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I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE UPPER PROVIDENCE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
PLEASE RISE AS YOU'RE ABLE TO JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THIS IS THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
[CEREMONIES]
TONIGHT, WE HAVE SOME SWEARING INS TO DO.WE WILL BE SWEARING IN CHRIS VICKERY AS DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALL AND SWEARING IN FIVE FULL TIME.
FIREFIGHTER EMT, ROBERT CORRINE, TYLER MILLS, JOSHUA RUGER, KYLE
IF YOU REPEAT AFTER ME, I, CHRIS PICKINGS, I, CHRIS PICKINGS HAVE BEEN DULY HAVING BEEN DULY APPOINTED AS DEPUTY FIRE.
MARSHALL HAS BEEN DULY APPOINTED AS DEPUTY FIRE MARSHALL FOR THE TOWNSHIP OF UPPER PROVIDENCE, PENNSYLVANIA FOR THE TOWNSHIP OF UPPER PROVIDENCE, PENNSYLVANIA DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT OBEY AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES THAT I WILL SOLEMNLY SWEAR.
I AM SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT OBEY AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION IN UNITED STATES.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA AND THE ORDINANCES OF OUR PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND THE ORDINANCES OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP THAT I WILL PERFORM AND DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE.
I WILL PERFORM AND DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE WITH FIDELITY, WITH FIDELITY.
AND I WILL REPRESENT MYSELF IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE MANNER AT ALL TIMES.
AND I WILL REPRESENT MYSELF IN THIS COMMUNITY IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE MANNER AT ALL TIMES.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T PAY ON BADGES.
SHE'S JUST HAPPY I'M WEARING A DARK COLOR.
WE HAVE LOTS OF IMTS IF THERE'S ANY BLOOD RIGHT NOW.
I'LL CALL UPS FIREFIGHTERS, STEVEN HUGGIE, KYLE SAVITZ, JOSHUA RUGER, TYLER MILES AND ROBERT KERRYN.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ALL TOGETHER.
SO I'M GOING TO START OUT AND I'LL POINT TO EACH OF YOU WHEN IT'S TIME TO SAY YOUR NAME AND THEN WE'LL DO THE REST OF IT IN UNISON, IF THAT'S OKAY.
I, ROBERT FORD, JOSH BERGER, STEVEN, YOU GET A MILD, I HAVEN'T BEEN DULY APPOINTED A FIREFIGHTER EMT
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FOR THE TOWNSHIP OF UPPER PROVIDENCE, PENNSYLVANIA, PROVIDENCE, PENNSYLVANIA.DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT OBEY AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION AND THE ORDINANCES OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP THAT I WILL PERFORM AND DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF MY OFFICE, MY OFFICE WITH FIDELITY.
AND THEN I WILL REPRESENT MYSELF AND THIS COMMUNITY IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE MANNER AT ALL TIMES.
OKAY, LADIES, YOU CAN PIN THE BADGES ON THESE FIREFIGHTERS.
WELL, I LEFT THE ROOM CLEAR AND THEN WE'LL GET GOING HERE GUYS.
NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF ANYONE THOUGHT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
[MOTION TO APPROVE BOARD AGENDA]
QUICK, MR. CHARLENE, WE STILL NEED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.UH, EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE AGENDA.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
ALL RIGHT.NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE THE BOARD, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR STREET ADDRESS, SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE AND PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.
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OKAY.I LIVED AT 7 0 2 4 PROVIDENCE ROAD IN PHOENIXVILLE.
MY PARENTS' HOUSE IS 7 0 8 PER PROVIDENCE ROAD.
DINNER'S OLD STORE AND MY PARENTS' OLD STORE.
I STARTED, MY HOUSE WAS NO LONGER THERE.
WE WENT THROUGH THIS LAST MONTH AND, UM, A LOT OF QUESTIONS WENT UNANSWERED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SAID, SO YOU CHARGED EVERYONE THAT LOST THEIR HOUSES ON WALNUT STREET, MONTCLAIR, PORT PROVIDENCE, PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE YEAR CRACKS.
PROPERTY TAXES ON WHAT? CAUSE EVERYONE'S PROPERTY WAS DESTROYED.
UH, WE, WE CHARGED PROPERTY FAXES TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IN THE TOWNSHIP OF YOU OWN THE PROPERTY.
SO THEN THAT PROPERTY TAX MONEY GOES BACK INTO, I WOULD ASSUME THE TOWNSHIP TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IN THE LAST MEETING YOU ACTUALLY SAID THAT THE GAUGES WERE FAULTY AND AFTER IDA HAPPENED, THEN YOU WENT BACK AND MADE SURE THEY WERE OKAY.
THE GAUGES WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE OVERWHELMED THAT NIGHT.
THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE HOMES AND YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE SWEEPING UNDER THE RUG, LIKE NOTHING HAPPENS.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN AFTER YOU WERE SO JUST BLATANTLY SAID WE HAVE NO PROBLEM SO LONG.
YOU GUYS SELL TO FEMA AND DEMOING ALL YOUR HOUSES.
I KNEW SAID THAT QUITE SNUGLY.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR IDEA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH ALL OF THAT AREA? JUST LET IT NOT BE BUILT ON THAT'S THE IDEA.
MA'AM ANY OTHER IDEAS? NO, NO IDEAS AT ALL.
MAY MR. CHARLENE, UM, WITH ANY GRANT FROM FEMA, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO NOT BUILD ON IT.
RIGHT? WE DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE.
WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD ON IT.
I'M AWARE WE'RE GOING TO RETURN IT TO A NATURAL FLOODPLAIN.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE, CONSIDERED LIKE A NASH, A STATE PARK OR ANYTHING BECAUSE OF ALL THE BASICS YOU HAVE BICYCLISTS.
IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN DEVELOP IT AS A PARK AND KEEP IT OPEN SPACE UNDER FEMA'S GUIDELINES, WE WILL DO THAT.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE A NATIONAL OR A STATE PARK, YOU UNDERSTAND PARK, IT WILL BE TOWNSHIP PROPERTY AND THAT'S FUNDED BY YOU'LL GET MONEY FROM GOVERNMENT WELFARE.
WHOEVER'S GOVERNOR THAT COMES FROM THE STATE COMES DOWN TO YOU.
IT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IT COMES THROUGH PIMA, WHICH IS THE STATE AGENCY.
I'LL ASK YOU, WHAT DID YOU LIVE IN? W WHERE WERE YOU? WHERE WERE YOU ON SEPTEMBER 1ST? IT WAS, I TRIED TO DO THAT VERY NICELY LAST MONTH.
AND I WAS SUPPOSED TO CONDESCENDING BY THIS GENTLEMAN AND EVERYONE BLEW IT ALL.
THE ONLY PERSON WHO LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS ANY KIND OF CONCERN WAS THE YOUNG LADY THAT SAT AT THAT CHAIR.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE US TO DO? I WOULD LIKE THE TOWNSHIP TO STEP UP FOR PEOPLE THAT PAY THEIR TAXES AND PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ENGAGES.
I'M SORRY, WHAT DOES STEP UP MEAN? WHAT ACTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY? OH, UM, LIKE YOU COULD STEP UP AND MAYBE EXPLAIN THE $2.3 MILLION THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED FROM MAY 12TH TO JUNE 14TH.
AND THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPREAD TO HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY TAXPAYING, HARDWORKING CITIZENS THAT GOT SOMETHING DESTROYED, EVERYTHING THEY LOST GIVES ME MA'AM I BELIEVE THAT MONEY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE BILL LIST.
THOSE ARE THE BILLS THAT THE TOWNSHIP POSE TO OUR CONTRACTORS.
BUT YOU'RE, I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO SEE ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, I KNOW MR. JAEGER, I KNOW THAT HE IS NEWEST AND I KNOW, WELL, I I'M GOING TO BE, I'M GOING TO BE, YOU'VE HAD MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, SO I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO YOU NOW.
THAT WAS A NATURAL EVENT AND WE DO NOT CONTROL THE RAINFALL.
AND AS I TOLD YOU, LAST MONTH, WE HAD ABOUT SEVEN TO EIGHT INCHES OF RAIN IN AUGUST OF THAT YEAR.
AND THEN WE HAD 12 INCHES OF RAIN AT, AT A, AT A MINIMUM OVER
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12 HOURS.AND THAT, AND THAT AMOUNT OF RAIN WILL CAUSE FLOODING UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.
IT ACTUALLY WAS THE HIGHEST FLOODS.
SINCE THAT AREA'S PROBABLY BEEN OCCUPIED, UH, BACK IN THE 1970S, HURRICANE AGNES CAME THROUGH THIS FLOOD CREST AT THREE FEET HIGHER THAN AGNES.
THAT IT'S WHAT IS CALLED A 500 YEAR FLOOD.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE NUMBERS MEAN ANYTHING ANYMORE, BUT THAT'S HOW IT WAS CATEGORIZED CATEGORIZED.
AND I BELIEVE THAT AS, AS WE GET INCREASED RAINFALL BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, IT'S ONLY GOING TO BECOME MORE DANGEROUS TO LIVE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AREA OF MONTCLAIR AND POOR PROVENANCE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY FEMA IS SO ANXIOUS TO BUY OUT EVERYONE DOWN THERE AND GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE SAFELY.
AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE BUILT BEHIND.
A LOT OF PEOPLE IMPORT THAT SAID THE WATER WAS COMING FROM BEHIND THE HOUSES TOO, BECAUSE OF THE BIG WAREHOUSE AND STUFF THAT YOU GUYS JUST PUT UP.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CIRCUMSTANCES OTHER THAN THE RAINFALL ITSELF.
I MEAN, THERE ARE HYDROLOGY STUDIES IN EVERY TIME WE PUT IT DOWN, PERVIOUS PAVEMENT THAT CAUSES MORE RUNOFF, BUT WE DO HYDROLOGY STUDIES ON EVERY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT NOW.
AND WE TRY TO NEUTRALIZE THE EFFECT OF THAT AS BEST WE CAN, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
FOR MANY, MANY DECADES, THINGS WERE DEVELOPED AND THOSE KIND OF STUDIES WEREN'T DONE.
I'M SURE THAT WHEN THEY BUILT THE HIGHWAY OUT HERE FOR 22, NO ONE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHERE ALL THE ADDITIONAL RUNOFF WAS GOING TO GO.
SO THE SCHUYLKILL RIVER IS THE BOTTOM OF THE BASIN, AND THAT IS WHERE ALL THE WATER WILL EVENTUALLY GO.
KRISTEN, YOU KNOW, IF I MIGHT CALL ON SOMEBODY ELSE TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE TOWNSHIP IS DOING ARE FAR MARSHALL.
UM, UM, I MEAN I FAR FAR OUR CHIEF WOULD, UH, MIKE, IF YOU WOULD, UH, EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT, WHAT YOU'VE BEEN, WHAT THE TOWNSHIP HAS BEEN DOING SINCE THE FLOOD.
SO SINCE THE FLOOD, THE, THE FLOOD GAUGES WE'RE OVERWHELMED AT THE TIME, WE'VE, RE-ENGINEERED HOW THEY WERE AND WE'VE REMOUNTED THEM.
WE HAD A COMPANY COME IN THAT THEY REPLACED ON BOTH THE ROUTE 29 BRIDGE AND THE ARCOLA ROAD BRIDGE ON BOTH THE PERKIOMEN AND THE SCHOOL.
BOTH OF THEM WERE WORKING QUITE WELL.
UM, THEY, RIGHT NOW, THEY READ AT SEA LEVEL AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF READING THEM, UH, CHANGING OUT THE FEET, UH, WHICH WILL MAKE IT ACTUALLY EASIER TO READ.
IF YOU GO ONTO THE WEBSITE, IT SHOWS NOT ONLY OUR SITES, BUT ALSO SHOWS, UH, TWO, TWO ADDITIONAL GAUGES THAT ARE ON THE SCHOOL AND TWO ADDITIONAL GAUGES THAT ARE ON THE PERKIOMEN.
SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA IF YOU'RE LOOKING UP RIVER WHERE THE, WHERE THE WATER LEVELS ARE GOING.
UM, WE'VE ALSO DEVELOPED, UH, THROUGH THE READY MAKO SYSTEM.
WE PUT OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO ALL, REALLY ANYBODY IN THE UPPER PROVIDENCE, BUT IT'S JUST SPECIFICALLY TO THE POOR PROVIDENCE IN MONTCLAIR AREA.
THERE'S A SECTION IN THERE THAT YOU CAN REGISTER, UH, THAT WE WILL THEN GIVE YOU NOTIFICATION THROUGH PHONE OR EMAIL OR TEXT IF THE FLOODS, UH, THE WATER'S COMING UP AND IT'S GOING TO BE FLOODING.
SO WE'LL GIVE YOU THAT NOTIFICATION, THAT THAT DISASTER IS OCCURRING.
AS WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE DIFFERENT SOURCES THAT WE GET, THAT WE ARE, WE GET THAT INFORMATION FROM, UH, THERE'S ONLY BEEN 27 PEOPLE IN THE MONTCLAIR POOR PREVALENCE AREA THAT HAVE REGISTERED ON READY MONACO.
BUT WE WENT TO EVERY SINGLE HOUSE DOWN THERE, GAVE THEM PAPERS.
WHEN WE DID THE SMOKE ALARM BLITZ, WE WERE DOWN THERE WITH THAT.
UH, IN ADDITION, WE'VE, UH, DEVELOPED A PHONE LIST FOR JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY THAT'S DOWN THERE.
SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL AND TELL PEOPLE THAT IT'S STARTING TO FLOOD.
DO THEY NEED HELP? DO THEY WANT TO BE RESCUED THAT HE NEEDED TO GET OUT OF THERE? SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO HELP.
UH, WE CAN'T MITIGATE THE FLOOD, BUT TO, TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN HELP THE RESIDENTS DOWN THERE AT RECOGNIZE THAT THE FLOODING IS GOING TO OCCUR AND GIVE THEM THE CHOICES AND THE OPTIONS THAT IT'S TIME TO LEAVE OR A TIME TO EVACUATE.
HONESTLY, DURING IDA, WE DID THAT, UH, SEVERAL TIMES, UH, WE WENT THROUGH AND ASKED PEOPLE TO EVACUATE, UM, FOR THE HOUSES THAT WE COULD GET TO.
AND THERE WAS RESIDENTS THAT STAYED AND THERE WAS RESIDENTS THAT STAYED WHEN WE WENT BACK AGAIN.
AND THEN FINALLY ON THE THIRD TIME WE HAD WENT BACK AND ACTUALLY TOOK THEM OUT BY BOAT.
THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT, THAT HE DID THE WARNING ORIGINALLY.
AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT, UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH.
QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S OVERWHELMING.
IT WASN'T JUST US, THE ENTIRE, UH, SOUTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA, THE WHOLE, WHAT YOUR AREA WAS BEING INUNDATED WITH FLOODING.
SO WE WERE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD, BUT OUR BOATS CAME FROM WARETOWN AND POTTSTOWN BECAUSE EVERYBODY HERE WAS ALREADY TAXED.
SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN THE, WHEN THE RIVERS ARE GOING TO FLOOD, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO GET THE WORD OUT.
AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THE HOUSES TO, TO, TO, TO HEAT OUR WARNINGS AND TO LEAVE.
WE CAN'T STOP THE WATER, BUT WE CAN DO OUR BEST TO TRY AND GET THE PEOPLE OUT OF IT.
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THAT NIGHT IN THE PAST, NOW WE, AGAIN, WE'RE WAY, WAY, WAY PAST THE THREE MINUTES AND THE GENERAL FORMAT THAT SHE CAN OFFER COMMENTS FOR THREE MINUTES.NOW IT'S TURNED INTO AN ACQUISITION OF THE GREAT, THANK YOU, MIKE.
I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THERE WAS NO LOSS OF LIFE THAT EVENING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON.
WHY DON'T YOU COME FORWARD AND MAKE COMMENTS, SIR? ALL RIGHT.
THERE WERE, UH, NO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS HELD SINCE OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING.
[APPROVAL OF BILL LIST]
I ASSUME EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE BILL LIST AND THE REPORTS THAT, UH, MR. LIVERGOOD PUT OUT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE BILL LIST IN THE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION, 127,500 $7,500 AND 74 CENTS.
ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FOR THE PERIOD.
JUNE 15TH, 2022 THROUGH JULY 8TH, 2022 IN THE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION, $127,500 AND 74 CENTS.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ALL RIGHT.AND WE HAD A SET OF MINUTES IN OUR PACKET TO APPROVE FOR THE LAST REGULAR MEETING.
SO EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD'S JUNE 20TH, 2022 MEETING.
AND I'LL HAVE TO SUSTAIN ON THIS VOTE BECAUSE I WAS NOT HERE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FOR OUR JUNE 20TH, 2022, REGULAR MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, AYE, ALL THOSE ABSTAINING.
AND IT'S, I WAS NOT HERE EITHER, BUT I DID READ THROUGH THEM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR YOUR ALL RIGHT.
AND UH, NOW IT WOULD BE THE TIME FOR PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEARING SAY EVERYTHING.
[OLD BUSINESS ]
ALL RIGHT.UH, FIRST ITEM CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 28, GRANTING PRELIMINARY LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL TO FOLEY SLASH TOLL BROTHERS AT 3 0 1 WRITTEN HOUSE ROAD.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY ALLISON'S ARO AND BEHALF OF TOLL BROTHERS THIS EVENING, WE'RE HERE REGARDING THE FULLY TRACKED, WHICH IS ON BOTH SIDES OF RITTENHOUSE ROAD.
UM, I KNOW WE DO HAVE ONE NEW SUPERVISORS SINCE I WAS LAST HERE.
UM, THIS PROJECT PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED TENTATIVE SKETCH PLAN APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD IN NOVEMBER OF 2021.
UM, THE PROPOSAL IS, UM, FOR A CLUSTER OPTION, SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED DWELLINGS CONSISTING OF 54, UH, LOTS, UH, THERE ARE THREE ACCESS POINTS TO WRITTEN HOUSE ROAD.
UM, THE, ON THE NORTH, WHAT I'LL CALL THE NORTH SIDE OF RITTENHOUSE ROAD, ALTHOUGH IT CURVES, THERE ARE 16 LOTS ON THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY CLOSEST TO VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.
THERE ARE 15 LOTS ON THE, UH, SECOND ACCESS POINT AND SEE THERE, WHICH FORMS AN INTERSECTION WITH RITTENHOUSE ROAD.
AND THERE ARE 23 LOTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RITTENHOUSE ROAD.
UM, WE HAD, AFTER WE HAD RECEIVED TENTATIVE SKETCH PLAN APPROVAL, WE HAD FILED OUR PRELIMINARY LAND DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, WE HAVE REVIEWED, UH, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH CONSULTANT REVIEWS.
UM, AND WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TO YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION WHO MADE A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL ON JUNE 1ST, 2022.
UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE WORTH POINTING OUT TO THE BOARD.
UH, ONE OF WHICH IS NOT SHOWN ON THE PLAN, BUT THE REST OF WHICH ARE, UM, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN HEARING MORE ABOUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND THE SIDEWALK, UM, SYSTEM THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT.
I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, WIDEN RITTENHOUSE ROAD, NOT ON THE FRONTAGE OF THE SITE, BUT CLOSER TO, AS WE GO DOWN, UH, TOWARDS SOUTH TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD AT THAT INTERSECTION,
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IT WOULD BE WIDENED TO ADD A 275 FOOT RIGHT TURN LANE.UM, BUT IT MAY MAKE SENSE FOR ME TO GET THE POINTER AND THEN I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH BEFORE I DO THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I KNOW LAURIE IN PARTICULAR IS HEARING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE ARE YOU GOOD? OKAY.
SO BEFORE I, BEFORE I GO THROUGH SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS, THIS IS OUR CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE WIDENING MY WRITTEN HOUSE ROAD.
IT WOULD ADD A RIGHT TURN LANE AT THE INTERSECTION WITH SOUTH TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.
UM, THE REST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE ON OUR PRODUCT.
UM, SO GOING BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE 16 DWELLING UNITS UP HERE, 15 ON THE SIDE, 23 ON THE SOUTH SIDE, I'M STARTING AT VALLEY VIEW DRIVE OUT OF THE CUL-DE-SAC FALL.
THIS YEAR, THERE IS A CONNECTION THAT GOES TO VALLEY VIEW DRIVE THERE'S EXISTING, UH, THERE'S EXISTING WALKING OPTIONS ON VALLEY VIEW DRIVE.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TIE IN THE TRAIL ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF RITTENHOUSE ROAD, UM, THAT WOULD COME DOWN ACROSS OUR SITE.
UM, IF EVERYONE RECALLS THAT WHEN WE WERE HERE AT TENTATIVE SKETCH PLAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION.
AND WE HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE MADE A CONNECTION ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE SITE TO TIE THESE TWO PORTIONS OF THE CUL-DE-SAC TOGETHER.
SO WE ARE PROPOSING A TRAIL THAT RUNS ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE SITE.
IT GOES, AND IT WILL CONNECT TO THE SECOND CUL-DE-SAC BALL.
UH, AT THAT LOCATION, THERE ARE SIDEWALKS SHOWN CURRENTLY AT ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.
UM, THAT SIDEWALK WOULD THEN CONNECT BACK TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH IS ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE TOWNSHIP AND A TOW WOULD BE DOING ADDITIONAL TRAIL CONNECTIONS IN THAT SITE.
UM, HESS ROAD IS SORT OF OVER HERE.
UM, ESSENTIALLY WB IS DOING A PROJECT AND THE IDEA IS THAT THE TOLL BROTHER TRAIL SYSTEM WILL CONNECT INTO WHAT, UM, WB WOULD BE BUILDING ON THAT, ON THAT SIDE.
UM, AND THEN COMING BACK DOWN TO THE MAIN INTERSECTION WITH WRITTEN HOUSE ROAD AND, UH, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THE TRAIL WOULD ALSO LOOP AROUND HERE AND CREATE AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTION THROUGH THE SITE AND UP TO THE NEW TRAILS WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP OPEN SPACE.
UM, AT THE MAIN INTERSECTION, THERE IS A PROPOSED WITHOUT A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLAND, A PROPOSED CROSSWALK THAT WOULD GO ACROSS RITTENHOUSE ROAD AND THERE WOULD ALSO BE A RAPID FLASHING BEACON PROPOSED AT THIS LOCATION TO WARN MOTORISTS THAT THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION HERE.
UM, THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSING THE SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE AND STREET HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS AN UNLOADED PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS ALSO CONSTRAINED, WHICH IS WHY THERE IS A SINGLE ACCESS FOR POSTS ON THE SIDE.
UM, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL TRAIL CONNECTIONS WITHIN, AGAIN, THIS IS A PIECE OF TOWNSHIP OPEN SPACE, UM, TO CONNECT WITH THE, UH, THAT WOULD CONNECT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOUTH LEWIS ROAD.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE GOT IN THERE, A FEW LETTERS IS THAT WHEN WE DO OUR PLAN REVISION, THAT WE MAKE SURE WE SHOW, UM, THAT FULL BUILD OUT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOUTHWEST ROAD, WHICH IS WHAT IS INTENDED.
UH, THIS ALSO WOULD SERVE AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS FOR THIS SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO SOUTH LEWIS ROAD, IT WOULD CONNECT UP WITH THIS CUL-DE-SAC BULB AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, THIS PLAN SHOWS SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE OF THE INTERNAL STREETS DOWN HERE, THE SIDEWALK WOULD, THERE'S ONLY A LITTLE PIECE OF OUR FRONTAGE ON THIS SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION, BUT THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE BUILT THERE TO THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING TRAIL ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
SO NO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED THERE OTHER THAN MAKING SURE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, CONNECTION WORKS, BUT, UH, THIS TRAIL EXISTS IN THIS AREA TODAY.
UM, SO WE, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE A FULL CIRCULATION AND NETWORK THROUGHOUT THE SITE, AND THEN ALSO TO CONNECT TO THE TWO TOWNSHIP PIECES AND BUILD ADDITIONAL TRAILS AS WELL.
WHAT IS, HOW IS ONE GOING TO GET ACROSS RITTENHOUSE ROAD FROM ONE PIECE TO THE SURE.
SO RIGHT AT, RIGHT AT THIS LOCATION, THERE IS A MID-BLOCK CROSSING THAT IS SHOWN AND THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN ISLANDS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE THERE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY STOP IN THE MIDDLE FOR SAFETY, IF YOU NEED TO, UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE A RAPID FLASHING BEACON.
SO IT WON'T JUST BE, YOU KNOW, YOUR CLEAR RUNS.
SO IT'LL, IT'LL FLASH AND IT'LL WARN MOTORISTS THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOMEBODY THERE AND THEY, THEY DO WANT TO APPROACH AND CROSS.
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YES, EXACTLY.SO THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT'S PROPOSED AND WE DO HAVE MORE OF A, HAD THAT OTHER SORT OF AERIAL PLAN THAT SHOWED THE WIDENING.
WE DO HAVE AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THAT AS WELL, SUPER IMPOSED ON THE AERIALS AS WELL.
SO IN HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PEDESTRIAN ISLAND.
THIS IS OUR TRAFFIC PLANNING AND DESIGN IS, IS DOING OUR ART TRAFFIC DESIGN.
AND THIS WILL BE FURTHER ENGINEERED AND UPDATED, BUT THIS GIVES YOU THE CONCEPT.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO I HAVE NO ISSUE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE WE HAVE SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE COMING OUT THAT LONG SHOOT.
THERE IS THERE'S, THERE'S NO HOMES THERE AND THERE NEVER WILL BE BECAUSE OF THE STEEP SLOPE, RIGHT? BUT IN FRONT OF ALL THE HOMES, I WANT SIDEWALK BILL IN FRONT OF EACH HOME.
AND, UH, AND FOR THE WIDTH OF THEIR ENTIRE LOT, WE HAVE PLACES IN THE TOWNSHIP THAT WERE DEVELOPED DECADES AND DECADES AGO BEFORE WE HAD AN ORDINANCE.
AND IF YOU SAW THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSIONS REVIEW, THEY WERE NOT BIG FANS OF SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE.
SO THEY TOOK FIVE PARAGRAPHS TO EXPLAIN THAT TO BOTH OF US.
THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO, TO GIVE YOU PRELIMINARY APPROVAL TONIGHT.
OTHER THAN THAT, I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH THE PLAN.
I'M HAPPY WITH THE TRAIL WORK AND TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WE DO NEED SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF EACH HOME.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
WELL, OTHER THAN SORRY, TOM, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
MY OTHER REASON WHY I WAS REALLY SQUINTING AT THIS THING IS THAT, UM, AND I'VE TALKED TO JEFF ABOUT THIS MORE THAN ONCE IS THAT THE INTERSECTION OF TOWNSHIP LINE RUN AND RITTENHOUSE ROAD IS ABOUT 10 FEET TOO HIGH, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT UNDER YOUR PURVIEW.
SO I, I AGREE WITH BILL'S COMMENTS ON THE SIDEWALKS.
THESE ARE SOMEWHAT SECLUDED DEVELOPMENTS.
I LIVE IN ONE, THAT'S SIMILAR TO THAT AND PEOPLE WANT TO WALK ALL THE TIME AND WANT TO WALK.
SO I'M NOT CAUSE I'M NEW, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS.
YOU SAY THAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE THING, BUT, AND MAYBE JOE, THIS IS WHERE I HAVE A NOW LISTENING TO ME WELL, T TO SORT OF ANSWER THE QUESTION, WE HAD REQUESTED A WAIVER FROM PROVIDING SIDEWALKS IN THOSE AREAS.
SO ESSENTIALLY MR. SILING HAD SAID THAT HE, HE WOULD LIKE US TO ESSENTIALLY WITHDRAW THAT PORTION OF THE WAIVER REQUEST OR THAT THE BOARD WOULD NOT NECESSARILY GRANT THAT PART OF THE WAIVER REQUESTS.
AND WE ARE FINE WITH INSTALLING THOSE SIDEWALKS.
SO BY HER SAYING, SHE'S FINE WITH IT.
AND BY VOTING ON PRELIMINARY TONIGHT, WE'RE VOTING ON IT WITH THAT ASSUMPTION THAT WE'LL HAVE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.
SO I GOT YOU TRUST, BUT VERIFY, WELL, HE'S GOT IT ALL.
WE GOT IT LATE AND CAME IN VERY LATE TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE IT ALL IN BLACK AND WHITE TOO HERE.
AND THAT WAIVER IS NOT PART OF THE RESOLUTION.
SO ALISON AND I MIGHT NEED TO CLEAN UP THE RESOLUTION ONE MORE TIME TOMORROW MORNING.
WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW THE VOTE WOULD EXACTLY GO.
AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL BE PRECISE ABOUT WHERE YOU DO WANT AND THE SIDEWALKS AND THAT YOU DON'T REQUIRE IT FOR THE AREA WHERE IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES.
SO WE'LL, IT'S GOING TO LOOK ABOUT LIKE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW, BUT MAYBE WITH ONE MORE SENTENCE IN IT.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE REASON I'M, I'M, I'M WILLING TO GIVE ON THAT IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HOMES ARE NEVER GOING TO BE IN THAT SPACE.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT CONCERNED.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO TRY TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN 30 YEARS AFTER NEIGHBORHOODS BUILT, FORGOT ABOUT IT.
I'LL UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 28.
BRANDING PRELIMINARY LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL TO THE FOLEY TOLL BROTHERS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 3 0 1 RITTENHOUSE ROAD.
UH, SECOND CONSIDERING ADOPTION RESOLUTION, 2022 DASH 28.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION, 2022 DASH 28.
GREENING PRELIMINARY LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL PORTFOLIO SLASH TOLL BROTHERS AT THE PROPERTY AT 3 0 1 WRITTEN HOUSE ROAD.
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ALRIGHT.[NEW BUSINESS]
ALL RIGHT.OUR NEXT ITEM HERE IS RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 29.
I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS IS A MINOR SUBDIVISION OF A TWO ACRE LOT.
CURRENTLY THERE'S A HOME ON THAT LOT AND THEY WERE TRYING TO DIVIDE OUT A SECOND, UH, A SECOND LOT THERE.
SO, WHICH THEY'RE ENTITLED TO DO.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT GOOD EVENING? MY NAME IS CHRISTIANE.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT AND THE OWNERS ARE HERE AS WELL.
UH, AS YOU SAID, THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY AND ALSO THE ZONING HEARING BOARD.
UH, THE REVIEW LETTERS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE ENGINEER AND TOWNSHIP OR TRAFFIC ENGINEER ARE BOTH WILL COMPLY LETTERS.
SINCE I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW IF YOU'D LIKE IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
THEY'RE FULLY COMPLIANT OR STRAIGHT FORWARD.
UM, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THIS.
I MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 29, GRANTING PRELIMINARY AND FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR A MINOR SUBDIVISION AT TWO 10 MINGO ROAD.
ALICE, SECOND, THE MOTION TO CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 29, GRANTING PRELIMINARY AND FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR TWO 10 MINGO ROADS, MINOR SUBDIVISION.
THEY'VE SAID THE WHOLE THING TWICE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 29.
AND UH, NOW WE WANT TO CONSIDER CHANGES TO OUR ACCOUNTS SHIP CODE, CHAPTER 71, HER FOOD TO IMPROVE POLICE PATROL PARAMETERS.
AND, UH, UM, BEFORE YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT, OR FOR EXAMPLE, YEAH, HAPPY TO I WAS, UM, I WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE CURFEW ORDINANCE.
AND ALTHOUGH IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A TECHNICALITY, IT'S THE KIND OF TECHNICALITY SOMEONE COULD SEIZE UPON WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ENFORCE THE CURFEW.
THE TECHNICALITY IS THAT IT STATES THAT PEOPLE CAN NOT BE OUT.
MINORS CAN NOT BE OUT PAST 10 O'CLOCK ON PUBLIC STREETS IN PUBLIC WAYS.
AND WHERE THAT PRESENTS A PROBLEM IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ROADS AND PROVIDENCE TOWN CENTERS AND EXAMPLE, ALTHOUGH NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE OF ROADS THAT ARE NOT DEDICATED TO THE TOWNSHIP AND THEREFORE NOT PUBLIC, UH, AND, BUT WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT CONGREGATE AND BE VIOLATING CURFEW.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OWNED INTERNAL ROADS.
SO THE MODIFICATION OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF PUBLIC PLACE PLACES YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE, TO INCLUDE PRIVATE ROADS WHEN THEY ARE GENERALLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR USE.
SO NOT A TRUE PRIVATE ROAD IN SOMEONE'S ESTATE, BUT A ROAD LIKE IN PROVIDENCE TOWN CENTER, UM, IS TO NOW TO BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC PLACE FOR PURPOSES OF CURFEW.
UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, I THINK YOU MADE IT CLEAR, BUT WHEN WE SAY ROADWAY, A PRIVATE ROADWAY, THAT'S GENERALLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
SO, UH, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO A PRIVATE PROPERTY SIGN.
NO, IT MEANS IF YOU, IF YOU, IF YOU MAKE YOURSELF GENERALLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, ANY SHOPPING CENTER, ANY TYPE OF STORE WITH INTERNAL PARKING LOTS.
AND I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS, AND IF SOMEONE WERE TO BE CHARGED UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, THE COURT WOULD STILL HAVE TO INTERPRET THE PLACE THAT THEY WERE TO MEET THAT DEFINITION.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT'S MY KIDS IN MY DRIVEWAY, THAT'S NOT, AND WE ADDED EXCEPTIONS, IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE ROAD DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME.
IT DOESN'T APPLY IF YOU'RE DIRECTLY ON YOUR WAY HOME FROM A JOB, OR IF YOU'RE DIRECTLY ON YOUR WAY HOME FROM A RECOGNIZED COMMUNITY OR SCHOOL EVENT, OR IF YOU HAD A VEHICULAR BREAKDOWN THAT WAS PREVENTING YOU FROM GETTING HOME.
IS THERE ANY, I MEAN, THERE'S A MOVIE THEATER UP THERE.
IS THERE ANY KIDS COULD BE COMING OUT OF THE MOVIE THEATER WAITING FOR PARENTS? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE BETWEEN HANGING OUT AND WAITING? AND THERE'S ALWAYS, DON'T CLOSE TILL 10.
I MEAN, IS THERE, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT WELL, THERE'S THAT, THAT PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION THAT YOU HAVE TO IN THE END TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU, ENFORCING OFFICERS WHO ARE PRETTY WELL AWARE OF THAT DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ROAMING GROUPS OF KIDS WHO ARE OUT VERSUS PEOPLE WAITING FOR THEIR CAR, THEIR PARENTS TO COME PICK THEM UP.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A, IT'S A BIT OF A GRAY AREA.
SO STANDING OUT FRONT VERSUS BEING IN THE BACK PARKING LOT WHERE IT'S DARK.
AND SO THERE WILL ALWAYS BE GRAY AREAS IN MY MR.
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MAKES SENSE THOUGH.SO YOU BRING UP A VALID POINT.
I MEAN, TYPICALLY THIS IS A LAST RESORT FOR POLICE AND WHEN WE MADE CONTACT WITH A JUVENILE IT'S BASED ON EITHER A COMPLAINT THAT'S RECEIVED OR SOME SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCE THAT DRAWS OUR ATTENTION TO THEM.
AND IT'S AT THAT POINT THAT WE TALK TO THEM, FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
AND GENERALLY IT'S A CALL TO THE PARENTS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE COME PICK UP YOUR CHILD.
UH, IT JUST GIVES US A, AN OPPORTUNITY IN A, UH, RESOURCE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF A TOWNSHIP ORDINANCE, UH, TO USE THAT, TO DISPERSE JUVENILES WHO MAY BE NOT THERE FOR A VALID REASON, A CASE IN POINT, UH, PROVINCE TOWN CENTER IS GETTING A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOW.
AND I THINK MS. HIGGINS IS AWARE OF THIS.
UM, AND SO IT PUTS US IN A LITTLE BIT OF A BIND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY HELP WITH THAT.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS A LAST RESORT.
WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OTHER WAYS OUT.
I WAS JUST, SO THIS, THIS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A CONTROL THING.
THEN THIS IS LIKE, UM, UH, WHEN THE, THE, UM, THE OFFICE, WE USED TO HAVE OFFICERS DOWN AT THE REGAL THEATER DOWN THERE THAT WERE CONTROLLING UNRULY SITUATIONS, I GUESS.
UM, THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.
ARE WE CHERYL? ARE WE AVERAGE? WE HAVEN'T ADVERTISED.
YOU'RE ONLY AUTHORIZING WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE AD.
SO WE'RE JUST MAKING A MOTION TO ADVERTISE A CHANGE TO THE TOWNSHIP CODE CHAPTER 71.
UM, SO I'LL MAKE, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THIS MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT TO DIRECTING CHUCK CHIEF FREEMAN AND THE SOLICITOR TO PREPARE AND ADVERTISE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 71 OF THE TOWNSHIP.
SO CODE FOR CONSIDERATION AT OUR AUGUST 15TH BOARD MEETING.
AND, UH, NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE MERITS OF AN ACTING A LEASH ORDINANCE.
UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW, TIM, ARE YOU IN CHARGE OF THE DOGS IN THE TOWNSHIP? I'M SORRY.
UH, I TRY TO, UH, HOPE THE MEMO, UH, UH, KINDA SUMMARIZES IT, BUT, UH, WE'VE HAD A PERSISTENT PERSON COMING TO OUR OFFICE.
AND, UM, SO THIS IS OUR EFFORT OF JUST TRYING TO TRY TO DO A DUE DILIGENCE, BRINGING IT BEFORE, HAVING A DISCUSSION AND SUPPOSE OF IT, WHETHER WE NEED ONE AND THE MORE WE'VE DRILLED DOWN ON THIS AND CHIME IN ON THIS, IT SEEMS TO ME, WE ALREADY HAVE THE TOOLS UNDER THE STATE LAWS, UM, IN FORCE THE PARTICULAR SITUATION THAT THIS LADY, UM, BUT, UH, JOE, YOU CAN CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW SOME OF, SOME OF YOUR TOWNS DO HAVE DOG LEASH ORDINANCES.
WELL, IT DOES LEAVE A GAP IN IT BECAUSE THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT, UH, IF YOU'RE OFF YOUR PROPERTY WITH A DOG, YOU HAVE TO BE IN CONTROL OF THE DOG, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IT HAS TO BE ON A LEASH.
SO SOME PEOPLE COULD SAY, WELL, I'M IN CONTROL OF MY DOG.
UM, THE, ANY LOCAL MUNICIPALITY CAN FILL IN THAT GAP AND THEN REQUIRE A LEASH TO SORT OF COMPLETE THE COMPLETE THE CIRCLE.
UM, I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT HERE.
I DRAFTED AN ORDINANCE CAUSE I'VE, I'VE PREPARED THIS ORDINANCE ELSEWHERE.
SO I CHANGED IT AROUND A LITTLE, AN ATTACHED TO HERE.
SO YOU WOULD SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF IT WAS IN PLACE.
AND IF IT WERE IN PLACE, YOU WOULD SEE HOW MUCH WORK IT IS TO IMPOUND THE DOGS AND THEN HAVE A BIG INTERFACE WITH THE PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE COMING TO GET THE DOG AND PAY THE IMPOUNDMENT FEES.
AND ARE THE POLICE GOING TO NOW BE SPENDING HALF OF THEIR DAY RUNNING AROUND AFTER EVERY DOG? THAT'S NOT ON A LEASH FOR A MOMENT, BUT WHICH ISN'T CAUSING A PROBLEM.
UM, I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IT HAS TO BE A MORE, A MORE PERVASIVE AND PERSISTENT PROBLEM TO JUSTIFY ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE.
YOU'RE, WE'RE READY TO GO WITH IT.
IF, WHEN YOU FEEL THAT MOMENT HAS ARRIVED, WHERE IT IS THAT PERSISTENT OF A PROBLEM.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK, AND NO DISRESPECT, THE PERSON MAKING THE COMPLAINT TO TIM.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THAT IS, BUT, BUT ONE PERSON'S COMPLAINT TO ME IN A FULL-SIZE TOWNSHIP, WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH OF A REASON TO ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE.
IT DOESN'T MOST OF THIS OCCUR ON THE COUNTY TRAILS.
DOES THE COUNTY HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE? SO OUR INCIDENT HAPPENED ON, UH, ON THE PERK, THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON THEIR PERKIOMEN TRAIL, THAT IT CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE IN THE TOWNSHIP.
YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE IT.
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IT USED TO BE YEARS AGO WHERE PEOPLE OWNED A DOG, THEY OPENED THE BACK DOOR AND THEY LET THE DOG OUT AND RUN AROUND FOR, I, I, I VERY SELDOM EVER SEE A DOG RUNNING AROUND THIS, THIS TOWNSHIP BY ITSELF, OFF OF A LEASH.UM, AND, AND I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH EVERYBODY HERE THAT IT'S LIKE, UM, UH, IT BECOME VERY CUMBERSOME FOR STAFF, FOR POLICE AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS STARTED, YOU KNOW, UM, TO PROVIDE SOME HISTORICAL VALUE HERE.
I HAVE MY, UH, STAFF, UH, CHECK IN TO PASS REPORTS, UH, BEGINNING IN 2018, WE HAVE 12 INCIDENTS AND HALF OF THOSE INCIDENTS WERE, UM, OWNERS OR DOG HANDLERS WERE, UH, OUT AND ABOUT ACTUALLY WALKING THEIR DOG ON THE LEASH, BUT WEREN'T STRONG ENOUGH TO CONTROL THE DOG.
AND THE DOG BROKE FREE FROM THEM.
UH, SOME THE LEASH FAILED AND THE DOG GOT LOOSE FROM THE OWNER.
THE OTHER HALF WERE, UH, REPORTS WHERE THE DOG WAS CONFINED WHEN PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT THE DOG DEFEATED WHATEVER MECHANISM THAT WAS IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, UH, CHEW THE GATE OR CRAWLED UNDER IT AND GOT LOOSE IN THAT WAY.
UH, SO 12 INCIDENTS SINCE 2018 IS THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THIS, UH, GOING FORWARD.
AND, UM, IF WE START TO SEE MORE OF THESE COMPLAINTS, MAYBE THEN WE CAN TAKE SOME KIND OF ACTION ON IT.
TIM, WAS THIS PERSON WHO COMPLAINED? WERE THEY INJURED BY A DOG OR NO? NO.
MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SHE, UH, THE DOG LUNCH THERE, IT NEVER DID ATTACK.
IT HAVE GONE SOUTH, WE KNOW CHAIRMAN HIGGINS, AND I KNOW THAT EVEN A DOG ON A LEASH CAN BITE YOU.
THEY'RE NOT CONTROLLED PROPERLY.
I W W WE'LL KEEP THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT AND BE PREPARED TO GO IF WE NEED TO.
BUT YEAH, I, I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE TO HIRE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER AND GO THE WHOLE NINE YARDS WITH TAKING PEOPLE'S DOGS, WEIGHING STUFF.
AND I AGREE WITH JOHN, I DON'T SEE THIS THAT OFTEN, AND I'M OUT WALKING THE TRAILS AND I, I SELDOM SEE MOOSE INSTALLED SQUANDERING THE TRAILS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, WELL, IF IT'S ON THE COUNTY TRAIL, IS IT COUNTY RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING ALAYSIA LAW IF THEY HAVE, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I THINK YOU CLARIFIED THAT WE CAN, WOULD BE REGULATING IRAN.
YOU'RE REGULATING PERSONAL CONDUCT OF THE PERSON WHO'S NOT IN CONTROL OF THE DOG.
SO IT'S WITHIN YOU, THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TOWNSHIP.
SO IT WOULD BE ENFORCED ON THE TRAIL.
I HAVE A NEIGHBOR'S DOG THAT ROUTINELY RUNS THROUGH THE INVISIBLE FENCE AND ATTACKED ANOTHER NEIGHBOR'S DOG A FEW DAYS AGO.
WE'LL, UH, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS, BUT WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION AND, UH, WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON IT.
[MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS]
UH, MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS, UH, JULY 12TH, REGIONALIZATION MEETING DEBRIEFING.JUST WANTED TO GIVE A, A BRIEF RECAP.
UM, LAST TUESDAY, UM, WE INVITED, UH, HALENA AND I INVITED SEVERAL, UH, UH, MEMBERS FROM OUR REGIONAL TOWNS.
I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 25 OR 30 PEOPLE, UM, COMPRISING OF, UH, ORAL COUNSELORS FROM, UH, COLLEGE ADVIL AND REUTERS FOR THE NEWLY ELECTED SUPERVISORS, UH, UH, FROM LOWER PROVIDENCE.
AND I THINK ALL OF THE MANAGERS, AND WE HAD A, I THINK A PRETTY GOOD FIRST MEETING, UM, UH, ONE OF THE TOPIC, AND ALSO WE WERE JOINED BY REPRESENTATIVES, JOE WEBSTER AND JOE
UM, AND A MEETING LASTED ABOUT, UH, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF HOURS, BUT WE HAD, UH, SOME REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, AS FAR AS, UM, TRYING TO GET ECONOMIES OF SCALE ON, UM, CERTAIN, UM, REGIONAL, UH, PROJECTS.
UH, SOME OF THE TOP ONES THAT WE LOOKED AT WERE EMERGENCY SERVICES AREAS.
UM, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING WITH TRAP, UH, BOROUGH FOLLOWING, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, UM, POSSIBLY SHARING, UM, THE COSTS OF, UH, OF AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON SHARED COST, JOINT BIDDING.
UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS A ROAD AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, COORDINATED ROAD BIDS, UM, WORKING TOGETHER ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT INITIATIVES.
UM, THIS MEETING COULD HAVE GONE.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE DAY RETREAT, TRIED TO FOCUS IN ON THE, UM,
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ON THE ITEMS THAT WERE OF INTEREST PARALLEL INTEREST TO A LOT OF THE TOWNS.I THINK BY FAR, UM, FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, UH, UH, TOP THE LIST.
OTHER, WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION WITH, UH, UH, PARKS AND REC AND THE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AT COORDINATING SOME OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS WE DISCUSSED ALSO HOW TO BETTER, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF OUR LIBRARY SERVICES, UH, UH, IN, IN THE TOWN MAY BE LEVERAGING, UM, FOUR OF THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY LIBRARIES AND THE, AND THE, UM, OUR PROVIDENCE LIBRARIES, THE WAY WE LEFT IT IS I'M GOING TO BE CONVENING A CORE GROUP OF ALL THE MANAGERS SOMETIME IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CORE GROUPS FOCUSING IN ON ALL THESE AREAS, AND WE MAY HAVE THIS BIG GROUP RECONVENED SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER.
UM, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S GOOD TIMING BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE GETTING INTO OUR RESPECTIVE BUDGETS, UH, PROBABLY IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.
SO WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA ON WHAT CAPITAL PROJECTS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHARE.
DO JOINT BIDS IS A GOOD FIRST MEETING.
AND THANKS, SUPERVISOR, UH, PEARSON AND, UH, AND KELSEY WHO IS, SO JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OTHER THAN I KNOW YOU'RE WELCOME BILL.
I DID SEE SCOTT MARTIN LAST NIGHT AND, UH, FROM TRAPPED TRAPPER AND HE AGREED IT WAS A GOOD MEETING, RIGHT? AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REVIEW OF SECOND QUARTER REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE TRENDS.
UH, ONE OF THE HAVE, UH, JEFF HAS A FEW, UH, SLIDES THAT RICHARD AND I WERE WORKING ON.
WE WERE HOLED UP IN AN OFFICE, KNOW SOME OF THESE LINE GRAPHS THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU.
THEY SEEM PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT BEHIND IT ARE, UM, 40, ABOUT 45 MONTHS OF TREND DATA THAT WE PAINSTAKINGLY TRIED TO PLOT.
SO I THINK, UM, IT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS FOCUS ON SOME OF OUR MAJOR REVENUES.
UM, RICHARD DID SOME BITE UP SOME PIE GRAPH, UH, BAR CHARTS.
YOU CAN CHIME IN RICH WERE NECESSARY ON WHERE WE STAND, BUT, UH, LET'S START WITH THE FIRST SLIDE I WANTED TO FOCUS ON THREE OF OUR MAJOR REVENUE TRENDS.
UM, ONE WOULD BE, UM, OUR REAL ESTATE TRANSFER, UM, OUR REAL ESTATE, OUR INCOME TAX, OUR BUILDING PERMIT.
UH, UM, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS ON EACH OF THESE GRAPHS SHOW THE TRENDS OF WHAT OUR NUMBERS WERE IN 2019 2021, AND WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND IN 22 AND HOW WE THINK, UM, OUR NUMBERS ARE PROJECTING OUT.
UM, WE'RE, UH, 2019, UH, WE HAVE ABOUT, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HERE.
SOME REASON THE NUMBERS DIDN'T COME UP HERE, A 2019, WE HAD ABOUT $1.2 MILLION AND, UM, AND, UH, REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAX IS THAT WE GOT IN 2019, UM, IN T NEXT SLIDE IN 2020, UH, THIS WAS THE YEAR OF THE PANDEMIC.
UM, WE CAME IN AT A LITTLE SHY OF WHAT WE DID IN, UH, 2019.
I WAS SURPRISED THAT THIS NUMBER WAS HIGHER THAN IT WAS.
I THOUGHT WITH EVERYTHING SHUT DOWN, UH, THE BUILDING TRADES AND EVERYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE, UH, BE IN A BETTER SITUATION, BUT WE BROUGHT IN CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS AND IN 2020, UM, NEXT SLIDE FOR 2021, UM, OUR NUMBER CAME IN, UH, AT AROUND $1.6 MILLION.
THE, THE THAT'S THE, UM, 2021 TOTAL.
UH, AND AS OF, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, AS OF, UH, JUNE 30TH, THIS IS THE SECOND QUARTER.
UH, WE GOT IN A COUPLE OF MAJOR REAL ESTATE TRANSFERS.
I THINK ONE WAS THE SALE OF, UH, PROVIDENCE TOWN CENTER.
WE HAD ANOTHER, UM, LESS SIZABLE TRANSPORT AS OF JUNE 30TH.
WE ALREADY HAVE ABOUT $1.6 MILLION REVENUES FOR OUR REAL ESTATE TRANSFER.
UH, X, WE HAD ONLY BUDGETED ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, WHAT I TRY TO DO WAS LOOK AT PAST TRENDS AND PROJECT OUT WHERE WE THINK, UM, OUR REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAX IS GOING TO END NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS A DOTTED LINE, SO DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS.
BUT I THINK IT'S TRACKING BASED ON PAST TRENDS.
WE SHOULD BE AROUND AT FIVE THAT'S ABOUT A MILLION A DAY, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER, BEFORE THE MEETING, THIS REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAX IS JUST SALES OF, OF REAL ESTATE IN THE TOWNSHIP.
AND WHAT WE TAX THAT TRANSACTION IS, IS NOT PROPERTY TAX, WHICH OKAY.
AND IT'S ALSO DOESN'T INCLUDE A REFINANCING.
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I KNOW SOME PEOPLE GO OUT AND REFINANCE THEIR HOMES THAT DOES NOT.SO WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME THAT AS THE TOWNSHIP FINISHES DEVELOPING THIS NUMBER MAY DROP, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT MAY BE AGING OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND WE MAY SEE THOSE HOMES SALE.
SO ANYTIME A HOME SELLS, WHETHER IT'S A INDIVIDUAL TRANSACTION OR A WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO BLOCK SOMETHING AND TRANSFER AS YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE FEDS ARE IN INCREASING INTEREST RATES.
SO WHAT THAT, I HEAR THAT THE PROPERTY MARKET'S PROBABLY GOING TO RULE.
SO WE MAY ADAPT THAT WE'LL SEE THAT TYPE OF MEMBER BECAUSE OF THE ELASTICITY OF THE TRANSFER TAX.
WE TRY NOT TO, WE TRY TO BUDGET SOME OF IT IN OUR OPERATING, BUT ANYTHING ABOVE A MILLION DOLLARS IS GOING RIGHT INTO IT.
BUT YEAH, YEAH, WE BUDGETED SOMETHING LIKE 1.6 0.7.
I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE OF WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THERE WAS A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONALS THAT CAME IN THIS YEAR.
WE DIDN'T EXPECT WHICH CAN GO INTO THE CAPITAL FOR THE PLANS IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND, UM, REAL QUICKLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR EARNED INCOME TAX TRENDS.
IN 2019, WE BROUGHT IN ABOUT TWO END POINT SOME REASON THE NUMBER STARTS SHOWING UP $10.8 MILLION.
UM, FOR 2020, THIS IS THE RECESSION.
UH, W WE BROUGHT IN A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO, UH, 2019.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE ON, UM, ON EARNED INCOME.
AND THE, I THINK WE TRACKED ABOUT $300,000 LESS THAT BROUGHT IN ABOUT 10.5, 2020.
SO I THINK WHAT THAT MEANT IS A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS OUT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAD JOBS WERE BASED WORKING VIRTUALLY, IT WASN'T REALLY A LOSS MAJOR LOSS.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT 20, 21 OR 2021.
UM, WE ENDED 2021, THE UNAUDITED NUMBER, UH, OF ABOUT $12.1 BILLION.
AND I'M LOOKING AT 2022, NEXT SLIDE AS OF 2022, WE'RE COMING IN AROUND, UH, ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AS OF JUNE 30TH.
AND IF YOU TRACK THAT OUT, IF YOU LOOK AT PAST TRENDS AND YOU CRACK THAT OUT, NEXT SLIDE, UM, TRENDING THAT OUT TO BE ALMOST WHAT 2020, ONCE WE'RE ON, WE'RE ON TRACK WITH OUR, UM, WELL ABOVE WHAT WE BUDGETED, I WANT TO MOVE ON TO BUILDING PERMITS, BUILDING PERMITS.
UM, FOR 2019, WE HAD A, UM, WE HAD, THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVING INTO BECAUSE IT'S, UM, WE'VE, UH, HAVEN'T HIT OUR MARK PRIOR YEARS, UH, HAD, UH, IN 2019 AT TOTAL NUMBERS OF ABOUT $460,000 PERMIT NUMBERS AND, UM, PERMIT FEES IN 2020, YOU CAN SEE THAT SLIGHTLY BELOW.
THAT WAS, THAT CAME IN AROUND $450,000.
UM, IN 2021, UM, IS OUR, WE HAD A SPIKE.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF BIG, UH, PERMIT.
UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAX.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF BIG DEVELOPMENTS COME ON AND WE ENDED 2021 WITH ABOUT $862,000.
AND, UM, AS OF, UH, NEXT SLIDE AS OF JUNE 30TH, UM, WE'VE TRACKED ABOUT $284,000.
AND TURN THAT OUT FOR THE YEAR.
UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 595,000.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRACKING BELOW WHAT WE BUDGETED BUILDING, AND THIS IS A NUMBER THAT WILL BE AT REST BECAUSE WE'RE OBVIOUSLY FINISHING THE TOWNSHIP, UM, AS TOLL PAID THEIR BURDEN AND BUILDING PERMITS AND FOLEY.
HERE'S THE ONE THAT'S COMING AND WE DON'T BUDGET MONIES.
WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED, UM, MID-YEAR EXPENDITURE TRENDS.
UM, I WAS GONNA ASK RICH, THIS IS WHAT A RICH'S, UH, SHEETS.
UH, WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK A SNAPSHOT RIGHT OF EVERY JUNE 30TH, 2021 TO 22.
AND KIND OF GIVES YOU A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE AT A CERTAIN POINT OF TIME AT THE MID YEAR.
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NEXT NEXT SLIDE IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET WHERE WE'RE, I KNOW SOMETIMES IN THE BILL, AS RICHARD'S BEEN SHOWING THE, UM, WHERE WE STAND WITH CERTAIN EXPENDITURES, AND SOMETIMES THE NUMBERS ARE MISLEADING BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, SOME OF THE REVENUES, UH, SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES THAT WE NUMBER SOME OF OUR LARGE EXPENDITURES BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AS FAR AS PENSION OBLIGATIONS ON A SKEWS, THE NUMBER.SO, UM, THIS KIND OF SHOWS A LITTLE BIT BETTER SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS ENDING BUDGET, UH, BY THIS TIME OR CRACKING A LITTLE BELOW.
SOME OF OUR BUYER IS VERY BELOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T, UM, PLANNING ON IMPLEMENTING LIKE EARLIER, LIKE, AND, UM, THE LAST, UH, I THINK THAT'S RICH.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT SH CHART REAL QUICK? THAT'S YOUR LAST DAY, YOU'VE BEEN LUCKY SO FAR.
SO I THINK WHAT THIS SHOWS IS OUR, UM, JUST THE TRACKING OF OUR EXPENDITURES BY DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS OUR GRAPH FOR THE LAST, UH, 20 23, 20 22 EXPENDITURES, UH, SHOWS THAT THE, UH, ADMIN PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND PUBLIC WORKS AND BUILDING WERE COMBINED AND RECREATION AND TRANSFERS AND OTHERS.
UH, THE FIRST FOUR DEPARTMENTS, AS YOU CAN SEE, ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO, UH, THE 50% MARK.
IT JUST DEPENDS, LIKE TIM SAID, A LOT OF THE EXPENSES ARE PAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR PENSION EXPENSES.
A LOT OF TIMES CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ARE MADE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WHICH YOU WOULD A LITTLE BIT FROM THE 50%.
UH, RECREATION IS THE ONE THAT'S TYPICALLY BELOW 50% AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR.
AND USUALLY THEIR PROGRAMS, UH, HAPPENED IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR.
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PUT SOME MORE MONEY ASIDE INTO CAPITAL FUNDS TO PAY FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES, SUCH AS THE FIRE BUILDING.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON ALL OF THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO WE'RE PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
AND AS WE HAVE OUR AUGUST WORKSHOP OR, ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM, UH, CASEY, DO YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN HELP ME ON THIS.
WE GOT A, THEY MIGHT GO LIKE 400, 3 99.
GREENLIGHT GO AWARD, UH, $399,101 FOR I'M 29 AND DOE RUN.
IT'S REALLY TO UPGRADE, MODERNIZE THE EXISTING SPAN WIRE SIGNAL THAT'S THERE.
UM, THAT SIGNAL DESIGN HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 30 YEARS.
UH, THE MAINTENANCE UPKEEP OF THAT IS, UM, COSTLY AND THE REASON FOR THE PROJECTS TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND THE ADA, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WITH, ALONG WITH THE UPGRADE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SIGNAL SUPPORTS LIKE REGULAR MAST.
ARM'S GOING TO TAKE THE WIRES DOWN.
WE KNOW THAT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO GET, UM, UH, ADA EQUIPMENT THEN, UM, AND PUT IN ADA RAMPS AND SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS TO THE SURROUNDING TRAIL NETWORK THAT'S COMES TO THAT INTERSECTION.
SO, UH, THAT'LL ALL BE DONE UNDER THIS GRANT.
YOU'RE, UH, ONE OF THE LUCKY SELECT THESE WELL, I THANK THE GOVERNOR FOR SIGNING THE BILL AND THANK A REPRESENTATIVE, A WEBSTER FOR AT POINT A MENARD DIRECTION.
AND I KNOW ANY PLACE WHERE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE HANGING BY WIRES ARE CONSIDERED TEMPORARY AT THIS POINT, RIGHT.
AND WILL BE REPLACED AT SOME WELL THAT THERE ARE COMMUNITIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE THAT HAVE SPAN WIRE SIGNALS.
AND IT'S REALLY, THE COMMUNITY SAID, THIS IS A MATCH GRANT.
SO IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT PAID BY THE STATE.
THERE'S A MATCH THAT THE TOWNSHIP HAS TO PROVIDE.
SO, UM, THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT RIGHT AWAY, JUST BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE THAT FUNDING.
AND THEY'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR, UH, UH, PENN DOT PROJECT THAT'S COMING THROUGH THOSE INTERSECTIONS TO REPLACE IT.
SO THIS TOWNSHIP HAS BEEN, UH, VERY AHEAD OF THE CURVE IN TERMS OF IMPROVING SAFETY FOR THE RESIDENTS.
SO I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT W A WIND STORM AND A LIGHT COMING THROUGH YOUR WINDSHIELD AND MAKE, GOT A REALLY BAD DAY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, CONSULTANT
[CONSULTANT REPORTS]
REPORTS, UH, TO ANY ONE PROJECT UPDATE, IS THAT YOU GEN YEP.I HAVE A UPDATE ON THE ATTENDEE RUN, SANITARY SEWER PROJECT.
THE PUMP STATION WENT WELL AND VALVE CHAMBERS INSTALLED FORCE MAIN AND WATER SERVICE FOR THE PUMP STATION ARE COMPLETED.
THE GENERATOR PUMP CONTROL BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
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AND THE ELECTRICAL WORK FOR THAT HAS STARTED THE GRAVITY, GRAVITY, SANITARY, SEWER MAIN AND LATERALS ARE COMPLETE AND INSTALLED IN THE MARSHAL WOULD DEVELOPMENT AND ALONG OLD STATE ROAD, FINAL PAVING AND PAVEMENT MARKINGS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED IN THE MARSHA DEVELOPMENT AND ON OLD STATE ROAD, THE GRAVITY SEWER MAIN AND LATERALS ARE COMPLETE IN THE ROSEMONT DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTORS DOING CONCRETE WORK, WHICH INCLUDES REPLACING THE CURB SIDEWALK AND ADA RAMPS IN THE ROSEMONT DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTORS, INSTALLING SANITARY, SEWER, GRAVITY, MAIN AND FRUIT FARM ROAD.THE INSTALLATION HERE IS SLOWER DUE TO THE DEPTH OF THE SANITARY SEWER MAIN AND THE LARGE AMOUNT OF ROCK THAT'S BEING ENCOUNTERED.
THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 2000 LINEAR FEET OF SEWER MAIN THAT REMAINS TO BE INSTALLED IN FRUIT FARM.
ONCE THE MAIN IS FINISHED, THE CONTRACTOR WILL START TO INSTALL THE SANITARY SEWER LATERALS TO EACH EXISTING HOME LOCATED ALONG FRUIT FARM ROAD.
THE CONTRACTOR ANTICIPATES COMPLETING THE SANITARY MAIN INSTALLATION IN LATE AUGUST, EARLY SEPTEMBER.
ONCE AGAIN, DUE TO THE ROCK BEING ENCOUNTERED, IT IS THE ROCK SO BAD THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO BLAST, OR THEY JUST HAVING TO JUST REALLY BOUND IT TOGETHER RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN MOVING ON, I HAVE GREENWOOD AVENUE, SANITARY SEWER.
THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN IS COMPLETE, AND THE PROFILE IS COMPLETE.
WE'RE WAITING FOR PLANNING MODULE APPROVAL FROM DEP OR A TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD, SANITARY STORE.
THE EASEMENT LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS AND EXHIBIT PLANS ARE BEING PREPARED FOR THE REQUIRED EASEMENTS.
ADDITIONAL FIELD WORK IS NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED TO OBTAIN THE ACCESS EASEMENT AT AN HOP FROM TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.
UM, BUT THE PRELIMINARY SEWER ASSIGNMENT, UH, SEWER ALIGNMENT IS COMPLETE.
AS FAR AS THE TOWNSHIP ROAD PAVING PROJECTS FOR 2022 GOES, IT IS COMPLETE.
UH, THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
UM, ONE PUNCH LIST ITEM REMAINS, AND THEN THE RETAINERS FOR THE PROJECT CAN BE RELEASED UPON RECEIPT OF FINAL PAYMENT APPLICATION FROM THE CONTRACTOR.
NOW WE'RE DOWN TO ITEM 14, UM, MONTHLY ESCROW REVIEW LIST.
WE HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE FIVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WRECK.
WE WANT TO RECOMMEND, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LATE, YOU COULD TURN AROUND AND ASK THE GUY BEHIND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN OPENING LATE IN AUGUST, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ALL PUNCH LIST ITEMS AND, AND WE WILL BE DOING, UH, WE WILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS LATE AUGUST.
WE WILL DO THE RIBBON CUTTING AND PUBLIC TOURS ON COMMUNITY DAY.
AND IF WE NEED TO DO ANOTHER DAY FOR PUBLIC TOURS, IF WE CAN'T GET IRONY IN, WE'LL SEE A BIG, THE CROWDS ARE, WILL WE? WE WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT.
THAT IS THAT'S COMING UP SOON.
UM, MONTHLY ESCROW REVIEW LIST.
UH, WE'VE GOT FIVE THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED FOR RELEASE AND FIVE THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL.
WE WANT TO SPEAK TO THOSE AT ALL.
OR I CAN STATE GENERALLY, UM, THAT THE, ALL OF THE APPROVALS ARE OUR ROUTINE.
THE DENIALS ALL HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON, WHICH IS A LEGAL ISSUE.
THE STATE LAW CONCERNING HOW ESCROW MONEY GETS RELEASED WAS CHANGED, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPERS.
AND THEY MANY DEVELOPERS IMMEDIATELY SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE RETAINAGE UNDER THE NEW LAW.
AND I ISSUED AN OPINION TO, TO THE ENGINEERS THAT IN MY OPINION, UH, OUR AGREEMENTS WERE VALID AT THE TIME THEY WERE SIGNED.
AND THEN THEY WERE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW, AS IT EXISTED AT THE TIME THEY WERE SIGNED.
AND THEY SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT WE'LL RETAIN THE MONEY IN A CERTAIN WAY UNDER THE OLD LAW.
SO I THINK WE'RE WITHIN OUR RIGHTS IN CONTINUING TO ENFORCE THE OLD WAY, WHICH IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWNSHIP.
DO WE, WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS.
CAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER DOING THIS WELL, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A MORE GENERAL STATEMENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD RECOMMENDED TO TO STAFF WAS THAT YOU START THE WAY, THE WAY THE STATE LAW SAYS IS THAT WHEN, WHEN A DEVELOPER ASKS FOR A BRING DOWN ON THE ESCROW, YOUR ENGINEER HAS 45 DAYS TO GET A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU FOR A VOTE.
USUALLY IT'S DONE COMPLETELY BY THE ENGINEERED.
IT NEVER USED TO BE BROUGHT TO YOU, BUT THE BEST PRACTICE IS TO BRING IT TO YOU BECAUSE IF THERE'S A DISPUTE AND YOU DON'T VOTE WITHIN THE 45 DAYS, IT'S CONSIDERED APPROVED, THEIR REQUEST IS CONSIDERED APPROVED.
NOW THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT THE BEST PRACTICE AND THE PRACTICE ELSEWHERE IS TO BRING IT TO THE ELECTED BODY, TO FORMALLY VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ENGINEER.
SO JUST A COINCIDENCE AND TIMING THAT AS SOON AS YOU GUYS STARTED DOING THAT, WE HAPPEN TO HAVE
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A BUNCH OF DENIALS ON THIS LIST, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.WE'RE GOING TO FIRST DO THE APPROVALS AND THEN WE'LL DO A SECOND MOTION FOR THE DENIAL.
SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO IT ALL IN ONE MOTION SO THAT WE AREN'T HERE FOREVER.
I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RELEASE OF ESCROW FOR LIDAR SHOPS AT UPPER PROVIDENCE.
THIS IS A CLOSE-OUT FINAL RELEASE IN THE AMOUNT OF $18,371 AND 95 CENTS.
ALSO A RE A WRITTEN APPROVAL FOR A RELEASE FOR 400 OPPORTUNITY WAY.
THIS IS A CLOSE OUT FINAL RELEASE OF $63,050 AND 34 CENTS.
ALSO IN THIS MOTION, OXFORD LEE, 3 95 GREENWOOD AVENUE RELEASED NUMBER THREE IN THE AMOUNT OF $32,567 AND 25 CENTS.
AGAIN, OXFORD LEE AND OTHER CHUNK.
THIS IS RELEASED NUMBER FOUR 50, $2,309 $19 AND 78 CENTS.
AND THE FINAL ONE IN THIS MOTION IS A RELEASE FOR FOUNDERS OF STATE, THE BARKER PROPERTY RELEASE NUMBER FIVE IN THE AMOUNT OF $68,293 AND 50 CENTS.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DO FIVE, UH, ESCROW RELEASES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
NOW WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR FIVE DENIALS AND I WILL ALSO PUT THOSE IN EMOTION.
UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE RELEASE FOR RIDGEWOOD PHASE TWO, A RELEASE NUMBER 14 IN THE AMOUNT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND $280 AND 1 CENT, A RIDGEWOOD PHASE TO BE RELEASED.
NUMBER SEVEN IN THE AMOUNT OF $62,502 AND 54 CENTS.
RIDGEWOOD PHASE TWO C RELEASE NUMBER FOUR FOR $61,800 AND 9 CENTS.
UH, FOUNDERS' ESTATE BARKER PROPERTY RELEASE NUMBER SIX $71,231.
AND FOUNDER'S RESERVE HESS PROPERTY RELEASE NUMBER 11 IN THE AMOUNT OF $247,226 AND 96 CENTS.
AND I WILL NEED A SECOND FOR THAT.
UH, NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE SOLICITOR'S REPORT.
[SUPERVISORS COMMENTS]
THE TIME FOR SUPERVISOR'S COMMENTS.I, UH, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE WAY THE MEETING OPENED UP.
YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED IN, IN MONTCLAIR AND PORT PROVINCES IS A TRAGEDY.
UM, I REFLECT ON WHAT SHE'S SAYING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS IN A BUYOUT.
I SELL A HOUSE, I PAID TAXES ON THE HOUSE.
I OWN, I SELL IT, BUT WHEN IT GETS BOUGHT OUT, I ASSUME IT WORKS THE SAME.
IF YOU BACK UP A NOTCH, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS I'M PAYING TAXES.
WHAT AM I GETTING BACK? ARE NEIGHBORHOODS STILL DESTROYED? AND PEOPLE ARE STILL NOT FEELING GREAT, RIGHT? AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY EVERYBODY'S NOT FEELING GREAT THAT THERE WAS ONE PERSON, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT TOWN, THAT, THAT AREA OF OUR, OF OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY TIGHT KNIT AND HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
SO I THINK WE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE TAKE TIME AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE MEETING ON THE PLANNING LATER THIS WEEK.
IT'D BE NICE TO KIND OF EXTEND BACK WHAT ARE WE PLANNING TO DO IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE.
I THINK THERE'S A SENSE OF LOSS STILL THERE.
AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO GIVE BACK? WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ANYBODY IN THE FUTURE.
RIGHT? I THINK WE WE'VE SAID THAT MANY TIMES THE LAND IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPABLE, BUT IT DOESN'T STOP.
I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IMPROVING THE ROADS AND SIDEWALKS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO IMPROVE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY WORTHWHILE FOR US TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BETTER COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY.
THIS WOULD BE AN AREA I THINK WE COULD, WE COULD MAYBE DO SOMETHING AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND, HEY, UM, PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES.
NOW I'M PAYING MONEY INTO THE TOWNSHIP.
SO I THINK ANY RESIDENT CAN ASK THAT I'M PAYING REAL ESTATE TAXES, TAXES WERE JUST RAISED.
UM, SO EVERYONE'S PAYING MORE NOW.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTHWHILE FOR
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US TO JUST RECOGNIZE THAT AS A TOWNSHIP AND, AND BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE, I KNOW YOU'VE DONE SOME TREMENDOUS THINGS WITH THE, WITH THE GAUGES.I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THAT.
I THINK LONG-TERM, I ALSO HEAR THERE'S GOING TO BE A LET'S STEP BACK AND SEE WHAT WENT WELL AND WHAT DIDN'T GO WELL, AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
SO THERE'S, SHORT-TERM THINGS THAT WERE PHENOMENAL ARE OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES NOMINAL AND BILL YOU'RE RIGHT.
NOBODY LOST THEIR LIFE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
WE'VE DONE THE RIGHT CORRECTIONS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN WARN THE PEOPLE.
LONG-TERM WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE'RE DOING? I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S SO THAT'S MY COMMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, WE HAVE A VERY, UH, UH, LARGE COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFECTED ALL OVER THE PLACE AND, AND THOSE FOLKS ARE STILL FEELING THE PAIN OF WHAT HAPPENED.
THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT IT, BUT YEAH, I THINK THERE'S PLANS TO PUT SOME TREES AND THINGS INTO THERE AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE, I THINK WE OWE IT TO THEM TO KIND OF SAY WHAT WHAT'S THE PLANS AND JUST BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS, BUT MAYBE IT'S JUST ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WAS THE REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAX THAT EVERYBODY PAYS WHEN THEY SELL A HOME, JUST UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE BEING BOUGHT OUT IN THIS FEMA PURCHASE PROGRAM WILL NOT PAY THAT THEY WILL BE, THEY WON'T HAVE TO PAY REAL ESTATE TRANSFER TAX.
AND I THINK THAT THE OFFERS HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY GENEROUS.
THE, THE, UH, UH, I CAN'T FIX THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND.
IT IS WHERE IT IS AND THE RISK WILL REMAIN HIGH, UH, AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCELERATED RAINFALL.
SO IN ANY EVENT, THANK YOU, TOM.
IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK AT THE MICROPHONE, SIR, PLEASE.
YOU'RE GOING TO TYPICALLY THE THREE MINUTES IS AT THE BEGINNING, BUT I'LL GRANT YOU THREE MINUTES RIGHT NOW, BUT I NEED YOUR NAME AND YOUR STREET ADDRESS.
UM, ALEX MARKS 9 6 1 PORT PROVIDENCE ROAD.
UH, I JUST BOUGHT THAT HOUSE A FEW MONTHS AGO AND STARTED VISITING IT AND THINKING, SHOULD I REALLY LIVE IN A FLOOD ZONE, LOVING ANTIQUES.
AND, UM, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE HOUSE.
I LOVED THE LAND ACROSS THE STREET.
AND IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, ATLANTA ACROSS THE STREET ACTUALLY HAS MADE A DRAMATIC, A DRAMATIC CHANGE.
UM, THE, YOU GUYS HIRED A COMPANY TRUE GREEN.
THAT'S BEEN PUTTING DOWN CHEMICALS TO KILL OFF ALL THE NATIVE AND SOME NON-NATIVE, BUT EVEN MORE BENEFICIAL PLANTS FOR NOT JUST THE EARTH, OUR DOGS AND OUR WILDLIFE, BUT, UH, ALSO THE, THE WHERE'S THE SKIRT HURRY.
UM, WE'LL PROBABLY MULTIPLE AREAS, BUT, UH, LONGFORD PARK.
UM, AND TH THERE'S A TRAILHEAD RIGHT ON POOR PROVIDENCE ROAD THERE.
UM, AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE TORN DOWN AND SUPPOSEDLY PLANTING TREES, WHICH SOUNDS AMAZING.
UM, BUT YEAH, I JUST NOTICED THE, THE SPECIES OF PLANTS GROWING IN THE FIELDS THERE, UH, HAVE DIMINISHED IN DIVERSITY DRAMATICALLY, DRAMATICALLY AFTER THEY PUT DOWN A TWO D 40, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, A SAFER HERBICIDE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CARCINOGENIC FREE.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S KNOWN TO HAVE KILLED THOUSANDS OF HORSES AND CATTLE.
AND SO MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON NOW.
I CAN'T WALK MY DOGS IN THE GRASS, I GUESS WE'LL STICK TO THE PAVEMENT.
THAT'S HARD ON REALLY HOT DAYS.
AND ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT FUN IDEA, I THOUGHT OF LAST WEEK WAS AT THE DOG PARK, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.
YOU'VE GOT TWO SIDES, WHICH IS NICE.
YOU GET TO LET THE GRASS REGROW.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE COULD BE A WAY TO OPEN UP BOTH SIDES JUST ONE DAY, A WEEK OR TWICE A WEEK, IF NOT ONCE A MONTH, ANYTIME AT ALL, I THINK WOULD HELP A LOT, NOT JUST THE SOCIAL INTERACTIONS WITH DOGS.
SO CERTAIN DOGS, LIKE MY ONE SMALL FEMALE COULD PLAY WITH SOME OF HER FRIENDS WITHOUT BEING BOMBARDED WITH OTHER LARGE, MORE RAMBUNCTIOUS DOGS.
AND THEN, UM, OTHER DOGS MIGHT FIND IT EASIER TO MEET DOGS, THEIR OFFENSE BEFORE GETTING THROWN INTO A GIANT PEN WITH A BUNCH OF DOGS.
AND THE WAYS THAT MY TWO TOPICS ACTUALLY INTERCONNECT A LITTLE BIT IS CAN SEE THE SPECIES OF PLANTS THAT ARE NOW KILLED FROM THE TWO D 40, WHICH IS A GOOD, THE NAME.
IT STARTS WITH AN A, AND IT GOES INTO THE ROOTS AND CAUSES MATTE MASS GROWTH, RAPID GROWTH,
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REALLY FAST.SO THEY GROW SO FAST THAT THEY DIE WITHIN A WEEK, USUALLY TWO TO FOUR DAYS.
AND THE, UM, THAT THEN THEY'RE ADDING IN NITROGEN AND THINGS THAT USUALLY THE CLOVER ADDS IN THROUGH THEIR TUBERS, WHICH ADD, UM, ORGANIC MASS INTO THE SOIL.
SO THE THAT'S MORE EFFECTIVE THAN THE HOLES THEY'RE PUNCHING IN THE GRASS LATER.
AND YOU'RE PAYING ALL THIS MONEY FOR THE HOLES BEING PUNCHED IN THE HERBICIDES AND PESTICIDES.
AND IN TURN, YOU MIGHT GET THIS LUSCIOUS GRASS THAT LOOKS NICE SHORT-TERM, BUT LONG-TERM, IT'S CAUSING MASS EXTINCTIONS OF INSECTS, BIRDS, WILDLIFE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE POOR DRAINAGE TOO.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE MUD.
THE GRASS WILL DIE OUT FASTER, OVER TIME.
SO BY ALLOWING THE COMMON PLANTING, THE PURSLANE AND THE CLOVERS AND ALL THESE WILD FLOWERS TO GROW, IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH DRAINAGE.
IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH HEALTH.
UM, LESS DOGS ARE GOING TO GET CANCER AND BECOME SICK FROM IT.
AND IT'S GOING TO HELP US TO, TO ENJOY THESE LANDS FULL OF BIRDS AND WILDLIFE AND INSECTS AND, AND SO FORTH.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO THAT.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN PLANTS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, RAISING IT TO OUR ATTENTION SO WE CAN, WE CAN SEE IT'S BEING USED.
I APPRECIATE YOU RAISING THAT.
THERE'S A ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL, UM, COMMITTEE TO THE, I SAW THAT.
I THINK THAT STARTS THIS WEEK, RIGHT? YEAH, NO, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE.
MAYBE TO PASS ALONG TO THAT CREW OF PEOPLE.
IT'S ALL THE TANTRUM CALENDARS THIS WEDNESDAY I'LL GET INVOLVED.
UPCOMING EVENTS ARE NEXT TO, I DO MY BOOKS OF THE PYRO SEEN BY STEPHEN J PINE, A DEMOCRACY IN CHAINS BY NANCY MACLEAN AND DARK MONEY BY JANE MAYER.
AND I'VE ALREADY SENT CHERYL AN EMAIL.
THAT MOTION I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.