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[CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL]
UH, BOB HEIST, VICE CHAIR, ROBERT OR NICOLA, DANE, SECRETARY FORGOT THE ORDER.AGENT KRUPA IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.
UH, JOE RESIDENTS HERE AS OUR SOLICITOR AND JEN GOT Y'ALL'S HERE FROM THE ENGINEERING FIRM.
THAT'S EVERYBODY AND A MIXING WOULD BE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE WAS ANY PUBLIC HERE.
SO YEAH, THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
IT DOESN'T LOOK, YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY NOTHING.
SO WE HAVE NO NOTHING THERE, UH, GENERAL DISCUSSIONS THAT JEFF HAS NEXT TO THAT.
NONE, EXCEPT FOR I'LL JUST ADD ONE THING.
THIS IS NOT A PARCAST MEETING.
I HAD TO SAY, I WANT TO, I WANTED TO GET ON THE RECORD.
I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT, UH, THIS SUNDAY IS FATHER'S DAY IS THE FIRST ANNUAL OPERA PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP CAR SHOW RIGHT HERE AT THIS BUILDING.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON FATHER'S DAY, CAR SHOW IS HERE SHOULD BE A GOOD TIME.
WE'VE BEEN PLAYING IT FOR THREE YEARS AND FINALLY, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
YEAH, I HEAR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT.
I THINK WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT.
[APPLICATIONS TO BE HEARD]
OUR AGENDA TONIGHT AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE AGENDA ITEM, UH, MINGO ROAD, MINOR SUBDIVISION.MAY I ASK WHO'S HERE TO REPRESENT THAT.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, WHERE YOU FROM? GOOD EVENING.
I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT AND THE OWNERS ARE HERE AS WELL.
AND SO IS THAT ON, IS THAT WORKING? YES.
YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TILT IT UP A LITTLE BIT CRUSHED.
LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO FALL OFF.
SO THIS IS A, IT'S ABOUT A FOUR ACRE PROPERTY.
IS IT WANT TO WORK FOR YOU? SO THIS IS A, A FOUR ACRE PROPERTY OFF OF MINGO ROAD.
THE ADDRESS IS TWO 10 MINGO ROAD RIGHT UP ON THE UPPER SIDE OF THE PLAN IS RIGHT WHERE THE CREEK IS AND THAT THE BRIDGE WHERE IT'S LIKE A ONE-WAY CROSSING.
UM, AND SO THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT FOUR ACRES.
THE APPLICANTS WOULD LIKE TO SUBDIVIDE INTO ONE LOT WITH THE EXISTING HOUSE AND DRIVEWAY TO REMAIN.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING HOUSE TO REMAIN WITH THE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES OUT TO MINGO ROAD.
UH, THE AFRICANS WOULD LIKE TO SUBDIVIDE OFF A, A NEW LOT, UH, ON THIS SIDE AT THIS TIME, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT ON THAT LOT.
THEY WOULD JUST LIKE TO CREATE THE NEW LOT.
UH, THE ZONING HERE IS ONE ACRE MINIMUM.
THIS THOUGHT IS ABOUT FOUR ACRES.
UH, THE NEW LOT IS ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.
SO WE DID HAVE TO GO TO THE ZONING HEARING BOARD AND GET APPROVAL FOR, FOR THAT LOT AREA, WHICH WE DID RECEIVE.
UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THAT.
UH, WE DO HAVE REVIEW LETTERS FROM BOTH MCMAHON AND GILMORE THAT I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH.
UH, THEY'RE BASICALLY ALL EITHER WILL COMPLY ITEMS OR JUST COMMENTS THAT I COULD GO THROUGH ONE BY ONE, IF YOU'D LIKE, OR, OH, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON OR YOU SOMETHING YOU SPECIFICALLY WANT TO POINT OUT WHAT THE QUEER, SO IT IS SIMPLE.
UM, OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS WHAT WE NOTED IN THE LETTER, JUST DESIGNATING WHERE THE UTILITIES ARE GOING TO BE PUBLIC, WATER AND SEWER.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE GAS LINE THAT'S SHOWN IS EXISTING ON THE SMALLER LOT THAT YOU'RE CREATING.
JUST VERIFY WHAT THAT EASEMENT IS.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO CREATE A LOT.
THAT'S NOT BUILDABLE BECAUSE THE EASEMENT IS SO BIG.
SO IS IT 10 FEET? IS IT 75 FEET? THAT'S REALLY OUR ONLY ISSUE.
UH, I'LL FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION.
I TRIED TO LOOK IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT I DON'T, THAT I HAVE, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING INDICATING THE EASEMENT WITH.
UH, WHEN THE SURVEYOR DID THE SURVEY, THEY DID A ONE CALL.
THEY GOT THE PLAN FROM THE UTILITY COMPANY, WHICH ACTUALLY SHOWED THAT THE LINE KIND OF RUNNING THROUGH THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY INSTEAD, BUT OUT AT THE SITE, THEY NOTED THOSE, UH, LIKE PYLONS TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, SO I'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET A COPY OF THE TITLE REPORT, WHICH WOULD HOPEFULLY SHOW MORE INFORMATION ON THAT EVENING.
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NO MAJOR ISSUE ON OUR PART.WE JUST NOTED, UH, ACCORDING TO NEW YORK AND IT'S JUST THE LABEL, THE SITE DISTANCE WHERE THE EXISTING ACCESS AND WE JUST NOTED FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, A LOT TO JUST MORE OF A HEADS UP, IF THERE'S ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS TO KEEP SOME SIGHT DISTANCE, UM, KEEP SIGHT DISTANCE IN MIND, SINCE IT'S ON A TANGENT SECTION BETWEEN CURVES, IT'S MORE OF A FUTURE, UM, ADDS UP MORE THAN ANYTHING.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION? WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S THE LONG-TERM GOALS RIGHT NOW? THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING, BUT IT'S A, IT'LL BE A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, LOT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR BUDDIES? GOOD.
UH, I'LL, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, TO APPROVE THIS, UH, DIVISION THIS LOT DIVISION.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE ZONING BOARD, UH, THE EXEMPTION ON THE ACRE.
SO, UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS OR DENY IT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND AND WHATEVER JET YOU'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO GENTLEMEN, SOME OF THE EASEMENT STUFF.
WELL, SO I GOT A MOTION TO, UH, TO, UH, RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL, UH, THIS SUBDIVISION AND, UH, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, UH, WE MEET ALL, UH, JEN'S REQUIREMENTS FOR EASEMENT AND ANTHONY THINKS WE'RE GOOD.
RIGHT, ANTHONY? WE'RE GOOD ON THE, ON THE ROAD.
IT, I GET A SECOND FROM GILLY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UM, MOVING ON TO OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS NOW COMPLETED, UM, UH, WE'LL
[FUTURE AGENDA DISCUSSION]
JUST TALK ABOUT FUTURE AGENDAS ON JEFF RIGHT NOW.THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE QUEUED UP IS, UM, 1 72 HOPWOOD ROAD.
THEY WILL, UM, BE IN ON JULY 6TH FOR A DISCUSSION ABOUT THEIR CONDITIONAL USE AND TENTATIVE PLAN.
UM, I HAD TO GIVE AWAY ONE OF MY AGENDAS, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS EITHER WAITING ON PLANS OR THEY'VE ASKED NOT TO BE IN AN AGENDA ANYTIME SOON.
SO WHAT IS HOPWOOD ROAD AGAIN? WHAT ARE THEY COMING IN FOR THE TOWNHOUSES ALONG HOPWOOD ROAD? WE HAVE, WE'VE SEEN CONCEPT PLANS EARLY ON.
THIS WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, THE, THE APARTMENTS AT THE BOTTOM OF HOPWOOD AND 29.
GALMAN, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH SOME INTERNAL ISSUES ABOUT THE, THE LAYOUT AND THE DESIGN.
IT'S TAKEN THEM ABOUT A YEAR, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE FINALLY THERE AND NOW THEY'RE READY TO MOVE THEIR TENTATIVE PLAN AND CONDITIONAL USE PLAN FOR THEY.
UH, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN ANY, UH, UH, REMIT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY STILL HAVE THE DANGEROUS ASSERTION THAT THE MR. SILVER SIGNED ORIGINALLY LIMITING THEM TO 48 UNITS AND CERTAIN SETBACKS AND SOME OTHER REQUIREMENTS? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THEM ALL, BUT, UM, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW THE PLAN COMPLIES WITH THAT DEED RESTRICTION AT THIS POINT, I THINK GALMAN HAD ASKED TO CHANGE THE DEED RESTRICTION AT ONE POINT TO HAVE A COUPLE MORE UNITS, I THINK GO TO 52 OR 50 UNITS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DISCUSSION WAS.
ALL I KNOW IS I WAS TOLD WE'RE STICKING WITH A 48 AND PLEASE MOVE THIS PLAN FORWARD.
SO AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THE, THEY KIND OF THAT'S WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT IT, AND THEY'RE KIND OF A PIECE THEM TO WHATEVER, SOME DEGREE TO SOME DEGREE.
AND I MEAN, I CAN'T PROMISE THEY WON'T COME OUT AND HAVE A CONVERSATION, BUT THAT'S THERE.
WELL, I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS ANY, ANY, UH, CAUSE THEY, THEY HAD AN ATTORNEY TO WRITE AT SOME POINT AND I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S STILL INVOLVED OR NOT.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE JULY 6TH AND ON THE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR RECORD AND IS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW APPLICATIONS THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A WAIVER OF THE CLOCK REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF, WE HAVE TO TURN THAT ONE SORT OF THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, THEY WOULD GIVE US A WAIVER IF WE SORT OF, AND I THINK WE WILL RUN THAT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE CONDITIONAL USES ARE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED.
THE HEARING IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE AUGUST BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
UM, SO WE, WE HAVE TO GET THAT ONE THROUGH EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE HAVE OUR WAIVERS ON AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING FOR PLANS AND UPDATES.
AND UH, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE AUTO ZONE IT'S BEEN ON THERE FOR MONTHS, WHAT IS THAT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED IN THERE.
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SAID THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE LOOKING AT A TRAFFIC STUDY, I'M WORKING ON A TRAFFIC STUDY.SO THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT IT.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO A CONDITIONAL USE.
I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY DOING A LITTLE BIT OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WORK FIRST TO GET THROUGH AND SHOW US THAT THEY WORK AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE HOPWOOD ROAD.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE AND THE POPLAR ROAD WHERE THAT ONE IS? WE ARE, I THINK WE ARE WAITING ON FINAL PLANS FOR THAT.
THEY HAVE PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL.
I THINK THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THEIR OUTSIDE AGENCY ISSUES.
THE MPDS PERMITS THE LETTER OF MAP REVISION FROM FEMA THAT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES BEFORE THEY SUBMIT ANOTHER, A FINAL PLAN.
SO THERE'LL BE BACK AT SOME POINT THEY WILL BE BACK AT SOME POINT.
LOOKING FOR A FINAL, FINAL RULE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY ON ANYTHING ELSE ON A FUTURE AGENDA? I'M TRYING TO UPDATE, AS YOU SEE THERE, I'M TRYING TO UPDATE THE AGENDA, THE PUBLIC AGENDA WITH WHEN IT CAN POTENTIALLY, WHEN THINGS COULD POTENTIALLY BE ON THERE AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF PARKHOUSE, PEOPLE WERE SAYING, OH, WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, WHEN'S THAT GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA? THERE WERE SOME RUMORS, CIRCULATION CIRCULATING THAT WAS GONNA BE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IT WASN'T.
SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, USER-FRIENDLY A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENT OF WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THEY WERE, I HEARD SOME COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE WERE UPSET THAT IT MIGHT BE ON JULY 6TH BECAUSE THAT'S A VACATION WEEK.
WELL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF IT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A LOT OF RUMORS FLYING AROUND THAT.
I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT WAY.
I GUESS SO I GUESS, UH, WELL ANY JOE, ANYTHING ANTHONY, JEN, ANYTHING FROM YOU GUYS? OH, WOW.
I THINK IT IS I'M TO STOP TRYING TO FIGURE SOMETHING, SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SAME LET'S LEAST MAKE IT 15 MINUTES.
NICOLE JUMPED ON THAT WITH, UH, I GOT A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
UH, KELLY'S GIVEN SECOND ON FAVOR TO 13 MINUTES AND YES,