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[APPROVE AGENDA]
APPROVE THE AGENDA.SO, UH, FIRST THAT JEFF SENT OUT, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY GOT A COPY OF IT.
HE SENT OUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I NEED A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT OR, UH, AMEND THE, UH, UH, UH, THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA.
GIL'S MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
I'VE GOT A SECOND AND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR.
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UM, THANK YOU.[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.UH, GIL HAS ONCE AGAIN, APPROVED, UH, UH, MADE A MOTION TO PROVE.
[2. Grant Opportunities]
[3. Stormwater Best Management Practices and Stormwater Basins]
SURE.SO, UM, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO I WENT TO A SEMINAR THAT IT, THEY GAVE US THIS PAPER THAT YOU GUYS GOT IN YOUR PACKET, AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE PAPER YOU GOT IN YOUR PACKET.
AND I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.
THEY GAVE US A WHOLE LIST OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WHAT I DID WAS I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE GRANTS THAT THEY LISTED AND KIND OF PICKED DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I THOUGHT THAT THE GRANTS WOULD GO ALONG WITH.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRANT PAPER, YOU CAN SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE TREE VITALIZED GRANT, WHICH IS A PRETTY COMMON GRANT THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, PLANTING SOME TREES AT THE TAYLOR PROPERTIES.
SO I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I LISTED THE LOCATION THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD FOR.
AND THEN PARTNER ORGANIZATION IS ALWAYS A REALLY GOOD THING TO HAVE WITH GRANTS.
UM, IT JUST HELPS YOU GET, IT GIVES YOU A BETTER CHANCE OF BEING LOOKED AT FOR THE GRANT GRANTS, YOU KNOW, THINGS.
SO I KIND OF CHOSE SOME THAT WE ALREADY WORK WITH THAT PEOPLE, UM, WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON THIS GRANT.
AND THEN THEY USES FINAL COLUMNS KIND OF WHAT ARE THE, SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH THESE OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THEM, BUT THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD ONES IN HERE THAT I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO PERKY IN THE WATERSHED ABOUT POSSIBLY TRYING TO PUT IN FOR THE REVITALIZED GRANT, CUZ THEY DO THAT ONE A LOT WITH, UM, PLANTING FOR RIPARIAN BUFFER ZONES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND WITH THE TAILOR PROPERTY, THERE'S A STREAM ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, OBVIOUSLY USING THAT FOR, UM, TO BUILD UP THAT RIPARIAN ZONE.
SO THEY'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PLANT SOME EXTRA TREES ON THE PROPERTY AND KIND OF CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A FOREST BUFFER THERE FOR SOME OF THE FIELDS.
SO, UH, BASIC, I MEAN, JEFF ALSO WRITES A LOT OF THE GRANTS FOR THE TOWNSHIP AS WELL.
SO HE IS A LITTLE MORE VERSED IN THIS THAN I AM.
I'VE ONLY WORKED ON ONE GRANT SO FAR, WHICH I WAS AWARDED, UM, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION, THE WATERSHEDS.
UM, BUT BASICALLY EACH GRANT HAS DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT THEY WILL LIST THAT THEY WOULD LIKE YOU TO MEET.
AND YOU BASICALLY FOLLOW THAT CRITERIA.
AND IF YOU FOLLOW IT PRETTY MUCH, SOME OF THEM WILL HAVE GRANT SEMINARS THAT YOU CAN GO TO WHERE THEY'LL TELL YOU HOW THEY WANT YOU TO DO IT OR GIVE YOU TIPS ON HOW TO DO IT.
UM, CNR IS ONE OF THOSE THAT DOES HAVE A GRANT SEMINAR EVERY
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YEAR.UM, AND THEY'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU TIDBITS OF INFORMATION AS TO HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WRITTEN.
AND YOU CAN KIND OF TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE GRANTS, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, KIND OF GET EVERYTHING SET IN STONE.
YOU WOULD TALK TO YOUR PARTNER ORGANIZATION IF YOU HAVE ANY AND KIND OF GET THEM SOMETIMES THEY'LL WRITE THE GRANTS.
I KNOW PERFUME AND WATERSHED WILL OFTEN BE VERY HELPFUL WITH WRITING GRANTS.
UM, CUZ THEY DO THAT QUITE OFTEN AS A NONPROFIT.
AND SO IT'S EITHER UP TO YOU, YOU KIND OF WRITE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO USE THE GRANT FOR AND THEY'LL USUALLY LIST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANT YOU TO ANSWER THAT WILL TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT.
AND THEN IF YOU ARE AWARDED THE GRANT, THERE ARE SOME USUALLY RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW, UM, TO SHOW THAT YOU'VE MET THOSE, YOU'VE DONE THOSE THINGS AND WHO WHO'S, WHO, WHO, WHO GIVES THE GRANT? WHERE'S THE GRANT COMING FROM? WHERE'S THE GRANT.
IT DEPENDS ON WHICH COMPANY OR, WELL, LET'S JUST TAKE THAT FIRST ONE.
SO TREE VITALIZE, I BELIEVE THAT'S THROUGH PEN IS PENN STATE EXTENSION, I THINK.
YES THAT'S THROUGH PENN STATE EXTENSION.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHO'S OFFERING THE GRANT LIKE, UM, DEP ACTION.
UM, GROWING GREENER IS THE CNR I THINK CNR, UM, IT IT'S MOSTLY MOST OF THE TIME IT'S GONNA BE A STATE AGENCY, WHETHER IT'S DEPART OF NATURAL RESOURCES OR CNR IS CONSERVATION, NATURAL RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION PENDOT UM, YOU KNOW, IT IT'S, IT'S A WIDE VARIETY OF STATE AGENCIES.
OCCASIONALLY YOU'LL GET A MORE NATIONAL AGENCY, THE LARGER THE AGENCY, THE MORE COMPETITION YOU'RE GONNA GET.
SO, AND THE BROADER SCOPE OF WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WANT THE GRANT FOR.
SO SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE TREE VITALIZES A PENN STATE AND THEIR SMALLER GRANTS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO GET SMALLER GRANTS FOR 50 AND 60,000 THAN IT IS TO GO OUT THERE AND FIND THE GRANT FOR 10 MILLION, 5 MILLION, 2 MILLION.
AND, AND SO THOSE ARE THE ONES WE TEND TO AIM FOR CUZ WE'VE BEEN, AND WE'VE BEEN REAL SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING THEM.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A LIST ON THE TOWNSHIP WEBSITE.
IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, THEY HAVE A LIST OF GRANTS THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR AND HAVE BEEN AWARDED OR HAVEN'T BEEN AWARDED.
WE KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE ONES THAT WE APPLY FOR AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE GOTTEN AWARDED YET OR, UM, WAITING WHAT PROCESS, WHAT PART OF THE PROCESS WE'RE IN WITH THAT? AND THE AMOUNTS YOU SAY, WHAT I HEAR, WHAT YOU SAY, JEFF, THEY VARY DEPENDING ON WHAT YEAH, THEY VERY, USUALLY USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THEY, THEY DON'T SET AN AMOUNT, A GRANT WON'T SET AN AMOUNT FOR YOU.
WE'VE GOTTEN TWO MONTGOMERY COUNTY, 2040 GRANTS, WHICH IS THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GRANT ONE FOR THE TRAIL GOING IN, ACROSS HERE FROM BLACKROCK PARK, DOWN TO THE SCHOOL OLD TRAIL, WE'VE GOTTEN A, A, A GRANT FOR THAT.
IT TOOK US A COUPLE YEARS AND, AND SOMETIMES WITH THESE GRANTS, IT'S BETTER.
IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T GET IT, YOU REAPPLY BECAUSE THEY, THEY BECOME FAMILIAR WITH YOUR PROJECT.
AND THEN YOU SLOWLY SORT OF FILTER YOUR WAY TO THE TOP.
UM, IT JUST DEPENDS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN PARTNER WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, IT'S HELPFUL.
UM, THAT'S WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING FOR A LARGER GRANT, THE MORE PEOPLE YOU SORT OF HAVE INVOLVED THE BETTER OFF YOU ARE FOR US.
AS I SAID, WE'VE BEEN REAL SUCCESSFUL WITH MONTGOMERY COUNTY GRANTS, TREE VITALIZED AND, AND JUST SOME OF THE SMALLER ONES.
AND, AND WE'RE, UH, WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST OTHER TOWNSHIPS FOR THAT.
YOU COMPETE AGAINST EVEN PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS TOO.
THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, LIKE EVEN SOME OF THE UTILITY COMPANIES WILL DO GRANTS.
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UH, THERE'S IT REALLY, THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS.
THERE'S A LOT OF, LOT OF, A LOT OF CHOICES DO GRANTS.
YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND KIND OF FIND THAT PROJECT.
THAT'S, IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FIRST, LIKE HAVE A PROJECT IN MIND FOR IT, WHICH IS WHY I PUT THE USES ON THERE MM-HMM
WALK THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WALKWORKS, THAT WAS A NICE COMBINATION GRANT.
UM, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT MORE, I THINK THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S JUST AS MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS OR FOR TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS AND MCMAHON AND ASSOCIATES HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD AT GETTING US OUT THERE FOR GRANTS.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BEHIND ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE EAC CAN HELP US DO IS IDENTIFY PROJECTS AND MOVE THINGS FORWARD IN, IN THE IDENTIFYING OF THESE PROJECTS AND THE USES.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IT.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE IN THE TOWNSHIP ALREADY? I MEAN, DO WE HAVE, IS OUR TOWNSHIP ENGINEER INVOLVED WITH OVERSIGHT
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OF STORM WATER CONTAINMENT AREAS? UH, IS, DO WE HAVE MAINTENANCE GUYS THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO DO RESTORATION, UH, TO MINIMIZE, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING SPENT ON PROJECTS? I DON'T KNOW THIS SO WELL GENERALLY.I MEAN, WE HAVE A TOWNSHIP ENGINEER AND, AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT, AS YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, GETTING SOMETHING, GETTING A QUALITY INSULATION, RIGHT.
WHEN IT'S NEW, THEY'RE THE CURRENT PROJECT.
THEY'RE THEY'RE AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS A SLIGHT TO THEM AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH FOLLOW UP THERE IS YEAR TO YEAR.
YOU KNOW? SO AFTER SOMETHING GETS DEVELOPED AFTER A HOUSING, YOU KNOW, A SECTION OF HOUSING GETS BUILT AND IT'S CLOSED OUT AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH FOLLOW UP.
IT'S MORE ON THE HOA TO SORT OF FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THIS MAY THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
USUALLY IT IS UP TO THE HOA YES.
TO MAINTAIN THOSE RESOURCES WITHIN A PROPERTY.
MOST DON'T DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR LAST OPTION FOR SPENDING MONEY.
AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.
AND, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN THOSE, WHEN THOSE STORM WATER FACILITIES FAIL, IT'S NOT THE HOA.
I MEAN, IT IS THE HOA, BUT IT REALLY COMES.
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SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING AS STAFF AND SOME OF THE SUPERVISORS HAVE SAID, LOOK, I WANNA START A PROGRAM WHERE WE GO OUT AND WE, WE START LOOKING AT THESE BASINS AND WE EDUCATE THOSE HOAS TO TELL THEM HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO BRING THIS BACK TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T QUITE KNOW WHERE IT IS, BUT THAT'S, THAT IS WHERE WE'RE.
I JUST WANT TO, I'M TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP ON YEAH.
UM, WHETHER IT'S OVERSIGHT OR, OR EVEN EDUCATING FOR, UH, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
THAT'S SORT OF ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK THAT WE, WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE EAC WAS SOMETHING THAT CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO EDUCATE.
THERE'S THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER.
WHO'S DOING ENGINEERING THINGS AND EDUCATING THE HOA.
SARAH PROBABLY GETS A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT IT.
I GET SOME PHONE CALLS ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE SOME SORT OF OUTREACH BOARD.
AND I THINK I, I COULD SAY THAT THE OVERLAP OF A LOT OF THIS IS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE I KNOW EVERY PROJECT WE LOOK AT, RIGHT.
TOM, IT'S NOT THAT GROUP
SO IT'S, UH, SO IT ALSO GOES ALONG WITH THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY TOO, WITH THE MS. FOUR, UM, A LOT OF THIS GOES, A LOT OF THE BASIN GOES ALONG WITH THE WORK THAT MS. FOUR IS DOING.
SO BECAUSE WE'RE INVOLVED WITH MS. FOUR THAT DOES, THAT HAS PROMPTED SOME MORE MOVEMENT HELP ME.
SO MS. FOUR IS MUNICIPAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ESSENTIALLY.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT I DON'T.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT STANDS FOR, BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HAS COME DOWN AND SAID, EVERY MUNICIPALITY NEEDS TO MEET THESE, THIS CRITERIA FOR STORM WATER, CLEANLINESS AND STORM WATER PROTECTION.
AND THEY'VE BASICALLY SAID, YOU GO FIGURE IT OUT.
ANOTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE, THERE ARE SOME PLACES I'VE SEEN RECENTLY THAT HAVE DONE JUST AMAZING WORK, UH, PRIVATELY S SCI DID AN AMAZING WETLAND RESTORATION.
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DON'T LET YOUR NEIGHBORS HEAR YOU COMPLIMENT S SCI
I, I, I COMPLIMENT PEOPLE THAT DO THE RIGHT THING.
I UNDERSTAND
I, A LOT OF BUSINESSES, THAT'S NOT THEIR PRIORITY.
THAT'S NOT THEIR FIRST PRIORITY, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A SUGGESTION IN HERE.
WHEN SOMEONE DOES THAT A PRIVATE BUSINESS OR ANYONE, IT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED.
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SO JUST EXAMPLE FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS, THESE GUYS DID, LET'S TRY TO SP AND THERE ARE DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN WITH A BARE BONES THING, AND I'VE SEEN SOME COME IN WITH AN INTENT OF TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S FUNCTIONAL AND ATTRACTIVE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE DEAL WITH IT ALL THE TIME.
I, I, I, I THINK WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME MAKING SURE, AS YOU JUST STATED THAT THE WATERSHED ISSUE IS ADDRESSED WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THERE'S, AGAIN, THERE'S A BARE BONES AND THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER THAT, THAT HAVE WE DONE JUST BARE BONES? IS THAT WHAT YOU, YOU, YOU SUGGESTED HAVE DONE.
IT'S PRESENTED TO US THAT WAY.
AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO CATCH IT AND PUT IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTIONS.
IF I WAS A DEVELOPER, I CAN GIVE IT BY I, THE MINIMUM'S THE MINIMUM.
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I, I WAS LOOKING AT NOT CREATING REDUNDANCY IF WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE AND MAYBE I'M ASKING WELL, BUT I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR THIS BOARD.IF THEY WERE TO TAKE ON SOME SORT OF EDUCATIONAL ROLE.
LIKE IF, IF YOU WANTED TO SORT OF TAKE THAT PACKET, I SENT YOU AND DISSEMINATE IT DOWN TO WHAT YOU THINK WOULD WORK WELL FOR AN HOA, BOIL THAT DOWN FOR US.
AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THAT AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE AND WE CAN SAY THE EACS PUBLISH THIS.
AND MAYBE WE FIGURE OUT TO MAIL IT TO ALL THE HOA.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO TRACK DOWN WHO RUNS ALL OF THE HOAS THAT YOU WOULDN'T THINK THAT THAT'S DIFFICULT OF A TASK, BUT I HAD MY ZONING CLERK SPEND TWO WEEKS ON IT.
AND SHE STILL ONLY FOUND ABOUT HALF OF THEM BECAUSE A PEOPLE MOVE, PEOPLE DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT NAMES.
SO YOU CALL SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND I'M A RESIDENT, SHE'S A RESIDENT.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, I THINK IT'S JOHN.
YOU CALLED JOHN, YOU GET AHOLD OF JOHN.
JOHN'S LIKE, YEAH, NO, I'VE NEVER DONE IT.
I THINK IT WAS GEORGE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT YOU'VE, YOU'VE GONE THROUGH EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF, IF AS THE AAC, THAT'S, I THINK A GOOD FIRST STEP IS TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF EDUCATIONAL, EVEN JUST SIMPLIFIED POWERPOINT TO GET OUT TO ALL THE HOAS AND TO GET ONTO OUR WEBSITE.
SO, SO AS, AS, AS THE TOWNSHIP POSTED TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE, MAYBE THAT'S THE WRONG WORD.
HERE'S WHAT WE THINK YOU SHOULD DO AS AN HOA TO PROTECT WATER RUNOFF, STORM DRAIN EACH STUFF LIKE THAT.
ARE THEY REQUIRED THEN TO MEET THOSE? NO.
AND, AND I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THE NEXT STEP OF THAT AND WE CAN DRAG THE ENGINEER OUT HERE AND SAY FROM THE MS. FOUR REQUIREMENT, WHAT DO YOU REQUIRE? AND WE CAN WORK WITH, WITH THE MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY AND, YOU KNOW, THE TWO BODIES WORKING TOGETHER AS TO ADVISE AND TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD, TO SEE IF THEY CAN CHANGE SOME OF THE ORDINANCES.
BUT, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS LIKE WITH, WITH WETLAND'S PRESERVATION OR RESTORATION MM-HMM
IT'S TO CREATE A BALANCE AGAIN, MM-HMM
SO THAT'S KIND OF PART THAT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH MS. FOUR PART OF THE MS. FOUR REQUIREMENTS FOR US TO MEET EVERY YEAR IS EDUCATION.
AND SO I'VE KIND OF TAKEN THAT ON FOR PARKS AND REC CUZ WE'RE THE ONES THAT KIND OF DO THAT, THAT REALM OF STUFF.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE TRIED TO DO SOME EDUCATION, THINGS ABOUT WATERSHEDS.
WE WORK WITH PERM AND WATERSHED TO PROMOTE LIKE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS AND RAIN, GARDEN WORKSHOPS, BUT THIS, UM, ENHANCING COMMUNITY WET AREAS AND STORMWATER BASINS, POWERPOINT THAT YOU GUYS GOT.
THIS IS, UM, A REALLY GREAT LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BASINS AND THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN ENHANCE YOUR WATER WETLAND AREAS.
AND THIS WAS DONE BY A MASTER, UH, MASTER WATERSHED STEWARD.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT MASTER WATERSHED STEWARDS IS.
I, I READ THROUGH IT AND I WENT ONLINE AND JUST, YEAH.
SORT OF JUMPED INTO THE RABBIT HOLE.
SO THEY WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO VOLUNTEER HOURS.
SO THIS MAN CHOSE HIS, HIS, UH, HOA AND MADE, HELPED MAKE THEIR WETLANDS INTO HABITABLE AREAS FOR WILDLIFE AND THE IMPACT THAT THEY'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, IT INCREASES HOME VALUE.
IT DOES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PLETHORA OF THINGS THAT IT DOES.
AND JUST GETTING THAT OUT THERE AND EDUCATING PEOPLE, LIKE YOU SAID, IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT SORT OF, I GOT FROM IT AND I'M NOT, I DON'T WANNA HARP ON IT TOO MUCH IS WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION ABOUT GOOD AND BAD WATERWAY PRACTICES IN HEALTH, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
HOW ARE WE IN THE TOWNSHIP
AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO EDUCATION.
WE WE'VE REALLY JUST UP TO THIS POINT, EXPECTED A RESIDENT LIKE YOURSELF TO GO FALL DOWN A RABBIT HALL AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I THINK THE, I THINK THE POINT BEHIND THE AC IS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE TO GET OUT THERE.
AND EVEN IF IT'S JUST SEND OUT, PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE WEBSITE, SENDING OUT A LETTER, YOU KNOW, TO GET IT, GET MAYBE GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH SOME OF IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK WHAT WE, WE'RE HOPING WE GET TO, AS TOM SAID, WE'RE ALL SORT OF FEELING OUR I OUR WAY.
I'M PRETTY SURE WE ALL FEEL THE SAME WAY.
IT'S LIKE A, IT'S A LEARNING CURVE RIGHT HERE.
SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN, UH, YOU KNOW, DID WITH THIS, THIS PENN STATE STUDY, WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT DOING AN INVENTORY AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING PROBLEMS WITH DIFFERENT IS, IS THIS A PROGRAM PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD HIRE A THIRD PARTY TO, TO DO THIS, OR IS PENN STATE OFFERING TO DO THIS PART OF SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE OR HOW'S THAT? SO, UM, THE MAN WHO DID THIS ROSS SN HE IS A SUPERVISOR
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OVER AT NEWHAN OVER TOWNSHIP AND HE ALSO RUNS THEIR EAC THERE.SO IF YOU'RE EVER INTERESTED IN GOING TO ANY OF THEIR MEETING, THEY ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND HE SAID HE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE ANYBODY THERE.
UM, HE ACTUALLY, I'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH HIM.
HE'S, HE'S TAKEN THIS ON AND KIND OF REALLY PUSHED FOR NEW HANOVER TO GET INTO THIS REALM OF, OF KNOWING WHAT THEIR BASINS ARE LIKE.
AND HE, YOU KNOW, SHOWS YOU IN THESE, IN THIS PACKET THAT NONE OF, SOME OF THEIR BASINS ARE NOT GOOD.
AND HE, IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PERFECT THE FIRST TIME YOU GO THROUGH IT, PENN STATE OFFERS THESE, UM, THESE SHEETS, THESE, UH, LIKE THESE GRAPHS SO THAT YOU CAN, CAN DO IT YOURSELF.
THEY DON'T, THEY WON'T COME OUT AND DO IT FOR YOU.
BUT HE WAS SAYING THAT YOU CAN USE, UM, MASTER WATERSHED STEWARDS WHO ARE MORE VERSED IN THIS TYPE OF STUFF TO COME OUT AND DO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ALONGSIDE OF YOU.
UM, BUT WE COULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, A WAY TO LOOK INTO STARTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE TO CONTACT ROSS AND I HAVE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU GUYS.
I THINK IT'S IN THE PACKET AS WELL.
HIS EMAIL'S IN THERE, OR, YEAH.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC THING, YOU CAN EMAIL HIM AND HE IS A RETIRED HYDROLOGIST AND GEOLOGIST.
SO HE IS REALLY INTO THIS STUFF AND HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
SO HE'S DEFINITELY A GOOD RESOURCE TO CONTACT ABOUT THIS IN GENERAL AND ABOUT HOW TO LIKE START THAT.
BUT I KNOW WE DO HAVE AN INVENTORY, YOU KNOW, WE DO USE GIS.
WE, I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THE BASINS INTO THE GIS IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY.
I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE NECESSARILY WRITTEN AS WHETHER THEY'RE GOOD OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF DATA IS ON THERE, BUT THERE, THERE IS AN INVENTORY.
AND WHO, WHO PUT THAT? I BELIEVE IT WAS IT'S IT'S EITHER PUBLIC WORKS OR OUR TOWNSHIP ENGINEER.
THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE THE INFORMATION TOGETHER.
I MEAN, IF NOT, I MEAN, I'M, I'LL TALK TO THEM TOMORROW BECAUSE SOMETIMES OUR GIS GETS A LITTLE DISJOINTED.
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS I DO, CERTAIN THINGS THEY DO.
I'LL ASK THEM AND SEE SORT OF WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH IT AND WHAT THEY HAVE.
AND THEN I CAN TAKE OVER AND, AND SORT OF MEASURE IT TOGETHER FOR A MAP.
SO MAYBE FOR NOVEMBER'S MEETING, WE'LL BRING THAT MAP AND WE'LL SHOW WHAT TOWNSHIP BASINS THERE ARE IN TERMS OF HOW MANY BASINS THERE ARE THROUGHOUT THE TOWNSHIP.
I MEAN, WE'LL SEE WHAT INFORMATION WE HAVE THERE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COUPLE MONTH MAPPING PROCESS, RIGHT? JUST WHAT THE TOWNSHIP OWNS AND CONTROLS AND MAINTAINS.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE START WITH.
WE HAVE THE EAC GO AND TAKE THAT CHART AND DO A LITTLE RECON ON IT AND THEN DO IT INDIVIDUALLY AND COME BACK AND COMPARE IT.
AND WE CAN SEE WHERE, WHAT THE NEXT STEPS COULD BE.
AND MAYBE THAT, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY EFFORT TOWARDS A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM UNTIL A, A, A, A FACILITY IS FAILING, RIGHT.
AND THE, THE NA NEIGHBOR DOWNSTREAM CALLS THE TOWNSHIP AS SAY, HEY, THIS, UH, BASIN AT THE SUCH AND SUCH DEVELOPMENT IS RIPPING A, A BOARD THROUGH MY BACKYARD HERE OR PUTTING MY BASIN.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY STUFF OUT THERE FOR HOMEOWNERS TOO.
UM, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MUNICIPALITY TO APPLY FOR THOSE.
SO AN HOA COULD APPLY FOR THAT TO GET A GRANT.
UM, THEY DID THAT FOR, UM, TONY CREEK AND THEY, YOU KNOW, GOT A COUPLE OF GRANTS.
THEY WORKED WITH THE TOWNSHIP TO DO THAT AS A PARTNERING ORGANIZATION.
UM, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT THERE DEFINITELY ARE GRANTS OUT THERE FOR THAT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT IS WATERSHEDS.
THERE'S A REALLY BIG PUSH RIGHT NOW FOR WATER, LIKE CLEAN WATER, WATERSHED, RIPARIAN, BUFFER, STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH WOULD ALL COINCIDE WITH STUFF THAT YOU COULD DO WITH, UH, CURRENTLY AT THE MOMENT.
NO, UM, SOME OF THE GRANTS, THEY HAVE WINDOWS, CERTAIN WINDOWS THAT YOU CAN APPLY IN.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE GRANTS ARE OPEN.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THE DE E E, WHICH IS ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION.
THAT GRANT IS CURRENTLY OPEN AND ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW UNTIL DECEMBER.
BUT THEN ONCE DECEMBER HITS, THEY'LL CLOSE AND THEN THEY'LL START DOING THAT.
BUT THERE'S OTHER ONES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT WINDOWS DEPENDS ON.
YOU USUALLY HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT HAS TO BE SHOVEL READY, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY WANT SOMETHING THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT IT HELPS CLOSE TO SHOVEL.
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ANYBODY I KNOW GIL ISN'T THEY KNOW WHERE HE LIVES.DOES ANYBODY HERE HAVE AN HOA HAVE ANY, WHAT HAVE AN HOA WHERE THEY LIVE? I AM THE H HOA
WOULD YOU WANNA REACH OUT TO THEM? AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY BASINS OR ANYTHING THERE.
AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PUT ON THE WEBSITE, LIKE JEFF WAS SAYING, YOU CAN HAVE LINKS TO GRANTS AND HAVE ALL OF THAT LISTED THAT WAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRINT IT OUT AND KNOW PEOPLE
WE KIND OF, WE KIND OF DELVED AWAY GRANTS.
WELL, A LOT TO THINK ABOUT WITH THAT, UH, WHAT I'LL DO IS FOR THE NEXT MEETING, HOW ABOUT THIS? HOW ABOUT I'LL I'LL PUT TOGETHER MAP SHARING WHAT TOWNSHIP BASINS WE HAVE AND THEN SOMETIME BETWEEN YEAH.
SOMETIME BETWEEN NOVEMBER'S MEETING AND WHATEVER THE SCHEDULE IS FOR THE, FOR 20, 23, WE CAN GO OUT AND WE CAN MAYBE JUST DO, YOU KNOW, FILL OUT THIS CHART AS BEST WE CAN.
I DON'T, I NEED TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND SEE IF IT HAS TO BE A SPRING OR SUMMER THING.
IF YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HEALTH OF PLANTS, IT'S NOT GONNA DO A LOT OF GOOD TO DO IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, BUT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT AND SORT OF START THAT PROCESS.
SO IT'S EASIER IF WE'VE DONE IT.
WE CAN, IT'S EASIER TO EDUCATE SOME PEOPLE HOW TO DO IT.
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YOU KNOW, WELL, WE HAVE A BASIN, RIGHT? I JUST DON'T.
IT'S NOT, WE DON'T HAVE AN HOA.
SO I THINK THE PERSON THAT BOUGHT THAT LOT WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, YES, IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT BASE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO OR DON'T DO.
WELL, MY GUESS IS DON'T DO, DON'T DO, DON'T DO ANYTHING HERE, BUT ISN'T THERE SOME REQUIREMENT TO KEEP IT DRAINAGE OPEN? WELL, AGAIN, IT, WHAT, WHAT GIL WAS SAYING IS WHEN IT FAILS, SOMEONE GOES TO THE NEIGHBOR, DOWNSTREAM, GOES TO 'EM AND SAYS, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS FAILING.
THEY COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS FAILING.
WE SEND SOMEONE OUT THERE TO LOOK AT IT.
AND WE TELL THE HOMEOWNER, BY THE WAY, THIS IS FAILING.
YOU NEED TO FIX A, B AND C AND THEN THEY GO, THEY EITHER FIX IT BECAUSE THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE OR THEY DON'T FIX IT.
AND THEN WE LEAN THE PROPERTY AND THEN WHAT YOU DO IT, WE LEAN THE PROPERTY UNTIL THEY PAY US BACK.
AND, AND SO I WONDER, THAT'S A QUESTION I HAD, UH, AS PROPERTIES ARE DEVELOPED, DOES THE TOWNSHIP REQUIRE SOMETHING PUT IN THE DEED TO THAT EFFECT THAT THE TOWNSHIP YES.
IS ALLOWED TO GO IN THERE AND FIX IT SO FORTH? YES.
THERE'S A STORMWATER, UM, BMP OR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE OR RESTRICTION THAT THEY SIGN.
THE DEVELOPER SIGNS WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY BUILD THE HOUSE AND THAT CARRIES OVER THE, BUT SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, THAT OWNS THIS BASIN IN OUR, IN OUR DEVELOPMENT OR IS RESPONSIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY OWN, I GUESS THEY OWN IT.
ARE THEY TRAINED AND HOW TO MAINTAIN IT? NO.
WHEN THEY TAKE IT OVER, DO THEY, DOES SOMEBODY SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
WELL, AND HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE, IF THAT BASIN WAS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY, THEY FOUND THAT OFFENSIVE, THEY MIGHT START SLOWLY FILLING IT IN OVER TIME.
NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, I DON'T THINK THEY DO THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK I REALLY DON'T.
I'M NOT SAYING EVERYBODY DOES.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF THE ONE THAT I, I DRIVE BY EVERY DAY.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING BAD EITHER.
AND, AND A LOT OF BASINS, NOT TO THE LEVEL OF WHAT THE, THE, THE HANDOUT, BUT A LOT OF BASINS ARE SORT OF SEDIMENT FORGET.
'EM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THEY CAN DO THAT.
BUT SEDIMENT DOES BUILD UP OVER TIME AND THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS YOU, YOU SHOULD MAINTAIN.
AND I KNOW I'VE NEVER BEEN INSTRUCTED TO REACH OUT TO A HOMEOWNER OR TO ANYBODY.
IT, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO WHEN IT FAILS, WE GO CORRECT IT.
THE PRO THE PROBLEM BASICALLY IS, AND THIS IS COMING FROM A GUY WHO WAS A BUILDER.
SO I'M SAYING THAT THEY TELL THE BUILDER WHAT TO DO, HOW TO MAINTAIN IT AND WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE, WHAT THEY SHOULD DO TO KEEP IT UP.
AND THE BUILDER, THEY TELL THE BUILDER OR THE, THE BUILDER, BECAUSE WE GET THE PRINTS.
WE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PRINTS.
YOU TRANSFER THAT INFORMATION THEN TO THE PERSON THAT TAKES OVER THE PROPERTY.
WELL, I BUILD HOSPITALS, SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, I DIDN'T DO.
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WITH YOU MORE THAN LIKELY.AND, AND THE THING, IS IT REALLY THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS, WHETHER IT'S A RETAINING AREA BASIN, OR IF IT'S AN UNDERGROUND CONTAINMENT THROUGH A PERVIOUS PARKING LOT WHEN THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF 'EM AND WHEN IT'S TIME TO FIX IT, IT REALLY GETS EXPENSIVE.
MM-HMM
SO IT'S, AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE EDUCATION THING.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE BAD PEOPLE.
THEY JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD TO DO THAT.
AND IT THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING INTO.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A PROBLEM.
BUT OTHER THAN PUTTING IT ON THE WEBSITE, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY EDUCATION.
RIGHT? WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN SET UP EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS TOO.
LIKE PART OF THE THING THAT WE DO WITH PARKS AND REC IS WE RUN EVENTS.
WE RUN WORKSHOPS, WE RUN PROGRAMS. WE HAVE THIS ROOM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
IT'S VERY EASY TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE HOSTING THIS, THIS THING.
WE'RE INVITING ALL OF THE HOA PEOPLE OUT TO THIS SPECIFIC WORKSHOP.
AND YOU CAN COME LEARN HOW TO, HOW, WHAT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ARE FOR YOUR BASIN AND WHY THEY'RE IMPORTANT.
AND YOU CAN EVEN PUT IT ON, LIKE, YOU COULD LIVE, STREAM IT ON YOUTUBE OR ON HERE FOR THE, THE MEETINGS WE CALL IT, YOU KNOW, AN EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOP THAT PEOPLE COULD REFER BACK TO AS WELL, THAT WOULD BE, GET THAT LIST OF HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS TO BE ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND WHOEVER REPRESENTS THEM, THERE'S PROBABLY AN ENVIRONMENTALIST, OR HOPEFULLY THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENTALIST LIVING ON MOST HOAS WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THEY COULD DO, MAYBE THERE'S GRANTS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT NATIVE PLANT SPECIES, RIGHT? LIKE GRANTS WHO PLANT SOME OF THESE LEVEL SPREADERS.
WHICH ARE JUST PROBABLY HAVE TO BE MOAN.
AND WELL, WOULD THE EEC BE INTERESTED IN HOSTING AN HOA MEETING IN JANUARY? LET'S SAY, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA SINCE WHAT WOULD WE, WHAT WOULD WE BE? WHAT WOULD, WOULD YOU SAY HOST, WHAT WOULD OFFER THEM? WELL, AS, AS PART, AS LIKE YOUR REGULAR MEETING IN JANUARY, CUZ WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE IN JANUARY FOR A REORGANIZATION MEETING ANYWAY.
SO HAVE THAT MEETING AND JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HOA ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
LEAVE IT VERY VAGUE, LEAVE IT VERY OPEN.
WE CAN START WITH SOME BASIN DISCUSSION.
WE, AND JUST SORT OF SEE WHERE THE, BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS US TRYING TO REACH OUT TO, TO FIND THESE HOAS IS BECOMING IT'S.
WE'VE SORT OF HIT THE LIMIT OF WHAT WE CAN RESEARCH BY PHONE.
IF WE PUT, IF, IF THE EAC IS COMFORTABLE DOING THIS AND WE SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY, WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS SAYING IF YOU'RE AN HOA IN UPPER PROVINCE TOWNSHIP, PLEASE REGISTER FOR THIS MEETING COMING UP IN JANUARY.
YOU GIVE PEOPLE LOTS OF LEAD TIME.
YOU GIVE PEOPLE PAST THE HOLIDAYS, CUZ YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANYBODY IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO IT IN JANUARY.
AND THAT GIVES US TIME TO HAVE ONE MORE MEETING, TO JUST SORT OF TALK ABOUT THINGS AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME OTHER AGENDA ITEMS FOR THAT MEETING AND WE JUST BRING THEM IN AND WE HAVE A CONVERSATION.
AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE PRESENT IT AS A CONVERSATION.
NOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO OFFER THEM AS SUGGESTIONS OR, WELL, WE MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING.
AND, AND, AND SOME OF THEM MAY, THIS HAPPENS WITH A LOT OF MEETINGS LIKE THIS IS, IT MAY DELVE INTO A DUMP TRUCK WHERE PEOPLE COME IN AND JUST DUMP TRUCK, EVERYTHING THAT THEY DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE TOWNSHIP ON US.
I MEAN, WE GET THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OCCASIONALLY IT'S GONNA, IT MAY HAPPEN.
BUT YEAH, THAT THAT'S JUST SO WE KNOW THAT GOING IN, THAT'S JUST SORT OF IS WHAT IT IS.
WE TRY TO STEER TO A DISCUSSION ON WATERSHED, WATER, BASINS, WATER, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, EVEN, EVEN TRASH CLEANUP IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, HAVING A, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO HELP YOU SPONSOR A TRASH CLEANUP IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, HERE'S HOW TO GET FREE SUPPLIES.
HERE'S HOW YOU GET FREE SUPPLIES FROM THE TOWNSHIP.
YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN GET FROM AN HOA LEVEL TO GET THEM TO START ORGANIZING THEIR LITTLE SECTION, THINKING ABOUT IT.
AND THEN WE CAN ORGANIZE THE BIGGER SECTIONS.
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BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS GOING OUTSIDE.AND DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU HAVE A DRAINAGE? GREAT RIGHT OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE? I HAVE A DRAINAGE GRATE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE, CLEAN AND CLEAN.
IT GETS CONSTANTLY FILLED WITH LEAVES AND STICKS AND STUFF.
AND UNFORTUNATELY IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS, HEY, IF YOU HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, I'M AN HOA PERSON.
I WOULD LIKE YOU OR SOMEBODY ELSE TO WALK AROUND.
AND JUST ON YOUR WALK WITH YOUR DOG, PICK UP SOME TRASH, YOU KNOW, OR CLEAN OFF THE BASE, CLEAN OFF THE GRATE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING CRAZY, LIKE REDOING THE BASINS RIGHT AWAY.
BUT IT GETS THEM THINKING OF, WELL, JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, IT ALREADY TELLS YOU, THERE ARE GROUPS OF PEOPLE, RIGHT.
THAT ARE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY HAVE TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THINGS AGAIN, THEY DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE TO.
AND WE CAN, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE MEDIA EXCLUSIONARY TO NON HOA MEMBERS.
IF YOU LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S NOT NON HOA.
LIKE WHERE YOU LIVE, TOM, AND YOU WANT TO COME, YOU CAN CERTAINLY REPRESENT THE, THE ROAD OR HISTORY.
THE ROAD, THE STREET, THE H YOU'RE IN THE HIGHLANDS.
I MEAN, SO YOU'RE IN A, YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AS MUCH AS YOU DEFINE THAT NOWADAYS, BUT YOU'RE NOT IN AN HOA, SOMEONE YOU OR SOMEONE ELSE FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO'S JUST INTERESTED IN DOING THAT CAN COME.
AND IF THEY NEED HELP, THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN SAY, OH, LIKE I COULD PUT, I COULD REACH OUT TO MASTER WATERSHED SEWERS AND SAY, HEY, DOES SOMEBODY NEED HOURS? DOES SOMEBODY WANNA COORDINATE THIS TYPE OF HELP WITH THIS GROUP? BECAUSE THEY NEED VOLUNTEER HOURS.
YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO HELP YOU.
WE'LL, WE'LL BRING YOU TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE THE INTERMEDIARY BETWEEN THE TWO.
WELL, I'M GONNA HOLD, I'M GONNA CUT THIS OFF AND MOVE.
CAUSE WE GOTTA, WE GOT ANOTHER MEETING AT SEVEN COMING IN HERE.
SO WE GOTTA KEEP MOVING ALONG.
SO I THINK THE, THE GRAND OPPORTUNITIES IN THE STORM, WATER MANAGEMENT, I THINK WE'RE BOTH, WE'VE KIND OF COVERED BOTH OF THOSE.
SO YOU'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO THAT OR IS THAT NO, I, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO BE THAT FORMAL YET.
SO YOU, I MEAN, GENERALLY EVERYBODY AGREES THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT IN JANUARY.
[4. Township Events]
SO LET'S MOVE DOWN TO TOWNSHIP EVENTS.UM, TOWNSHIP EVENTS IS JUST GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WE OFFER THAT ARE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD PARTICIPATE IN AS AN EAC OR JUST ENVIRONMENTAL EVENTS THAT WE HAVE THAT JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT WE NEED THEM.
UM, EVERY, THE PAST TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING CLEANUPS FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
SO WE DO ONE A MONTH IN THE SUMMER.
IT RANGES FROM MAY TO, UM, SEPTEMBER AND I TRY TO DO UP DIFFERENT PARK EACH MONTH.
SO I ADVERTISE IT AS A FREE CLEANUP EVENT.
PEOPLE COME, I PROVIDE SUPPLIES, UH, FOR THOSE CLEANUP EVENTS.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU, YOU SAY CLEANUP? WHAT? WE JUST CLEAN UP TRASH, TRASH, TRASH PICKUP.
SO, UM, BASICALLY PROMOTING TO CLEAN UP THE TRASH TO MAKE CLEAN WATERWAYS CUZ EVERYTHING EVENTUALLY GETS TO THE OCEAN.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO.
WE HAVE COMMUNITY DAY COMING UP OCTOBER 15TH, IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO HAVE A TABLE AT THAT, WE COULD ARRANGE THAT FOR YOU TO SET UP A TABLE.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A 3D MODEL OF A WATER, NOT REALLY A WATERSHED, IT'S CALLED AN ENVI SCAPE.
AND WHAT IT IS IS BASICALLY MIMICS STORM WATER DRAINAGE AND IT SHOWS PEOPLE HOW WATER MOVES THROUGH AND HOW THE, UM, WATERSHEDS AND RICES AWAY BUFFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CAN HELP ABSORB THE WATER.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A TABLE WITH THAT OUT, I COULD SHOW YOU HOW TO USE IT.
YOU COULD OR JUST, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE EAC.
THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IF YOU WANT TO JUST LET US KNOW AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SET UP FOR YOU GUYS.
SO THESE, UM, THESE, UH, CLEANUP EVENTS THAT YOU SPOKE OF, DO YOU OBVIOUSLY PUT THEM ON THE WEBSITE? YEP.
I CAME OUT WITH A SCHEDULE FOR THE WHOLE SUMMER AND I POSTED THAT AND THEN WE HAD, AND SO GIVE ME, GIMME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT ONE IS THE LAST ONE YOU HAD OR HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP? WHAT DO, WHAT, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE? SO IT'S VAGUELY.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A LOT OF PEOPLE TO COME OUT.
UM, THAT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE FOR US TO GET PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE.
SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE DAC MIGHT WANNA WORK ON IS GETTING PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC INVOLVED.
UM, I HAD FIVE PEOPLE, SIX, INCLUDING MYSELF, WE CLEANED UP THREE TO FOUR BAGS OF TRASH WITH A BIG GIANT TUB.
WE CLEANED UP AT THE DOG PARK, UM, LONG FOR REYNOLD'S DOG PARK, LONGFORD PARK, UM, DOWN AT THE CANAL.
SO THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE TRASH THERE BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD.
WE'RE STILL FINDING, YOU KNOW, BIGGER, BIGGER ITEMS THAT HAVE FLOATED DOWN.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY THE DOG PARK, SO YOU'RE DOWN, YOU'RE DOWN AT THE RIVERS THOUGH.
YOU'RE DOWN AT, YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY IN THE DOG PARK.
NO, WE WERE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA SURROUNDING OF THE PARK.
SO WE DID DO AROUND THE END OF THE CANAL.
WE DID, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FOREST AREA.
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JUST HONESTLY THERE IS A LOT OF TRASH FROM THE DOG PARK IN GENERAL.UM, YOU KNOW, TOYS THAT GET SHREDDED FROM THE MOWERS, DOG BAGS, JUST TRASH THAT PEOPLE THROW, CUZ IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE ROAD.
UM, EVERYTHING GETS STUCK IN THE FENCE.
SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST TO KEEP THE PARKS CLEAN, TO HELP PROMOTE KEEPING OUR PARKS CLEAN.
UM, SO I TRY TO DEDICATE ONE MONTH TO EACH PARK THAT'S SORT OF PARK, YOU SAID PARK, THAT'S SORT OF LIKE THE, UH, STARTING POINT, BUT YOU TRY TO SPREAD OUT FROM THERE A LITTLE BIT.
SO I USE OUR PARK AND REC PARK.
SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, BLACKROCK PARK.
UM, WE DID ONE AT HES PRESERVE AND WE DID ONE AT THE DOG PARK.
AND THEN WE ALSO PARTNER WITH THE SCA, THE SCOOP CANAL ASSOCIATION AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY TO DO A YEARLY CLEANUP, WHICH WILL BE COMING UP IN THE WINTER, UM, WITH THE CANAL ASSOCIATION DOWN ALONG BLOCK 60 AND THE CANAL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATES YET, BUT WHEN I DO, I WILL SHARE THEM WITH YOU.
UM, AND THEN PERFUME AND WATERSHED DOES THEIR YEARLY CLEANUP IN THE SPRING, WHICH WE USUALLY PARTICIPATE WITH THEM ON THAT AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE CLEANUPS.
I'M TRYING TO CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE BIT FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR YOU WANNA TAKE THAT OVER, UM, I'M HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU GUYS ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
UM, SO REGARDING THE COMMUNITY DAY, I MEAN, IS THIS AN ACTION ITEM? SHOULD WE DECIDE IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TABLE AT, I MEAN YOU ARE FAIRLY NEW, SO IF YOU WANNA WAIT THIS YEAR AND YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT, THAT'S FINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE MOTION, WELL, YEAH, IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT AN ACTION ITEM, YOU CAN.
I MEAN, WE DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THINGS SO FORMAL AS A MOTION FOR THIS AND AMO OTHER THAN MINUTES AND ADURING AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IF, IF YOU WANNA COME TO A CONSENSUS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A TABLE, PLEASE DO.
IF, IF, IF THAT THE CONSENSUS IS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO, I REALIZE IT'S IT'S TIME AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SCHEDULE TO HAVE PEOPLE THERE.
WHAT'S WHAT'S THE DATE AND WHAT ARE THE HOURS IT'S OCTOBER 15TH.
AND I CAN SEND THIS ALL OUT IN AN EMAIL AS WELL.
IT'S OCTOBER 15TH AND IT'S TURNED 12 TO FIVE.
SO WE, IF YOU DON'T COME AS THE EAC, YOU STILL COME AS A COMMUNITY RESIDENT CAUSE IT'S FREE AND IT'S FUN.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF EVENTS AS THE PARK AND REC DEPARTMENT.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU EVER WANNA PARTICIPATE IN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ARRANGE, UH, FOR YOU TO HAVE A TABLE OR FOR YOU TO JUST BE PRESENT.
OR IF YOU WANNA DO SOMETHING ON YOUR OWN, WE CAN HELP YOU DO THAT.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR HELP TO ORGANIZE EVENTS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT IS WITHIN A MONTH.
I MEAN, I I'D BE WILLING TO SPEND A COUPLE HOURS AT A TABLE IF WE CAN ALSO GET YOU SOME ENVIRONMENTAL HANDOUTS IF YOU WANT.
WELL, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE THE PAMPHLETS AND MM-HMM
JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE THERE AND LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THERE IS AN EAC AND YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT WE, WE MIGHT CALL OUT OF THE CITIZENRY AS FAR AS PEOPLE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS.
WELL, I'LL SEND YOU GUYS AN EMAIL AFTER THIS.
WELL, UH, YEAH, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO VOLUNTEER, I KNOW I'M NOT, I'M IN A CAR EVENT THAT WEEKEND I'M GONE, SO I WON AROUND, SO YEAH.
UM, BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT FAIR ENOUGH.
YEAH, HE'S ALREADY, THERE'S GONNA BE THERE ALL DAY.
HOW MANY, UH, PRESENTLY, HOW MANY TABLES ARE THERE GOING TO BE? UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE AT LEAST 50, I THINK SO 50.
WE USUALLY GET A COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE OKAY.
AT THE EVENT, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.
SO IT'S THE BIGGEST EVENT THAT THE TOWN SHOULD HOLDS AS OF RIGHT NOW.
UM, WHAT ARE THE HOURS FOR THE, WHAT ARE THE HOURS FOR TABLES? IT'S 12, UH, 12:00 PM TO 5:00 PM.
SO, BUT THERE'S, UM, FOOD TRUCKS, THERE'S A BEER GARDEN.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A HAY RIDE.
THERE'S AND EVEN IF THE TABLE'S NOT MANNED 24 7.
JUST IF WE HAVE IT OUT WITH THE PAMPHLETS ON IT, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S GOOD TOO, EVEN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE THERE, YOU CAN ONLY DO A COUPLE HOURS.
WELL, I THINK YOU AT LEAST PUT THE TABLE OFF, PUT THE PAMPHLETS OUT AND IF, IF WE CAN MAN, IT, WHATEVER PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE AND WANT TO DONATE THEIR TIME.
I MEAN, PHOENIXVILLE HAD THEIR GREEN EARTH FESTIVAL LAST SATURDAY I WALKED THROUGH AND IT WAS, WAS PACKED, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT AND POTENTIALLY COMING TO AN EVENT THAT'S STRICTLY FOR, WELL, IF THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT TOO, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TRY AND GET INVOLVED WITH THOSE AS WELL.
WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PHOENIXVILLE EMERGENCY MANAGER AND THE PARKS OF DEPARTMENT.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE USUALLY TALK TO THE SURROUNDING TOWNSHIPS ABOUT PARKS AND STUFF.
SO FEEL FREE TO LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING HAPPENING THAT YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE
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IN.AND THIS SORT OF GOES ALONG WITH THE, THE,
[5. EV / Charging Station Seminar]
THE NEXT PORTION WITH THE EV CHARGING STATION SEMINAR.I THINK LAST, WHEN I SENT OUT THE AGENDA THERE, I GET A LOT OF EMAILS FOR SEMINARS.
AND SARAH SAID, IT GETS A LOT.
OUR EXECUTIVE SECRETARY GETS A LOT AND SHE SENDS THEM TO US.
I'M GONNA TRY TO RESEND THOSE TO YOU.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU, THAT INTERESTS YOU, THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO, I REALIZE THIS WAS TODAY, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANNA GO TO, EVEN IF THERE'S A FEE, LET US KNOW THE TOWNSHIP WILL COVER THAT FOR YOU.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET YOU SOME TRAINING, WE CAN GET YOU SOME EDUCATION, AS LONG AS IT'S RELATED TO EAC.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DOING THAT.
I'LL JUST SEND IT OUT WHEN I GET IT.
UM, TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON THE, THE, THE SEMINAR TODAY, IT WAS REALLY GEARED MORE TOWARDS THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE, THE SMALL INFRASTRUCTURE TO HAVING A CHARGING STATION OF, OF HOW TO MAKE A CHARGING STATION, CHARGE YOUR CAR SO MUCH FASTER AND WHAT THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES WERE.
WASN'T REALLY APPLICABLE TO THIS.
WASN'T REALLY APPLICABLE TO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING DOING.
IT WAS INTERESTING FROM A NERD STANDPOINT, BUT OTHERWISE IT WASN'T VERY HELPFUL FROM A EAC STANDPOINT.
SO 10 MINUTE CHARGER, THEY WOULD DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
IT OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE UPPER END OF IT AND IT'S EXPENSIVE AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN THEY'LL BRING IT DOWN THE MORE, THE MORE YOU CAN DO IT.
SO I WONDER IF ANY OF THE PRIVATE COMPANIES LIKE, UH, LASO OR PFIZER OFFER CHARGING STATIONS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES? I, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN AS THE ZONING OFFICER, I'VE BEEN APPROACHED FROM GIANT, FROM A COMPANY LOOKING TO USE A PORTION OF GIANT'S PARKING LOT TO BUILD A CHARGING STATION.
I HAD SOME ISSUES WITH IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW.
TARGET'S LOOKING AT PUTTING SOME IN, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW WAWA'S TRYING TO, YEAH, WAWA'S TRYING TO BRING SOME IN.
EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS ASKING ME, WELL, WHY DON'T WE GET MORE CHARGING STATIONS? WHY DON'T WE GET MORE CHARGING STATIONS? AND I'M HAPPY TO PUT THEM IN THERE IN ACCESSORY USE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'D BE MUCH OF A PROBLEM.
PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH LAND DEVELOPMENT.
MOST OF THE TIME, I JUST DON'T GET VERY MANY CALLS ABOUT IT.
THE ONE PHONE CALL I GOT FROM TARGET, I SAID, SURE, GO AHEAD.
THE ONLY ISSUE IS YOUR SIGNS, BUT THAT WAS MORE OF AN ISSUE FOR THEIR, THE SIGNS THAT WERE THE CUZ.
IT WAS ALSO THE GRAB AND GO AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU PARK AND YOUR GROCERIES GET BROUGHT OUT TO YOU.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN, AN ISSUE.
THE OTHER ONE THAT I GOT WAS IT WAS A COMPANY THAT DOES FREE CHARGING, BUT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE ADVERTISING SIGNS ON THEIR CHARGERS AND WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT IT.
AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ONSITE ADVERTISING.
SO IT WAS IN FRONT OF THE GIANT AND ROYERS FORD UP ON, UM, UP ON, UH, RIDGE PIKE.
THEY WANTED TO ADVERTISE THINGS IN THE AREA, WHOEVER ADVERTISES IN THE AREA.
AND THAT'S FROM OUR ORDINANCE STANDPOINT, A NONO.
SO MAYBE OUR ORDINANCE NEEDS TO CHANGE SOMEWHAT, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO US ANY FARTHER THAN THAT.
SO OTHER THAN THAT COMPANY, OTHER PRIVATE COMPANY, NOT, NOT A BUSINESS LIKE TARGET OR, OR SO LIKE, BUT A COMPANY THAT WANTS TO SET UP A CHARGING STATION FOR A FEE.
NO, I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED THAT QUESTION.
I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED THAT NOBODY'S OUT THERE, NOBODY'S OUT THERE DOING IT YET, DOING THAT YET.
AND, AND ADMITTEDLY, I MEAN, I GUESS FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, I WOULD APPROACH THAT LIKE A, A FILLING STATION, LIKE THE GAS STATION.
UM, AND WHERE THOSE GO ARE SOMEWHAT LIMITED IN THE TOWNSHIP.
BUT I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF THERE'S AVAILABLE SPACE FOR IT.
I'M ASSUMING THAT IF IT GOES INTO A WAWA AND WE HAVE THREE WAWAS IN THE TOWNSHIP, IF IT GOES INTO A TARGET PARKING LOT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT DOING THE OFFSITE ADVERTISING SIGNS AS THE WAY TO PAY FOR THE PAY FOR THE CHARGING, RIGHT.
IT'S AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT IN MY MIND AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT EVEN INSPECTED BY US.
THAT'S INSPECTED BY SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY JUST SEND US A PICTURE OF THE UL STICKER.
SO IT, IT, FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT'D BE FAIRLY EASY TO GET EV CHARGING STATIONS IN THIS TOWNSHIP.
WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN APPROACHED ABOUT IT YET.
AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S FAIRLY TYPICAL AT THIS POINT BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT TYPE OF CAR LIVE, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE LIVING IN THE TOWNSHIP AND I KNOW A FEW THAT THEY LIVE IN THE TOWNSHIP, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CHARGERS.
THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO GO TO TARGET AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE CHARGED THERE.
I MEAN, I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T SEEM TO REMEMBER TO GET THEIR CAR, CHARGE THEIR CARD HOME, AND WHEN THEY GET, SO THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE IT HOME, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THEM FIGURING THINGS OUT STILL.
SO IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL PEOPLE AFTER WE'VE HAD, UH, GAS, GAS CARDS FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, THERE'S STILL PEOPLE RUN OUTTA GAS.
IT'S SO, UM, I LOOK, AS I'VE SAID TO ANYBODY WHO'S ASKED, I'M WILLING I CAN, WE CAN HAVE A, A CHARGING STATION AS SOON AS ANYBODY WANTS IT.
I JUST, I'M WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND YEAH.
SEE, I, I, I, I SEE THAT AS GOING, THAT'S A PRIVATE INDUSTRY, THAT'S AN INDUSTRY.
AND IN THE INDUSTRY, SOMEBODY IN THE INDUSTRY HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE MONEY.
AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT THAT PROFIT MARGIN YET.
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ALSO, I LOOK AT IT AS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TESLA AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, THESE COMPANIES, THE MORE BOUTIQUE COMPANIES THAT HAVE COME IN WITH ELECTRIC CARS, RIVIAN WITH THE TRUCKS AND LOOSEN, AND SOME OF THE NEWER ONES THEY'RE GORGEOUS CARS, BUT THEY'RE REALLY EXPENSIVE.TESLA HAD A NICE THEIR SERIES, ONE OR MODEL ONE OF THEIR MODELS WAS RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE.
NOW THAT YOU'RE GETTING YOUR, EVEN YOUR MERCEDES, YOUR BMW, CHEVY, FORD, NISSAN, ALL OF THOSE CAR COMPANIES, ALL THE BIG CAR COMPANIES ARE COMING IN THERE.
YOU'RE GONNA START TO SEE THESE ELECTRIC CARS SCALE DOWN TO WHERE THEY'RE MORE LIKE A REGULAR AFFORDABLE CAR.
THE BIGGEST DEMANDED FORD RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE ELECTRIC TRUCK.
IT'S OH, I'M SAYING, IS THAT I SEE THAT IN BECOMING AN INDUSTRY THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT TOWNSHIP SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN.
NO, I DO THINK THE TOWNSHIP SHOULD LOOK AT HAVING THEIR OWN CHARGING STATIONS.
AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH, I THINK THE TOWNSHIP SHOULD LOOK AT CHANGING OVER SOME OF THEIR FLEET.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN NEVER CONVINCE PUBLIC WORKS TO GET AWAY FROM GAS, FUEL PLOW TRUCKS.
I JUST DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH POWER FOR THOSE GUYS YET, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
I DO THINK THE JAN SHOULD LOOKING AT DOING CHARGING STATION.
WELL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I I'M TALKING ABOUT MORE ABOUT PROVIDING CHARGING STATIONS FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THE TOWNSHIP SHOULD BE IN THE CHARGING BUSINESS.
NO, MOST TOWNSHIPS, OTHER THAN THEIR OWN FLEET.
IF THEY HAVE A FLEET, THEY WANNA BE IN THE MOST TOWNSHIPS THAT ARE DOING IT ARE DOING IT AS A CATALYST TO GET EVERYBODY EDUCATED ABOUT THE PHOENIX PHOENIXVILLE HAS THEM IN THEIR PARKING LOTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY, I DON'T KNOW.
THEY STILL ARE EITHER WONDERED ABOUT THAT.
BUT, BUT, BUT YEAH, I THINK THE PRIVATE ENTERPRISE, LIKE A TARGET FOR INSTANCE, COULD INSTALL THEIR OWN POWER STATION.
AND THEN WHEN YOU FINISH SHOPPING, YOU CHECK OUT AND THEY SAY, AND HERE'S YOUR BILL FOR YEAH.
YOU WERE ON THE CHARGE FOR A HALF HOUR.
AND IF YOU BUY A HUNDRED DOLLARS WORTH OF, UH, YEAH.
THAT, WHATEVER YOU GET, THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE A BUSINESS THAT, YEAH.
WELL, I GUESS TO SORT OF SUMMARIZE THAT, IF YOU SEE ANY SEMINARS OUT THERE THAT YOU GET AN EMAIL FOR, JUST WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE GILLY, AND YOU SEE A SEMINAR THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO, THAT I HAVEN'T SENT OUT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
WE'RE HAPPY TO GET THOSE, GET YOU INVOLVED IN THOSE THINGS AND SEND 'EM TO ME AND I'LL SEND 'EM TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
OR IF YOU, I DON'T HIDE ANYBODY'S EMAIL ADDRESS.
YOU CAN JUST PUT IT ALL OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY.
SO, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT NOVEMBER THAT'S WHEN YOU WANNA HAVE THE NEXT ONE, RIGHT? YEP.
I THINK WE'LL WE WANNA DO THAT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE SECOND.
WELL, NO, IT WOULD BE THE 16TH, I THINK.
YOU WANT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
THE SECOND MEETING WOULD BE THE 16TH.
SO, SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE PLANNING, IF WE HAVE A, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION, PROBABLY GONNA HAVE IT BECAUSE PARKHOUSE WANTS TO BE ON THE AGENDA ON THE 16TH.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIX O'CLOCK MEETING HERE.
UH, I THINK WE'LL KEEP IT RELATIVELY BRIEF JUST BECAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY GET A BIG CROWD COMING IN A LITTLE BIT EARLY.
O REALLY YOU THINK, UM,
IS THAT ALL RIGHT? SOUNDS GOOD.
SO NOVEMBER 16TH, SIX, 6:00 PM.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE WILL HAVE TO CUZ I'M SURE IT'S GONNA FILL UP.
UH, YES, LIKE 6 30, 6 45, FOR SURE.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN IS WHAT, OKAY.
YOU GOT A MOTION? DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.