VALUES.

THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY SUBSTANTIAL AT ROUTE ONE 13 IN THE SECOND AVENUE IN DRIVEBYS ROAD.

I TAKE MY LIFE IN MY HANDS EVERY DAY.

I COME OUT, GO TO WORK, AND COME HOME EVERY DAY.

WE ALSO NOTICE THAT THERE WAS A RECENT CHANGE IN THE STOP SIGN, WHICH IS ONLY CAUSING INCREASED CONGESTION AND MORE CONFUSION AROUND THE ROAD PATTERNS.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, I IMP IMPRESS UPON THE, THE SUPERVISORS TO COMPLETE A TRUE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY OF THE TOWNSHIP ROADS, OLD STATE ROAD, YAGA ROAD, OLD SOUTH TRAP ROAD AND SECOND AVENUE.

WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AROUND THE DEVELOPER, UH, IF, IF THIS PLAN GOES FORWARD, THAT THERE HAS TO BE A STORM MANAGEMENT OR INFILTRATION TESTED C TESTING COMPLETED BEFOREHAND.

IN CLOSING, I WILL SUBMIT MY COMMENTS TO YOU, UH, SUBMIT, SUBMIT THE COMMENTS I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER, UH, AND DEMONSTRATE THE SAME KIND OF RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

AND PLEASE VOTE NO WHEN THIS PROPOSAL COMES TO YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

UH, MY NAME'S BILL FELTON, 1 33 OLD STATE ROAD.

UH, IT'S MY HOPE AND OPINION THAT, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SHOULD NOT BE COMPELLED TO APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE ZONING AND WHICH IS OFFENSIVE AND WILL IN THE LONG RUN, BE A BURDEN TO THE TOWNSHIP, THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES, AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN PROVE THAT THIS PLAN ONE HAS A PLACE IN THE MARKET.

IT WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL OR HARMFUL TO THE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE WATER POLLUTION AND WATER RUNOFF, AIR POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION, LIGHT POLLUTION, VISUAL POLLUTION, WHICH ARE ALL SPELLED OUT TO BE CONSIDERED IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED THE BURDEN OF APPROVING OVER AMBITIOUS PLANS, WHICH HAVE FAILED AND THEN BECAME A FINANCIAL BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS TOWNSHIP.

WE ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE FAILURE OF THE COUNTY TO EXERCISE ACCOUNTABILITY ON A FAILED PROJECT.

LET'S NOT EXACERBATE AND COMPOUND THIS PROBLEM EVEN MORE BY APPROVING THIS PLAN.

I'M STILL AN ADVOCATE FOR PRESERVING THIS LAND IS OPEN SPACE AND PARKLAND AND IF NECESSARY WOULD SUPPORT EMINENT DOMAIN.

IF TO THAT END, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MR. FALLEN.

WE STILL HAVE TIME.

IF, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU DON'T HAVE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A REPEAT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE FEEL FREE.

HI.

UM, I'M AARON HOLT.

I LIVE AT 3 33 PORT PROVIDENCE ROAD, PHOENIXVILLE, UM,

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DOWN IN MONTCLAIR.

SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT CONDITIONAL USE HEARING PROCESS.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

AND I'M NOT A LAWYER.

UM, I'M A STATISTICIAN AND I LIKE LOGIC THOUGH, SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT YOU HAVE TO BE UNBIASED.

IF YOU GUYS SCREW UP BECAUSE YOU'RE A BIASED IN THE CONDITIONAL USE HEARING, WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST SAY GO AHEAD.

SO THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

UM, IT WOULD BE JUST EGREGIOUS IF YOU GUYS BOTCHED THAT AND HE GOT TO GO AHEAD BECAUSE YOU GUYS WERE NOT NEUTRAL.

SO THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

UM, BUT I JUST WANNA SPEAK TO A KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACT THAT MR. MULLEN'S LAW FIRM RECENTLY LOST A COURT CASE IN WHICH HE MISREPRESENTED THE FRIENDS OF WAR SISTER.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM CLEVELAND, SO I'M PROBABLY NOT SAYING THAT RIGHT.

UM, IT'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME PALMER VILLAGE.

TRULY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS.

MY POINT IN ALL OF THIS IS THAT THE NONPROFIT USED A TREE AS THEIR LOGO, AND MR. MULLEN'S LAW FIRM TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO SEND A LETTER FROM THE FRIENDS OF WARCHESTER LLC, WHICH WAS A CORPORATION THAT HE ESTABLISHED, OR THAT HIS LAW FIRM DID TO IMPERSONATE THE NONPROFIT, UM, ORGANIZATION.

AND THEY WENT SO FAR AS TO USE THEIR TREE LOGO.

SAME THING.

MIGHT AS WELL BE FROM THAT NONPROFIT.

UM, THEY SENT A LETTER TO ALL THE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT TOWNSHIP INDICATING THAT THE FRIENDS OF WARCHESTER, WHICH FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES LOOKED LIKE THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION SUPPORTED THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN THEY 100% DO NOT.

SO EVENTUALLY HE WAS TAKEN TO COURT APPEAL, APPEAL, APPEAL, WHATEVER.

UM, HE WAS HAD TO ULTIMATELY OWN UP TO THE FACT THAT HIS LLC WAS NOT THE NONPROFIT AND HE HAD TO SEND A LETTER APOLOGIZING.

BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT NOBODY READS THE RETRACTIONS, THE DAMAGE HAD BEEN DONE.

SO HERE'S MY THING.

I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IF HE'S THE ONE PRESENTING THE EVIDENCE, THIS CONDITIONAL USE HEARING, PLEASE DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO VET HIS EVIDENCE.

LIKE GET THAT EXTRA ATTORNEY THAT YOU SAID WE CAN HAVE.

PLEASE, LIKE I'M BEGGING YOU, I WAS FLOODED BY IDA.

OKAY? IF WE'RE GONNA FLOOD, I WANT IT TO BE BECAUSE MOTHER NATURE IS TICKED OFF AND SHE'S GOT SOMETHING TO PROVE.

I DON'T WANT IT TO, BECAUSE PARKHOUSE IS CAUSING ALL OF THIS RUNOFF TO COME INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY? SO PLEASE JUST VET HIS EVIDENCE, GET ANOTHER PERSON ON IT, CHECK OUT EVERYTHING HE SAYS, BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN PROVEN PUBLICLY IN A COURT OF LAW THAT HE ME MISREPRESENTS THE TRUTH ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB.

I HAVE FAITH THAT YOU'LL DO WHAT'S RIGHT, BUT I'M JUST ASKING, PLEASE DO TAKE AN EXTRA STEP.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT HIS EVIDENCE IS LEGIT.

IS, AS SOMEBODY ELSE DID MUCH BETTER ALKA IN JOB ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF THE OVERLAYS, THE DISTRICT AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN APPROVED FOR, THAT WE STICK TO OUR GUNS.

ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, I, I WANNA THANK, OH, HERE WE GO.

HI, I'M RAY ROCCHIO.

I LIVE AT 3 74 VISTA DRIVE.

UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE TOWNSHIP.

I SAID THIS LAST MONTH AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT, UH, I'VE LIVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT FOR 25 YEARS AND I AM TRULY BLESSED TO LIVE IN SUCH A GREAT COMMUNITY AS EXERCISED BY WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER HERE TONIGHT.

AND THE WAY THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN BUILT OVER THE YEARS.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF, AND I WANNA PRESERVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITHIN REALISTIC GOALS OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN THE FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU ALL LAST TIME I WAS IN FRONT OF THE GROUP, LIKE YOU, THE SUPERVISORS WAS ACROSS THE STREET IN A BUILDING, WHICH NO LONGER EXISTS.

AND I VIEW THAT AS A GOOD THING THAT I HAVEN'T HAD TO COME OUT OFTEN AND COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE TOWNSHIP.

AGAIN, WE ARE BLESSED TO BE HERE.

I TRIED TO DO MY PART ON SERVING ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND I'VE NOW BEEN AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT, DRAGGED OUT LAST MONTH BY MY WIFE TO COME OUT AND FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE ABOUT PARKHOUSE WAS A ZOOM MEETING, WHICH PRESENTED QUITE A DIFFERENT PLAN THAN WHAT WE'VE ALL SEEN, UH, LAST MONTH AT THE PLANNING SESSION.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHEN ORIGINALLY SOLD TO THE DEVELOPER BY THE COUNTY, AND UNFORTUNATELY THE COUNTY HAS HAD A PART IN THIS IN THE PAST, THAT ONLY 15% WAS DEEMED DEVELOPABLE DUE TO THE WATER FLOW RATES IN THE COUNTY, IN THE AREA OVER HERE OF PARKHOUSE.

THIS IS NOT REFLECTED IN THE CURRENT PLAN.

WE DON'T BELIEVE IN FACT FLOODING ISSUES CURRENTLY, A MAJOR PROBLEM IN THE AREA WILL INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY.

THE PARKHOUSE PROPERTY, STORMWATER RUNOFF, DRAINS INTO THE CHUKA RIVER UPSTREAM FROM MONTCLAIR.

THIS WILL MAKE MATTERS WORSE IN UPPER PROVIDENCE, MONTCLAIR, AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

ALL THAT I WOULD ASK OF THE SUPERVISORS TONIGHT

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PART OF MY JOB, UH, WE'VE STARTED A PETITION JUST YESTERDAY, 500 PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SIGNED.

IT IS TO BRING TO YOU THE VERACITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, WE WANT TO PUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN INTO PREVENTING THIS FROM HAPPENING IN A VERY PROPER WAY.

THERE'S ENOUGH GROUNDS WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN ORDINANCES TO STOP THIS.

PLEASE HELP US.

AND ALL THAT I ASK IS THAT YOU ENGAGE, LISTEN, AND INFORM THE COMMUNITY AS YOU TAKE ACTIONS GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO MY EMAILS.

I KNOW YOU'RE ALL BUSY.

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK FROM EVERYBODY, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, RAY.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SAY NO ONE RISE.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA.

AND, UH, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN PARKHOUSE WILL BE ON THIS BOARD'S AGENDA.

THERE IS A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT, A SECOND ROUND WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND UH, HOPEFULLY AFTER THAT MEETING WE'LL HAVE SOME, UH, LIGHT ON WHERE THE APPLICANT'S GOING TO GO NEXT.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, THIS BOARD HELD

[EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT]

AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON JANUARY 11TH, 2023 AT 4:30 PM TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE AND PERSONNEL MATTERS.

UM, WE HAVE AN BILL

[ APPROVAL OF BILL LIST ]

LIST FOR THE PERIOD DECEMBER 1ST THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST.

I KNOW EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE BILL LIST.

UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FROM DECEMBER 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2022.

ANY AMOUNT OF $1,460,395 AND 49 CENTS.

SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT, I HAVE AN MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FOR THE PERIOD DECEMBER ONE THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2022 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,460,395 AND 49 CENTS.

OF, UH, MINUTES IN OUR PACKET FROM OUR REGULAR MEETING ON DECEMBER 5TH AND FROM OUR REORGANIZATION MEETING ON JANUARY 3RD.

AND WE HAD A COUPLE SETS

[ APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

UM, IF THERE'S NO CORRECTION, INSTEAD OF MINUTES, MINUTES, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER 5TH, 2022 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AND THE JANUARY 3RD, 2023 REORGANIZATION MEETING MINUTES.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR OUR DECEMBER 5TH REGULAR, UH, MEETING AND OUR JANUARY 3RD, 2023 RE ORGANIZATION MEETING.

BUSINESS ITEMS. CONSIDER APPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY FOR AN OPEN FIVE YEAR TERM.

AND, UH, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, UH, SO ON TO SOME OLD

[OLD BUSINESS (ACTION/DISCUSSION ITEMS)]

WE TABLED THIS FROM OUR REORGANIZATION MEETING.

I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE NO RESUMES OR LETTERS, UH, VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS POSITION.

SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SIT ON THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY, UM, PLEASE SUBMIT A RESUME TO THE TOWNSHIP MANAGER OR THE TOWNSHIP, UH, ADMINISTRATOR, AND, UH, AND WE'LL GET YOU ON THERE .

AND, UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE, UH, ANOTHER ONE HERE FOR THE ZONING HEARING BOARD.

THIS IS FOR AN ALTERNATE.

SO YOU WOULD NOT BE ATTENDING EVERY MEETING, BUT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE IN CASE THEY COULD NOT, THEY MUST HAVE A QUORUM IN EVERY MEETING FOR THE ZONING HEARING BOARD.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE, THE ZONING HEARING BOARD, THERE IS AN OPENING THERE AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER.

AND, UH, AGAIN, PLEASE JUST SUBMIT A RESUME OR LETTER TO THE TOWNSHIP MANAGER.

OKAY? AND WE'RE GONNA TABLE THOSE TWO ITEMS AND PROBABLY TAKE THEM OFF OUR AGENDA FOR NOW.

CONSIDER AUTHORIZING AN EXECUTION OF DEED OF DEDICATION AND ROAD RIGHT AWAY FOR HOPWOOD ROAD.

AND, UH, JOE, YOU WANT TO GIVE US A QUICK HEEL ON THAT? THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A CLEANUP ITEM, I THINK FROM RU.

IS THIS THE ONE WITH, UH, WITH, UM, ALD? NO, THIS IS, UH, RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE THE YY STATION.

OH, FOR YOURS? YEP.

SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING ALL THE NECESSARY ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY BETWEEN THE LEGAL AND THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY, VERY STANDARD TO HAVE THEM HAND OVER THAT EXTRA RIGHT OF WAY AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

YEP.

AND THIS IS TO COMPLETE, UH, THE SEWER? YEP.

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I'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION ON THAT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A DEED OF DEDICATION AND RIGHT OF WAY FOR HOPWOOD ROAD.

SECOND THAT.

I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO, UH, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A DEED OF DEDICATION AND ROAD RIGHT OF WAY FOR HOPWOOD ROAD, UH, ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION IN OUR PACKETS.

AND NOW, CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SIX AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND SUBMISSION OF SEWAGE FACILITY PLANNING MODULE COMPONENT FOUR TO D E P FOR 1 24 YORKS ROAD, YORKY STATION.

AND, UH, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING ABNORMAL ABOUT THAT.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

YEAH, NO, I'M SORRY.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

UM, IT'S BEEN THROUGH THE 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

SO THE COMPONENTS HAVE ALL BEEN SIGNED.

THIS IS JUST NOW THE ACTUAL SUBMISSION TO P A D E P.

PAPERWORK.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SIX AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND SUBMISSION OF SEWAGE FACILITY PLANNING MODULE COMPONENT FOUR TO THE D E P FOR 1 24 YS ROAD, YS YUKI STATION.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SIX AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND SUBMISSION OF SEWAGE FA FACILITY PLANNING MODULE COMPONENT FOUR TO THE D E P FOR 1 24 YYS ROAD SLASH YORKY STATION.

ON TO NEW

[NEW BUSINESS (ACTION/DISCUSSION ITEMS)]

BUSINESS.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, WE HAD, UH, THE BARGAINING UNIT FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS UNION, THE INTERNATIONAL, UH, ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 53 67 VOTED YES ON THE CONTRACT THAT WE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM.

AND, UH, WE'RE READY TO ADOPT THAT ON OUR SIDE.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

IT'S, UM, THEY, UM, I ASSUME EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT, BRIAN.

EVERYBODY'S STAFF IS ABSOLUTELY OKAY WITH IT.

UH, LABOR COUNCIL REVIEWED THE DOCUMENT AS WELL, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN SIGNED BY MR. CHLOE.

I UNDERSTAND THE FIREFIGHTERS ALREADY VOTED ON THE, ON THE AGREEMENT.

THANKS.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

HOW LONG BEFORE WE HAVE TO RE UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? THE AGREEMENT RUNS THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.

SO IT'S, UH, TWO YEARS JANUARY.

TWO YEARS JANUARY TO JANUARY.

I, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND I A F F LOCAL 53 67.

SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 53 67.

AND THANK YOU TO THE TOWNSHIP STAFF NEGOTIATORS, THANK YOU TO OUR LABOR COUNCIL.

THANK YOU TO THE NEGOTIATORS FOR THE FIRE U UH, UNION.

UM, I THOUGHT WE, THIS WAS VERY SMOOTH AND, UH, VERY QUICK AND I APPRECIATE IT.

AND HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH WE'LL DO ONE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, , HOPEFULLY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, ALRIGHT, NUMBER 12, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE FOR VARIOUS TOWNSHIP OWNED VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT THROUGH MUNICIPAL.

I THINK YOU GUYS SAW THAT IT WAS A SHORT LIST, ABOUT FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN ITEMS, I THINK ON THERE.

AND, UH, THEY ALL LOOK GOOD TO ME TO SELL.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT AND SALE OF VARIOUS TOWNSHIP OWNED VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT THROUGH MUNICIPAL.COM.

I, I, I HAVE A QUESTION ON, ON THE MOTION.

I, I, I SEE THAT IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM THAT WE HAVE A YUKON UP FOR SALE.

ALSO, WE SELLING THIS SEPARATELY, IT'S NOT PART OF THE MUNICIPAL BID.

IS THERE, CAN WE, WOULD, WE WOULD LIKE TO SELL IT SEPARATELY.

THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, UM, FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION IS TO SELL THAT TO A, UH, FIRE COMPANY.

UM, SO WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S PURCHASING THAT.

WELL, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING IT.

HOWEVER, IF THE BOARD DOESN'T ACT AFFIRMATIVELY ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM TO SELL IT TO LEHIGH AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD HAVE THIS AD PREPARED TO RUN IT ON MUNICIPAL.

TRYING TO COVER ALL, COVER ALL OUR BASES HERE, JOHN.

I GOTCHA.

IS IT E JUST EASIER? AND WE, WE, GETTING RID OF A LOT OF, UH, MUNICIPAL HAS BEEN BOTH AN EFFICIENT WAY AND WE THINK WE GET VERY FAIR PRICES ON MUNIB.

YEAH, THEY, THAT, THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET, THE, UH, LETTER FROM LEHIGH.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE PRICE, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS BOOK VALUE TO ME.

SO ANYWAY, THE REASON THAT I ASK IS I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE SOMEBODY MADE COMMENT TO ME THAT YOU CAN SELL THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON FOR MORE MONEY MAYBE, OR BETTER GET A BETTER DEAL.

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UM, IT'S MUCH EASIER THAN TRYING TO RUN AN AD IN THE PAPER OR ADVERTISE IT SOMEWHERE LOCALLY.

JUST ENDS UP BEING A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT PROCESS USE OF STAFF TIME.

YEAH, I'VE BEEN ON THERE MANY TIMES.

THERE'S A LOT OF COOL STUFF ON, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF ON THERE.

ALL RIGHT, WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR HERE? GOT A SECOND.

YOU HAVE TO SECOND THE MOTION.

I'LL SECOND A MOTION.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

UM, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AUTHORIZE THE ADVERTISEMENT OF SALE OF VARIOUS TOWN OWNED VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT THROUGH MUNICIPAL BID.COM.

AND NEXT, UH, AND WE DO ALREADY HAVE A BUYER FOR THIS.

I WAS TRYING TO LOOK IT UP IN OUR PACKET, BUT WE HAVE A LETTER, UH, UH, OF INTENT TO PURCHASE FROM LEHIGHTON LE LEHIGH TON VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF A 2011 GM C CON TO LEHIGH AND VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO AUTHORIZE THE SALE OF A 2011 GMC YUKON TO LEHIGHTON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT NOW I SEE THAT NUMBER CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL LEASE FOR THE PROPERTY AT 9 11 9 11 SOUTH LOUIS ROAD.

AND, UH, THAT'S THE LEASE THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR MONTHS.

I THINK YOU GUYS SAW IT.

I THINK WE FINALLY HAVE IRONED IT ALL OUT, CHUCK.

YEAH, I I DID SEE THAT.

I I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, BRIAN, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, AN, UM, THE LEASES THAT HE HAS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE BARN OR WHATEVER, THE OTHER BUILDING, DOES HE STILL, STILL BE ABLE TO, HE'S STILL ALLOWED TO COLLECT THOSE? I DON'T RECALL.

JOE, DO YOU REMEMBER HOW THAT'S WRITTEN IN HERE? YES.

YES.

HE, HE, THAT'S STILL THE CASE THAT THIS, THIS, THESE AMENDMENTS DIDN'T CHANGE THAT.

ARE WE STILL FIXING THE ROOF OF THE BARNS? I THOUGHT IT'S BEEN FIXED.

IT'S BEEN FIXED.

WAS THAT ON US TO DO IT? YEAH, I THINK THE TOWNSHIP DID THAT, BUT WE PUT IN NEW LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD ON HOW WE'RE HANDLING HIS REQUESTS, THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, RE REACH THIS THREAT THRESHOLD OF A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT.

WELL, WAIT NOW WAIT, WAIT.

WE DID, WE DID THE ROOF ON THE HOUSE.

RIGHT.

BUT WE DIDN'T DO THE ROOF ON THE, ON THE BUILDING BEHIND THAT.

HE LEASES OUT, WE DID THE ROOF AND THE WINDOWS ON THE MAIN HOUSE, RIGHT.

LAST YEAR.

I DON'T RECALL.

AND I KNOW TOM BRAVO'S NOT HERE.

I DON'T RECALL IF WE DID THE ROOF ON THE OUT BUILDING OR NOT.

YEAH, WE DIDN'T DO THAT OUT OUTPUT.

NOT THE ONE HE LEASES OUT.

AND WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT GOING FORWARD.

SO I WAS THAT'S CLEAR IN THE, IN THE, IN THE LEASE.

I, I JUST THINK I, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A PURPOSE FOR THAT, FOR THE, FOR PUTTING MONEY INTO THIS.

UM, WELL, THE HOUSE, AND I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THIS TO A LATER DISCUSSION AGAIN.

UM, I JUST, I DON'T WANNA BE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS, UM, UNLESS WE HAVE A PURPOSE FOR IT.

WELL, A A PREVIOUS BOARD DECIDED THAT THE HOUSE ITSELF, WHICH STATES TO THE 1680S, I THINK, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND HE HAS THE ORIGINAL LEAD FROM THE KING OF ENGLAND TO WHOEVER AND NO, I'M, I'M SERIOUS.

IT HAS HISTORICAL VALUE AND THAT'S WHY THEY DECIDED.

BUT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY WAS, WAS THE PROBLEM THAT HE WANTED US TO MAINTAIN OTHER BUILDINGS AND MAKE REPAIRS TO PONDS AND, AND JAMES FIELDS AND .

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS, OH, O OKAY, THEN WE'RE GONNA RE PRESERVE IT AS A MUSEUM PIECE THEN.

I, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD ENTER TO, INTO AN AGREEMENT LIKE THIS AGAIN, IS ALL I WOULD SAY.

THIS IS, IT'S A LIFE ESTATE AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH.

YES, SIR.

YEP.

UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THERE AT THE TOP OF, UH, YOUR THIRD PAGE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL LEASE FOR THE PROPERTY AT NINE 11 SOUTH LEWIS ROAD.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO EXECUTE, TO EXECUTE THE RESIDENTIAL LEASE FOR THE PROPERTY AT 9 11 11 SOUTH LOUIS ROAD.

AND, UH, CONSIDER APPOINTING JOE LO SAL AS A MEMBER OF THE UNIFORM CONSTRUCTION CODE BOARD OF APPEALS.

AND, UH, I KNOW JOE, HE'S A GOOD GUY.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT JOE LO CASAL AS A MEMBER OF THE UNIFORM CONSTRUCTION CODE BO BOARD OF APPEALS.

CONSTRUCTION CODE BOARD OF APPEALS.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT JOE LOCA SAL AS A MEMBER OF THE UNIFORM

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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AND THANK YOU, JOE, FOR CONTINUING TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, THAT BOARD MEETING ACTUALLY, UH, UH, IT MEETS ABOUT ONCE EVERY THIRD BLUE MOON , BUT THERE IS AN APPEAL PENDING, SO WE HAVE A HEARING COMING UP WITHIN ANOTHER MONTH OR SO.

THERE YOU GO, .

HE JOINED JUST IN TIME FOR THE EXCITEMENT THERE.

SO WHAT DO THEY ACTUALLY DO? UM, SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PULL PERMITS TO BUILD AFTER YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS? UM, THE, THERE ARE A SERIES OF, OF CONSTRUCTION CODES, A BUILDING CODE OF FIRE CODE, A PLUMBING CODE, AND THOSE CODES TELL YOU HOW YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE STRUCTURES THAT YOU BUILD.

SOMETIMES THERE IS AN INTERPRETATION DIFFERENCE, UH, ON HOW, HOW TO APPLY THOSE.

AND, UH, WE'RE IN A DISAGREEMENT WITH AN APPLICANT ON HOW YOU DEFINE BUILD, UH, BUILDING HEIGHT AND WHETHER THERE'S A THING CALLED A MECHANICAL PENTHOUSE.

AND DOES IT APPLY AS AN EXCEPTION TO THE BUILDING HEIGHT.

SO, UM, IN A WAY THEY ARE LIKE, KIND OF LIKE THE ZONING HEARING BOARD, BUT FOR BUILDING DETAILED, BUILDING SPECIFIC BUILDING CONSTRUCTION ISSUES.

AND JUST APPOINTING JOE, I, I KNOW JOE'S BACKGROUND ON THIS.

HE, I HOPE HE, HE GETS ON THIS THING RIGHT AWAY, SO WE'LL, YOU'LL BE ON THIS WAY RIGHT? TO WORK.

YEP.

PUT HIM RIGHT TO WORK.

WE'RE DOWN TO MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS.

AND, UH, NOW

[MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS]

UH, AND, UH, FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A LETTER OF INTENT WITH THE GOVERNORS CENTER FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

UM, DUE TO OUR CONSTRAINTS HAS MAINLY BEEN SUPERVISOR KELSEY AND I MEETING, BUT WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE TRAP FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHAT I'M DOING, AND, UH, THE TRAP BOROUGH, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE TRAP BOROUGH COUNCIL TO, UH, UH, FURTHER SOLIDIFY OUR REGIONAL FIREFIGHTING APPROACH.

AND, AND, UH, WE'RE BRINGING ALL OF THE FIRE COMPANIES IN THE, IN THE ERA, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT SEVERAL OF THEM UNDER COMMAND OF, UH, NUMBER 68, WHICH IS, UH, UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.

AND, UH, SO WE'RE IMPROVING THAT.

AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE MORE WAYS WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES TO, UH, NOT ONLY SAVE US MONEY, BUT PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES FOR ALL OUR RESIDENTS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THE FIRE PIECE AND ALSO TO THE COG PIECE, WHICH MORE COOPERATION BETWEEN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

THERE ARE A COUPLE MODELS OF IT HERE IN THE STATE.

ONE IS OUT, UH, AT STATE CENTER, UH, AROUND PENN STATE.

UH, THERE ARE EIGHT OR NINE MUNICIPALITIES THERE THAT ARE IN A BIG COG AGREEMENT TO DO A LOT OF THEIR WORK TOGETHER.

ACTUALLY, RIGHT NEXT DOOR HERE IN TRAP AND COLLEGEVILLE, THEY SHARE A DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, DEPARTMENT, AND THAT, THAT SAVES THOSE TWO, BORROW SOME MONEY.

SO THERE, THERE, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S SOME MORE FRUIT TO BE PICKED THERE AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL HELP KEEP OUR TAXES DOWN AND IMPROVE OUR SERVICES.

SO ANYWAY, UH, I'M SORRY.

AND TIM WAS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THE BOARD THIS LETTER OF INTENT.

CHAIRMAN STERLING, JUST RATTLE, I'M SHUT UP.

THIS LETTER OF INTENT, UM, IS THE, THE STATE REQUIRES THE BOARD TO ACT ON THIS LETTER OF INTENT BECAUSE IT WILL FREE, UM, IT WILL GIVE THEM THE GREEN LIGHT TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL SERVICES TO WORK WITH US AND YOU, JOE, TO, TO TRY TO HELP, UH, GET THE, UH, ENTITY IN PLACE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

IT'LL GIVE US MONEY, RIGHT? MONEY.

, DO I, I'LL MAKE MOTION.

WASHINGTON CRAP WILL ALSO HAVE TO ADOPT THIS SAME L O C.

UM, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF A LETTER OF INTENT WITH THE GOVERNOR'S CENTER FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

I'LL SECOND A MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO EXECUTE A LETTER OF INTENT WITH THE GOVERNOR'S CENTER FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AND TIM IS GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT OUR 2023 BUDGET DONATIONS.

WANTED TO GET THE BOARD'S PLEASURE ON HOW YOU'D LIKE TO HANDLE THE 2023 BUDGET, UH, DONATIONS.

WE HAVE THREE ENTITIES IN OUR BUDGET.

IT'S, UH, WE, UH, HAVE $10,000 SLATED FOR THE CHUCO CANAL ASSOCIATION, UH, $5,000 TO THE HISTORIC TRAP, AND A LITTLE OVER 21,000, 21,219 TO THE MAK LIBRARIES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BUDGETED.

UM, WE CAN EITHER ISSUE THE CHECK, WHAT WAS, UH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME REQUESTS TO HAVE SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS COME UP AND GIVE A PRESENTATION.

WHAT'S, UH, I'D LIKE TO GET THE BOARD'S PLEASURE AND I'LL GET BACK TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

WELL, WE SAW A PRESENTATION, UH, SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR FROM HISTORIC TRAP THAT I THOUGHT WAS GREAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE NEEDED TO COME BACK FOR A WHILE, BUT SHE COULD COME BACK MAYBE NEXT YEAR.

OLD CENSUS NUMBER, ON THE OLD CENSUS CENSUS, EVEN PAYING THE CURRENT NUMBER.

UM, AND THE LIBRARY, WE RECEIVED GOOD COMMUNICATION FROM THEM.

BY THE WAY, THE ROARS FOR LIBRARY IS AVAILABLE TO ALL RESIDENTS UP UPPER PROVIDENCE.

THEY ALSO PROVIDE SOME LIBRARY SERVICES THROUGH OUR RECREATION CENTER.

YOU CAN INVESTIGATE WITH OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT MORE ABOUT THAT.

IT'S CALLED.

AND, UH, I THINK WE ONLY GIVE THEM A DOLLAR PER HEAD THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

THAT'S A DOLLAR PER HEAD ON THE

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BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT, THAT'S THE DONATION WE MAKE TO THEM.

AND I, I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A BARGAIN.

AND, UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CHUKA CANAL ASSOCIATION.

IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE THEY'VE HERE BEFORE, JUST TO HEAR HOW WORK HAS GOING DOWN THERE.

THEY'RE THE ONLY HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF UPPER PROVIDENCE.

I MEAN, THERE IS A SPRING FORWARD, THERE'S TRAP AND PHOENIXVILLE.

THEY ALL HAVE HISTORICAL SOCIETIES, BUT THAT'S OUR ONLY ONE IS THE CANAL ASSOCIATION.

SO, YEAH, I, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH, UH, UH, GO AHEAD AND CUTTING THE CHAIR.

I'LL REACH OUT TO THE SCA.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO TALK ABOUT? YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

YOU CAN CUT THE CHECK.

BE GREAT TO HEAR FROM THEM.

ABSOLUTELY.

LAST, UH, LAST ITEM.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, WITH, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GET SOME RECRUITMENT VIDEOS, UH, TO HELP, UH, WITH OUR EFFORTS IN GETTING MORE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS DO, UH, THE PRIMER ON THIS IS, THERE'S THREE VIDEOS, RIGHT? THREE, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO SHARE.

THIS IS OUR, UH, PREVIEW TONIGHT, RIGHT.

WE WORKED AT A PRODUCTION COMPANY, UH, CALLED SYCOR.

AND, UM, IT'S BEEN ABOUT A YEAR.

UH, AND THEN SEVERAL OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES GUYS CAME OUT AND THEY HELPED DEVELOP THE VIDEOS.

UH, THE INTENT IS TO GET IT OUT THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS, UM, DIRECTOR AND THROUGH THE TEMPORARY COMPANY THAT WE'RE USING.

AND IN ADDITION TO, MONTGOMERY COUNTY'S RUNNING A VERY SIMILAR PROGRAM.

AND WE'RE GONNA OFFER THE VIDEOS TO THEM SO THEY CAN, THE, THE, THE MORE WE CAN GET OUT ACROSS THE BOARD, WELL, NOT THE BOARD, BUT THE MORE WE CAN GET OUT ACROSS, UM, THE AREA, THE, THE BETTER.

WE HOPE THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY RECRUIT SOME VOLUNTEERS.

SO THESE ARE, THEY'RE REAL QUICK.

THERE'S THREE OF THEM.

IT'S SOMEWHAT HARD TO DESCRIBE UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE IT YOURSELF.

WHEN WE GET A CALL, THE ADRENALINE STARTS HUMPING AND I'M GRABBING MY SHOES RUNNING OUT THE DOOR, HEADED TO THE CAR.

IT'S AN ADRENALINE RUSH LIKE NO OTHER, WHETHER IT BE AN AUTOMATIC ALARM, A STRUCTURE FIRE, A VEHICLE RESCUE.

IT'S JUST A FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GET GEARED UP AND AMPED UP A LOT MORE RIDING ON A FIRETRUCK, LIGHTS AND SIRENS THROUGH TRAFFIC.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A THROW.

IT'S WHEN WE PULL UP TO THE SCENE, SEEING EVERYONE SET UP ALL THE LADDERS, GRABBING ALL THE TOOLS OFF THE TRUCKS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NO FEELING LIKE IT UNLESS YOU DO IT.

UM, I'M ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE EMERGENCY KIND OF COOL COMMON COLLECTIVE, WHILE OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT BE IN SOMEONE OF A PANIC MODE, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THAT AND, YOU KNOW, GET TO A CALL AND ACTUALLY PUT OUT A FIRE AND TO SEE THE PRIDE THAT THEY HAVE IN THEMSELVES, TO SEE THE SMILE THAT'S ON THEIR FACE TO SAY, HEY, I DID THAT.

NO WORDS CAN EXPRESS IF ANYONE'S THINKING OF VOLUNTEERING, I SAY, DO IT.

I LOVE VOLUNTEERING BECAUSE I LOVE GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I GREW UP IN TO HELP THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY DURING THEIR WORST DAYS BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE THAT I BELONG.

THE BLACK ROCK VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY, TO ME IS AN HONOR.

IT'S A GREAT THING TO BE A PART OF.

AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU LEARNED IN THE FIREHOUSE CAN BE APPLIED TO YOUR OUTSIDE LIFE TOO.

TAKES A SPECIAL PERSON TO BE A FIREFIGHTER, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A FIREFIGHTER TO BE A PART OF A GREAT ORGANIZATION.

WHETHER IT WOULD BE AS A FIREFIGHTER, WOULD IT BE FIRE POLICE, WHETHER IT BE AN ADMINISTRATION, UH, EVERY VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION AROUND YOU NEED YOUR HELP.

ANYBODY THAT'S THINKING ABOUT VOLUNTEERING, I SAY, COME OUT, VISIT YOUR LOCAL VOLUNTEER FIRE SERVICE.

HOLD AN ADDITIONAL ACCUSATIONS FROM THE BEDROOM ONE AND TWO, SNOW DETECTORS, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, 60 BY 50 WORKING FIRE SECONDS.

FLOOR YOUR DRIVEWAY, RIGHT TO ROOM, PLACE, FIRE CONTROL HERE FOR TIME, SALVAGE LONG WHENEVER YOU CALL, WE'RE GONNA SHOW UP TO BE THERE TO HELP YOU OUT.

SO WE HOPE IT HELPS THAT.

AWESOME.

WE KNOW THE VOLUNTEER FIRES ARE STRUGGLING, SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO, TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT.

UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE MEDIA, WELL, IT'S THREE DIFFERENT MEDIAS, SAID, WE'LL, WE'LL GET OUT THERE AND, UH, SOMEONE CALLS AND SAYS, HEY, I'D LIKE TO HELP.

WE'LL POINT 'EM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND HOPEFULLY WE GRAB A COUPLE VOLUNTEERS FROM IT.

SO WILL THEY BE ON OUR WEBSITE? WHERE WOULD THEY BE VIEWED? UH, WE WILL, WE CAN PUT, I THINK WE CAN PUT 'EM ON OUR WEBSITE.

UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THEM ANYWHERE.

LIKE EVEN THE MONITOR IN THE LOBBY.

YEAH, THEY'RE QUICK.

THEY WERE, AND YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE THEY WOULDN'T RUN JUST LIKE THAT CAUSE THEY'RE PRETTY, PRETTY SIMILAR.

BUT YEAH, ANYWHERE THAT I, I'LL BE HONEST, UM, I'M HOPING THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE, UH, TELL YOU, TELL YOU GETTING THAN I AM.

GREAT.

IF YOU PUT 'EM ON SOCIAL MEDIA TOO.

OUR PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS IN A TOWNSHIP.

SO.

WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, EARLIER TONIGHT YOU HEARD US PASS, UH, THE CONTRACT FOR

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THAT'S A NEW THING FOR UPPER PROVIDENCE AND A NEW THING IN THIS AREA.

THERE ARE OTHER, UH, PHOENIX WHO NOW HAS A FULL-TIME PROFESSIONAL FIGHTING FOR FIREFIGHTING FORCE ALSO.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, GUYS.

IT'S YOU GUYS.

WE GET A TREMENDOUS BARGAIN, BOTH OF OUR POLICE AND OUR PAID FIREFIGHTERS.

BUT WE NEED VOLUNTEERS.

WE NEED THE VOLUNTEER COMPANIES TO STAY REACTIVE AND TO BE ABLE TO GET EQUIPMENT ON THE SCENE, TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE ON THE SCENE.

AND, UH, CHIEF PROVIDED ME WITH A GREAT ARTICLE, I THINK IT WAS CALLED THE LONELY FIRE CALL THAT I READ, AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW GUYS HAVE TO GO OUT ON SOME OF THESE CALLS.

AND I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE ONE WE JUST HAD AT CHRISTMAS TIME WITH THAT TREE FALLING DOWN THERE ON 29 AND WHAT A HORRIBLE CONDITION THAT WAS FOR THE POLICE, THE LINEMEN, THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WENT OUT THERE, BUT, BUT THANK GOD THEY WERE THERE.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU, CHIEF.

DOWN TO CONSULTANT REPORTS.

UM, SO ON, ON THAT TWO, TWO ADDITIONAL THINGS.

UM, WE LOOK ON A BUILDING FIRE.

WE LOOK FOR ANYWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 25 FIREFIGHTERS ON LOCATION IN THE FIRST NINE MINUTES.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, I HAVE A GREAT GROUP OF GUYS THAT, THAT WORK FOR THE TOWNSHIP, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE VOLUNTEERS.

WE NEED 'EM IN THE VERY BEGINNING AND HALF AN HOUR LATER, IT'S TOO LATE.

UM, SECOND WITH TRAP, UM, ON THE 24TH OF THIS MONTH, THE CON THE OPERATIONAL CONSOLIDATION WILL GO INTO EFFECT.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR ABOUT A YEAR TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING, AND IT'LL BE VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, YOU SAW WITH BLACKROCK.

AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND THEN THIRD, UM, THAT YOU MENTIONED THE TRAGIC ACCIDENT ON THE 23RD, UH, WHICH RESULTED IN A POWER OUTAGE TO, UH, A LARGE AREA.

THE, THE ENTIRE PERKIN WOODS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS THE, THE ONE OF THE LARGEST DEVELOPMENTS IN THE TOWNSHIP, UM, WHEN THE TEMPERATURES RANGED ANYWHERE FROM ZERO TO FIVE.

UM, SO IT, IT, THE POWER WAS OUT FOR ALMOST 24 HOURS.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF YOU HAD SPOKEN, UM, BUT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT DURING, DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, IT WAS, UM, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, WHO AT THE SCENE WAS INVALUABLE TO US TO, UH, GAIN ACCESS FOR US.

AND THEN PARKS AND RECREATION, WHO AT THE DROP OF A PHONE CALL SHOWED UP, WE OPENED UP THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND OPENED AS A WARMING CENTER.

SO, UM, WHEN CHIEF FREEMAN TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE COOPERATION WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, IT, IT CERTAINLY CAME THE PAST, UH, IN THOSE 24 HOURS WHERE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO, TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE THE TOWNSHIP PROUD, TO TAKE CARE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT, UM, WERE TRULY IN NEED AT THAT POINT.

SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR, REMEMBER FOR MENTIONING PUBLIC WORKS.

I ALWAYS FORGET, AND THESE GUYS, THEY CAN BE CRITICAL, ESPECIALLY IN THESE BIG PROBLEMS, FLOODING, WHATEVER, THEY, THEY'RE THERE AND THEY GET IT DONE.

THE, WHAT THEY DID, UM, THEY, THEY GAINED ACCESS TO THE, TO THE CAR FORCE.

UM, YEAH.

AND IN, IN A WAY THAT THERE'S NOT A CHANCE I WOULD'VE EVEN ATTEMPTED TO DO IT.

UM, AND THEY, THEY WALKED IN THERE WITH THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL THAT THEY, IT, IT WAS LIKE WATCHING ARTISTS WORK AS THEY REMOVED IT.

THAT, SO IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST A GREAT TEAM EFFORT.

SO FOR, FOR UNFORTUNATELY A VERY TRAGIC EVENT.

[CONSULTANT REPORTS]

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, UM, VICE CHAIR, CASSIE WAS JUST THE, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN ITEM 20 CHANGED BEFORE THE MEETING.

WE ALL RECEIVED A MEMORANDUM.

THE ITEM, THE NUMBERS IN THE YELLOW, UH, FOR THE MOTION ARE CORRECT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD USE FOR THESE RELEASES OF ESCROW.

SO EVERYTHING'S OKAY WITH THOSE RELEASES, JEN, YOU YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL, OKAY.

SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE 'EM ALL AT ONCE.

I'LL, I'LL TRY IT.

, GO AHEAD JOHN.

UM, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MONTHLY ESCROW REVIEW LIST AS FOLLOWS.

RIDGEWOOD PHASE TWO, A RELEASE NUMBER 17 $1,012 AND 50 CENTS, UH, RIDGEWOOD, PHASE TWO B, RELEASE NUMBER NINE $14,305 RIDGEWOOD PHASE TWO C, RELEASE NUMBER SEVEN $70,537 AND 85 CENTS.

AND SIX 15 EGYPT ROAD RELEASE NUMBER 12 $114,588 SECOND.

THAT, THAT WAS PERFECT.

UH, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

NOW THE SOLICITOR'S REPORT, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT STORM WATER.

[SOLICITOR REPORT]

THE STORM WATER DECISION.

UNDER A FEDERAL PROGRAM CALLED MS. FOUR, MUNICIPALITIES ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE, UH, STRONGER AND STRONGER STEPS TO CAPTURE STORM WATER TO PREVENT POLLUTION IN THE STORM WATER FROM ENTERING, UH, THE RECEIVING BODIES.

UM, AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE HERE ALSO, UM,

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THAT PROGRAM'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR OVER 10 YEARS, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN SLOW AND RAMPING UP TO ACTUALLY DOING STUFF.

SO THE FIRST FEW YEARS WE'RE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND NOW WE'RE TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY START DOING THINGS.

AND A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE STATE HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED A STORMWATER FEE AS A WAY TO, UH, CUZ IT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, LIKE SO MANY.

UM, AND THERE ARE MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE, UH, ENACTED A STORMWATER FEE HERE IN THE TOWNSHIP THROUGH THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY.

UH, YOU REPURPOSED THEM TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU FOR THE STORMWATER FEE.

WE AMENDED THEIR CHARTER TO ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT.

UM, AND WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING UP A POSSIBLE STORMWATER FEE.

AND, UM, THERE WAS A, THERE'S A CASE THAT'S BEEN PENDING, SO WE HAD SORT OF PUT EVERYTHING ON HOLD.

THAT CASE WAS DECIDED, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO OUT OF WESTCHESTER.

UM, WESTCHESTER UNIVERSITY REFUSED TO PAY THE FEE ON CLAIMING THAT IT WAS NOT A FEE, THAT IT WAS REALLY A TAX, UM, TAX.

TAX EXEMPT ENTITIES, LIKE INSTITUTIONS DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO PAY FEES.

TA TAXES RAISE MONEY.

THEY'RE A GENERAL MONEY RAISING MECHANISM FOR THE OVERALL PUBLIC.

GOOD FEES ARE SOMETHING THAT RE REFLECT THE COST OF ACTUALLY PROVIDING SOMETHING TO SOMEONE.

SO LIKE WE HAVE OUR SEWER TAPPING FEE, THERE'S A SPECIFIC FORMULA THAT YOU USE AND THEN IN RETURN YOU GET TO CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM.

SO THE PENNSYLVANIA COMMONWEALTH COURT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE TWO APPEALS INTERMEDIATE APPEALS COURTS, VOTED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT IT ON THE WESTCHESTER CASE AND SAID IT IS A TAX, IT IS NOT A FEE, IT IS A TAX.

UM, THE IN IN SEPARATELY, THE SECOND CLASS TOWNSHIPS WERE GIVEN THE POWER TO ADOPT THIS SPECIFICALLY AS A, A FEE BY THE LEGISLATURE.

AND THAT PART'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE FOR RIGHT NOW IS THAT ANY MONEY THAT'S RAISED BY THE TOWNSHIP TOWARDS THESE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS CAN ONLY BE DONE AS A TAX.

UM, AND THAT MEANS THAT THE TAX EXEMPT ENTITIES ARE AGAIN EXEMPT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE IMPERVIOUS PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THEY SHOULD PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE TOWARDS THE PROGRAM, BUT WITH A TAX THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED, UH, TO DO THAT.

PLUS IT ALSO FURTHER BURDENS THE OVERALL TAXING, UH, POWER OF THE TOWNSHIP BY ADDING THAT AS A TAX.

SO, UM, THERE ARE SOME DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO BE MADE UNTIL WE SEE WHETHER THE SUPREME COURT ACCEPTS THE CASE.

THE, UM, PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT, LIKE THE US SUPREME COURT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE APPEALS.

IT DECIDES WHETHER IT WILL TAKE APPEALS.

SO WE'RE WAITING, I ASSUME THAT ONE OF THE PARTIES IS GOING TO AS APPEAL IT TO THE SUPREME COURT FOR REVIEW AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND THEN, THEN MAKE HARD DECISIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER TO DO IT AS A TAX, UH, IF IT, IF IT, IF THE CASE IS UPHELD.

THANK YOU, JOE.

AND, UH, SO FOLKS WILL KNOW IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS THIS FALL, THIS PAST FALL, WE DID CONTEMPLATE AND ACTUALLY HAD A PLAN PRESENTED FOR A STORMWATER FEE.

WE'LL HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY REWORK THAT NOW THAT, UH, NOW THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UH, TAXING FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, WE WILL DISCUSS IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

WE SHELVED IT FOR NOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'LL IMPLEMENT IT OR NOT FOR 2024, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE BACK ON OUR AGENDA IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THIS FALL.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

AND SUPERVISOR'S

[SUPERVISORS COMMENTS]

COMMENTS.

OH, I HAVE ONE AND, UH, WAS PROMPTED BY THIS EVENING'S AWARD CEREMONIES.

APPARENTLY WE ALL NEED TO GO OUT AND GET OUR CPR CERTIFICATION, AND IF YOU HAD ONE IN THE PAST, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO GET IT UPDATED.

I KNOW I HAVE AN UPDATED MINE IN 20 YEARS, SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD SET UP A CLASS OR SOMETHING HERE WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME AND GET CERTIFIED IN CPR.

I, I WANNA SAY THAT JUST AFTER TONIGHT, IT JUST MAKES ME SO PROUD TO BE AN ELECTED SUPERVISOR IN THIS TOWNSHIP.

I MEAN, WE REALLY DO HAVE GREAT STAFF, I HAVE TO SAY THEY'RE AWESOME TO WORK WITH.

AND, UM, ANYWAY, I JUST, MY, MY HEART SWELLED FROM TONIGHT'S, UH, AWARDS THAT WERE HANDED OUT.

I'M, I'M PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS TEAM.

THANK YOU FOR ELECTING ME.

UM, SUPERVISOR YEAGER WAS OUTTA TOWN ON BUSINESS IN ANOTHER STATE AND WAS UNABLE TO 10 TONIGHT.

WE DID GO OVER THE AGENDA TOGETHER AND THERE WAS NO, UH, SERIOUS ITEMS THAT HE NEEDED TO BE HERE TO VOTE ON, BUT HE WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD.

HE IS LISTENING.

HE WILL BE WATCHING THE TAPE OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO HE HE'S GETTING YOUR EMAILS AND HE'S ALL EARS TOO.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

[UPCOMING EVENTS]

[01:20:05]

JOHN, COME ON.

UH, BOARD OF SURVIVORS MEETING WILL BE ON FEBRUARY 12TH OF TUESDAY, AGAIN, BECAUSE I GUESS THAT'S, UH, PRESIDENT'S DAY GONNA GET US NEXT WEEK, MONTH.

AND, UH, THEN, UH, OUR REGULAR, ANOTHER REGULAR MEETING WILL BE ON MARCH 20TH, I BELIEVE THAT'S A MONDAY.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MEET TOMORROW NIGHT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

AND ON THEIR AGENDA IS THE PARKHOUSE, UH, PLAN.

AND, UH, ON FEBRUARY 1ST IS ANOTHER PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THAT WILL BE, UH, SPRING FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS A MINOR, UH, SUBDIVISION AND THE HOPWOOD ROAD TOWN HOMES.

I GUESS I KNOW WHICH ONES ACTUALLY, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, THAT HAS PULLED OFF.

WE HAD A MEETING ON FRIDAY AND THEY'RE GONNA REDO SOME OF THEIR WORK.

SO GOOD.

THAT WILL NOT BE ON THAT AGENDA.

UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETS, UH, JANUARY 18TH AT 6:00 PM PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE MEETS FEBRUARY 8TH AT 6:00 PM MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY MEETING IS FEBRUARY 2ND AT SEVEN.

ZONING HEARING BOARD, UH, MEETING IS SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW, JANUARY 19TH.

AND THEY HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM.

IT'S, UH, LELE US OPERATIONS.

AND, UH, WITH THAT, ACTUALLY IF I COULD INTERRUPT REAL QUICK, UM, SURE.

THERE WAS A, A TYPO.

THE BOARD SUPERVISORS MEETING IS FEBRUARY 21ST, NOT FEBRUARY 12TH.

STILL A TUESDAY THOUGH, RIGHT? STILL A TUESDAY.