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[CALL TO ORDER]
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, THIS WHOLE, EVERYBODY[MOTION TO APPROVE BOARD AGENDA]
SAYS SHE IS I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD AGENDA THIS EVENING.
THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD AGENDA THIS EVENING, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
ALL RIGHT.NOW'S THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, WE ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR STREET ADDRESS, AND PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.
I'M A RESIDENT OF AT 1 27 SOUTH RIEBER ROAD IN OAKS.
THE REASON I'M HERE IS, UM, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR PRESERVATION OF GREEN SPACE AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND THE FINANCIAL WAY WE DO IT.
AND I HAD BROUGHT UP TO A COUPLE PEOPLE IN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY WE DON'T HAVE MORE RESIDENTS BEING ABLE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY AND TITLE IT OPEN SPACE, JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HELP IN PRESERVING OPEN SPACE.
UM, IN PARTICULAR WHERE MY PROPERTY IS, I OWN TWO PROPERTIES.
UH, IT IS NEXT TO A TOWNSHIP OWN PROPERTY.
THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS FLOODPLAIN.
IT IS FALLS UNDER ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT MY INTEREST IN IT IS, IS JUST TO HELP PRESERVE THAT AS GREEN SPACE AS IT IS AND MAKING A FAIR MARKET OFFER TO TAKE IT OVER.
I WOULD SEE THIS TOO, AS SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY WILL BE COMING UP IN THE 44 PLUS MINUS PROPERTIES THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE TAKING OVER FROM THE, UH, FEMA ADJUSTMENTS AS IT IS IN MONTCLAIR.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONE HOUSE OUT, ONE HOUSE UP ONE HOUSE OUT ONE HOUSE HOUSE UP.
I THINK THE RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO ACQUIRE THOSE PROPERTIES, TO ENHANCE THEIR PROPERTY, BUT MAINTAIN AN OPEN SPACE POSITION.
UH, IT'S BEEN DONE IN OTHER TOWNSHIPS.
USUALLY IT'S MUCH LARGER TRACKS.
UH, I KNOW THAT HERE IN THE TOWNSHIP, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT DEVELOPING THAT THE TOWNSHIP IS, HAS ACQUIRED, UH, TAYLOR, THE REST OF ANDERSON, UH, THE HESS TRACK, UH, QUITE LARGE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THAT PLANNING ALSO IN THE IDEA OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING IN LOOKING AT IT.
A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES, AREN'T EVEN PART OF THAT.
I MEAN, IN WHAT WE JUST GONE OVER TO PUT TOGETHER A 10 YEAR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTENANCE ACQUISITION AND THE POSITION OF THE TOWNSHIP 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
AND IF WE CAN GET RESIDENTS TO COME IN AND PICK UP PROPERTY, TITLE IT AS OPEN SPACE AND IT WORKS IN OTHER PLACES, I THINK IT'S FISCALLY A GOOD IDEA FOR THE TOWNSHIP.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NEAR THE PROPERTIES LIKE MYSELF.
UH, WHAT WOULD THAT, UM, RELIEVE THE TOWNSHIP? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE MOWING MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR, WELL, IN FLOODPLAIN IS A LITTLE MORE, UH, BECAUSE WHEN IT HAPPENS, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS TREES OUT.
ALSO, IF IT'S NOT CLEANED UP RIGHT AWAY, WHICH IS HAPPENS WITH THE PROPERTY NEXT TO ME, UH, ONCE IT ISN'T CLEANED UP ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DISPOSE OF TRASH, WE LIVE IN A VERY SECLUDED AREA.
I'VE CLEANED IT UP MANY TIMES, WHETHER IT'S ROOFING, REFRIGERATORS, TVS, AND THE PURPOSE IS ONE OF SELF-INTEREST THAT I WANT IT TO LOOK CLEAN ALL THE TIME.
SO PEOPLE DON'T JUST DRIVE BACK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO IT.
THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE PEOPLE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE TIME ON BIKES WALKING, AND THEY LIKED THE WAY IT LOOKS.
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REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP IS, AND WHEN I SAY I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN OFFER, IF YOU'RE ACQUIRING PROPERTIES, WHATEVER, OBVIOUSLY THIS MONEY WOULD GO TOWARDS WHATEVER PROPERTIES WE ALREADY HAVE TO HELP LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE TOWNSHIP.AND I'VE TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
UM, THERE'S BEEN POSITIVE RESPONSE.
SOME IS, THAT'S NOT THE STANCE WE TAKE HERE.
WE ACQUIRE, WE DON'T GIVE AWAY OR SELL, BUT I THINK WITH THE GREEN SPACE, IT ALWAYS ENDS UP GREEN SPACE, ESPECIALLY IN A FLOOD AREA.
I MEAN, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT CAN BE DONE TO THAT PROPERTY, UM, ANYWHERE WHERE IT FLOODS ALL THE TIME, THAT BECOMES A FINANCIAL BURDEN.
AND IF YOU DO DO SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S PICNIC TABLES, THEY'RE GONE, UH, THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS UNDER 16 FEET OF WATER TWICE IN PAST YEAR AND A HALF.
SO ALL I'M ASKING IS, IS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
AND IF THERE'S A LEGAL WAY OF DOING THIS, WHICH I'M SURE THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S DONE IN OTHER TOWNSHIPS AND IT DOES MAINTAIN IT FOR PERPETUITY AS GREENSPACE THERE'S TWO, WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S THE POLICY LEVEL DECISION, WHICH ISN'T MINE TO MAKE.
THE PRACTICAL CONCERN THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE IS THAT THE TOWNSHIP CAN EASILY BUY PROPERTY, BUT IT CAN'T, IT CAN'T AS EASILY SELL A PROPERTY BECAUSE IT HAS TO SUBJECT IT TO AUCTION.
AND I, IN THAT DISCUSSION, IT BEING FLOODPLAIN, NON DEVELOPABLE, AND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR HAS THREE SEWER WRITEAWAYS ON IT.
SO MY FEAR OF AUCTION IS VERY LIMITED.
UM, I JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE PUBLICLY SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS MY INTEREST AND I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD BE LOOKED AT, IN, LIKE I SAID, THE 44 FEMUR PROPERTIES, THE REASON YOU'RE ACQUIRING THEM IS THEY FLOOD A LOT.
AND IF THERE'S HOUSES AROUND THAT DON'T DO SO MUCH OR NEXT TO THOSE PROPERTIES, THEY MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN PRESERVING IT AS OPEN SPACE.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANYONE RISE
[EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT]
RIGHT NEXT TO RON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON REPORT.UH, THIS BOARD MET IN EXECUTIVE SESSION JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING ABOUT SOME REAL ESTATE MATTERS THAT WE'LL DISCUSS BRIEFLY, UH, UNDER NEW BUSINESS, RIGHT.
AND PR, AND ALSO SOME PERSONNEL MATTERS.
[APPROVAL OF BILL LIST]
APPROVAL OF THE BILL LIST.UH, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AND THANK YOU, TIM, FOR MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO WE DID A LITTLE PIE GRAPH JUST FOR THE TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES.
WE'LL LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHAT OUR, THIS PARTICULAR BILL LIST WAS FROM MARCH 17TH TO APRIL 14TH.
UH, 46% WAS FOR OUR SEWER CAPITAL.
A LOT OF THAT'S FOR OUR 10 DAY RUN PROJECT.
UM, OUR GENERAL FUND, OUR OPERATING COSTS AROUND 37% GENERAL CAPITAL, UM, BE NON SEWER RELATED HUNDRED AND 4,000 ABOUT 11%.
AND THEN OUR SEWER OPERATING WAS ABOUT 6%.
AND THE BILL IS VERY NEGLIGIBLE AMOUNTS.
THIS TIME WENT TO ESCROW AND SOME PARK RELATED EXPENSES AND, UH, THE SEWER MONEY ALL COMES OUT OF THE SEWER FUND.
WELL, IF EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK, I'LL ENTERTAIN MOTION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST MARCH 17TH TO APRIL 14TH, 2022 IN THE AMOUNT OF $958,000, 976 POINT 97.
I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO APPROVE THE BILL LIST FOR THE PERIOD, MARCH 17TH THROUGH APRIL 14TH, 2022 IN THE AMOUNT OF 958,976 AND 97 CENTS.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
AND WE HAD A SET OF MINUTES IN OUR PACKAGE FROM OUR MARCH 21ST REGULAR MEETING.UH, IF ANYBODY, IF THERE'S NO COMMENTS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE THE BOARD'S FEBRUARY, 2020 2, 20 22 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
YEAH, I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY APPROVING MARCH, RIGHT? MARCH.
I THINK SOMEBODY LEFT THAT IN FROM MY THAT'S MY, YEAH, NO WORRIES.
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REGULAR MEETING.THE APPROVAL, THE BOARD'S MARCH 22ND, 2022.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH 21ST, 2022.
[PUBLIC HEARING]
A COUPLE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.THE FIRST ONE UP TONIGHT IS A CONDITIONAL USE HEARING.
AND THIS IS FOR A PROPERTY AT 10 21 EGYPT ROAD.
UM, FOR THE, UH, AS A REMINDER TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME YOU SIT IN A LEGISLATIVE CAPACITY, WHEN YOU HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE HEARING, YOU ARE SITTING IN A JUDICIAL CAPACITY OR AS WE CALL IT QUASI JUDICIAL, SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE ROBES ON.
SO, BUT, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ACTING AS THOUGH YOU DO.
SO THE ISSUE IS WHEN YOU HAVE A ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE ARE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED.
THERE ARE USES THAT ARE PROHIBITED AND IN THE MIDDLE, THERE ARE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IF SOME ADDITIONAL CRITERIA ARE PROVEN.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE ON TONIGHT.
THE M ONE ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR A MEDICAL FACILITY AS A CONDITIONAL USE RATHER THAN AS A FLAT-OUT BY RIGHT USE.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE HEARING, WHICH IS A FORMERLY RECOGNIZED PROCESS UNDER STATE LAW.
UM, THE EXHIBITS THAT WE'LL BE MARKING IN CONNECTION WITH TONIGHT'S HEARING ARE, IS A COPY OF THE LEGAL NOTICE AND A COPY THAT IT WAS PUBLISHED TWICE.
THOSE WILL BE BOARD EXHIBITS ONE AND TWO.
A COPY OF THE APPLICATION WILL BE EXHIBIT WILL BE ADMITTED AS EXHIBIT THREE AND EXHIBIT FOUR WILL BE A COPY OF THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW LETTER, UH, WHICH IS WHICH FAVORS, UH, THE PROJECT.
UH, AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MULLEN ON BEHALF OF APPLICANT, GO USE THIS AND GO BACK AND FORTH.
UH, NICK, WHY DON'T YOU GET SWORN IN BEFORE WE GET STARTED? NICOLAS ADAM AND NICK, WHAT IS YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS? UH, THE BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 10 21 EGYPT ROAD.
AND WHAT IS YOUR OCCUPATION? I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER.
AND WHAT'S YOUR CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION TONIGHT? I OWN THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY IT'S OWNED BY AN LLC.
AND, UH, WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY? UH, 2,650 SQUARE FEET.
IN FACT, IT'S A CONDOMINIUM UNIT, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND WHAT IS THE PRESIDENT USE OF THE PROPERTY? UH, IT'S VACANT.
THERE'S NO ONE IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.
UM, WHAT IS THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION? UH,
DOES THE PROPERTY HAVE PUBLIC SEWER AND PUBLIC WATER? YES, IT DOES.
AND WHAT IS THE PROPOSED USE FOR THE PROPERTY? PEDIATRIC REHABILITATION, SPEECH, PHYSICAL AND OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY FOR CHILDREN.
AND WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE TENANT? UH, IVY REHAB.
NOW, IN FACT, THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES AS MR. PRESIDENT SAID THAT WE OBTAIN A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR A MEDICAL CLINIC FOR THE TREATMENT OF HUMANS.
IS THAT WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT? YES, IT IS.
NOW, IF YOU WERE TO HAVE FOUND A TENANT THAT WAS A LAW FIRM OR AN ACCOUNTING FIRM OR AN INSURANCE AGENT, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE WHERE WE CORRECT.
SO IT'S ONLY BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO BE THE MEDICAL CLINIC THAT WE'RE HERE.
UH, IS PARKING AN ISSUE AT ALL? UH, NO, IT'S NOT.
THERE'S PLENTY OF, AND IN FACT, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES 200 SQUARE FEET, UM, ONE PARKING SPACE PER 200 SQUARE FEET, AND WE HAVE THAT ON THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN.
WE DO, WE DO HAVE THAT APPROVED.
NOW WE THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, THE REVIEW LETTER YOU RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY AND THEY INDICATED THAT THEY THOUGHT YOU SHOULD GET A HIGHWAY OCCUPANCY PERMIT, BUT IN FACT THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING AND NOT HIGHWAY OCCUPANCY PERMIT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
YOU ALSO RECEIVED THE LETTER FROM GILMORE AND ASSOCIATES WHO RECOMMENDED THAT WE PROVIDE FOR ONE HANDICAP PARKING SPACE AND YOU WERE WILLING TO COMPLY WITH THAT OR YOU'RE NOT.
BY THE WAY, UH, MR. MOLE LET'S MAKE THE GILMORE LETTER B FIVE.
A CONDITIONAL USE IS PERMITTED SO LONG AS WE MEET THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 180 2 DASH 2 0 4 OF THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT SETS FORTH THE PROCEDURE FOR CONSIDERATION.
WE DID COMPLY WITH THAT PROCEDURE.
BASICALLY THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.
I THINK IT'S KIND OF SIMPLE IN THE SENSE THAT JUST HAPPENS.
YOUR ORDINANCE SAYS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEDICAL OFFICE, YOU HAVE TO COME HERE
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FOR CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S WHEN NOBODY ELSE DID REVIEW LETTERS.AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT THE, IT STATED AS A CONDITIONAL USE, BUT THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF ADDITIONAL CRITERIA ADDED.
SO THERE, THE BAR IS LOW FOR AS CONDITIONAL USES GO BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXTRA CRITERIA.
LET ME ASK YOU, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAS A QUESTION OR A COMMENT BASED ON THE TESTIMONY AND THE RECORD WILL REFLECT THAT NOBODY INDICATED A BOARD MEMBERS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF THE APPLICANT? UH, JUST BASIC QUESTIONS.
YOU SAID IT WAS A CONDOMINIUM VIEW, IS THAT MEAN IT'S A SECOND LEVEL? THE BUILDING IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND IT'S BEEN CONDOMINIUM DEMISE.
SO I HAVE TWO JOBS ON EDGE DANCE ACADEMY OWNS THESE 7,500 SQUARE FEET.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE REHAB PATIENTS COME IN, ELEVATORS, RAMPS NEEDED HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
ANY OF THAT REQUIRED TO BE DONE.
THERE WAS A RAMP TO GET READY ALL THERE, BUT IT'S ALL ONE FLOOR, SO, OKAY.
UH, ANY OTHER EVIDENCE MR. MOEN? NOPE.
SO APPLICANT RESTS AND THERE IS NOBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT HAS, OH, I'M SORRY.
LET'S GET YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
I WAS INVITED, UH, I'M JUST THE NEIGHBOR OF A GUEST, THE BUSINESS, THE DANCE STUDIO AND THE FACILITY I'M THINK I MET YOU.
SO, UM, I JUST, JUST CURIOUS, WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE I'M JUST THE NEIGHBOR I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR 40 YEARS.
UH, I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR 40 YEARS.
UH, COULD YOU GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN? I WAS JUST 10 0 9, 10 0 9 9 EACH BRO.
I'M IN THE BACK OF THE FACILITY, NEAR FERGUSON, THE OLD FLEMING FOODS.
SO I SEE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON IN OUR DEVELOPMENT THAT PLACE BEEN JUST SITTING THERE AND I WAS JUST WATCHING OVER THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT GOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEWSY, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS LIKE THE SMOKE POT BACK THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN LIKE A NUISANCE.
LIKE I HAD A HOBO LIVING INSIDE THE BUILDING BEFORE IT WAS DEVELOPED, HAD A MATTRESS IN THERE.
UH, NOW THEY GOT A DANCE STUDIO AND THEN I GOT PEOPLE FROM SHEPHERD WATCHING THE DANCING AND DANCE STUDIO I TOLD ON NICK AND ALSO, UH, DAN THE OTHER CO-OWNER AND SAY, GOTTA PUT SOME SHADES OR TINT THE WINDOWS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, IT'S LIKE A SHOW THAT THOUGH WE SHOULDN'T SEE.
OH, WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED MEDICAL FACILITY? IF THERE'S NOT GOING TO STIR ME IN A, I WANT TO STOP THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THE PARKING IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE MALVERN PREP SCHOOL HAS A PARTY AND THEY TAKE THE WHOLE PARKING LOT.
AND, UH, I GUESS IT'S JUST MAYBE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE LEMONADE STAND IS COMING UP THIS SPRING OR SUMMER, OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A PARTY OR SOMETHING? THEY JUST JAM UP THE PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, YOU KNOW, MALVERN PREP SCHOOL.
WELL, IF THAT DEVELOPS INTO A PROBLEM, THE TOWNSHIP WILL TALK TO THEM ABOUT HAVING A PARKING AGREEMENT IF THEY DON'T ALREADY.
AND I TOLD SOMEBODY FROM, UH, FROM THE, UM, THE POOR SUPERVISOR CAME OVER BECAUSE I HAD TO REPLACE A WATER HEATER AND, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO DUMPSTER CLOSE TO MY PROPERTY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SMELL TRASH NEAR MY PROPERTY.
CAUSE IT WAS A CONCRETE SLAB THERE.
AND IT WAS DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE PLACE WAS DEVELOPED IN 2010, I BELIEVE SO.
I JUST, JUST BE CONCERNED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO TROUBLE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S CRAZY PEOPLE LIKE THE PARK IN THE BACK FOR NO REASON, THE WATCH, THE GIRLS DANCE AND I'M, YOU KNOW, REPORTING THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M PLEASED IN THEIR PROPERTY AND THERE'S LIKE SOMEBODY OUT THERE DOING SOMETHING SILLY I'LL FORWARD TO THE POLICE.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND SPEAKING UP ABOUT IT.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO VOTE THIS EVENING ACTUALLY HAVE 45 DAYS.
ALTHOUGH SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS SATISFIED ALL THE CRITERIA OF THE ORDINANCE AND THERE NOT BEING ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, THERE WOULD BE NO REASON NOT TO VOTE THIS EVENING, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU
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TO CALL IT TO A VOTE BILL.IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
I THINK WE'RE READY TO APPROVE THIS SUITE.
YOU'VE BEEN ON OUR AGENDA A COUPLE OF TIMES.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION FOR IVY REHAB LOCATED AT 10 21 EGYPT ROAD, UNIT TWO B PERSONAL NUMBER SIX ONE DASH ZERO DASH 0 1 5 7 9 DASH ZERO TWO DASH SIX.
THE APPROVAL, UH, TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION OF IB REHAB LOCATED ON 10 20 ON EGYPT ROAD, UNIT TWO B PARCEL NUMBER 61 DASH ZERO ZERO DASH 0 1 5 7 9 DASH ZERO TWO DASH SIX.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION FOR IVY REHAB AT 10 21 EGYPT ROAD UNIT TO BE PARCEL NUMBER SIX ONE DASH ZERO DASH 0 1 5 7 9 DASH ZERO TWO DASH SIX.
THAT CONCLUDES THE CONDITIONAL USE HEARING FOR THIS EVENING.
AND THAT BRINGS US DIRECTLY TO OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING.
UH, THIS CONCERNS THE PROPERTY AT 1 27 BRIDGE STREET, WHICH IS WHERE THE LOCKED 29, UM, RESTAURANT IS LOCATED.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO TRANSFER A LIQUOR LICENSE FROM ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTY AND UNDER CURRENT STATE LAW.
UH, THE, THE STATE NOW LOOKS AT LIQUOR LICENSES ON A PULLED BACK LARGER COUNTY BY COUNTY VIEW IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF TOTAL LIQUOR LICENSES, RATHER THAN PURELY ON A MUNICIPALITY BY MUNICIPALITY BASIS.
SO YOU CAN TRANSFER A LIQUOR LICENSE FROM ONE LOCATION IN THE COUNTY TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN THE COUNTY.
UH, AND THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THAT WITH THE STATE ONE PORTION OF WHICH IS A LOCAL PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, UH, NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOTHING CONTRARY TO HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
WE'LL MARK IS BOARD EXHIBIT ONE, THE PROOF OF PUBLICATION OF THE HEARING FOR THIS EVENING, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY PUBLISHED USING THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AS THE MUNICIPALITIES PLANNING CODE, WHICH IS TWICE, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING, WHICH WAS DONE BY STAFF.
AND THAT WILL BE BOARD EXHIBIT ONE.
AND WITH THAT, WE TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.
AND THANK THE BOARD FOR, UM, FOR ENTERTAINING OUR APPLICATION.
I AM CAMP MUTARA AND, UH, I REPRESENT, UH, OUR APPLICANT TONIGHT, WHICH IS A LOCKED 29 LICENSE LLC.
UM, AND AS MR. BRESLIN PROPERLY STATED, UM, IN ORDER TO TRANSFER A LICENSE, UH, INTO A NEW MUNICIPALITY, UH, IN PENNSYLVANIA, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF REQUIREMENTS.
ONE IS THAT THE MUNICIPALITY, THE RECEIVING MUNICIPALITY, UH, BE A MUNICIPALITY THAT PERMITS THE SALE OF ALCOHOL.
UM, THAT IS THE CASE HERE AND UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
UH, THE SECOND BEING THAT THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UH, FOR COMMENT, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, UH, TO DISCUSS THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL.
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES I NORMALLY DO BECAUSE LOCK 29 IS CURRENTLY LICENSED, UH, IT'S LICENSED UNDER MANUFACTURING, UH, STORAGE LICENSE, WHICH IS A PERMITTED USE.
UM, BUT IT'S LIMITED AND WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO, THEY CAN ONLY SELL PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE, THE MANUFACTURER, WHICH IS REBEL HILL RUINED, CORRECT.
UM, THEY CAN ONLY SELL, UM, UH, PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE IN PENNSYLVANIA.
SO IT'S SOMEWHAT LIMITED, PARTICULARLY WITH THINGS LIKE WINES.
UM, WHEREAS IF THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO DIVERSIFY, THEY, THEY WOULD NEED ANY, THEY NEEDED A REGULAR RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE, AND FORTUNATELY WE'VE IDENTIFIED ONE, UM, TO PULL INTO THE TOWNSHIP.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I HAVE, UM, UH, MR. MARTIN HERE AND I'D LIKE TO, UM, ASK HIM SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, SO WHAT WILL YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR WORK? YEP.
SORRY, MR. MARTIN, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I LIVE IN THE TOWNSHIP ON A BURROW LINE ROAD.
UM, AND THE, THE RESTAURANT YOU CURRENTLY OWN LOCK 29.
WHO'S THE ACTUAL OWNER OF IT? UH, UH, YEAH, IT'S A LOCK 29 LLC.
AND THE ADDRESS IS THE ADDRESS THAT, UM, MR. BRITTON, CORRECT? 1 27 BRIDGE STREET.
UH, HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED IT? UH, WE'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR, UH, I THINK ABOUT A YEAR WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS, UH, COUNTING THE FLOOD SIX MONTHS.
UH, CAN YOU GIVE SOME BRIEF HISTORY OF WHAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE HISTORY OF THAT PROPERTY IS? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING
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HAS BEEN A BAR AND RESTAURANT LONG BEFORE, PROBABLY MOST OF US IN THIS ROOM, ESPECIALLY MYSELF.WE'VE ENJOYED LEARNING FROM A LOT OF LOCAL RESIDENTS, THE HISTORY OF THE PLACE, BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALWAYS BEEN A BAR OR A RESTAURANT AND, AND REALLY A BAR, UH, MORE THAN A RESTAURANT IN THE PAST.
AND WE'VE ATTEMPTED TO MAKE IT MORE OF A RESTAURANT.
UM, ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY DID YOU SPEND FIXING THAT? UH, WE'RE UH, MULTIPLE SIX FIGURES, UM, AROUND 250,000 ALL INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WAS BUILDING NEXT DOOR AS WELL.
AND THEN WE OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOSS IN THE FLOOD, WHICH, UH, UH, WE'VE SELF-FINANCED, UH, WAITING FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANY.
SO WE COULD AN ATTEMPT TO GET THE PLACE UP AND RUNNING.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE TRANSFER OF RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE, OUR 1 7 2 7 9 A FOR LOCK 29.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THIS APPLICANT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL BECAUSE IT'S AN, A TRUE YOU'RE ALREADY LICENSED.
UM, SO WHAT DO YOU SELL THERE RIGHT NOW? UH, WE, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE LEGALLY ABLE TO SELL ANY BEER, ALCOHOL, OR WINE THAT IS MANUFACTURED IN PENNSYLVANIA.
SO WE'RE DOING DIFFERENT SPIRITS MADE FROM DIFFERENT DISTILLERS WITHIN PENNSYLVANIA, UH, LOCAL BEERS.
OF COURSE, WE'RE PARTNERED WITH REBEL HILL, AS YOU MENTIONED.
SO WE SELL A LOT OF THEIR PRODUCT AND WE HAVE SOME PENNSYLVANIA MADE WINES AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN ISN'T IT TRUE UNDER THE LIQUOR CODE? 50% OF YOUR SALES THOUGH, HAS TO BE YOUR MANUFACTURER.
YEAH, SO WE HAVE, UH, IN OUR MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, AS YOU MENTIONED, UH, UNDER OUR LICENSE, WHICH IS THROUGH THE LCB, UH, WE ARE, UM, SELLING PREDOMINANTLY REBEL HILL, WHO IS OUR PARTNER UNDER THAT AGREEMENT, UH, THEIR BEER.
SO TELL US, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RESTAURANT.
WHAT IS IT? UH, LOCK 29 IS, IS REALLY A RESTAURANT THAT SELLS ALCOHOL.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAR OR A BAR THAT HAS FOOD.
ABOUT 75% OF OUR SALES THUS FAR GOES TO FOOD.
UM, WE WERE DOING A LOT OF, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE AN UPSTAIRS, WHICH IS, UH, UH, OPEN FLOOR PLAN, OVERLOOKS THE LOWER FLOOR, DOING A TON OF, UH, EVENTS, LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE DOING, WE HAVE ONE TONIGHT WHERE YOU CAN, UH, COME IN AND YOUR LOCAL ORGANIZATION CAN RAISE MONEY.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THAT, UH, THROUGH DIFFERENT EVENTS AT THE PLACE.
WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST IN STAYING UP UNTIL TWO IN THE MORNING.
I'M NOT IN, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN RUNNING THAT KIND OF BUSINESS.
SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE A GASTRO PUB.
UM, WE'RE SIX MONTHS IN NOW STARTING TO TRY DIFFERENT RECIPES AND INCREASE OUR PRODUCTS AND MAKE BETTER FOOD.
AND, UH, WELL, LET ME, LET ME STOP YOU THERE BECAUSE I HAD GIVEN THE, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, A, UH, UM, UH, AN EXHIBIT A, WE CAN MARK THAT AS APPLICANT ONE, I GUESS.
UM, CAUSE WE WANNA TELL US, JUST GO THROUGH IT AND TELL US EVERYBODY, WHAT, WHAT, UM, IS IT LIKE A FIVE PAGE? UH, SURE.
SO YOU WANT ME TO GET A COUPLE OF MENU ITEMS? THE FIRST PAGE IS THE MENU.
UH, WE CHANGE WEEKLY, WE HAVE HAPPY HOUR SPECIALS.
WE'RE DOING BUCCA SHOCK ON TUESDAY NIGHTS AND WE'RE GOING TO INCREASINGLY DO MORE AND MORE THINGS, UH, TO, TO DRIVE TRAFFIC.
THE SECOND PAGE IS THE MURAL WE HAD DONE BY THE LOCAL ARTISTS.
WHO'S DONE A LOT THROUGHOUT PHOENIXVILLE AS WELL.
YOU GUYS WERE, I THINK WE WERE ALL ON A ZOOM FOR THIS ONE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT SOME POINT NEXT PAGE, UH, EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, UM, WHICH LUCKILY WAS, UH, MOSTLY DONE.
UH, WE TOOK OVER THE NEXT PAGE, SHOWS THE BACK OF THE BAR AND THE STONE THAT WE PUT UP, THE SIGNS ACTUALLY LOCALLY MADE BY, UH, THE FAMILY OVER IN SPRING CITY WHO MANUFACTURED ALL OF OUR RAILING.
THEY LASER CUT THAT INTO STEEL FOR US.
AND THEN THE LAST PAGE IS A VIEW FROM THE DOOR LOOKING IN OF THE FIRST FLOOR.
SO YOU RAISED AN INTERESTING POINT.
THIS IS NOT A CHAIN RESTAURANT IS THIS IS NOT A CHAIN RESTAURANT INDEPENDENTLY.
UM, AND, UH, IN ADDITION, ARE YOU SERVING PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE SCOOP OF TRAIL OR CANAL? YES, ESPECIALLY IN THE WARMER MONTHS WE HAVE THE TRAIL RIGHT THERE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE, A LOT OF KAYAKERS.
WE PUT BIKE RACKS UP BECAUSE WE WANTED PEOPLE TO HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THEIR BIKES AS THEY USE THE TRAIL.
UM, LOT OF WALKING TRAFFIC FROM ACROSS THE BRIDGE, AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WAS REALLY AWESOME FOR US TO SEE THE MONTCLAIR FOLKS COME IN.
AND WHILE WE WERE THERE WORKING, JUST WALK AROUND, WANT TO SEE THE PLACE, TELL STORIES.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN WELL ACCEPTED BY, UM, PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HOW BIG IS THE RESTAURANT, THE SQUARE FEET, UH, WHERE LIKE IN THE ACTUAL RESTAURANT, I THINK IT'S LIKE 6,000 AND CHANGE THAT.
HOW MANY SEATS DO YOU HAVE? WE'RE AROUND ONE 50, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT'S A FAMILY APPROPRIATE RESTAURANT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, WOULD THIS CONCEPT WORK WITHOUT A LIQUOR LICENSE? UM, NOT REALLY.
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PEOPLE COME THERE TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY FOOD AND BEVERAGE.UM, YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE A BAR.
YOU SAID NO, THAT'S A RESTAURANT THAT HAPPENS TO SERVE ALCOHOL.
UH, IS IT A CLUB? IT IS DEFINITELY NOT A CLUB.
YOU HAVE DANCING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, WE, THE ONLY MUSIC WE HAVE IS OCCASIONAL ACOUSTIC, ONE MAN BAND KIND OF THINGS.
WE DO HAVE A DECK ALONG THE CANAL.
UM, ANY OTHER OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES? UH, NO, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
UH, WE'RE HONESTLY JUST TRYING TO GET ON OUR FEET.
WE'VE HAD OPEN TWICE IN SIX MONTHS.
WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? UM, MOST DAYS WE'RE 11 TO 10 AND THEN FRIDAY AND SATURDAY IS WE STAY UP UNTIL 11:00 PM.
DO YOUR KITCHEN HOURS MIRROR THE BAR HOURS? YES.
IF WE'RE OPEN, WE'RE MAKING FOOD.
UH, ABOUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE YOU EMPLOYING THERE? UH, W W WE HAVE A LOT OF, OF COURSE PART-TIME YOUNGER EMPLOYEES, BUT IT'S USUALLY BETWEEN 30, 35 PEOPLE, ROUGHLY.
UM, ANDREW, YOUR MANAGERS AND SERVERS HAVE ANY SPECIAL TRAINING? UH, YES.
I'VE RAMPED TRAINING, UM, AND RAMP IS RESPONSIBLE ALCOHOL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM? CORRECT.
UM, HOW DO YOU TAKE THE SERVICE OF ALCOHOL? VERY SERIOUSLY.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, HAVE YOU EVER GOTTEN A CITATION IN YOUR MONTHS THAT YOU'VE BEEN OPEN? WE HAVE NOT.
UH, IS THERE ADDITIONAL LICENSING AGREEMENT ON THAT BUILDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN ON A CONDITIONAL? OH, NO, NO, NO, NO.
A LOT OF ACRONYMS DOES, UH, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL LOCK 29 HAVING A FULL LIQUOR LICENSE ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY WELFARE FOR USE FOR MORALS OF THE COMMUNITY.
NOW, UH, WILL THERE BE ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS? NO.
UM, AND WILL IT PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT? YES, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF THE WITNESS AND THE RECORD WILL INDICATE NOBODY INDICATED, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAD DINNER THERE ON PALM SUNDAY WITH MY WIFE AND, UH, THE CHEESEBURGER WAS EXCELLENT.
AND MY WIFE RAVED ABOUT THE SEARED A HI, I EAT TUNA SALAD, SO VERY GOOD, MR. MARTIN, HOWEVER, THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WANTING TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET COFFEE.
THAT'S A LONG STORY, BUT WE HAVE THE MACHINE.
DID YOU SAY, ARE THE BUCKETS SHUCK ON TUESDAYS OYSTERS? WE'VE BEEN, YES, WE HAVE.
ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOG OR IS YOUR DOG FRIENDLY ON THE OPEN DECK? YES, WE ARE.
UH, THE BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME WE WERE UP IN ONE OF WAS WARM.
YOU WOULDN'T CALL IT A, I JUST HAD A QUICK, SO YOU'VE MENTIONED, AND THIS IS MORE FOR PROBABLY MEANT MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT THAT THE LIQUOR CONTROL BOARD SAID THAT 50% OF YOUR LIQUOR SALES HAD TO BE REBEL HILL LICENSE.
UH, SO WHEN YOU, WHEN THIS ONE COMES IN THAT ONE EXPIRES, IS THAT THE WAY IT KIND OF HAPPENED? YEAH, I DO.
ONCE THIS LICENSE BECOMES ACTIVE, THE STORAGE FACILITY GOES WITH THE STORAGE LICENSE GOES AWAY.
UH, IT GOES BACK TO REBEL HILL AKI.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT TRAN NOW THAT TRANSITIONS.
AND HOW LONG IF WE PROVE THAT YOU JUST GET YOUR LIQUOR LICENSE RIGHT AWAY, OR IS THERE A LONGER PROCESS AFTER THIS? SHE GETS THOSE SILLY, SO IT CAN BE, UM, UH, IT CAN BE FICKLE.
I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO HAPPEN TOMORROW.
UM, WELL THEY SAY IT'S A MINIMUM FOUR WEEKS OR THE 30 DAY POSTING REQUIREMENT, UM, THAT THEY, THEY SAY AT LEAST THEY ALLOW EIGHT TO 12 WEEKS.
I'VE DONE SIX, BUT, UM, THAT THAT'S RARE FOR THE SUMMER.
JUST AS A POINT OF INTEREST, WHERE'S THIS LICENSE COMING FROM, IT'S COMING FROM, UH, IF YOU KNOW, OR TINO'S NORTH SIDE UP THERE ON 29.
ZIGLAR'S VILLE, I THINK IS THE ADDRESS.
IT'S COMING AROUND, DOWN, STRAIGHT DOWN THE PIKE.
UH, AND MORE DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD.
UH, RAISE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE INTER MUNICIPAL LIQUOR LICENSE TRANSFER HEARING FOR LOCK 29 LICENSE LLC LOCATED AT 1 27 BRIDGE STREET.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INNER MUNICIPAL LIQUOR LICENSE TRANSPORT FOR, FOR LOCK 29
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ALL RIGHT.CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 14.
APPROVING THE TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD, SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION PLANNING MODULE.
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, THIS IS FOUR FIVE HOMES, UM, OFF OF TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD, UM, NEAR RIDGE PIKE.
IT'S IN A SORT OF AN ALLEY SITUATION OUT THERE.
THERE'S, UH, TWO HOMES AT FRONT, UH, TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.
AND THE OTHER THREE ARE ON THE ALLEY THAT WOULD BE SERVED, UM, TO APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PROJECT.
UM, IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND DP REQUIRES THE TOWNSHIPS ACT 5 37 PLAN TO BE REVISED.
AND WHEN BURDENS WITH THIS PLANNING MODULE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING BY RESOLUTION FOR THEM TO CONSIDER THIS AS A VIABLE PROJECT FOR THEM.
SO, UH, THIS WOULD THEN GO TO DEP FOR THEIR BLESSING AND PROBABLY 90 DAYS FROM NOW, YOU MIGHT GET A LETTER APPROVING IT, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADVERTISING AND BIDDING OF THE PROJECT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
UH, ASSUMING WE HAVE ALL NECESSARY EASEMENTS.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL MOVE TO, UH, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 14, APPROVING THE TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD, SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION PLANNING MODULE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 14, APPROVING THE TOWNSHIP LINE, ROSE SANITARY, SEWER EXTENSION PLANNING, MODULE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.
RIGHT? CONSIDER APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL.
AND WE ONLY HAVE TWO NAMES PUT FORWARD SO FAR, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO AT LEAST A THIRD FROM PARKS AND REC.
AND THEN, UH, THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS AT LARGE, IF ANYONE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THIS COUNCIL.
UM, THE TWO MEMBERS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED AS WILL BE BILL CASPER FOR ME, THEN THIS BULL AUTHORITY, UH, BOARD AND TOM WRIGHT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPOINT BILL CASPER FROM MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY BOARD AND TOM WRIGHT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UM, BILL, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT CAN WE ALL AGREE? I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO BACK ON THE RECORD OR ANYTHING WITH IT, BUT THE, THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE LIQUOR LICENSE TRANSFER WAS ALSO AN AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION THAT THEY PREPARED.
SO THERE'S A FORM RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SIGN.
SO THE VOTE ALSO INCLUDES YOU SIGNING.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.
CHERYL WILL GET US ATTENDING THE MEETING.
CHERYL JUST TEXTED ME TO KEEP ME STRAIGHT.
I WOULDN'T BE ASKING YOU THE QUESTION, ACTUALLY.
I KNOW WHO RUNS THINGS RIGHT HERE.
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CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 15, ALLOWING FOR THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AT THE, UH, AT THE UP, UH, EXCLAMATION POINT MUSIC FEST.UM, WE HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE AGAINST THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN OUR PARKS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO, UH, FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, WE GENERALLY GRANT THIS.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH MR. TEPERMAN IN YEARS PAST WITH THIS OR CHIEF.
WE COMBINE SEVEN AND EIGHT SINCE.
IT'S TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS, BUT YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
WITH THOSE WORDS, CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 20 22 15, ALLOWING THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES DURING THE TOWNSHIP ANIMAL UPP MUSIC FEST, AS WELL AS CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 20 22 16.
ALSO ALLOWING THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL DURING THE TOWNSHIPS COMMUNITY DAY ON SEPTEMBER, OR EXCUSE ME, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 15TH, 2022.
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THAT.I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 15, ALLOWING FOR ALCOHOLIC CONSUMPTION OUR CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES DURING THE TOWNSHIPS UPA MUSIC FEST, JUNE 4TH, 2022 AND RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 16.
ALSO ALLOWING FOR CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES DURING THE TOWNSHIPS COMMUNITY DAY ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 15TH, 2022, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALSO, IF IT REDUCES THE STRESS LEVEL AT ALL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THE MOTION.
UH, ITEM NUMBER NINE UNDER OLD BUSINESS IS CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 17, SUPPORTING THE AMERICA 250 PA EFFORTS TO COMMEMORATE THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE UNITED STATES IN THE YEAR 2026.
UH, THIS WAS A RESOLUTION THAT CAME TO US FROM, UH, EAST SITES AND MACADO IT'S.
I DON'T THINK IT COMES WITH ANY STRINGS ATTACHED.
IT'S JUST, WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT, UH, AMERICA'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, UH, OUR 250TH IN 2026.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, CONSIDER ADOPTING A CONSIDERED OPTION OF RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 17, SUPPORTING THE AMERICAN AMERICA TWO 50 PA EFFORTS TO COMMEMORATE THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY IN THE UNITED STATES IN 2026.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT WAS EASY JOB.
CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 18, AUTHORIZING THE TOWNSHIP MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH MCMAHON ASSOCIATES FOR THE DESIGN OF INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT THE DRY ROAD, ROUTE ONE 13 AND SECOND AVENUE INTERSECTION IN THE AMOUNT, IN, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $249,800.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THE PROPOSED WORDING IS A MERGER.
SO I ASSUME EVERYONE SAW THAT.
UM, AND WE, UH, WE, WE RECEIVED THE GRANT FOR THIS.
CASEY, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE IT, THIS WAS A CFA GRANT, CORRECT.
AND THAT'S THE, FOR THE DESIGN PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
IT'S FOR THE DESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT THIS INTERSECTION, ALSO EXTENDING TO THE STRUCTURE THAT, UH, HAS THE NARROW STRUCTURE TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE PROJECT.
AND THIS IS FOR ALL THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING THROUGH THE CFA GRANT.
UM, AND I ASKED THE SOLICITOR TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION, UH, FOR, THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET.
IF YOU PASS THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION WITH ANY REGULARITY, IT'S, IT'S A MENACE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS THING REPAIRED NOW WITH SOME OF THIS MONEY.
UM, IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVED TO, UH, ADOPT RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 18, AUTHORIZING THE TOWNSHIP MANAGER TO EXECUTE A SERVICE AGREES.
YOU MEANT WITH MCMAHON ASSOCIATES FOR THE DESIGN OF INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, BIBLE-BASED ROAD, ROUTE ONE, 13 AND SECOND AVENUE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 249,800.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UH, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE TOWNSHIP MANAGER, UH, TO SUSPEND THE COVID 19 EMPLOYEE VACCINATION AND TESTING POLICY AND MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, PAR MANAGER REPORT, UM, UH, THE VARIANT, THE COVID VARIANT THAT REQUIRED OUR INITIAL POLICY, UM, DID NOT REALLY ADDRESS THE BOOSTERS.
AND I THINK, UH, THE, THE, THE VIRUS IS BECOMING A BLESSING, LESS VIOLENT, AND, UM, MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE EITHER GOTTEN VACCINATED OR HAVE BEEN INFECTED.
AND, UH, WE THINK IT'S TIME TO FOLLOW THE LEAD.
AND I HAD TALKED TO THE SOLICITOR ABOUT WHETHER WE, UM, UM, ELIMINATE THE POLICY OR AN, I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION JOE, IS THAT WE SUSPENDED THE POLICY FROM FURTHER ENFORCEMENT.
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I'M JUST, I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS MOTION AND, UH, JUST TO CLEAN THINGS UP, BUT, UH, I STILL ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC TO GET THEIR VACCINATION AND TO GET THEIR BOOSTERS ON TIME.I'M GOING TO GET MY SECOND BOOSTER THIS WEEK.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT BEEN SICK THROUGHOUT THIS.
I'VE HAD FAMILY MEMBERS SICK WITH IT.
UH, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GET VACCINATED AND IT DOES WORK.
SO I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT IT.
SO WHEN YOU SUSPENDED IS THE REASON WHY YOU'RE SPENDING AND NOT JUST TAKING IT AWAY AS IN CASE WE NEED TO REJUVENATE IT QUICKLY, WE CAN, AND THEN YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE THEN YOU'RE NOT RENEGOTIATING IT WITH THE EMPLOYEES WITH REGARDING ITS TERMS, ESPECIALLY SINCE, AS YOU NOTICE.
I MEAN, THE TONIGHT SIXERS GAME HAS PEOPLE IN MASKS, UH, JUST DOWN THE STREET.
I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE, BUT IT'S STILL AROUND ENOUGH THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SUSPEND IT AND NOT COMPLETELY MAKE IT GO AWAY.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWNSHIP MANAGER TO SUSPEND THE COVID-19 EMPLOYEE VACCINATION AND TESTING POLICY.
I HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE.
AND CINDER APPROVING AN AGREEMENT WITH FRIENDSHIP, AMBULANCE TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES FROM THE NEW FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES FACILITY ON BLACKROCK ROAD.
AND DID WE ADDRESS IN THE, UH, UH, OKAY.
SO HAVE WE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN LATE, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY HIRED THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DOING THIS.
THE AGREEMENT ADDRESSES THAT ISSUE TO THE EXTENT THAT IN ORDER TO PLACE AN ADDITIONAL ALS UNIT AT OUR FACILITY, UH, CHIEF GUILIANO WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE HIRED AN ADDITIONAL EMT AND PARAMEDIC.
AND THROUGH THAT AGREEMENT, WE'VE AGREED TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THE EXPENSES THEY INCUR FROM APRIL 1ST.
AND WE INTENDED TO OPEN THROUGH THE ACTUAL OPENING DATE FOR THOSE LABOR COSTS.
CAN I ASK ABOUT THAT THOUGH? SO IF WE'RE PAYING FOR THE PERSON, RIGHT, AND, AND THE SERVICE WOULD THAT PERSON THEN BE IN OUR TOWNSHIP TIME BEING NO, THEY, THEY BROUGHT THEM ON BOARD, UH, EARLY IN THE YEAR, ANTICIPATING THE BUILDING BEING OPEN, READY TO GO APRIL 1ST DELAYS HAPPENED AND TALK ABOUT THAT ALL NIGHT LONG, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO MAKE THEM WHOLE FOR, FOR WHAT, WHAT THEY REVENUE.
THEY MAY HAVE LOST IF THEY WOULD'VE BEEN OPERATING IN THE BUILDING AND OPERATING AS OF APRIL 1ST, THAT AMBULANCE, THAT MEDIC UNIT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOING ON EMS CALLS FOR WHICH THEY COULD HAVE BILLED FOR AND BEEN MADE WHOLE THROUGH THE BILLING PROCESS.
WE'VE OFFERED TO MAKE THEM WHOLE, UM, THROUGH THE TOWNSHIP FUNDING.
THAT DIFFERENCE SINCE THEY'RE NOT OPERATING YET, BUT, UH, BERTRAND AMBULANCE IS STILL INCURRING THAT COST.
I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE SERVICE ALREADY WHERE OUR RESIDENTS SEE THAT SERVICE IN ANY WAY EMOTIONAL SERVICES WE'RE PAYING, I GUESS, GEORGE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE STATIONED PRESENTLY.
MAYBE YOU CAN COMMENT ON THAT.
SO THE DIFFICULTY IS GOING TO BE IS, IS THE WAY THE RUN PROCEDURES HAPPEN.
SO ONCE WE'VE NOW DECIDED AND ATTACHMENTS SIDED WITH CHIEF
SO THE ANSWER, YOUR QUESTION IS WE NECESSARILY CAN'T COME IN AND PROVIDE A SERVICE AND THEN GO BACK, YOU KNOW, AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK, PER SE, BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO WAY OF HOUSING UNIT 24 7.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT REALLY MORE I CAN ANSWER FOR YOUR QUESTION, CAUSE WE'RE NOT COMING IN ON THE APRIL 1ST START DATE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WAY FOR THAT TO OCCUR.
SO THE TOWNSHIP'S NOT GETTING FRIENDSHIP AMULETS UNTIL THE BUILDING'S COMPLETE IT'S IT'S COST A RIGHT.
SO WE'VE ALREADY INITIATED PERSONNEL THINKING AN APRIL 1ST START DATE.
AND IT'S, IT'S UNFAIR FOR ME TO GO YOU'RE NOW UNEMPLOYED AND LOSE THAT POTENTIAL.
AND I'M NOT EVEN MAKING THAT ARGUMENT.
I THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE MUNICIPALITY.
AS FAR AS THE RESIDENTS GETTING A SERVICE THAT CAN COME INTO PLAY UNTIL THE BUILDING'S COMPLETE, BUT THERE'S OTHER PROVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT, UM, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO STEP IN AS SOON AS IT'S READY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY HERE.
THEY'RE JUST NOT OPERATING HERE.
THEY'RE JUST OPERATING UNDER THE REGULAR SERVICES OR YOU'RE CARRYING EXTRA STACKS.
YOU'RE FROM THE GREEN STREET LOCATED.
WE'RE OUT OF, I MEAN THERE THEY'RE EMPLOYMENT, FRIENDSHIP EMAILS DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF NEED FOR FULL-TIME STAFF GOING BACK IN SOME HISTORY HERE.
WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE DURING THE FIVE YEARS WE GAVE OUR PRESENTATIONS.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A LOT OF PART-TIME STAFF.
WE WERE THIS ANOMALY JUST WORK FOR PART-TIME STAFF.
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WITH THE FULL-TIME, UM, AND KNOWING THE VOLUME THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO INCREASE BY TAKING THEM ON A TOWNSHIP.IT REQUIRED US TO STAFF UP TO SIX PEOPLE TOTAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE PARAMEDICS AND THREE MTS FULL-TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO FOUR PARAMEDICS AND FOR EMT, THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITIONAL CAME IN AT.
SO IT WILL BE A FOUR PERSON, YOU KNOW, EIGHT PERSON, UM, ROTATION ON A PLATOON.
BUT THAT STAFFING WAS WHAT REQUIRED THE INCREASE FOR THE TANTRUM CALLS WERE EXPECTED.
AND WHEN DID THEY START? WHEN DID THEY START? I STARTED ACTUALLY MARCH BECAUSE I ANTICIPATED THEM LEARNING TOWNSHIP.
SO THERE'S A BETTER RESPONSE, UM, KNOWING THEM DUE TO GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
UM, SO WE'RE TAKING MARCH TO APRIL, APRIL IS SUPPOSED TO BE TO START DATE.
SO APRIL ON WOULD BECOME THE TOWNSHIP'S RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THE AGREEMENT.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING WE APPROVE EVERY MONTH OR IS THIS UNTIL IT GETS OPERATING THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT WOULD, IT WOULD CONTINUE UNTIL THEY'RE OPERATING.
UM, IN THE EVENT THAT THE FIREHOUSE HAS DELAYED SUBSTANTIALLY, UH, CHIEF RUSSELL'S ALREADY BEEN LOOKING INTO RENTING A, UM, TRAILER THAT COULD BE PLACED OVER THERE, LIKE AN OFFICE TRAILER THAT THEY COULD OPERATE OUT OF.
AND WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE ANTICIPATED DATE NOW, DO WE KNOW SHE'S A LOADED QUESTION.
THANKS FOR THE, BUT AS SOON AS THE TRUCK GETS HERE FROM WACO, TEXAS, WITH THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS THAT ARE MISSING, AT LEAST WE KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING, IS IT DEFINITELY COMING? BUT WE'RE TOLD IT'S SHIT.
AND WHAT'S THE MONTHLY EXPENSE, JUST SO IT'S TRANSPARENT.
HOW MUCH IS IT? IS IT FOR THAT? IT'S PROBABLY IN THE PACKET.
WHAT WAS IT? YEAH, I DON'T, I DIDN'T BRING THEM BACK TO WORK, BUT IT'S 800 BUCKS.
AND THEN THAT INCLUDES THE SALARIES AND THE BENEFITS.
AND THEN WHEN THERE'S AN AGREEMENT OF SALE PREPARED, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK FOR AUTHORIZATION TO SIGN.
UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR OLD, A NEW BUSINESS AND,
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UH, WE'RE DOWN TO MANAGER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD REPORTS.MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP OUR BOS TASK TRACKER UPDATED.
I THINK THE ONE THAT IS, IS GETTING THE MOST ACTIVITY, UM, IS THE STATUS OF THE FLOOD GAUGES.
AND I'VE ASKED, UH, CHIEF RUSSELL TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT WE'VE KIND OF SUSPENDED, UM, DELAYED BY A COUPLE OF DAYS, OUR TOWNSHIP NEWSLETTER, UH, TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION ON THERE.
AND THEN WHILE CHIEF'S UP THERE, HE HAS SOME COMMENTS TO SAY ABOUT, UM, THE RECENT, UM, ENTITIES OR GOOD EVENING.
AM I ON? UM, SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THE GOOD NEWS IS YEAH, THE FLOOD GAUGES ARE ONLINE.
UM, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S MOUNTED ON THE BRIDGE AT 29 AND MY CLAIR AND THE SECOND IS MOUNTED ON THE BRIDGE ON OUR COLLAR ROAD.
UM, THE WAY THEY WORK AS A FACEDOWN AND THEY READ THE WATER LEVEL ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
SO IF YOU READ THE GAUGE THAT'S ONLINE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE AT LIKE 73 FEET OR 84 FEET, THAT'S ACTUALLY ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
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SO THE COMPLICATING PART ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WAY WE PRESENT IT ON THE WEBSITE IT'S IS USER-FRIENDLY TO THE PUBLIC.UM, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THERE'S SOME 10-YEAR MARKS, SOME HUNTING YEAR MARKS AND THEY SHOW DIFFERENT LEVELS ON THERE, BUT THEY REALLY DON'T CORRELATE, UM, IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE TO THE PUBLIC.
SO WE'VE BEEN THE GUYS FROM AN OUT, TAKING A LOT OF ELEVATIONS, UM, SOME APPS.
AND WE WANT TO COMPARE THAT WITH THE TOWNSHIP ENGINEER TO COME BACK AND KIND OF GET A, FEEL THE BEST WAY TO PRESENT AND PUT IT OUT THE INFORMATION.
SO IT MAKES SENSE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND WE THINK THAT THE EASIEST WAY IS GOING TO BE, TO TAKE ELEVATIONS DIRECTLY PARALLEL TO, UH, TO WHERE THE TWO FLOOD GAUGES ARE AND ALLOW THAT TO BE THE ONLY INFORMATION THAT WE PUT OUT BECAUSE OF, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE RIVER AND THE CREEK MOVES, THEY CHANGE ELEVATION.
SO THE SEA LEVEL IS DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU HAPPEN TO BE.
SO IF WE SAY THAT AT 74 FEET, IT'S FLOODING IN MONTCLAIR, THAT'S, DOESN'T CORRELATE TO 74 FEET, THREE BLOCKS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE RIVER RUNS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE HOLDUP RIGHT NOW.
IT'S JUST THE, JUST TO KIND OF TWEAK THAT LAST LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TO HOW WE WANT TO GET THAT OUT.
UM, AND I ANTICIPATE THAT SOME POINT WITHIN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE DAYS, THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETE.
UH, THE NARRATIVE IS WRITTEN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT LAST INFORMATION TO PUT ON THE, ON OUR, ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, THE STAFF HAVE ALL GONE THROUGH THE READY MAKO TRAINING.
SO WE ARE READY TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING AND PUT THAT OUT THERE.
SO, UM, THE, THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT THE FLOOD GAUGES ARE GOING TO MAKE NOTIFICATIONS TO ACTUALLY WHOEVER WE WANT TO PUT ON THE LIST, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, BRIAN MYSELF.
UM, AND WE WOULD THEN BE ABLE THROUGH THE READY MANCHOW, MAKE ALERTS TO ANY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR IT.
AND WE WOULD ALSO PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE THROUGH, UH, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR THAT WOULD GO ON THE FACEBOOK, ANY OTHER NOTIFICATIONS WE HAD.
SO AS SOON AS WE GET ANY INDICATION WHATSOEVER, AND IT WOULDN'T JUST COME FROM OUR FLOOD GAUGES, IT, IT COMES FROM, UM, WHAT WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THE COUNTY, WHAT WE'RE GETTING THROUGH TO NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WHILE WE'RE GETTING FROM THE DIFFERENT GAUGES THAT ARE ALSO, UH, OUT THERE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF INPUT THAT WE TAKE.
AND FROM THAT, WE'LL MAKE A DECISION TO PUT OUT, UH, TH THE THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF, OF ALERTS THAT WE WANT TO PUT OUT TO THE PEOPLE.
AND ONE IS ANTICIPATION THAT THE FLOODING IS NOW OCCURRING.
ONE IS THAT IT'S REALLY TIME TO START THE LEAVE.
AND THE THIRD IS YOU PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT BY NOW.
UM, BUT YOU, YOU NEED TO LEAVE.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MORE SUBTLE THAN THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE.
UM, WE'VE ALSO POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, THE PROCUREMENT CREEK, UH, EAST GREENVILLE FLOOD GAUGE IT'S FROM THE U S GS AND THE ONE AT GRATERFORD.
SO THEY HAVE THERE'S REFERENCES GOING UP RIVER, AND WE PLACED ON THE SKULL, THE POTTSTOWN AND THE NORTH SAND FLOOD GAUGES, AGAIN, TO TRY AND PROVIDE SOME SORT OF REFERENCE.
SO IN COMBINATION WITH OUR GAUGES, ALTHOUGH THEY READ A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, THEY READ AND FEET, A WATER LEVEL AND FEED BECAUSE THE GAUGES ARE ACTUALLY COMING UP INSTEAD OF OURS POINTING DOWN, UM, WHICH IS WHY WE WANT TO MAKE OURS, UH, READ USER MORE USER-FRIENDLY.
SO I THINK WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
UM, I THINK WITHIN, WITHIN A WEEK, MAYBE SOONER, UM, I WILL MEET TOMORROW.
I THINK THAT TRY AND FINISH OUT WHAT, WHERE WE'RE AT AND, AND WE SHOULD BE, HOPEFULLY I WON'T HAVE TO REPORT ON THIS IN MAY.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE SCHOOL DOESN'T NORMALLY FLASH FLOOD, I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS THE BIGGEST, THAT IT WASN'T JUST THE WATER LEVEL.
IT WAS THE AMOUNT OF RAIN IN THE TIME AND HOW QUICKLY THE RIVER ROSE, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT AGNES BEING THE BREEDING ASSESSOR TO THIS ALMOST 50 AGO.
AND EVEN DURING THAT, THAT TOOK AN ENTIRE WEEK OF RAIN TO FLOOD THE RIVER THE WAY IT DID THIS TIME, WE DID IT IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS.
SO IT'S WHY THESE GAUGES ARE IMPORTANT AND WHY FOLKS ARE NERVOUS AND RIGHTLY SO, I LIVE IN THE FLOOD.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE SECOND PAGE HERE, IT HAS THE HYDROGRAPH AND THAT'S A 24 HOUR SNAPSHOT OF WHERE THE, WHERE THE WATER LEVELS ARE, AND THAT WILL REMAIN, UM, THE THIRD PAGE WE MAY TAKE OFF OR, OR MODIFY THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO EDIT.
UH, BUT THAT HYDROGRAPH WILL REMAIN BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY IS THE BEST INDICATION OF WHAT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE THE CHART AND IT'S GOING LIKE THIS, IT'S MOVING REALLY FAST AND THINGS ARE REALLY HAPPENING MUCH QUICKER THAN
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WE'RE USED TO.BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S A MORE GRADUAL GRANT, IT'S EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO, UH, PAY ATTENTION, TO KNOW THAT WHAT'S GOING ON.
IT'S, IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT ONES WHERE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PERKIOMEN, UM, THREE YEARS AGO, THEY HAD IN 2019, THEY HAD HEAVY RAIN, EIGHT OR 10 INCHES OF RAIN UP IN THE GILBERTSVILLE AREA AND, AND THE EAST GREENVILLE AND PALM AREA WHERE THE PERKIOMEN CREEK ORIGINATES.
AND, AND THAT HAPPENED ABOUT TWO OR THREE IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND BY NINE O'CLOCK DOWN HERE, WE WERE GETTING FLOODING REALLY, REALLY BAD, AND IT DIDN'T RAIN HERE.
SO THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO INDICATION WHATSOEVER.
I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, SEVEN 30 OR EIGHT.
O'CLOCK THE RAIN AT THE WATER HIT HERE.
AND IF IT, IF YOU WEREN'T WATCHING, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS HAPPENING BECAUSE IT DIDN'T RAIN, RAIN UP RIVER, AND IT TOOK FOUR HOURS TO GET HERE.
AND WHEN IT DID, IT HIT US HARD IN AN INSTANCE LIKE THAT, BUT THERE BE SOMEBODY AT THE TOWNSHIP THAT WOULD BE REALIZED THAT SO WE'LL GET THE NOTIFICATION OFF THE FLOOD GAUGES, THE ADVANTAGE TO, TO ALL OF US THAT ARE IN THE PUBLIC SERVICES THAT WE, UM, MONITOR AND HEAR AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
UM, WE LIVE WITH SCANNERS ON ALL THE TIME.
SO, UM, WE, WE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WE KNEW OF ALL THE WATER RESCUES THAT WERE HAPPENING THAT DAY.
UH, WE MONITOR THE WESTERN AND THE COUNTY, THE POLICE DEAL.
WE ALL, WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON UP THERE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THERE'S AN INDICATION WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE GETTING THAT MUCH RAIN OR SOMETHING IS OCCURRING UP THERE, THAT'S COMING YOUR WAY LATER ON.
SO, UM, BECAUSE JUST BY VIRTUE OF, OF OUR OCCUPATIONS, THAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF ON TOP OF THAT ALREADY.
NOT ALWAYS THE FAVOR OF OUR WIVES, BUT IT'S KIND OF THE WAY IT WORKS.
SO CHIEF, I THINK THE KEY IS TO GET EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA ON THE SYSTEM, RIGHT? SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THE TEXTS AND YOU'RE DOING, AREN'T YOU DOING A SWEEP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHICH ACTUALLY THE SATURDAY WE'RE DOING, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE SECOND PART THAT I WAS GOING THROUGH THE SATURDAY, WE'RE DOING A SMOKE ALARM INSTALLATION BLITZ THROUGH THE MONTCLAIR IN PORT PROVIDENCE AREA.
IT'LL START AT NINE O'CLOCK, UH, IN COOPERATION WITH BLACKROCK AND THE RED CROSS, WE'VE ACQUIRED A LOT OF, UH, THE TENURE LIFECYCLE SMOKE DETECTORS.
AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, I THINK SIX CREWS THAT'LL BE WORKING, UH, ACTUALLY IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, UH, INSTALLING THE FREE SMOKE DETECTORS IN ANYBODY'S HOUSE THAT WAS AFFECTED BY THE FLOODS DOWN THERE, PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE SAME TIME AS HANDING OUT INFORMATION TO THEM ON THE READY MAKO SYSTEM, HOW THEY SHOULD REGISTER, WHY THEY SHOULD REGISTER AND THE BENEFITS OF GETTING ONTO THAT PROGRAM, THAT, THAT THE READY MANCHA IS GOING TO BE OUR MEANS OF COMMUNICATING WITH THEM.
YOU CAN GET A PHONE CALL, YOU CAN GET AN EMAIL, YOU CAN GET A TEXT, A WHATEVER, WHATEVER METHOD THEY CHOOSE.
UM, AND TO WHAT EXTENT OF, UH, UH, NOTIFICATIONS THEY GET.
SO IT WON'T JUST BE LIMITED TO FLOODING IN THE MONTCLAIR.
I CAN USE IT FOR ANYTHING THROUGHOUT THE TOWNSHIP.
UM, ABINGTON USES IT FOR, FOR VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING.
UM, AND I THINK I SEE THE TOWNSHIP APPEAR AS WE BUILD THIS PROGRAM.
UH, REALLY HAVING A LOT OF ADVANTAGES TO GETTING OUR MESSAGES OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT PUSHES THEN TO GET THE PEOPLE, TO THE REGISTER, TO SIGN UP FOR IT.
SO THAT, THAT WILL, THAT WILL OCCUR SATURDAY.
UH, SO YES, THANK YOU, UH, FOR, FOR THAT AND, AND PUTTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE SMOKE DETECTOR BLITZ THAT'LL BE COMING OUT TOMORROW ALSO, UM, THAT, THAT THEY KIND OF JUMPED UP ON US.
UM, IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH, SO I HAVE ONE OTHER THING THEN, IF, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT.
UM, SO ON MARCH 21ST TROOPERS, BRANDON SISKA AND MARTIN MAC, ALONG WITH THE CIVILIAN WERE TRAGICALLY AND SENSELESSLY KILLED WHEN THEY WERE STRUCK BY A DRUNK DRIVER ON I, 95, AS YOU ARE AWARE OF BRANDON WAS THE FIRE CHIEF OF TRAP OUR COMPANY.
AND PRIOR TO STARTING WITH THE STATE POLICE, A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WITH UPPER PROVENANCE REMAINING AS A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE AND A FRIEND TO MANY, AND THE TWO WEEKS FOLLOWING HIS DEATH, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND TIME WAS NEEDED TO PROVIDE THE TRIBUTE AND SERVICE THAT WAS DUE TO BRANDON TRAP BAR COMPANY WAS OUT OF SERVICE, WHICH LEFT BOTH TRAPPED BOROUGH AND A LARGE PORTION OF UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP LACKING FIRE PROTECTION.
A REQUEST WAS MADE TO OUR NEIGHBORING FIRE COMPANIES AND THE OFFERS OF ASSISTANCE WERE OVERWHELMING FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
SWITCHING EVERY SIX HOURS, A LADDER TRUCK FROM 38 DIFFERENT FIRE COMPANIES FROM SIX DIFFERENT COUNTIES SAID BUYING COLLEGE WITH OUR COMPANY TO COVER TRAP AND UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP.
ON THE DAY OF BRANDON'S VIEWING OUR SOUND, SENT THEIR PAID CREW TO STAND BY IN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR US ON SATURDAY 10 FAR COMPANIES FROM THREE COUNTIES COVERED THE 14 AREA DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE OUT OF SERVICE WHILE THE FELLOW FIREFIGHTERS ATTENDED HIS FUNERAL.
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OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS A LARGE PART OF THE PLANNING, SCHEDULING COORDINATION AND PARTICIPATION IN THE SERVICES.EVERYBODY STEPPED UP VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME TO HELP TRAP VISIT WITH BRANDT BRITTANY AND HER FAMILY AND WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WENT RIGHT.
I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK AND RECOGNIZE ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP POLICE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND RECREATION COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE HELPFUL WHEN WE NEEDED IT THE MOST.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU, THE SUPERVISORS AND THE PUBLIC FOR LENDING YOUR SUPPORT TO US.
SO WE COULD COMMIT OUR SUPPORT, THE BRITTANY, THE CISCO FAMILY CHAT BAR COMPANY, AND EVERYONE ELSE.
I'M PROUD TO WORK FOR UPPER PROVIDENCE TOWNSHIP AND KNOWING THAT WE HAD YOUR SUPPORT MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
WE'VE GOT A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED THIS THURSDAY, RIGHT, TIM? YEAH, I'LL BE GETTING OUT AN AGENDA FOR THIS THURSDAY, THIS THURSDAY AT SIX, WE ALREADY HAVE OUR THINGS SET UP BACK THERE.
UH, THIS THURSDAY WE'LL BE, UM, OUR RESCHEDULED MEETING WITH, UH, OUR FIRE AND EMS. AND NEXT THURSDAY WE'LL BE MEETING WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
[CONSULTANT REPORTS]
ANYTHING FROM A TOWNSHIP ENGINEER, JUST THE ROAD PROJECT, UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING ISSUING A NOTICE TO PROCEED EARLY MAY AND WITH THE GOAL TO HAVE ALL THE ROADS PAID BY AUGUST 1ST.UH, MONTHLY ESCROW REVIEW LIST.
I'M GOING TO SPEAK IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU HAVE A LETTER AMOUNT FOR ME DETAILING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE RELEASED FROM THE SHEPHERD ESCROW, WHICH IS ON HOLLOW ROAD AND OXFORD LI A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AT 3 95 GREENWOOD AVENUE.
UH, SIR, ARE YOU A BUSY, OKAY, GREAT
[SUPERVISORS COMMENTS]
TO ROGER'S COMMENTS.I JUST HAVE TWO BOOKS FROM THAT I'VE LISTENED TO THE MOST RECENTLY.
AND ONE IS, THERE'S NOTHING FOR YOU HERE BY FIONA HILL.
CHERYL, I'LL EMAIL YOU THEN THIS, UH, AND LESSONS FROM THE EDGE BY MARIA EVANOVICH.
[UPCOMING EVENTS ]
WE'VE GOT SOME UPCOMING EVENTS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETINGS MAY 16 AND JUNE 20TH BEAR NEXT TO REGULAR MEETINGS.UH, PLANNING COMMISSION HAS CANCELED THIS WEEK AND WE'LL BE MEETING.
IT LOOKS LIKE MAY 4TH, PARKS AND RECREATION.
UH, COMMITTEE MEETS, UH, MAY 11TH, UM, MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY, JUNE 2ND, ZONING HEARING BOARD HAS TWO HEARINGS SCHEDULED APRIL 19TH AND APRIL 26.
AND IF THERE'S NO MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.