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CAN'T HEAR YOU.

CAN'T

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HEAR YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO IT'S ALL YOU MS. LYNN.

ALRIGHTY.

[1. Call to Order and Committee Attendance ]

SO WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER AND UM, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO WELCOME OUR GUEST TODAY, MAYOR PETE, FOR COMING.

YOU SEE WE HAVE OUR NAME TAGS AND UM, JAMESON IS OUR JUNIOR BOARD MEMBER.

YEAH.

SO, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA DO A COUPLE OF, UM, BUSINESS ITEMS AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF GET RIGHT TO TALKING ABOUT THE, THE PRO THE UM, PROGRAM.

OKAY.

[2. Approval of Minutes ]

SO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

DID EVERYBODY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES? OKAY.

THE ONLY THING THAT FROM LAST WEEK THAT I DID NOT GET, I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET A PICTURE OF THE TREE AND I DID.

IS THAT A SO THING? YES.

CAUSE YOU SAID THE ONE THAT YOU HAD, YOU WERE GONNA TAKE A BETTER ONE.

YEAH.

OR SOMEBODY HAD A BETTER ONE.

I WILL HAVE TO CROP THE ONE I HAVE.

I WAS TOLD WE HAD ONE OF IT CHANGING COLORS.

MM-HMM.

AND NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE THAT PHOTO.

OKAY.

SO I WILL CROP THE ONE THAT I HAVE AND MAKE IT OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

YEAH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY AN RIGHT.

TAKE CONTACT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S OKAY.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS OR ANYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE TO THE MINUTES? NOPE, WE'RE GOOD.

ANYBODY IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTE? I, I APPROVED, UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

UH, WE DID, UH, TAYLOR AND I DID CHAT BRIEFLY JUST TO KIND OF CONFIRM WHAT WOULD BE GOOD TIMING FOR GETTING THE MINUTE.

SO GOING FORWARD PROBABLY A WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING, WHEN I SEND OUT MY EMAIL JUST REINING OR ASKING PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE ANY INPUT FOR THE AGENDA, THEN HE'LL SEND THEM MINUTES.

AND THIS WAY YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF DAYS TO REVIEW THEM.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, UM, REALLY ALL THE BUSINESS WE HAD TO DO.

ANY, UH, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT OTHER THAN A WELCOME AND WE COULD KIND

[4. New Business ]

OF GO RIGHT INTO TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, POTENTIAL FOR KATIE PROJECT AND PICK YOUR BRAIN AND HEAR ALL THE COOL THINGS YOU DID AND LIKE KIND OF LET MARIA WELL REALLY THERE'S NO REASON TO INTRODUCE HIM.

EVERYBODY KNOWS HIM ALREADY.

.

I DIDN'T.

I DIDN'T.

OH, I THOUGHT YOU DID.

NO, NO, I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING YOU.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PETER.

UM, HE IS THE MAYOR IN PHOENIXVILLE, SECOND TERM.

MM-HMM.

SECOND TERM.

UM, HE IS ALSO, UH, PART OF ANN'S HEART AND HE AND I ARE BOTH ON THE BOARD THERE.

AND, UH, I JUST MENTIONED TO HIM THAT, HEY, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS GRAFFITI WALL AND HE WAS LIKE, OH, WELL WE ALREADY DID THAT CUZ I HAD TOLD HIM THAT.

BUT, SO IT WASN'T A WALL FOR THEM.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR JUNCTION BOXES AND THEY, THEY ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOME WALLS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE GRAFFITI ON IT.

UM, I JUST SAW THE ONE, THE PHOENIX MM-HMM.

, THE PHOENIX.

PHOENIX BLAH PHOENIXVILLE PHOENIX JUST YESTERDAY.

CUZ I DIDN'T, I DON'T USUALLY DRIVE THAT WAY.

OH, IT IS SO NICE.

MM-HMM.

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AND IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS ON ONE 13 IN PHOENIXVILLE WHEN YOU, UM, YEAH.

YEAH.

SO WHERE OH, A LITTLE BIT PAST THAT.

YEAH, THERE'S A KIND OF A JUNCTION HANDS.

AND SO PETER WAS NICE ENOUGH TO OFFER TO COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY DID FOR THEIR GRAFFITI PROGRAM MM-HMM.

AND KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN PHOENIXVILLE I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, HAS REALLY HAD A RICH HISTORY OF KIND OF MURALS AND LIKE THIS TYPE OF GRAFFITI PROJECT, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

UH, STARTING BACK LIKE IN THE 1990S, LATE 1990S, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO DOWNTOWN RENAISSANCE PARK.

CERTAINLY THERE'S A GIANT MURAL RIGHT THERE.

UM, IT, IT ORIGINALLY STARTED OFF AS A PAINT MURAL, UH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY PAINTED UNFORTUNATELY ON AN INTERIOR WALL.

AND THE WALL STARTED TO CRUMBLE AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAD TO REESTABLISH IT, BUT FORTUNATELY WE HAD THE ORIGINAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF IT.

SO NOW, UH, AND TRADITIONALLY THIS IS WHERE WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT MORE OF, BUT UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A, UH, VERY STRONG ADHESIVE TYPE OF WALL PAPER THAT IS PRODUCED AND PRINTED AND THEN ESSENTIALLY, UH, INSTALLED AND APPLIED.

WE HAVE A LOT OF, WE HAVE, UM, A LOT OF, UH, EXPERIENCE IN THAT.

SO IF YOU EVER GO DOWN THAT, UH, DOWN THAT DIRECTION, I DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE SOME PEOPLE I'D WANT TO CONNECT YOU WITH.

UM, WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCES AND SOME ALSO REALLY NEGATIVE EXPERIENCES IN IT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THERE IS VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF HEAT TREATMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, WHICH CAN MAKE YOUR EXPERIENCE REALLY POSITIVE .

UM, AND IF IT'S NOT DONE PROPERLY, IT CAN MAKE IT VERY, VERY NEGATIVE .

SO, UM, I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD GET YOU THE RIGHT PERSON TO ACTUALLY TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT IF YOU HAD INTEREST.

SOMEBODY THAT COMES AND, AND THEN THEY

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PUT A PAPER.

SO THEY ACTUALLY, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PAINT IT, UH, EITHER DIGITALLY OR THEY TAKE THE ACTUAL PAINTING AND THEN THEY REPRODUCE IT ON WALL.

AND THEN THE WALLPAPER IS A, UH, WEATHER DURABLE.

UM, IT TAKES QUITE A LONG TIME TO ACTUALLY PRINT IT.

THE DYE ACTUALLY GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE WALL PAPER, SO IT KIND LOOKS PAINTED AND, UM, THEN IT'S INSTALLED USING BASICALLY ADHESIVE HEAT TO BIND WHATEVER SURFACE THE SURFACE THAT WE LEARNED THAT THAT A I'M UNDERSTAND THAT I, THAT'S LIKE YOU SEE IN PHILADELPHIA.

I THOUGHT PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET UP THERE.

YEAH, SO DID I I'M ACTUALLY LIKE, WAIT.

SO, UH, TRADITIONALLY IT WAS PAINTING.

UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE VAST MAJORITY NOW HAVE STARTED TO MOVE TO THIS KIND WALLPAPERING TECHNIQUE.

AND ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY THE TEAM THAT WE USED, UH, THAT WE WERE REALLY, REALLY SATISFIED WITH FOR THAT, I'M ACTUALLY ON THE BOARD OF WE WERE HERITAGE, WHICH OWNS THE RENAISSANCE PARK, WHICH IS THE ONE WHERE THE MAIN MURAL IS THE CORNER OF MAIN BRIDGE STREET.

AND THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY SOMEONE FROM MURAL PROJECT ADELPHIA AND HELPED TO ADVISE US AND GET US THE RIGHT MATERIALS AND THE RIGHT APPLICATION.

THEY'RE RESOLUTION, THEYRE ORIGINALLY DO THEY JUST DO LIKE A PAINTING? PAINTING.

AND THEN THAT'S, SO IRONICALLY FOR THAT ONE IT WAS ORIGINALLY IT WAS PAINTED ON THE ACTUAL WALL.

AND THEN, UM, WE WERE FORTUNATE CAUSE SOMEBODY TOOK VERY HIGH RESOLUTION PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE ORIGINAL ONE IN EIGHT PIECES.

IT WAS THEN STITCHED BACK TOGETHER IN, UH, IN A PHOTO PROGRAM AND THEN PRINTED FROM THAT PHOTO.

SO IT IS STITCHED BACK FROM THE ORIGINAL LARGE SIZE.

I KNOW IT'S, IT'S AT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE SECRET.

NOW THE INTERESTING THING HERE IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS IT TAKES YOU PROBABLY FROM BEING LIKE A YEAR LONG PROCESS OF BEING UP THERE ON SCAFFOLD PAINTING TO, YOU KNOW, TO THAT'S KINDA BUDGET.

THAT IS BUDGET.

UH, SO THAT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK.

UM, IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS EXPENSIVE TO DO THE APPLICATION.

OKAY.

I MEAN IT'S, IT SHOULD LAST IF AND IT SHOULD LAST LONGER.

THE, THEY GENERALLY SAY THAT THE APPLICATIONS LAST 25 PLUS YEARS.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, AND PLEASE DON'T QUOTE ME AT THESE NUMBERS, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE WAS LIKE $120,000 AND 60,000 FOR THE APPLICATIONS.

WOW.

SO IT CAN BE ALMOST LIKE HALF THE PRICE.

AND SO, UM, WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE KIND OF EMBRACED THIS CONCEPT OF MURAL ARTS PROGRAMS AND I SENT MARIA A NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS AND I DID, I BROUGHT A SET JUST FOR ME TO KIND OF LOOK AT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO READ THESE AND I, MARIA WOULD BE SHARED ONES I HAVE WITH YOU GUYS GREAT WITH YOU.

BUT WE HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS THAT WE ALREADY USE.

UM, CERTAINLY THE KIND OF THE ONE IS KIND OF OUR MURAL AND VISUAL ARTS GUIDELINES.

WE HAVE A, WHAT WE CALL BACK A PATIENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY OVERSEE, UH, KIND OF THE MURALS.

THEY'LL WORK WITH PEOPLE TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPTS.

UM, IF SOMEBODY HAS A WALL AND THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT CAN GO BOTH WAYS.

IF YOU'RE AN ARTIST AND YOU WANNA PAINT A MURAL IN PHOENIXVILLE, YOU COULD GO TO THAT.

IF YOU ARE, UH, A PROPERTY OWNER AND YOU WANNA HAVE A MURAL PAINTED ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU GO THERE TOO.

AND WE'LL MATCH THEM TOGETHER.

NOW I WILL SAY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MURALS THAT ARE REAL THAT ARE ACTUALLY CAN PAINTED ON THERE WITHOUT PERMISSION.

WITHOUT NO, WITH PERMISSION.

WE DO HAVE PERMISSION.

SO, UM, PROBABLY THE MOST FAMOUS ONES THAT ARE, ARE PAINTED DIRECTLY ONTO THE WALLS ARE THE WELCOMING PHOENIXVILLE MURAL, UM, IN BETWEEN KIND OF B DISTILLERY AND THEN WHAT IS NOW BEING HORN'S RESTAURANT THAT WELCOME MUR ALWAYS A TRADITIONAL MURAL THAT HAS BEEN HAND PAINTED ON THERE.

UM, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY MURALS CAN BE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE.

UH, AND WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS IN THE FUNDING PERSPECTIVE.

UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS MARIE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IS WE ACTUALLY BEEN HAVING PEOPLE, UM, PAINT THE ELECTRICAL BOXES OR LIKE OUR JUNCTION BOXES AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN, UM, I PROBABLY WOULD SAY WE HAVE LIKE 10 TO 12 RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE BEEN DOING IT WITH THEM IN PHASES.

GENERALLY WE DO OUT FOUR THE TIME.

WHAT HAPPENS IS WE ACTUALLY WILL PUT OUT AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND WE'LL SAY, HERE ARE THE LOCATIONS OF THESE JUNCTION BOXES, UH, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PAINTED.

THERE ARE SOME GUIDELINES, UH, GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, IT CAN'T, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE ALL THE THINGS IT CAN'T BE.

SO IT CAN'T BE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR SOMETHING.

IT CAN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE MESSAGES.

IT HAS TO BE KIND SOMETHING POSITIVE OR REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, WHAT THEY DO THEN IS THEY ACTUALLY WILL HAVE PEOPLE APPLY TO THAT SPECIFIC JUNCTION BOX AND YOU CAN SUBMIT MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS.

YOU, IT'S THE EVERY JUNCTION BOX IF YOU WANTED.

UM, AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, THEY WILL PAY A SUPPLEMENT.

UH, GENERALLY IT'S $500 FOR A SMALL JUNCTION BOX AND

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$750 FOR A LARGE BOX, AND YOU GET HALF OF IT UPFRONT TO BUY MATERIALS AND YOU GET THE OTHER HALF IN THE COMPLETE PROJECT.

BUT GENERALLY THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT WILL, UH, TAKE EACH, UH, APPLICATION.

AND, AND WHEN I SAY APPLICATION, GENERALLY THE ARTISTS WILL EVEN HAVE A MODEL.

YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BRING IN A MODEL OF LIKE WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE OR THEY'LL HAVE SOME KIND OF CONCEPT THAT SHE'LL BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE IT.

AND UM, AND THEN THEY, THE COMMITTEE WILL DECIDE WHO IS BOX.

SO THERE'S NO, AND PHOENIX, I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS .

WE JUST REPAIRED A MURAL.

SO THERE IS, WE HAVE OUR MOMENTS.

UM, THERE, THERE WAS A MURAL WE JUST HAD TO RECENTLY REPAIR ON THE BACK OF THE COLONIAL THEATER.

UH, SAME THING.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY A WALLPAPER, BUT THE ARTIST ACTUALLY CAME OUT AND REPAIRED IT WITH PAINT.

UM, BUT YES, IT DID GET UNFORTUNATELY.

UM, SO, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS, UM, THAT ACTUALLY HAVE KIND OF SPECIFIC SPACES AND COMMUNITIES AND ART SPACES THEY'LL ACTUALLY KIND OF WELCOME THEIR AND UM, I KNOW ACTUALLY AT MY UNIVERSITY IN FLORIDA, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY STARTED DOING IS ACTUALLY A ROCK PROGRAM.

SO THEY HAVE A COLLECTION OF GIANT BOULDERS AND THEY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO KINDA YEAH.

UM, SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LIKE SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN INSTALLATIONS, JUST DEPENDING ON WHICH DIRECTION YOU, A LOT OF OURS AND PHOENIX STILL HAVE VERY, BEEN VERY SPECIFIC AROUND KIND ARTS AND VISUAL ARTS.

UM, SO YOU ALSO KIND OF SEE ON THE CORNER PHOENIX VILLAGE, UH, THAT IS ACTUALLY COMMUNICATED TO PHOENIX ON THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

UM, THERE'S ONE HIDDEN AROUND THE, UM, SAAM, UH, AT THE END OF THE IRON HILL COMPLEX.

IT'S, UH, KITES.

THERE'S KITES THERE.

UM, YOU HAVE, UH, LIKE, UH, ON CHURCH STREET, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY WHO JUST PAINTED PXD ON THE SIDE OF THEIR HOUSE.

SO IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE KIND OF PEOPLE IN THE SPACES THAT THEY CHOOSE TO, TO DO IT.

UM, GENERALLY FOR OUR MURAL AND VISUAL ARTS PROGRAMS, WE TRY TO FIND THINGS THAT ARE, UM, APPLICABLE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO TRADITIONALLY THEY'LL PAINT EITHER VINTAGE SCENES, UH, OR THEY WILL PAINT, UH, SOMETHING MAYBE LIKE RECENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE FIRST FRIDAY.

THAT'S THE BIG ONE THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A REAL IN THE MAIN AND BRIDGE STREET PARKING LOT.

SO THAT'S THERE.

HAY.

UH, SHE'S A VERY, UH, REGIONALLY ACCLAIMED ARTIST AND SHE LIVES RIGHT.

BUT THAT FIRST FRIDAY IS PAINT THERE.

SHE ALSO DID THE GATEWAY PHARMACY BY THE HOSPITAL.

GATEWAY PHARMACY PUT YOU INTO LIKE 1950S PHARMACY.

UH, SO THE, WELL, HOW DO YOU GUYS COME UP WITH THE GUIDELINES? SO I, I DID BRING A SECTION.

YOU COULD TOTALLY JUST USE OURS.

WE PROBABLY SHOULD BE COMPLETELY HONEST.

UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO'VE WORKED WITH THE PHILADELPHIA MURAL ARTS PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I, I'M, I'M KIND OF ASSUMING THAT OUR GUIDELINES PROBABLY ARE, WE SHARE, WE SHARE AND SHARED ACROSS THE GOOD COMPLIMENT TO USE SOMEBODY ELSE.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO I, I'M SURE WE HAVE SHARED THEM ALONG THE WAY.

I'M HAPPY TO SHARE OURS.

T THANK YOU.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT GENERALLY GIVES YOU BASIC GUIDELINES OF LIKE, CAUSE THEY ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE HARDEST PART THESE GUIDELINES PUT TOGETHER.

AND THEN I'M ASSUMING THE COMMITTEE THEN APPROVES OR DENIES WORK DEPENDING ON THESE GUYS.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

AND THERE'S EVEN APPLICATIONS.

WE EVEN HAVE A LITTLE APPLICATION I BROUGHT ALL, BRING ANY THERE, I CALL THERE AND THE ARTISTS PAY FOR THE ELECTRIC BOXES.

LIKE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO PAY TO GET THEIR ARTWORK ON THERE.

SO, SO THEY, THEY GET THE SUPPLEMENTS, OH, GET THE 500.

SOMEONE WOULD COME IN WITH THAT MONEY TO FUND GETTING THE ELECTRIC.

TRADITIONALLY, LIKE OUR COMMUNITY, PHOENIXVILLE COMMUNITY HEALTH FOUNDATION HAS BEEN A BIG PARTNER IN THAT.

UM, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF THE KINDA FUNDING FOR THOSE.

AND, AND GENERALLY WE DO THEM KIND OF IN PHASES.

SO YOU'LL SEE LIKE ONE YEAR WE'LL DO, UM, WE'LL DO FOUR OF THEM.

UH, THE NEXT YEAR WE'LL DO ANOTHER FOUR.

OH, WE ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE, BUT WE ACTUALLY, UM, THE UNIFICATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE ALSO MAKES, UM, A LITTLE, NOT MAKES LOOSE TERM.

THEY RECEIVE SOME FUNDING FROM THE KIND OF SPONSORING OF PLANTERS.

SO OUR BIG PLANTERS DOWN BRIDGE STREET IN PHOENIXVILLE.

OKAY.

THE, LIKE OLD IRON POTS, THEY ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY SPONSOR THEM THEIR NAME ON THE COMPUTER AND SO THEY USE THAT FUNDING A LOT OF TIMES TO HELP.

SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE, ARE ON YOUR BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE? OR LIKE HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT FORMING THAT? SO IT, IT IS PART OF THE BOROUGH.

IT IS ONE OF THE BUR COMMITTEES.

I, IT IS LESS THAN 10 I WANNA SAY.

UM, UH, THERE ACTUALLY, HEY WHO'S, UH, THE MURAL ARTIST IS A MEMBER OF THAT, UH, ERIC WHO IS ONE

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OF THE, THAT WE, UM, SO WAS JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND INTERESTINGHMM.

.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S KIND, IT'S SPUN OUT OF, OF THE OTHER COMMITTEE.

SO WE HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEPARATE PARTS OF RECREATION PROGRAM.

RIGHT.

UM, IT'S SOMETHING I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE INFORMATION AND ALL THE GUIDELINES ALREADY FIND PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED YEAH.

WOULD HAVE ANY TRUST IN DOING IT.

I WILL SAY THAT USUALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE UTILITY BOX, UM, APPLICATIONS, WE, WE GET AND WE GET MORE APPLICANTS THAN WE DO.

SO WE'RE GENERALLY HAVING TO SELECT THAT'S A GOOD PROBLEM.

AND IT'S LOCAL.

THEY'LL BASICALLY TURN IN LIKE KIND OF A PORTFOLIO AND SOME EVEN WILL TURN IN LIKE A MINI VERSION BECAUSE WE ASK THAT YOU PAINT ALL THE SIDES AND YOU PAINT THE TOP.

SO SOME PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY THEN CREATE LIKE A MINI VERSION, LIKE A LITTLE PROTOTYPE PROTOTYPE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE DOG'S HEAD WILL BE, WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE KIND OF PIECES.

AND, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME, AND, AND THEY RANGE, SO LIKE ONE OF THEM IS POSTCARDS OF PHOENIX STILL.

SO THEY USED OLD POSTCARDS AND THEY KIND OF MADE A, A MASS MASH UP OF ALL THE POSTCARDS.

ONE IS IS DOGS.

AND SO YOU ACTUALLY SEE LIKE THE DOGS BLOCKING ALONG THE SIDE OF IT.

UM, OTHERS ARE MOVING SIMPLE'S, LIKE KINDA A CHILD'S VIEW, LIKE A, LIKE WHAT THE DOWNTOWN LIKE, SO SPANS.

BUT IT'S NEAT PROJECT.

IT'S FUN TO KIND WALK AROUND AND FIND ALL OF THEM.

SO ON THE UTILITY BOX, IS THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST PAINTED MM-HMM.

, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

THAT'S PROBABLY OUR GONNA BE OUR INITIAL MEETING THAT AND YET WE WERE THINKING, UM, THE RAISED DRAINS OUT ON THE, WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE RIVER CROSS TRAIL TO GET ON THE OOK RIVER TRAIL, WE HAVE ALL THESE RAISED DRAINS THAT PEOPLE PUT MARIO ON AND IT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE COULD SAVED BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY DECENT ONE.

UM, SO WE WERE THINKING ABOUT USING THOSE, SO ALONG THE OOK RIVER, LIKE RIGHT AROUND MCAL, WE WOULD HAVE CERTAIN ONES OUT THERE TOO.

AND CAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A MAIN STREET, LIKE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

IT'S KINDA LIKE A YOU'RE HEADING DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST ONE THING PROBABLY.

AND I MEAN, AND CERTAINLY I THINK YOU COULD USE THIS AS A STARTING GUIDELINE.

I WILL NOT TAKE ANY, UH, CREDIT OR PRETEND TO BE AS AN ARTIST.

BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY IS DEFINITELY, LIKE I NOTICED IN THE GUIDELINES, LIKE WE HAD ARTISTS LIKE THERE ACTUALLY GO IN AND SPECIFICALLY THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO SPECIFIC PREP TO THE, TO THE BOX.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO USE SPECIFIC TYPES OF PAINT.

UH, AND THEN THERE'S REQUIRED TO DO SPECIFIC TYPES OF PRIMERS AND SEALANTS, UH, TO MAKE IT AS WEATHERPROOF AND ALSO GRAFFITI PROOF AS POSSIBLE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA FIND AN ARTIST WHO COULD KIND MAYBE UPDATE THESE GUIDELINES FOR THE SPECIFIC TYPE OF MEDIUM THAT YOU OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND DON'T PAINT ON ANY MATERIAL .

IT'S A REALLY SAD SITUATION.

THAT'S, IT WAS A BUILDING, BASICALLY RENAISSANCE PARK.

LONG STORY SHORT WAS A BUILDING AND THE BUILDING BURNT DOWN.

RIGHT.

AND WHAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE IS THAT THEY BASICALLY, THE WALL THAT WAS LEFT THAT THEY WERE PAINTING ON, THAT THEY THOUGHT WAS THE OUTSIDE WALL WAS ACTUALLY INTERIOR WALL.

AND THEN THE WATER, IT'S NOT USED TO THE ELEMENTS.

IT WAS NOT NINE YARDS.

THE ELEMENTS.

OH MY GOSH.

AND THEN IT EVENTUALLY KIND OF FELL, I'M LOOKING AT PICTURES OF IT BEFORE YOU GUYS REDID IT AGAIN.

AND YOU CAN SEE NOW THAT IT'S BEEN REDONE, IT'S MUCH MORE VIBRANT.

THE COLORS ARE MUCH MORE, UM, SO I MEAN YOU, AND IT'S, IT'S INDISTINGUISHABLE BETWEEN THE PAINT AND THE REAL, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY FOR BIG MURALS.

I MEAN YOU WANT A BIG, I MEAN, I'VE WALKED BY THAT A MILLION TIMES AND I WOULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT THAT PAPER, WHY DID SOMEONE GET UP THERE? I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE UP THERE TO PAINT IT.

BUT THERE WE GO.

KNOWING I WON'T TELL ANYONE YOU'RE SPEAK .

THE ORIGINAL WOULD'VE BEEN DONE IN THE LATE 1980S.

WOW.

HOW LONG DID YOU SAY WITH THE UTILITY BOX PROJECT FROM START TO FINISH? THE, IT DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG AT ALL.

I THINK THEY USUALLY HAVE A, SO THEY DO GIVE THEM GUIDELINES.

THEY, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS, IN THIS SCENARIO, THEY HAD TO SUBMIT THEIR CONCEPTS BY AUGUST 1ST.

UM, THE SELECTIONS WERE MADE BY AUGUST 10TH AND THEN THEY HAD UNTIL OCTOBER 31ST.

DO THEY ADVERTISE IT THEN ON LIKE A WEBSITE? MM-HMM.

LIKE, SO, OKAY.

SO OUR, OUR UNIFICATION COMMITTEE ACTUALLY HAS THEIR OWN WEBSITE UNDERNEATH A FOR WEBSITE.

AND UM, THIS APPLICATION WASN'T ON THERE.

I FOUND THIS WAS ON A, THAT THERE'S, UH, WEBSITE, BUT, UH, PROBABLY YOU PUT THE APPLICATION HERE TOO.

YEAH.

UH, THIS ONE ACTUALLY, THEY'LL EVEN GO THROUGH THIS ONE OUT.

IT SPELLS OUT,

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UM, SPECIFICALLY, UH, EACH BOX AND IT'S LOCATION AND THEN YOU CAN APPLY TO THAT SPECIFIC BOX, FUN NIGHT OUTS.

BUT THAT KIND OF STUFF WE JUST NEED, LIKE WHAT WOULD BE AWESOME IF WE KNOW ANY LIKE ARTISTS IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT.

TO MAYBE SEE IF THERE WOULD BE WILLING TO KIND OF SIT WITH THAT PERSON AND KIND OF GO OVER THE ROPES AND STUFF.

THERE WAS, THERE WAS RUMOR FOR A WHILE THAT SPRINGBOARD WAS TRYING TO GET THOSE CERAMIC RAMS. MM-HMM.

PUT IN EVERYONE'S YARD, LIKE IF YOU WANTED ONE.

AND THEN IT TURNED INTO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, THE TOWNSHIP WAS TELL LIKE, YES.

LIKE YOU CAN DO THAT AS LONG AS IT'S NOT LIKE THIS HUGE STRUCTURE, THEN YOU PERMIT ALL THESE AND THEN LIKE, WELL NO, THEY'RE GONNA PAINT THEM ONCE THEY GET THEM.

AND THEN IT WAS ALL THESE GUIDELINES AGAIN.

LIKE WE JUST WEREN'T PREPARED FOR THE INFLUX OF WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

SO, BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY EVER PURSUED THAT.

SO THERE'S ONE, WE, I KNOW ONE'S ONE, I DON'T HOW, BUT THIS COULD, COULD KIND OF BE OUR RAM OF SORT.

MONTGOMERY COUNTY HAS A STUDIO TOUR.

OKAY.

A LOT OF THE ARTISTS ON THE STUDIO.

I KNOW CHESTER COUNTY DEFINITELY HAS ONE.

I THINK MONTGOMERY COUNTY MAY HAVE, BUT A LOT OF THE ARTISTS ON THE STUDIO TOUR ACTUALLY HAVE ALSO BEEN BEEN OH BOX ARTISTS.

THEY'VE COME AND DONE THAT.

VERY COOL.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A STUDIO TOUR, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.

IT'S GREAT.

IT'S UH, THE STUDIO TOUR CHESTER COUNTY.

IT'S, IT'S COUNTYWIDE.

BUT WHAT YOU DO IS IT'S A WEEKEND WHERE YOU ACTUALLY GO TO THE STUDIOS OF ARTISTS AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS ONE PAINTING, REGARDLESS OF HOW FAMOUS THE ARTIST IS, THEY'LL ALWAYS HAVE ONE PAINTING.

YOU CAN BUY IT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FROM FIRST PERSON WE GET THERE AND BUY THAT.

RIGHT.

OH.

AND THE PEOPLE WAIT IN THEIR YARDS.

OH, I BET.

YEAH.

TRYING TO GET I BELIEVE IT.

NO, WE HAVE A VERY SMALL COMMUNITY ART WELL THAT I HAVE YET TO MARKET IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER RIGHT NOW.

SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO WORKING ON THING UNIFICATION COMMITTEE TOGETHER.

AND THEN SO MANY OTHER POTENTIAL YOU AND MARIA WANNA BE ON LIKE AN EIGHTH COMMITTEE I THINK, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD.

I THINK IT'S GETTING MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND MAYBE I DO THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD WILLING BE SET TO DO THIS.

WELL IT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE WE GOT GRAFFITI GET THE, SO IT'D BE NICE TO LIKE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.

CUZ THAT'S WHAT LAURIE HIGGINS ON OUR BOARD, OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS ALWAYS ASKED ME.

SHE'S LIKE, CAN YOU PUT UP A WOODEN WALL SOMEWHERE? PEOPLE CAN JUST GO TO IN GRAFFITI AND PUT WHATEVER.

AND IF IT'S REALLY BAD, WE'LL COME OVER AND PAINT OVER IT.

LIKE, SHE'S ALWAYS WANTED THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND I ALWAYS FELT LIKE THAT JUST OPENS THE FLOODGATES FOR THINGS THAT I NECESSARILY DON'T HAVE A PROPERTY TO.

MOST OF MY PROPERTIES HAVE PLAYGROUND.

LIKE I CAN'T HAVE RANDOM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE PUT UP THERE.

THAT'S ALL.

SO THIS IS KIND OF MY SEGUE INTO THAT.

AND I'VE READ TOO THAT WE, IF IF PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE INCLINED TO DO GRAFFITI, IF THERE IS A MURAL OR SOMETHING, THEY'RE LESS INCLINED BECAUSE IT, THEY RESPECT THE ARTISTS, RIGHT.

SO THEY, THEY WON'T, AT LEAST THEIR POWER BOXES, THEY GRAFFITI.

THEY WON'T TAG IT TYPICALLY.

SO, SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE SOME SOMETIMES THAT IT HAPPENS, BUT, SO YEAH.

CUZ IT'S REALLY DIFFERENT.

LIKE WHEN WE WERE FIRST TALKING ABOUT LIKE GRAFFITI WE'RE, I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALLY EVOLVING TO IS MORE LIKE A MURAL ARTS PROGRAM.

YES.

YES.

NOT NECESSARILY, NOT NECESSARILY GRAFFITI.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS CALLED IT.

YES.

AND I, THERE IS SOME, THERE ARE SOME OTHER MODELS, I'LL FIND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THEM.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY GROUPS THAT WILL COME INTO A COMMUNITY AND DO X NUMBER OF MURALS IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

BUT I THINK, I THINK IT'S MORE SPECIAL WHEN YOU HAVE THAT IN PEOPLE LOCALLY.

MM-HMM.

.

CAUSE YOU CAN SAY, OH THIS IS BY ARTISTS SO AND SO I THINK THEY'LL SEE THEIR WORK.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND YOU KNOW, I MIGHT SEE THE WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE GALLERY OR ON THE ART WALL, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR ART WALL AND BE ABLE TO GO AND SEE THAT WORK SOMEWHERE.

I THINK THAT BRINGS THAT COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN IT'S ALL LOCAL PEOPLE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET BETTER AT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE COOL.

I COULD EVEN SAY LIKE HAVING A, A TABLE I CAN THOUGHT LIKE FALL FAST OF THE BEAUTIFICATION PART WHERE SOME MEET THE ARTIST.

ABSOLUTELY.

LIKE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FUN THINGS WE COULD DO WITH THIS MM-HMM.

.

SO IT WOULD BE REALLY, I MEAN, KIND OF GO THROUGH ALL THAT MATERIAL AND I'LL MAKE SURE I SEND THIS TO EVERYONE WHEN DOING, UM, THIS BE SLOW QUESTION, BUT WHEN ARTISTS ARE PAINTING UTILITY BOXES, ARE THERE ANY SAFETY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? DOES POWER NEED TO BE DISCONNECTED FROM UTILITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THAT'S A VERY, I'M NOT QUITE THE , YOU KNOW, I'M ACTUALLY, I'M NOT QUITE

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SURE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY WANNA RESEARCH.

I HAD DEFINITELY THE ONLY, THE HIGHER VIEW OF IT.

UM, I YOU, I, YOU KNOW, IT DOES DEPEND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.

THE BOX IS LOCATED TRADITIONALLY IT'S ON THE OUTSIDE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID NOTICE IN HERE IS LIKE THEY DO VERY SPECIFICALLY OUTLINE THAT YOU CAN'T LIKE, UM, COVER THE, LIKE THE, UM, YOU CAN'T COVER THE LAW.

UH, IT DOES ALSO, IRONICALLY ENOUGH, IT SAYS IN HERE, THEY CAN'T, UM, MIMIC ANY TYPE OF SIGNS IN THERE.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO THEY CAN'T HAVE LIKE A WHAT LOOKS LIKE A STOP SIGN OR A STOPLIGHT.

YEAH.

SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LIKE DISCONNECTING THE POWER.

I WOULD THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY, I MEAN THE WHOLE IDEA WITH IS TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE WALKING BY, PUT THEIR HANDS ALL OVER IT.

YEAH'S, I I GUESS THAT THEY STILL CAME INSIDE THE BOX.

YEAH.

USUALLY THE BOX WILL STAY LOCKED.

TRAFFIC.

YEAH.

TRAFFIC.

I, AND WE DID EXPAND IT BEYOND THIS.

SO ODDLY ENOUGH, LIKE WE EXPANDED BEYOND THE BOXES AND UM, FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS DURING COVID, WE ACTUALLY EVEN HAD PEOPLE COME OUT AND PAINT THE, UH, BARRICADES.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE GIANT JERSEY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I DID SEE THAT.

THE FRONT TO, WE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE PAINT THOSE TOO.

SAW THAT WAS BROAD.

WE'LL PAINT ANYTHING.

YEAH.

WHAT CAN WE PAINT? YEAH.

IT'S ALL LIKE GREEN AND FRIENDLY TO THE ENVIRONMENT TO PAINT THAT EVERYTHING.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY PAINT THAT WASN'T YEAH, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S NOT AN APPLICATION.

APPLICATION.

THAT'D BE, YEAH.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, CALLING ALL ARTISTS TYPE OF THING.

PEOPLE INTERESTED IN BEING ON A COMMITTEE.

AND THEN ALSO, LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, TERESA, SHE'S ON THE COMMITTEE BUT SHE'S ALSO, AND SHE HAS DONE SOME WORK, SO I'D BE INTERESTING.

AND YOU ENGAGE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO TRADITIONALLY ENGAGE PEOPLE WHO MEAN AND MAY NOT SERVE LIKE ON A, A TRADITIONAL COMMITTEE BUT WOULD WANT TO BE LIKE ON SOMETHING THAT'S BASED ON ARTS.

OH YEAH.

SO THEN YOU GET A GOOD AMOUNT OF DIVERSITY AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF ART.

WE HAVE THIS SORT OF BEAUTIFICATION AND BEAUTIFICATION ALSO COVERS NOT ONLY NEURAL ARTS, BUT UM, FOR EXAMPLE THEY COVER THE PLANTERS, UH, IN YOUR THING.

AND THEN THEY'LL WORK CLOSELY ALSO LIKE, YOU KNOW, TREE ADVISORY MISSIONS A SEPARATE ENTITY.

BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY'LL, WHO OVERSEES THE BEAUTIFICATION? IT'S ALL THE PARK.

IT'S VOLUNTEERS, BUT IT WOULD KIND OF, THEY, YOU KNOW, HAVE LIKE PSEUDO OFFICIAL ROLE.

SO IT'S, IT'S MORE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WRITTEN IN OUR CODE, BUT IT'S A SEPARATE.

OKAY.

I WASN'T SURE IF THAT'S LIKE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, LIKE OVERSEES THE MULTIPLE BOARD TEAM COMMITTEES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I WOULD SAY LIKE THEY ALL, SOMEHOW THEY ALL LIKE COORDINATE WITH THE BOROUGH COUNCIL.

SURE.

SO THEY ALL SOMEHOW HAVE A RELATIONSHIP OR A LIAISON AT LEAST, LIKE, LIKE UNIFICATION WILL HAVE A LIAISON FROM THE BOROUGH COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S TRADITIONAL.

THE BOROUGH.

YEAH.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, THANK YOU.

THEY EVEN DO YOU KNOW THE LIGHTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW? YOU KNOW, WE'RE INSTALLING LIGHTS ON THE TREE, LIKE THAT KINDA STUFF.

OKAY.

THAT'S KIND OF COOL.

IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE .

I MEAN IT COULD EXPAND WELL 10 ACTIVE PEOPLE WHO THEN THEN KIND OF PROBABLY GET THEIR OWN VOLUNTEERS TO EXECUTE.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IF WE CAN PROVIDE MORE SUPPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL LEAVE THESE WITH YOU AND THEN MARIA HAS THE OTHER, THE ELECTRONIC COPIES.

SO PLEASE FEEL FREE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT WAS NICE TO SEE.

NICE MEETING FOR YOUR TIME.

ABSOLUTELY.

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL.

ENJOY THE WORK NIGHT.

THANK YOU TOO.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.

YEAH.

DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU SENT IT CAUSE I HAD ASKED HIM AROUND FOUR O'CLOCK.

I I, WELL I SAW YOU HAD SENT THAT EMAIL LIKE, BUT TODAY CUZ I SAID, PETER, YOU NEVER ANSWERED ARE YOU COMING? ? AND SO HE, HE TEXT ME LIKE AROUND FOUR.

YEAH.

SIX O'CLOCK I'LL BE THERE.

URSULA I ONLY KNOW HIS MAYOR.

PETE .

I LOOKED HIS LAST NAME FOR YOU.

I I GOT IT FROM YOUR EMAIL.

I WAS LIKE, I MEAN I NEVER MET HIM, BUT, RIGHT.

WELL I THINK, UM, S C IF THERE IS, YOU SAID YOU HAVE AN ELECTRONIC

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COPY? HE, YEAH, HE SAID THAT HE SENT IT TO ME, BUT HE PROBABLY SENT IT AFTER WE HAD FINISHED TALKING.

YEAH.

AND ALL.

SO I HAVEN'T EVEN LOOKED AT MY COMPUTER.

SO WHEN HE SAID MARIA HAS IT, I WAS LIKE, I DO THEN YOU COULD JUST SEND IT TO, TO TAYLOR, RIGHT? OR, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND IT TO EVERYONE OR JUST SEND IT TO YOU AND THEN YOU'LL SEND IT OUT WITH JUST SEND IT TO ME AND TAYLOR AND THEN WE'LL PUT, HE'LL PUT IN THE MINUTES AND THEN I'LL HAVE IT TO SHARE WITH.

OKAY.

I WILL DO THAT.

BIG GUYS.

ALL RIGHT.

PERFECT.

DON'T MY PHONE IN THE CAR.

.

I NEED YOU TO GET MY PICTURE.

I KNOW IT'S SITTING.

OH, YOU IT.

OH, LOOK AT YOU MINUTE.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON.

UM, THAT WAS GREAT.

SO WE'LL KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK PROBABLY DECEMBER AND JANUARY MEETINGS WILL START TALKING MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO ACTUALLY EXECUTE THIS AFTER WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ EVERYTHING, DIGEST IT.

BUT IT DOES, IT, IT STILL WOULD BE GOOD TO KIND OF START SPREADING THE WORDS LIKE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE FIND OUT IF THERE'S ARTISTS THAT YOU KNOW OF AND JUST KIND OF PEAK SOME INTEREST IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THINK WE MAY WANT TO MM-HMM.

PURSUE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE A FACEBOOK PAGE JUST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOME OTHER WAY AROUND.

YEAH.

AND THEY WOULD KNOW EACH OTHER BETTER.

WE'D BE LOOKING FOR YOU TO LIKE TALK TO LIKE OUR TEACHERS AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW ANY STUDENTS WHO WOULD YOU KNOW OR WOULD BE INTERESTED.

CUZ IT WOULD BE NICE TO KIND OF GET THAT LEVEL OF DIVERSITY ON A COMMITTEE TOO.

SO THAT YOU GUYS.

ALL RIGHT.

GREAT.

THAT WAS, UM, VERY INTERESTING.

OKAY.

SO, UM, MOVING ON, LOOKING AT THE AGENDA.

NO REAL, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO WE'LL MOVE INTO NEW BUSINESS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE, WHICH I GUESS WE'LL BE CALLING UP LIKE A MURAL.

MURAL REPEAT.

YEAH.

A MURAL ARTS PROGRAM OR WHATEVER WE WANNA CALL IT.

UM, SO ALL RIGHT.

PARK BOARD UPDATES.

OH YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO JUST KIND OF GIVE A QUICK LITTLE OVERVIEW.

I DID GO WITH SARAH TO THE P R PS UM, WORKSHOP AND IT WAS, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.

I I MEAN, I, I DID, I HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT.

SO I, IT IT WAS A MUCH, UM, SMALLER LIKE RECREATION TYPE FACILITY THAN WHAT WE HAVE.

BUT, UM, THAT HE'S GONES P MAYOR P IS IT PETE MOTORCYCLE? NO WAY.

THAT'S SO FUNNY.

THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A ABOUT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED.

I WAS GONNA SAY, I HONESTLY, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED.

I THINK IT'S, YEAH, I THINK IT IS TO BE HONEST.

UM, SO, UM, THE WORKSHOP WAS AT CHESTNUT HILL AND IT WAS QUITE A RIDE, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS FUN.

UM, SO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IS THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST WORKSHOP THAT THEY WERE DOING AND THEY'RE BEGINNING TO ROLL IT OUT AND GOING TO DIFFERENT TOWNSHIPS.

SO OF COURSE SARAH AND I OFFERED OUR TOWNSHIP AS, AS AS ONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN.

THEY'RE JUST STARTING IT UP.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A PRETTY COOL THING TO DO.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THEN LIKE, LIKE AGAIN, I'M PRETTY IGNORANT TO THIS WHOLE P R P PS GREW, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THERE'S ALL THESE BOOKS ON, YOU KNOW, RECREATION AND PARKS, BOARD HANDBOOKS.

SO, SO SARAH SAID SHE ACTUALLY HAS A COPY OF THOSE BOOKS, SO I'M GOING TO SEND HER AN EMAIL SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA GET, SO I, I'D LIKE TO LOOK THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BOARD HANDBOOK JUST TO KIND OF SEE, GET SOME IDEAS.

SO I WILL, I WILL DO THAT.

AND ONE OF THE, THE, UM, THE SPEAKERS THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY THE BEST AND APPARENTLY HE GETS, SARAH WAS TELLING ME HE GETS ALL THE, THE AWARDS.

HIS NAME IS JASON LANG AND HE'S FROM EAST OCEAN.

I ABSOLUT.

TOTALLY AGREE.

AGAIN, EVERYTHING AND REALLY NICE.

AND I ACTUALLY WROTE DOWN LIKE WHAT WAS GOOD WAS THE ENTHUSIASM.

LIKE HE IS LIKE STOKED TO, TO BE LIKE, AND SO IT WAS REALLY GOOD.

SO HE, SOME OF THE KEY POINTS HE DID TALK ABOUT AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AND TOO BAD, SANDY'S NOT HERE, BUT HE DID SAY THAT PICKLEBALL IS CLEARLY ON THE RISE AND THAT YOU GOTTA GET WITH THE PROGRAM ON THAT CUZ IT IS A MULTI-GENERATIONAL, UM, SPORT.

AND IT, IT DOES BRING A LOT OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

UM, HE TALKED ABOUT PARKS AND REC, LIKE WHAT WE NEED TO ALWAYS REMEMBER EVERY DAY

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IS THAT IT SEPARATES OR IT MAKES A GOOD TOWNSHIP A GREAT TOWNSHIP AND IT IN INCREASES YOUR PROPERTY VALUES, IT ELEVATES YOUR TAX BASE AND IT REALLY MATTERS TO THE RESIDENTS.

AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KINDA, I I, I KNOW HE'S MAKING ME FEEL A SENSE OF PRIDE JUST THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN THIS AND THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO, TO THE RESIDENTS.

AND HE TALKED ABOUT THIRD PARTY EVENTS, WHICH I, I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THIS WAY.

THIRD PARTY EVENTS ARE OUR EVENTS TOO, BECAUSE THEY TOTALLY REFLECT ON THE TOWNSHIP AND THE PARKS AND BRA.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK ANOTHER WAY TO THINK ABOUT THAT IS WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE HAVING THINGS, YOU KNOW, THINGS HERE, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S BUTTONED UP AND APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT, IT IS IN ESSENCE OUR EVENT.

AND HE, UM, TALKED ABOUT HOW HE LOOKS AT HIS, UH, VOLUNTEERS AS HUMAN CAPITAL.

LIKE THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT.

AND HE SAID THAT WHEN IT'S A BIG EVENT, HE MEETS WITH HIS VOLUNTEERS TWO MONTHS BEFORE AND GOES KIND OF GET, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOES AN OVERARCHING OF WHAT HE'S GOING NEED, TRY TO MATCH SKILL SETS, TRY TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS KIND OF ON BOARD AND ENTHUSIASTIC.

AND HE FINDS THAT THAT HELPS, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE EVENT GO SMOOTHER BECAUSE VOLUNTEERS ARE SO CUTE TOO.

CLEARLY A BIG EVENT.

AND HE DID ACTUALLY, AND SARAH TOOK A PICTURE OF THIS SLIDE, WHICH I SHOULD TELL HER A REMINDER TO SEND TO YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, BUT HE DID HAVE A, A SLIDE ON JUST LIKE HOW HE'S LIKE A SCHEMATIC OF HOW HE, YOU KNOW, ORCHESTRATES AN EVENT.

AND ONE OF THE EVENTS I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WOULD LOVE THIS ONE IS THAT HE SAID THE EASIEST EVENT TO DO IS A FOOD TRUCK THEN.

SO, YOU KNOW, HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE AT HIS FOOD TRUCK EVENT WERE AND WAS THAT HE SPONSORED US.

WELL YEAH, AND HE, HE SAID THAT, HE SAID LITERALLY HE SAID, IT TOOK ME A COUPLE HOURS TO PUT TOGETHER.

HE SAID, NOW, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I'M VERY FORTUNATE THOUGH.

HE DOESN'T HAVE, HE DOESN'T HAVE THE, LIKE, THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE LEAVING, GETTING FOOD TRUCKS.

BUT HE SAID THAT HE JUST, HE WAS LIKE, YOU NEED ONE, ONE HOT FOOD TRUCK FOR 500 PEOPLE.

HE HAD LIKE A COUPLE THOUSAND.

IT WAS LIKE THE FULLEST, I GUESS YOU GUYS COULD SPEAK TO IT, BUT, UM, HE SAID ALL HE DID WAS GET A BAND AND THEN GET, UM, YOU KNOW, BEER AND WINE.

AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TOO AND HOW THEY COME WITH THEIR OWN POWER, POWER LINE.

THEY COME WITH THEIR OWN POWER.

YEAH.

THEY, AND HE'S, HE SAID IT'S SO POPULAR AND IT'S, IT'S A GREAT, YOU KNOW, HE THOUGHT IT WAS A, UM, AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE, THE EVENT THAT HE KIND OF WENT THROUGH.

UM, AND THEN HE, HE DID TALK ABOUT HOW SOMETIMES, AND I THINK WE MAY EXPERIENCE THIS, YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT, CAUSE I WAS WORKING AT THE, UM, AT THE BEER GARDEN AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT, THE, THE FENCE AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE SAYING LIKE, WHAT WE HATE, WE HATE THAT.

LIKE MY FAMILY IS RIGHT THERE AT THE PICNIC TABLE.

I JUST WANNA SIT WITH MY FAMILY WITH MY BEER OR I STILL WANT TO WALK AROUND.

AND, AND ONE GUY SAID, I WENT TO THE MUSIC FEST.

YEAH, YOUR MUSIC FEST AT ANDERSON PARK.

MM-HMM.

, YOU WALKED AROUND WITH ALCOHOL.

WHAT'S THIS MAKES NO SENSE.

AND I WAS JUST LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

I'LL BE SURE TO BRING IT UP AT OUR, YOU KNOW, SO, AND, AND WHAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, JASON WAS SAYING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE STARTED OFF WITH THE SNOW FENCE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH THE SOLICITORS AND THE POLICE GOT THEM TO KIND OF SEE THE PROPERTY AS THE BOUNDARY MM-HMM.

AND I DON'T KNOW, WE GOT HALFWAY THIS YEAR.

YEAH.

SO IT, IT'S A, IT'S, I GUESS IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

HOW COULD ONE FACILITY BE BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE HERE.

IT'S ALSO THE LIABILITY OF THE COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OF AGE.

YEAH.

I I THINK YOU COULD HAVE THAT, CERTAINLY HAVE THAT AS A YEAH.

BUT THE CONCERN WAS AT THIS LOCATION, UM, BECAUSE GENERALLY WE GET TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE AT COMMUNITY DAY AS WE DO THROUGHOUT MUSIC.

THIS YEAR.

WE GOT TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE DID.

BUT THERE WAS ALSO, BECAUSE THE FIREHOUSE WAS OPENING, THEY DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE CROSSING BLACKROCK WITH BEVERAGE.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHY NEXT YEAR WE WON'T HAVE THE FIREHOUSE AS AN ATTRACTION.

EVERYTHING WILL BE ON

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THIS CAMPUS SO IT CAN CHANGE.

BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THE POLICE HAD.

THEY WERE LIKE, I'D JUST RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY.

AND I DID MAKE THE BEER GARDEN SMALLER THAN I NECESSARILY HAD TO BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT, WHEN THEY PUT UP THE BOUNCE HOUSES THAT DAY, WE CAN GET INTO THIS AS WE GET INTO THE NEXT THING.

BUT THERE WAS WAS A COUPLE BACKEND THINGS.

OKAY.

SO, I MEAN I THINK THAT LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE PULSE OF THAT MM-HMM.

LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T KIND OF, BUT, BUT YEAH.

BUT I DO, I MEAN PEOPLE DID KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE ME A LITTLE.

SURE.

IT WAS, IT WAS NOT COMFORTABLE AT AT TIMES, BUT YEAH, I IT .

YEAH, .

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND THEN, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS HE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S TEASING BECAUSE HE WANT, HE WINS A LOT OF AWARDS.

RIGHT.

BUT HE, HE, HE SHARED WITH US, AND MAYBE HE SHARES THIS IN OTHER WORKSHOPS, BUT HE SAID THAT THAT'S NOT A MISTAKE.

HE SAID, THAT WAS MY, LIKE THAT WAS PLANNED.

HE SAID, I SELF-NOMINATE MM-HMM.

ALL THE TIME.

YEAH.

AND HE SAID, AND THE REASON FOR THAT, HE SAID THE REASON FOR THAT IS THEY WERE BUILDING A Y CLOSE TO I GUESS WHERE HIS, HIS FACILITY WAS MM-HMM.

.

AND HE SAID, AND I, I WAS FEELING A LITTLE THREATENED, HE SAID, TO BE HONEST, THAT THEY MAY JUST POSE DOWN THE PARKS AND REC AND IT WOULD BE THE WHY.

AND HE SAID, AND I DECIDED I'M GONNA GET AS MANY AWARDS AND I WANT MY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, IT'S NOTHING GOOD TO KNOW HOW GOOD THIS IS, IS I WANT, THE COMMUNITY'S NOT WRONG TO SEE THAT, THE AWARDS.

AND HE SAID, AND I WANT MY BOARD, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO GET THEIR PICTURE IN THE PAPER WITH ME HOLDING THE AWARD THAT WE JUST GOT FOR BUILDING A PARK OR, AND HE SAID IT'S A COMBINATION OF RIGHT SELFISHLY JOB SECURITY, HE MM-HMM.

, HE SAID, BUT WRONG WITH THIS.

I STARTED REALIZING THAT IT ALSO BLENDED MORE RESPECT TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE SOMETIMES IS THE OPINION THAT THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST FUN AND DANCE.

SO I, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND LIKE, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH NOMINATING, BUT WE SHOULD CONSIDER SELF NOMINAT.

MAYBE WE COULD LIKE SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD COULD NOMINATE PUT US IN FOR THE PIG ROOM, BUT IT WASN'T BUILT YET.

ANOTHER THING IS I WAS THINKING AND LIKE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT AMBER COULD DO? BECAUSE IF SHE DOES A, A NOMINATION, THAT'S REALLY HELPING WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY.

THEN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AVAILABLE SOON, GUYS, THERE'S LOTS OF IDEAS.

13TH 2023, THEY HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED NOMINATIONS FOR P R PS AWARDS, WHICH WE HAVE OUR CONFERENCE IN MARCH AND I CAN SEND YOU THIS LINK.

IT HAS ALL THE CRITERIA AND AWARDS.

YOU CAN GET ALL OF IT.

AWESOME.

IF I CAN SEND THAT OUT TO YOU.

BUT I MEAN, I THINK IT'D BE INTERESTED TO, INTERESTING TO LOOK AT IT AND WHETHER WE HIT THAT ONE OR NOT OR FIND OUT THAT'S OUR LOCAL ONE.

SO THAT'S THE PENNSYLVANIA RECREATION, LIKE THAT'S THE ONE LIKE I WOULD GO AGAINST JASON FORD TO, TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

, ANYBODY.

BUT I MEAN LOOK, WE JUST, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A ADA ACCESSIBLE PARK THAT WE JUST PUT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS GREAT PLAYGROUND.

I MEAN I THINK THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH SELF NOMINATING, I DON'T KNOW HOW INVOLVED IT IS.

SO WHO COULD TAKE THAT ON OR BE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO.

SO THAT WAS JUST MY HIGHLIGHTS.

IT WAS JUST NEW TO ME.

SO I, ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT, THAT'S THAT.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS WE COULD KINDA PASS IT ON TO YOU.

SO TO TALK ABOUT ANY, UH, UPDATES RECTA SO NEW, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS, UM, IN THE LAST MEETING OR REMEMBER THE ONE BEFORE THAT, UM, THE TOWNSHIP ADVISED US THAT OUR RECREATION SOFTWARE WAS LACKING.

UM, SO WE ARE MOVING TO A MORE UP TO DATE, UM, MORE VISUALLY FRIENDLY WEBSITE.

UM, IT'S THROUGH REC DESK.

WE HAVE OUR LAST TRAINING NEXT WEEK AND THEN WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GO LIVE WITH IT IN JANUARY.

SO IT'S A NEW LEARNING CURVE.

IT'S A WHOLE NEW PROCESS.

BUT THIS DOES GIVE US OPTION, UM, DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO MARKET OUR PROGRAMS BETTER AND TO ADVERTISE THEM BETTER ON THE WEBSITE.

THERE'S STILL SOME DISCUSSION ON, IT'LL BE TWO DIFFERENT WEBSITES STILL BETWEEN THE TOWNSHIP AND US.

UM, HOWEVER, RECES CAN MIMIC WHAT OUR WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE WITH THE TOWNSHIP.

SO WHEN YOU CLICK ON A LINK TO REGISTER FOR A PROGRAM FROM THE TOWNSHIP END, YOU WON'T NECESSARILY KNOW YOU'VE LEFT THE TOWNSHIP PAGE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH.

SO

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IT LOOKS MORE, IT'S GONNA BE MORE SEAMLESS, COHESIVE IF YOU WANT TO LOOK UP, UM, MONTGOMERY COUNTY USES IT AND SO DOES LIMERICK AS THE LOCALS AND THERE ARE A LOT MORE PEOPLE MOVING TOWARDS IT.

UM, BUT SO WE'LL BE SENDING OUT NOTIFICATIONS IN DECEMBER TO ALL OF OUR CURRENT USERS AND THEY WILL GET NOTIFICATIONS.

THEY ARE TO SET UP THEIR OWN ACCOUNTS THROUGH REC DESK.

SO WE'RE JUST WORKING OUT SOME OF THE FINE, UM, ADJUSTMENTS ON THE WEBSITE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SO THERE'S NO TRANSFER.

THEY HAVE TO, I'M NOT TRANSFERRING, THERE'S TOO MANY ACCOUNTS WE HAVE DUPLICATES ON.

YEAH.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER MY REC, WELL, UM, UNFORTUNATELY IF YOU UPPERCASE ONE LETTER OF YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE SIGNS YOU UP FOR AN ACCOUNT AND THEY LOWER CASE YOUR ADDRESS, THEY NO LONGER SINK.

SO WE HAVE PROBABLY MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE COPIED ACCOUNTS OR DUPLICATE ACCOUNTS THAT WILL HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD.

SO I'M GONNA HAVE EVERYONE, HOW ARE THEY GONNA ALLEVIATE THAT IN THE NEW ? THEIR SYSTEM MORE SENSITIVE.

OKAY.

SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO CATCH THAT.

AND THIS WAY I'M NOT TRANSFERRING OLD ACCOUNTS FROM ONE SOFTWARE TO THE NEXT.

OKAY.

EVERYONE WILL HAVE TO GO IN AND SET UP A NEW USERNAME AND PASSWORD WITH THE NEW WEBSITE.

OKAY.

CREDITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRANSFER THOSE OVER, BUT IT SHOULD BE A MUCH EASIER SITE TO NAVIGATE AND REGISTER FOR.

SO THAT'S RECES.

THE OTHER NEWEST PIECE OF INFORMATION IS WE ARE 90% DONE WITH OUR 2023, UM, EVENT AND BIG PROGRAM PLAN.

SO WE HAVE ALL THOSE DATES IN MIND.

THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT I STILL HAVE TO NAIL DOWN.

ONE OF THEM I HAVE TO NAIL DOWN WITH YOU GUYS TODAY.

UM, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING, UM, OUT AND ON OUR WEBSITE AND MARKETED IN DECEMBER.

SO EVERYTHING FOR 2023 WILL BE UP AND LIVE.

WE HAVE, UM, OUR PARKING REC CONSORTIUM MEETING NEXT WEEK.

UM, AND THAT IS ALL THE LOCAL TOWNSHIPS, BOROUGHS, THE Y M C A SPRING VALLEY'S COMING.

WE'RE ALL GETTING TOGETHER NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT PARKING REC ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, CALENDARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, LIMERICK AND I ARE OFFERING THE SAME EXACT PROGRAM OR EVENT ON THE SAME DAY.

AND THE SAME THING WITH WARRIORS AND THE SAME THING WITH PHOENIXVILLE.

LIKE WE'RE ALL TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER, NOT OFFERING THE SAME CAMPS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS SO THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE SEAMLESS.

SO IF PHOENIXVILLE CAN OFFER SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE THE SPACE OR AVAILABILITY FOR, I'M GONNA HELP THEM MARKET THEIRS AND I'LL OFFER SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN'T.

SO IT'S MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP IN OUR CONSORTIUM VERSUS OH, THEY GOT MORE PEOPLE THAN I DID IN THE SAME PROGRAM.

LIKE, WHY ARE WE COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER PROPERTY? YES.

ALSO COORDINATING DATES.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ALL HAVE THEIR PLANS READY, BUT I'LL HAVE MINE FINALIZED BY THE KEY.

OKAY.

ELI.

THAT, THAT'S OUR BIG STUFF.

IT'S NOT MY LITTLE PROGRAM THAT WE RUN OUTTA THE CENTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY ARE OUR BIGGER, WHICH LEADS ME TO ONE QUICK QUESTION.

UM, ARE WE DOING THE JAM THIS YEAR? UM, WE PUT IT IN THE, THE DATE IS ESTABLISHED.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I JUST WANTED MAKE SURE I HAVE THAT.

I I WROTE IT DOWN.

IT'S APRIL 23RD I THINK.

RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE GOT.

I THINK THAT I ONLY LOOKED IT UP BEFORE COMING CUZ I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT'S THE ACTUAL DATE AND THEN THE RAIN DATES OF THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND.

RIGHT.

THAT'S THE WAY WE, WE PLANNED IT.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE BECAUSE AS WE'RE STARTING TO PLACE THINGS, I WANNA MAKE SURE I THINK THAT'S ON IS APRIL 21ST? IT IS.

I'M CONFUSED.

YEAH, I HAVE THE 30TH AS OF DATE.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SO THAT THAT'S A PLAN.

BUT I GUESS IT WOULD BE GOOD TO CONFIRM THAT EVERY, EVERYBODY'S INTERESTED.

I MEAN, I THINK THEY ARE WE KIND OF OKAY.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

IT WAS SO MUCH FUN LAST YEAR.

I KNOW.

YEAH.

AND IT WAS A REALLY NICE EVENT.

IT WAS A REALLY NICE EVENT.

OKAY.

BUT, UM, ONCE I GET THE STRAP PLAN AND WE'RE READY TO ADVERTISE, YOU GUYS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO LAND ON THE GOOGLE DOC.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.

OKAY.

ALL

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RIGHT.

SO THEN JUST GOING INTO OLD BUSINESS, WE JUST, UM, WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT THE VOLUNTEERS FOR THE WOOD WONDERLAND AND I THINK YOU, YOU SAID THAT I, I REMEMBER WE LIKED THE FACT THAT IT WAS A SEPARATE SPREADSHEET CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT DATES AND TIMES AND STUFF IN ORDER TO SIGN UP.

SO, SO I PUT IN, I UPDATED IT, UM, I THINK THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS MORNING IF YOU GO INTO OUR 2022 CALENDAR, THE VOLUNTEER SCHEDULE.

OKAY.

I DID ADD A LITTLE SUBCATEGORY FOR WILLOW WONDERLAND SPECIFICALLY.

UM, THE YELLOW PORTION IS VOLUNTEER NIGHTS AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS COVERED BY STAFF.

UM, AND I ALSO PUT IN THERE, JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THAT NIGHT, WHATEVER ACTIVITY WE HAVE.

SO WE HAVE VOLUNTEER NIGHTS ON THE FRIDAYS AND THE FRIDAYS ARE GONNA BE OUR EMERGENCY RESPONDER NIGHTS.

SO WE HAVE POLICE ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER 2ND.

WE ARE WORKING ON EITHER EMS ON THE NINTH OR PUBLIC WORKS ON THE NINTH.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UM, DECEMBER 16TH THAT FRIDAY WILL BE FIRE.

SO AND A AND WITH THAT WE HAVE THE BASIC LIKE HOT CHOCOLATE.

WE HAVE CANDY CANES, WE HAVE LETTERS FOR SANTA, WE HAVE THE LIGHT SHOW.

I'M HOPING TO GET MUSIC READY FOR IT.

UM, WE HAVE A HEATED SHED THIS YEAR.

UM, THE TENT DIDN'T GO OVER WELL WITH EVERYBODY AND IT WAS A LITTLE MORE PRICEY THAN, UM, I WAS WILLING TO SPEND ON IT.

BUT WE DID MOVE THE SNACK BAR THAT WAS IN FRONT OF PUBLIC WORKS.

WE MOVED THAT OVER ON MONDAY.

I DIDN'T YOU GOT A GUY EVERYTHING TODAY.

UM, BUT WE MOVED THE SNACK BAR THAT WAS LOCATED RIGHT IN FRONT OF PUBLIC WORKS OVER HERE.

RIGHT, OKAY.

I MOVED THAT OVER TO ANDERSON.

SO IT'S IN THE PARKING LOT AND THAT HAS ELECTRICAL HEAT IT, SO IT'S LIKE WARM FOR PEOPLE THIS YEAR.

UM, I KNOW JUST STANDING OUT IN THE COLD WAS A LITTLE TERRIBLE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, SO I DID REMEDY AT LEAST THAT SITUATION THIS YEAR FOR STAFF.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT GOING ON FOR, UM, THE LIGHT SHOW THIS YEAR.

WE DID ADD ALMOST $2,000 WORTH OF DECORATIONS TO THIS YEAR.

UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THOSE ALL LIT.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WORKING ON MUSIC BUT THEN EVERY NIGHT WE HAVE, UM, DIFFERENT CRAFTS THAT THE KIDS CAN DO FOR FREE.

UM, SATURDAYS ARE OUR CHARACTER NIGHTS, SO WE HIRED PEOPLE TO COME IN AS CHARACTERS.

WE HAVE BINGO AND BLUEY COMING.

WE HAVE SONIC AND MARIO, WE HAVE MINI AND MICKEY MOUSE.

AND THEN ON THE LAST SATURDAY IT'S THE GRINCH AND SANTA CLAUS.

SO, AND THEN ALSO ON THE LAST SATURDAY NIGHT, UM, THE POTLUCK FOOD TRUCK CALLED ME LOOKING FOR SOME MARKETING OPPORTUNITIES AND HE ASKED IF HE COULD DO THAT.

SO I'M LETTING HIM COME TO THAT.

AND THEN ON THURSDAYS THAT'S WHEN MY TEAM WILL BE THERE AND WE ARE DOING DIY GIFT NIGHTS SO YOU CAN SIGN UP WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR YOUR SLOT FOR WHAT THE WONDERLAND, YOU CAN ALSO SIGN UP FOR A DIY GIFT AND SOMETHING CUTE.

THE KIDS CAN COME IN AND DO IT LIKE SNOW GLOBES AND COFFEE MUGS AND PICTURE FRAMES AND THE KIDS CAN MAKE THAT AND THEN GIVE IT TO LIKE THEIR GRANDPARENTS OR THEIR PARENTS OR SIBLING.

SO EVERY NIGHT SOMETHING COOL, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME KIND OF FUN ATMOSPHERE WITH THE HOT CHOCOLATE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

EVERY, SO DID YOU SAY IT'S ONLY FRIDAY NIGHTS? LIKE THE VOLUNTEER NIGHTS? IF THAT'S THE ONE THAT I NEED TO, THAT'S THE ONLY NIGHT RIGHT NOW THAT I NEED TO SECURE PEOPLE FOR.

BUT IF THERE'S OTHER NIGHTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND HELP OUT, YOU CAN JUST, NO, LET, YEAH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD.

SO YOU'RE, YOU FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT STAFF WISE THAT YOU CAN HANDLE THE OTHER NIGHT? YEAH, I MEAN THE CHARACTER NIGHTS ARE ALWAYS THE BUSIEST NIGHTS.

THAT'S WHEN WE GET THE MOST PEOPLE OUT.

THAT'S WHEN WE GET THE MOST DONATIONS.

THAT'S WHEN WE GET, YOU KNOW, UM, A LOT MORE PEOPLE COMING OUT TO DO CRAFT.

SO THE MORE HANDS, THE EASIER THE WORK IS THAT NIGHT.

SO IF THERE ARE SEPARATE NIGHTS OR EVEN IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT WITH PARK AND REC ON THURSDAYS, LIKE WHATEVER YOU CAN DO IS GREAT.

BUT FRIDAYS ARE DEFINITELY DAYS THAT, UM, I NEED HELP WITH.

DID YOU HAPPEN TO READ, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW WE GET THE UPPER PROVIDENCE? LIKE I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MAGAZINE.

UPPER PROVIDENCE LIVING IN UPPER PROVIDENCE.

YES.

THAT'S IT.

SO JOHN MER WAS ON THE COVER LAST NIGHT? YEAH, HE'S OUR SWAG MAN.

AND WELL IN THIS, I I READ ABOUT, I THINK HER NAME IS KIM WRIGHT, SHE'S THE OWNER OF, UM, THE BUNK PAPER.

EVERYTHING.

AND LIKE, LIKE IT SAID IT SEVERAL TIMES HOW SHE'S ALL ABOUT COMMUNITY.

SHE LIKES TO CONTRIBUTE AND DONATE AND ALL.

SO I'M THINKING WE SHOULD GO CAR, WE SHOULD GO VISIT HER AND FIND OUT.

WE DID VISIT HER FOREX BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT OKAY.

BUT THAT'S A PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MAY POP IN THERE.

YOU SHOULD.

AND JUST FIND

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OUT WHEN SHE'S IN THERE AND SEE IF I CAN HAVE A ABSOLUTELY.

LET HER KNOW, LIKE I THINK THIS WOULD BE A PERFECT CAN COME HAND OUT CAKES.

SHE CANS.

ABSOLUTELY.

SHE DID THAT WHEN THEY FIRST OPENED.

THEY DID OUR PRINCESS LUNCH WITH A PRINCESS DAY AND WE HAD ELS AND ANNA COME TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

UNO DONATED ALL THE FOOD FOR IT AND SHE DONATED ALL THE LITTLE MINI BOAT CAKES THAT THE KIDS GOT TO EAT FOR.

IT WAS VERY NICE, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM HER SINCE.

AND THAT WAS BE 19, EARLY 19.

OKAY.

WELL SINCE IT WAS IN THE ARTICLE, I'M GOING INTRODUCE HERSELF AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT I DO.

YEAH.

I'M, SHE WAS WONDERFUL WHEN I, I JUST, YEAH.

THAT'S A GREAT, THANK YOU FOR SEEING THAT.

YEAH, NO WORRIES.

THAT'S .

UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT TO, DID YOU WANNA, UM, OKAY, SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOWE'S BEFORE THE, UM, MEETING JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD CONTACT WITH THE MANAGER OVER THERE.

I WILL REACH OUT TO HIM WITH BILL AND WE CAN START MEETING ABOUT, UM, DISCOUNTS AND OFFERINGS THAT THEY CAN GIVE US EVERY YEAR BETWEEN TREES AND BENCHES AND OTHER THINGS.

SO ARE WE, ARE WE KIND OF THINKING THAT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE BE MOVING FORWARD WITH GETTING THIS? YES.

THE, THE TREE SERVICE, I DID BRING IT UP DURING MY BUDGET MEETING LAST WEEK AND THE BOARD WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THEY DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONLY OPTION WAS TO BUY THE TREE OUTRIGHT AS A MEMORIAL.

UM, AND THEY AGREED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE ONE OF THOSE, IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FAIR THAT YOU HAVE TO PASS IN ORDER TO GET A TREE, YOU KNOW, SO THEY REALLY LIKED THAT PLAN AND THEY REALLY LIKED THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD PUT THE TREES ANYWHERE.

IT WASN'T JUST LIKE, IT'S JUST GOING IN THIS ONE SPOT.

WE CAN PUT THEM IN SPORADICALLY, WE CAN BUY THEM IN BULK AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR, LIKE WE PAY FOR WHAT WE CAN.

UM, SO THEY REALLY LIKED IT.

THE BOARD WAS ASKING WHEN WE WERE GOING TO INITIALIZE IT.

SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY HANDLE.

IT'S JUST ANOTHER ADDITIONAL THING WE PUT ON OUR WEBSITE.

WE MARK IT.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S NOTHING OUTSIDE OF OUR LIMITS AT THIS POINT.

OKAY.

IT, WHY IS THAT DONATED? HUNTER TREES.

.

.

IT'S PRICE FOUR BUCKS AND THEY'RE VERY, HE SAID IT WAS NICE DISCOUNT.

HE'D BE GLAD TO THE MEMORIAL, BUT OBVIOUSLY CAN'T.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT HE SAID HE'LL HELP US OUT WITH THAT'S AWESOME.

AND THEN WE, WE PROBABLY WANNA START THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BRING THAT UP AGAIN AND LIKE OUR JANUARY MEETING, BECAUSE FEBRUARY, MARCH WE'RE GONNA WANNA COME GET THAT ROLLING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

WE'RE GONNA WANNA PULL OUT LIKE A HUGE MARKETING PLOY JANUARY, FEBRUARY TO HAVE THE TREES READY BY MARCH.

SO MAYBE WHEN WE'RE, YOU'RE, WE LOOK AT YOUR STRAP PLAN, IF THERE'S EVENTS HAPPENING IN THAT TIMEFRAME, MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT ADVERTISED THAT EACH PLACE, MAYBE EVEN FLYERS OR SOMETHING.

ANOTHER GOOD OPTION WOULD BE WE HAVE EARTH DAY.

THAT'S A GREAT, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO FOR THE LAST FEW EARTH DAY WAS TO EITHER HAVE PRE THERE THAT WE COULD BUY OR WE ALREADY PURCHASED THEM.

AND WITH DONATION, LIKE YOU CAN GET A TREE.

LIKE I THINK AER DOES THAT IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU CAN SHOW RESIDENCY.

IT'S A LITTLE TWIST.

IT'S SETTLING.

YEAH.

BUT YOU GET A FREE TREE.

YEAH.

WHEN YOU COME.

SO IF LIKE WE CAN GET THOSE KIND OF THINGS OFF THE GROUND, THAT'S PROBABLY MORE OF AN EAC THING.

WE COULD, WE COULD POINT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

IF WE CAN GET SOME PARTNERSHIPS AND MAYBE THEY'RE THERE TO, YOU KNOW, ADVERTISE THE BUSINESS.

I ACTUALLY GOT ONE WHEN SOME IN POTTSTOWN WITH SOMETHING I WENT TO AND THEY GAVE ME A LITTLE TREE AND IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL GROWING.

I STILL HAVE, MY DAUGHTER GOT ONE FROM SCHOOL AND IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE PINE TREE.

IT'S ALREADY LIKE THIS BIG.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

GOOD.

SO THAT'LL BE IT.

THAT WILL BE A GOOD UM, SO I GUESS UNDER PARK AND REC, UM, FALL FEST, HUGE SUCCESS.

IF YOU CAME AS PART OF THE PUBLIC, YOU WERE ONE OF 5,000 PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP.

THAT'S WHAT WE TALLIED BY THE END OF THE DAY.

WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE GIVEAWAYS IN AN HOUR AND A HALF, HALF.

I KNOW.

WHICH WAS CHALLENG.

IT WAS A CHALLENGING DAY IF YOU WERE INTERNAL.

I'M NOT GONNA LIE.

YEAH, IT WAS A BUSY DAY.

WE WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT.

UM, I DIDN'T HAVE STAFF.

LIKE IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE PLANNED ACCORDINGLY FOR 2,500 PEOPLE, MAYBE 2000 PEOPLE.

CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE GET.

5,000 IS A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN WE WERE ANTICIPATING.

IT'S THE FIRST YEAR, IT WAS YEAR.

NO, LAST YEAR WAS HERE.

BUT IT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

IT WAS SMALLER.

IT WAS MUCH THE WEATHER REALLY.

WE LUCKED OUT ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND I THINK WHAT HAPPENED TOO, AND I THINK THIS IS

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GONNA HELP US IN THE FUTURE, IS THAT WE LUCKED OUT WITH THE DATE.

SO EVERYONE THE WEEK BEFORE ALL HAD WASHOUTS DUE TO THAT TROPICAL STORM THAT CAME THROUGH.

SO THEY ALL GOT WASHED OUT.

SO PEOPLE LOST A WHOLE WEEKEND OF FALL FESTING, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.

AND WE HAD OURS AND IT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY AND IT WAS FIVE HOURS AND PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO HERE SAID THAT THEY WERE HERE FOR FOUR HOURS.

THERE WAS SO MUCH TO DO AND SO MUCH EXCITEMENT.

LIKE THEY WERE HERE FOR ALMOST THE ENTIRE DURATION, WHICH NEVER HAPPENS.

LIKE USUALLY THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WE WERE HERE FOR AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF.

LIKE WE WERE GOOD.

SO YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF SO, AND YOU CAN GET WATER .

MY HUSBAND CAME BY AND CAREFUL.

YEAH.

I NEED WATER.

HE COULDN'T ANYBODY.

THAT WAS A BIG ONE.

I HEARD THAT, THAT MONDAY.

WHAT KIND OF INPUT, LIKE DID YOU GET, DID A LOT OF PEOPLE FILL OUT THE QUESTIONNAIRE? NO.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THE DEBRIEFING THAT I HAVE WERE WITH UM, THE FALL FEST COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE INTERNALLY.

UM, BASICALLY OUR INPUT WAS PARKING WAS A DISASTER ON OUR END.

UM, IT STARTED OFF REALLY, REALLY WELL AND ALL THE INTENTIONS WERE BEST LAID OUT.

PUBLIC WORKS WAS OUT THERE ON FRIDAY, LITERALLY CAUTION TAPING EVERY SINGLE THING OFF SO THAT IT WOULD BE AN EASY BREEZY PARKING SITUATION.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE GROUND JUST DIDN'T DRY AS WELL AS WE HAD HOPED.

SO SOMEONE DID GET STUCK AND DUE TO THAT PERSON GETTING STUCK, WE THEN SHUT DOWN THAT ENTIRE PARKING AREA, WHICH ON OUR COMMUNICATION END WASN'T BROADCASTED ENOUGH.

SO, NO, NOT EVERYBODY KNEW THE SITUATION OR WHY THERE WAS NOW LIKE THIS HUGE BACKUP DOWN BLACKROCK ROAD ONTO ONE 13 AND 29.

SO A COUPLE THINGS ON THE INTERNAL SIDE WAS WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMMAND POST THIS YEAR.

WE KIND OF, UM, BECAUSE WE ALL HAD WALKIES OR AT LEAST A LEAD FOR EVERY PART HAD A WALKIE, UM, WE KIND OF ASSUMED THAT WE HAD THE TOWNSHIP BUILDING THIS ROOM.

IF ANYTHING WERE TO HAPPEN, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE ALL GONNA GO TO.

UM, BUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS A BETTER COMMAND POST DAY OF WE HAD A LOT OF LOST KIDS.

WE HAD A LOT OF LOST PARENTS AS WELL.

UM, WHAT'S THAT FEAST? WE HAD STAFF GET FEASTING THAT WERE ALLERGIC AND DIDN'T HAVE EPIPENS.

UM, IT WAS, IT WAS A LOT.

I DON'T REMEMBER MOST OF THE DAY CUZ I THINK I JUST SPRINTED THE ENTIRE DAY.

I NEVER EVEN GOT IN UNIFORM.

THE, THE ENTIRE DAY OF MY FEET WERE BLACK AND BLUE FOR LIKE FOUR DAYS.

JUST THINK THAT TABLE WERE WHERE I WAS.

GIVEAWAYS BE LIKE THE HEADQUARTERS, IT WAS THE HUB THAT WASN'T INTENDED THAT WE YEAH.

AND UM, LIKE WE DIDN'T WELL WHERE'S THE SOMETHING OR OTHER? OH THAT WAS, WHERE'S THE ? I DUNNO.

.

MY, THEY'RE THE GIANT INFLATABLES.

I KNOW RIGHT BEHIND YOU CAN'T MISS 'EM.

BUT EVEN BETTER PREPARED.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

WHICH, YES, WHAT I DID FILL OUT THE QUESTIONNAIRE AND UM, AND SO COULD END IT, BUT LIKE THE, THE THINGS THAT I PUT ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE AND THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TO ME AND WE TOUCHED ON 'EM, BUT DEFINITELY NEEDED A WATER TABLE.

THAT, THAT WAS BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WERE JUST LOOKING FOR WATER.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS, AND THEN AFTER GOING TO THE P R P PS THING TOO IS MAYBE HAVE A VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR MM-HMM.

AND, AND MEET WITH THE VOLUNTEERS BEFOREHAND.

AND THEN, CUZ I KNOW YOU, YOU WERE OUT FOR SO LONG.

YEAH.

AND LIKE WE REALLY HAVE TO TREAT OUR VOLUNTEER AS WELL.

AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING FOR US BUT OTHER PEOPLE TOO SO THAT WE, WE HAVE A GOOD POOL.

THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE.

I MEAN JUST WHO WAS, SOMEBODY WAS WITH ME AT THAT TABLE.

NOT YET.

SHE GOT PULLED OR SOMETHING AND I WAS AT THE NOW AND I WAS LIKE, I'M THERE BY MYSELF UNDER HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.

I COULDN'T GET THE STUFF OUTTA THE BOXES ON THE PAGE THAT I, I THINK IF WE HAD, YOU WERE ALSO VERY GREEDY FROM UNDER, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AFTER THE EVENT THAT THOSE, THOSE BAGS WERE REALLY GOOD QUALITY BAGS.

AND LUCKILY I HAD A BUNCH SILLY THINGS CUZ I KNEW YOU PUT THOSE OUT, THEY'RE GONNA GO WITH HOCKEY.

SO IT IS LIKE ME MAKING SURE WHOEVER MY COORDINATOR IS FOR THAT EXACT ROLE.

YEAH.

I HAD ONE.

LIKE I JUST HIT STUFF JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET RID OF THEM IN 10 MINUTES.

YOU DID THE RIGHT THING.

AND LIKE THE WHOLE THING WITH THAT AND I FAILED TO DO THIS

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ON MY END.

UM, YOU HAVE ALL THE BEST INTENTIONS.

THEY ARE AND IT NEVER WORKS THAT WAY.

YEAH.

BUT THE INTENT WAS THEY HAD TO FILL OUT A SURVEY TO GET THE BAG.

DID I TELL THAT TO YOU? NO.

SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, YEAH, OF COURSE ALL THE BAGS ARE GONNA BE GONE.

THAT, THAT'S WHY I THINK IF, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT REALLY NICE ONES.

IT WAS LIKE, IF YOU WANNA TAKE THE TIME AND HELP US OUT, THEN HERE'S EXPENSIVE.

YEAH.

THEY WERE NOT CHEAP.

I THINK IF WE, IF WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR, IT CAN TAKE A LOT OF THAT OFF OF YOU.

MM-HMM.

LIKE YOU WOULD OF COURSE BE INVOLVED WITH THE BEGINNING OF GETTING THEM TOGETHER.

BUT LIKE I THINK IT'S GOOD TO LOOK AT WHAT THE DIFFERENT SKILL SET, WHAT THE ABILITY ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN I LIKE NO, NO FAULT OF ANYBODY BUT I'M DECORATING WITH TWO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T WALK.

YEAH.

THAT HAPPENED DAY UP.

THAT WAS, I MEAN I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS.

UM, SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SIGN THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

SIGNAGE, SOMETHING BIG.

THE UPPER PROBLEM IS FAR RECREATION.

YEP.

BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE THERE FOR.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY HAD APPLY THINGS OR THEY GIVING AWAY AND SOMETHING THEY HAD TO SAY FILL OUT THIS FORM FOR FREE.

LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

WELL IT WAS EVEN LIKE THE MAPS THAT WERE A HUGE PROBLEM.

THE LEGENDS JUST, JUST HOW PEOPLE WHERE THINGS WERE WHEN THEY WERE WALKING AROUND.

THEY WERE ALL IN HERE AND IT WAS LIKE DISASTER STRUCK 10 MINUTES INTO US GETTING EVERYTHING READY AND NOTHING WENT FURTHER.

THAT, AND THAT'S PART OF LIKE MY MANAGEMENT OF THE DAY.

RIGHT.

MAYBE AT, MAYBE AT THE TABLE YOU HAD A PR CODE.

YEAH, WE HAD ALL OF IT.

IT WAS ALL JUST IN HERE.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IF IT'S EVERYTHING WAS DONE FOR VOLUNTEERS AND LIKE BEFOREHAND BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN BE EXPECTED DAY OF TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THAT.

IT'S ALSO GETTING PEOPLE, VOLUNTEERS AND THEN TO COME IN TO SHOW UP, TO SHOW UP BEFOREHAND TO GET DEBRIEFED.

RIGHT.

BUT I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY, BUT THEN MAYBE WHERE THEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING TO, TO GET A BETTER CORE OF VOLUNTEERS THAT WE NOW ARE GONNA SHOW UP.

AND, AND TO THAT END, I MY OPINION TOO IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS MAKE SURE THE COORDINATOR IS GOING AROUND AND ALLEVIATING PEOPLE SO THEY CAN HAVE A BATHROOM DAY, HAVE SOMETHING STAFF AT LEAST.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S BAD THAT MM-HMM.

AND, AND FOR LIKE ALL THOSE, THOSE THREE BATS.

I MEAN IF YOU HAVE 20 VOLUNTEERS, THEY SHOULD GET A BAG, LIKE SILLY PIN HOP IN IT, LIKE THANKING THEM WITH THEIR LETTER ALREADY IN THERE MM-HMM.

FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION FOR A BIG EVENT LIKE THAT.

MM-HMM .

AND THEN I THINK WE CAN KIND OF REGENERATE.

PEOPLE GONNA WANT DO STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK THERE'S VOLUNTEERS.

I THINK WE NEED TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS EVENT, I DUNNO, SEND A NOTE OUT TO XYZ ORGANIZATION.

LIKE WHAT'S YOUR COMMITMENT AND WHAT'S THE PENALTY FOR THEM IF THEY LIKE I'M GONNA GIVE YOU 25 PEOPLE.

SO, AND THEN I THEN YOU DON'T HEAR I GHOST YOU AND THEN THE DAY OFF.

I MEAN IT HAD TO BE ALERT THAT, I MEAN BECAUSE YEAH.

BUT IF THAT'S KIND OF MY, NOT THAT IT'S AN ISSUE, BUT THAT'S, I LECTURE THIS WEEK BAIL OUT ON ME.

OH YEAH.

BEFOREHAND.

I MEAN IT WAS JUST, THERE'S TIMES WHEN THESE KIND OF BIG EVENTS THAT I ALMOST RATHER MAKE IT MANDATORY FOR STAFF TO BE HERE.

CAUSE STAFF HAS MORE IN INVESTMENT IN IT THAN VOLUNTEERS.

IT'S NO OFFENSE.

YOU ALL DID AMAZING AND I WORSHIPED YOU ALL DAY FOR BEING THERE AND HELPING ME OUT.

BUT IT'S, I HAD, I WAS TOLD THAT I HAD SO MANY PEOPLE FROM A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION COMING AND I HAD MAYBE A HANDFUL OF THAT GIANT CHUNK OF PEOPLE COME AND THEN THEY GOT THERE WHENEVER THEY WANTED.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I WASN'T IN CHARGE OF THEM UP UNTIL THEY SHOWED UP THAT DAY.

SO IT'S LIKE THAT CONFUSION OF LIKE, GREAT, YOU CAN GIVE ME 30 PEOPLE.

WHERE ARE THEY? WHERE ARE THEY? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I SENT YOU WHEN I NEED PEOPLE HERE, THEY'RE NOT HERE NOW THEY'RE TAKING UP VENDOR PARKING.

AND NOW I HAVE VENDORS ALL UPSET BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE WRONG PARKING SPACE.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT I LEARNED A LOT FROM THIS GIANT EVENT THAT THINGS NEED TO GO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THE WEEK OF.

CAUSE WE'RE SO INTERNAL WITH THIS EVENT THAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU WEREN'T IN ALL THE PLANNING MEETINGS, YOU KIND OF LOSE SIGHT.

YEAH, YOU DO.

OF HOW THAT, I THINK, AND I THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT.

OF COURSE YOU CAN'T, LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA KNOW FOR SURE, BUT IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AT A PREVIOUS MEETING AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE SIGNING UP, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, SO YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING THIS.

THEN THEY HAVE SOME BUY-IN AND THEN IF THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENT HAPPEN, LIKE IF THERE'S A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL TO SAY, LISTEN, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE THERE.

AND THEN YOU COULD SAY, OKAY, THIS PERSON WAS DOING THIS, I'M GONNA MOVE THIS AROUND.

SO A SPREADSHEET COORDINATING IT JUST WOULD BE, DO THESE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS HAVE TO, DO YOU HAVE TO DO VOLUNTEER WORK? IS THAT A CRITERIA? NO.

PEOPLE WERE SAYING THEY HAVE THESE HOURS AND STUFF.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S DOING.

WELL THERE'S A CERTAIN GROUP THAT LIKE THE HONOR SOCIETY DOES.

YEAH.

AND THEN LIKE

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INTERACT CLUB, THAT'S BASICALLY JUST TO VOLUNTEER.

SO SO DO WE, ARE THEY VOLUNTEERING THIS, INTERACT, DOING ANY OF OUR EVENTS HERE? HAVE YOU SEEN UM, I THINK AND I THINK WASN'T UM, JULIANA GONNA LOOK INTO THAT? YEAH.

I GAVE TO THE INSTAGRAM HANDLE OF THE ACTUAL LIKE INTERACTION CLUB.

OKAY.

SO THEY, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK SO I THINK SHE SAID THAT SHE REACHED OUT, BUT WHO CAN ASK HER WHEN SHE GETS BACK? YEAH.

WHO'S THE FACULTY ADVISOR ON IT? I HAVE NO IDEA.

I FOUND THAT OUT.

I COULD REACH OUT TO THE, AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU HAVE KIDS THAT WANT TO HELP, WE'RE RIGHT HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN TO PHILADELPHIA.

YOU CAN COME, YOU CAN BE DROPPED OFF OR WHATEVER.

AND I GUESS THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT I I, I REMEMBER WHEN MY SON WAS DOING HIS COLLEGE APPLICATIONS, LIKE THEY DID ASK LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER HE, HE LITERALLY HAD A SPREADSHEET OF ALL THE STUFF HE DID AND YOU KNOW, LIKE, I HOPE YOU'RE PUTTING IN YOUR, YOU PUT IN YOUR LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU'RE A JUNIOR MEMBER ON A BOARD.

SO IT, THAT'S WHAT I, I MEAN IT DEFINITELY HAS WEIGHT.

IT'S IT TOTALLY DOES.

SO IT SAYS YOU ACT, IT DIFFERENTIATES YOURSELF.

THE CLASSMATES WHO ARE THIS PIN IS MORE EXCITING THAN YEAH.

IT MAKES ME, I'M SAYING YEAH.

SO IF YOU CAN FIND OUT WHO THAT IS AND I WILL BE THE, ON THAT ONE, REACH OUT TO GET THIS PERSON.

I A HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT HERE INVOLVED.

THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU WANNA BE INVOLVED IN THE YEAH.

.

AND I THINK SUE WAS GONNA, AND I REACHED OUT TO SOME PEOPLE, MY WAS COMPLAINING.

I SAID, CALL ME, THERE'S MY NUMBER SHOW UP.

HE NEEDED SEVEN HOURS.

I SAID, I CAN GET YOU ALL THE HELL YOU WANT ON SATURDAY.

WHAT DO I FROM I WILL SEE TO FIND OUT.

EXCUSE ME, .

AND YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE IS GONNA BE THAT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO BUILD A CORE GROUP OF, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE YOU'RE GONNA WANNA BE REFRESHING THAT.

BUT SO DID YOU HEAR FROM JULIANA? WERE, DID YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO HER AND SEE IF SHE WAS, AND REMEMBER SHE'S ABOUT, SHE, UM, GOT THE JOB.

SO NO, I RESPONDED BACK TO YOU.

I DIDN'T, I HAVE NOT RESENT TO HER YET.

OKAY.

I MEAN, LIKE, IF YOU EVER LIKE YOU SENT THE EMAIL TO MARIA, LIKE WE'RE, I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT.

LIKE IF YOU EVER, I JUST DON'T WANT, IF YOU HAD ALREADY, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT TOO.

SO TO JULIANA.

YEAH.

NO, I HAVE NOT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.

I DIDN'T.

ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU WANT I'LL LET YOU DO IT.

I'LL DO IT.

AND I ONLY SAID THAT BECAUSE I I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO, UM, YEAH.

SO I'LL REACH OUT TO JULIANA AND JUST LET HER KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, SORRY, LOVE TO HAVE HER STILL COME.

IF SHE CAN WORK IT INTO HER SCHEDULE.

LIKE I THINK SHE WAS CONCERNED THAT SHE HAD ALREADY MISSED FOUR.

YEAH.

BECAUSE SHE'S A STUDENT FAULT.

IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T IMPLY ANYTHING IN NO, I APOLOGIZE.

SO I THINK, I THINK WHEN YOU, I THINK YOU FORWARDED HER EMAIL SO I MM-HMM.

I'LL, SHE'S, SHE'S, SHE'S ON OUR LIST.

I'LL SEND IT TO HER.

NO, I DON'T THINK THAT WE MADE THAT CLEAR THAT IT WASN'T.

YEAH, IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T SHE? CAUSE SHE SAID SHE WAS GONNA TRY TO GET OFF WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND I MEAN, I'LL REACH OUT TO HER.

WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I MISSED ON COMMUNITY TODAY? JUST, JUST A SIGNAGE.

LIKE WHAT HA LIKE, LIKE WHAT DO MEAN BY SIGNAGE? OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT WHAT I WOULD ENVISION WHERE I WAS SO MANY PEOPLE COMING UP AND SAYING, WELL, WHICH WAY TO THE PETTING ZOO.

WHICH WAY.

SO LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW WE CAN SEE THOSE LITTLE ARROWS SAY PETTING ZOO, PET ZOO THIS WAY, THIS WAY.

SO THAT WAS, WE HAD, UM, LARGER, THEY'RE PROBABLY THE SIZE OF THE PANEL OF MAPS WITH EVERYTHING ON IT.

YEAH.

WHERE EVERYTHING WAS LOCATED.

WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM IN HERE THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO GET BOLTED TO STAKES AND PUT OUT THE DAY OF, UM, THEY STAYED IN HERE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE EASY TO JUST HAVE A POST AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A PIECE OF BOARD, ONE BEING AN ARROW POINTING THIS WAY FOR CUTTING.

DO WE HAVE KEY POINTS LIKE FACEBOOK PAINT, FACEBOOK PAINTING.

WE HAD FACE PAINTING SIGNS, WE HAD EVENT SIGNS, WE HAD CHILDREN'S ACTIVITY SIGNS WITH ARROWS AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY, THEY WERE OUT.

WHEN THE

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SPACE IS AS BIG AS WE HAD IT THIS YEAR, IT'S REALLY HARD TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME IN TO PUT SAID SIGNS.

RIGHT.

UM, LUCKILY FOR THE FACE PAINTERS AND THE CHARACTERS THAT THEY BROUGHT, THEY WERE SMACK D RIGHT WHEN PEOPLE WALKED IN.

AND SO IT WAS A PETTING ZOO.

SO IT WAS FUNNY IF YOU WALKED IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BUILDING, YOU SAW THE PETTING ZOO RIGHT AWAY WITH THE REALLY PRETTY PETTING ZOO SIDE THAT SAID THIS WAY, IF YOU CAME IN A BLACK ROCK ROAD, YOU HAD NO IDEA.

AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE, LIKE WE HAD SPECIFIED IN OUR MAPS OF THE LOCATIONS FOR ALL THE MAPS TO GO TO SO THAT PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE AT YOUR DATE AT THE TOWNSHIP TABLE SO PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT IT.

THE HUGE MAP WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE TABLE.

SO IT'S LIKE ALL THOSE THINGS, ALL THE INTENTIONS I CAN PROMISE YOU WERE THERE.

THEY, BUT IT, IT EXECUTED THE DAY OF.

YEAH.

IT WAS A NORMAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.

WE HAD THE REGULAR, SEEMED LIKE EVERYONE CAME, BUT THAT'S GREAT AND WE WANNA BE BUILDING IT.

SO THIS WAS A GREAT, LIKE, I THINK HOW YOU OPENED IT UP PUBLIC THOUGHT IT WAS WONDERFUL.

YES.

LIKE I SAID, THEY DIDN'T DO, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ANY OF THEM.

IT DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF, FROM AN INTERNAL PERSPECTIVE.

AND I THINK THAT'S YOU WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT WE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT SOME OF THINGS WERE THERE.

THE MAPS THAT I SAW WERE, COULDN'T LIVE WHAT THEY SAID.

SO I DIDN'T, I KNOW WE HAVE TO TASTE PAINTING, YOU KNOW, LET ALONE WHERE IT IS.

AND YOU KNOW, JUST A LIST OF THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS WHO WON THE HALLOWEEN CONTEST BECAUSE I HAD SOME GRANDMOTHER DRIVE ME FOR 40 MINUTES ABOUT THE CONTEST.

I JUST HOPE OUR GRANDCHILDREN WON THE, THIS THE THING TO LIVE COAST.

UM, SO THE, THE, THE COSTUME CONTEST, UM, ORIGINALLY IN OUR HEADS WE HAD MEDALS.

I HAD LIKE 75 OF THEM THAT WERE GIVEN OUT AT THE TABLE THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO NOT BE PUT OUT YET.

SO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE, WE'RE GONNA PICK LIKE 10 OR SO KIDS PER HOUR AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS LITTLE PARADE OF KIDS THAT MEET.

WE WERE KIND OF ANTICIPATING PEOPLE ONLY BEING HERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

SO LIKE, WE'LL DO IT EVERY HOUR.

AND THEN THE MOM THERE, I GOT, I INTERACTED WITH SOME VERY UNPLEASANT, UNHAPPY PEOPLE ABOUT THE HOLIDAY, ABOUT THE, UM, COSTUME CONTEST.

AND THEN IT WAS PANIC.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE METALS WE BOUGHT.

I CAN'T FIND THEM.

SO LUCKILY WE STILL HAD I THINK EIGHT IN THE BASEMENT THAT WE QUICKLY FOUND, PUT THE THINGS ON, PUT THE LANYARDS ON, AND RAN OUTSIDE.

I SERIOUSLY SPRINTED FROM THIS BUILDING TO OUTSIDE WITH HAN LIKE DJ HERE.

AND THEN HE'S LIKE, I'M NOT DOING THAT .

I WAS LIKE, DUDE, NO, THIS IS LIKE WHY YOU'RE HERE.

LIKE I CAN'T DO THIS.

LIKE, I HAVE THE WALKIES GOING OFF LIKE CRAZY.

SO EVENTUALLY MY STAFF FROM THE CENTER ENDED UP DOING THE CONTEST FOR ME.

BUT IT WAS ONE OF THOSE LIKE, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH FOR YEAH, IT, IT WAS A LOT.

IT WAS ON TELEVISION.

I MEAN SERIOUS.

IT WAS INSANE.

AND THAT WAS THE OTHER THING, LIKE WE GOT, WE PUT IT OUT ON FACEBOOK.

UM, AMBER WAS THERE THE WHOLE DAY.

THE POOR THING WALKING AROUND OUT TO HERE, LIKE GETTING ALL THE PICTURES, PUTTING EVERYTHING ON FACEBOOK.

THE PARKING WAS IMMEDIATELY PUT UP ON FACEBOOK, BUT WE WERE OUT OF PUMPKINS WAS IMMEDIATELY PUT UP ON FACEBOOK JUST SO PEOPLE KNEW.

UM, AND WE GOT LIKE, WE DIDN'T GET ANY NEGATIVITY.

USUALLY NO MATTER WHAT I PUT ON FACEBOOK, I GET SOMETHING BACK THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO I WAS HAPPY IN THAT PEOPLE APPRECIATED IT.

VERY TIRING.

WELL, EXECUTION, I THINK WE, I THINK WE, WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOW TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER.

YEAH.

OH ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

AND, AND SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.

WE COULD GIVE AWAY TO TRYING TO GRAB, I MEAN WE HAD ADULTS TAKING RUBBER DUCK, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU? IT'S WITH A RUBBER DUCK.

YEAH.

I MEAN IT JUST, YEAH.

OR TAKING MORE BAGS OR WHATEVER, BUT, OKAY.

SO I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH COMMUNITY .

SO HOW ABOUT YOU HAVE A WINTER PREP AND FACILITIES, AMENITIES? YES.

JOSH IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.

UM, SO THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO, HE WANTED ME TO ADDRESS WAS LEAVES ARE FALLING AT A MUCH SLOWER CONSISTENT RATE THAN THEY NORMALLY DO BY NOW.

USUALLY EVERYTHING HAS FALLEN AND CLEANUP HAS BEEN DONE.

AS YOU CAN SEE BY ANY OF OUR LOCATIONS.

THERE'S STILL A NUMBER OF TREES THAT HAVE LEAVES

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AND THEY JUST KEEP FALLING CONSISTENTLY.

SO IT'S JUST BEEN HIM AND HIS CREW DOING LEAVES EVERY WEEK FOR THE, THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.

THEY LOVE TO LIVE.

I KNOW , I'M LIKE, THEIR LEAVE PRETTY, THEY JUST PUT HER MULCH OR I FEEL LIKE WHAT I SEE IS THEY HAVE THESE HUGE BACKPACKS ON, THEY BLOW ALL THE LEAVES INTO THIS HUGE PILE AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS MACHINE THAT SUCKS 'EM ALL UP.

AND THEN WHAT THEY DO WITH THEM AFTER THAT, I DON'T KNOW, IT DOESN'T, I'M SURE THEY TAKE HIM TO THE COMPOST SITE BY THE END OF THE WEEK, BUT EVERY WEEK I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY DOING.

THEY MIGHT MIGHT, BUT UM, HE WANTED ME TO EXPLAIN THAT PART SO THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY WHERE THEY NORMALLY ARE BY THIS TIME.

UM, AND THE SKATE PARK WAS GRAFFITI LAST WEEK.

NICE.

UM, BY THE TIME WE CAUGHT WIND OF IT, UM, IT WAS ALMOST, WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN? SHOULD WE SHUT IT DOWN? DO WE? IT COULD HAVE BEEN A MONTH AGO, LIKE AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS DONE.

UM, SO THEY DID GET THAT CLEANED UP.

THEY DID CLEAN IT UP AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE DID NOT END UP SHUTTING IT DOWN BECAUSE NONE OF US FELT COMFORTABLE PUNISHING KIDS THAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A HOT MINUTE AND WE JUST WEREN'T AWARE OF IT.

WE HAVE A CAMERA BACK THERE OR YOUR CAMERA, BUT EVERYBODY TELLS ME TO GET RING DOORBELLS AND UNFORTUNATELY THE TOWNSHIP HAS A SET OF LIKE, EVERYBODY LIKE ANDERSON FARM PARK HAS A SPECIFIC CAMERA THAT TALKS TO THE SAME SYSTEM THAT POLICE HAVE.

IT'S ALL IN THE SAME SECURITY SYSTEM.

SO IT'S, THEIR CAMERAS JUST ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE, BUT EVERYBODY, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, ALL THAT, THAT HAS TO BE HOOKED UP FOR ONE PERSONS LAPTOP.

RIGHT.

BUT, UM, BUT I KNOW POLICE BECAUSE OF THE NEW PLAYGROUND IN NEW FACILITIES, IN HIGHER USER RATES THIS YEAR WE DID PUT IT IN FOR THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR TO GET MORE CAMPUSES CAMERA THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY.

SO HOPEFULLY IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE BOARD SAYS AND HOW THEY APPROVE THE BUDGETS FOR NEXT YEAR.

THEY DON'T GO UNTIL THE, OKAY.

UM, THAT WAS IT.

ALRIGHTY.

SO OTHER COMMENTS? ANY ANYTHING ELSE? I ONLY HAVE ONE THING.

.

JUST ONE THING.

WHAT HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY OR WHAT IS EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS ON THE FACT THAT KEN IS NOT, UM, LIKE WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT 2023? CAUSE IN OUR ORDINANCE IT DOES SAY WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS AND IT'S FINE THAT HE CAN'T BE HERE OF COURSE, BUT HE'S A VOLUNTEER.

I THINK WE'RE TREATING THAT SITUATION.

I THINK WE TOUCHED ON THIS LAST TIME AS IF HE'S AN EMPLOYEE.

HE'S A, HE'S A VOLUNTEER AND HE'S NOT HERE AND IT'S NOT AN POSITION.

EXACTLY.

SO I LIKE, LIKE SO I GUESS LIKE, CAN YOU TALK TO TIM AND SAY THAT THAT'S OUR, LIKE WE'RE DOWN A PERSON ABSOLUTELY.

AND WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND IF IF HE WANTS TO COME BACK, WE COULD MAYBE EVEN GET A TEMPORARY PERSON RIGHT.

THAT MAYBE THEN WOULD SEE THAT THEY LIKE THIS.

SO, SO THERE'S SO MANY OPTIONS, BUT RIGHT.

PREVENTS US FROM HAVING NINE PEOPLE.

IT'S NOT LIKE THE SAME SALARY.

IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE THOUGH.

THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CAME UP, THEY'VE PROVEN NEW.

THEY, IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, IT GOES, HAS TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE PROCESS.

YEAH.

IT'S A MONTH OF ADVERTISING AND IT'S A, I KNOW I KNOW'S SCARED , BUT THEY, I MEAN THEY, THEY'VE DECIDED WATCHING.

YES.

THEY'VE DECIDED SEVEN IS THE NUMBER.

SO WE CAN WORK WITH THAT.

EXCEPT FOR WE'VE BEEN SHORT AND I THINK THAT THE 2023 NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED.

I THINK EVERYONE'S A LITTLE LIKE HESITANT BECAUSE YEAH.

AND THAT'S GREAT.

GREAT.

BUT AT THE SAME EXTENT, IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION OF FROM HIM STATING FROM MY PREVIOUS EMAILS, LIKE, YES, FILL IN SOMEONE FOR ME AND THEN I WILL, I WILL CONTACT YOU WHEN I RETURN, SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING I, OR IF IT'S AS SIMPLE, WE COULD EVEN FIND SOMEBODY THAT MAY WANT BE A TEMPORARY POSITION.

AND IF HE, THE QUESTION IS CAN HE, CAN HE RESPOND? WELL, IT WAS BEFORE HE LEFT.

OH, THIS WAS BEFORE HE LEFT.

OKAY.

I MEANT, BUT NOW, BUT NOW, YEAH.

I MEAN I DON'T GET ANY LIKE NON-DELIVERABLE.

I DON'T GET LIKE ANYTHING ON THOSE LINES, BUT YEAH.

YEAH.

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UM, I WILL TALK TO TIM AND BRIAN AGAIN AND SEE IF I CAN TALK TO COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A GUY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I, I WAS AT A PARTY AND, AND TALKING ABOUT IT AND HE'S, HE'S LIKE, I, I'D LOVE TO BE ON, UM, PARKS AND REC BOARD.

AND I WAS LIKE, SERIOUSLY, YOU REALLY, YOU WOULD? I SAID, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, BE A TEMPORARY PERSON MM-HMM.

IN CASE.

AND HE WAS LIKE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THEN I GET TO TRY IT OUT.

AND SO THERE'S, WE CAN DO THINGS WITH THIS, BUT NOT UNLESS WE GET THE OKAY.

TO MOVE FORWARD SINCE WE IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

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SO ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

I THINK WE'RE, OH, WE DIDN'T DO PARK WALK, WE DIDN'T HAVE PARK WALK.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN IT'S DONE.

THEY'RE DONE.

WOO.

COMMUNITY QUESTION.

YEAH.

NO, WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE OH, I BACK.

I DID, I DID NOTICE THIS.

I'M JUST GONNA BE OBNOXIOUS.

HERE WE GO.

JUST THIS IS IN A ME THING, SO GO FOR IT.

YEAH.

LIKE WHY ARE WE PUTTING, LIKE WHY ARE WE ADVERTISING THAT REGULAR TRASH CANS CAN BE FOUND AT ALL OUR PARKS? IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING TO KNOW.

TO REMOVE.

TO REMOVE.

AND ESPECIALLY WE'RE, WE'RE SHOWING, WE'RE LISTING ALL OUR PARKS IN THIS.

YEAH.

LIKE LOOK ALL OF OUR PARKS AND THEN TRASHCANS CAN BE AT ALL OUR PARKS.

WELL WE DON'T HAVE 'EM AT, THEY'RE COULDN'T THEY PUT SOMETHING IN THERE? THE TRASH CANS AREN'T PRESENT CAN TAKE AND TAKE OUT.

EXACTLY.

SO IT JUST, THAT'S FAIR.

IT'S JUST A SILLY THING I JUST NOTICED.

BUT IT'S NOT SILLY, IT'S NOT ADVERTISING, IT'S JUST CONSISTENCY.

SO ESPECIALLY IF WE WANNA BE SEEING IF HOW IT WOULD WORK WITHOUT IT.

I FORGET WHAT WE CALL THAT.

YEAH.

TOWNSHIP OVER HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I THINK THAT'S IT.

SO WE CAN UM, ADJOURN THE MEETING IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO DISCUSS.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 7 29 OR SO.

OKAY.

SO RECORD BREAKING MEETING.

I KNOW WHEN WE EVEN HAD A GUEST.

I KNOW.

MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

GOOD.

WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT.

GOOD.

WELL HAVE A NICE.