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[REORGANIZATION ]
UM, ORDER OF BUSINESS SINCE THIS IS A NEW YEAR IS A REORGANIZATION.UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TRADITIONALLY APPOINTS A CHAIRMAN OF VICE CHAIRMAN AND A SECRETARY.
UH, SO TO START OUT, ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS OR WE WILL, UH, CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF TOM WRIGHT BEING CHAIRMAN'S, UH, SAY I POSED GRADUATIONS.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER, DO YOU WANT ME TO, OKAY.
SO, UH, ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN? I BOB HEIST.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? WELL, I JUST STATED IT'S A BUSY JOB.
DO YOU GET PAID ONE SAME, THE SAME PAY RATE YOU GET? SO, UM, ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL CLOSE NOMINATIONS ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AND THEN SECRETARY, ANY NOMINATIONS FOR SECRETARY? UM, ALL RIGHT.
NICOLE LEDEEN AS, UM, SECRETARY, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED OR CONGRATULATIONS, OR WITH THAT? I CAN TURN THE GAVEL OVER TO OUR, YEAH, I'LL GIVE
[CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL ]
YOU THE ROLL CALL THEN.WELL, I THINK WE CAN SINCE WELL, BOB GUMS WAS HERE TOO.
WE ARE, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE WILL BE A NOMINATION COMING AT THE, UH, JANUARY 19TH MEETING, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD WILL DO WHAT THE BOARD WILL DO.
UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC TURNER ON AGENDA, A BIG AGENDA THAT LIGHTS THERE'S
[GENERAL DISCUSSION ITEMS]
NO ONE MOVE TO OUR, UH, UH, GET INTO FOR THE SEAT.FIRST THING WOULD BE THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 3RD, CORRECT? UH, GOOD ONE.
APPROVE THE, OR GIVE ME A ALL IN FAVOR.
WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 3RD.
JEFF, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ADDITION TO 1 44 JACOBS.
ANYBODY HERE? NO, I DIDN'T ASK ANYBODY TO COME.
THIS IS AGAIN A ZONING HEARING BOARD APPLICATION FOR, UM, CONSTRUCTION IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN.
UM, UH, BUT THE PLAN REAL QUICK FOR YOU, UM, IT'S IS FOR A PROPERTY ON JACOB'S STREET.
THE GENTLEMAN IS LOOKING TO BUILD A, UM, AN ADDITION TO THE BACK OF HIS HOUSE.
TAKE A WHILE TO GET DOWN TO THAT LAST PAGE DOING WELL.
TECHNICALLY HE STARTED, WE HAD TO TELL HIM TO STOP.
SO SORRY, YOU SAID ASK HIM TO STOP BECAUSE THE PICTURE OF IT.
YEAH, HE'S HE, HE SAYS HE'S REPLACING ONE THAT WAS THERE, BUT THE ONE THAT WAS THERE, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE, BUT WITH THE HEIGHTENED SENSITIVITY DOWN THE, IN THE, IN THE FLOODPLAIN, WE'VE TOLD HIM BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE, BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THE HOUSE, HE'S GOT TO COME IN AND GET A VARIANCE FOR IT.
PART OF THAT VARIANCE REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAY, IF THEY WANT TO WEIGH IN, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO WEIGH IN, UM, AGAIN, HE'S REALLY JUST THE PICTURES.
AREN'T GREAT, BUT HE'S MATCHING UP TO THE BACK OF THAT HOUSE NEXT TO HIM.
HIS, AND THIS IS ALSO A WAY FROM THE FLOOD AWAY FROM THE CREEK.
IT'S, HE'S NOT BUILDING TOWARDS THE CREEK OR TOWARDS THE RIVER AT THIS PORTION.
HE'S BUILDING AWAY FROM THE CREEK.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING EXISTING CONDITION.
AND, UM, HE'S GONNA FLOOD PROOF THE BACK PORTION, THIS PORTION.
UM, AND HE'S PUT THAT IN, IN THE PLANS
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THAT WITH THIS, HE'LL HAVE SOME, UH, IT'LL BE ABOVE THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.YOUR ROLE IS TO DECIDE IF YOU'RE GOING TO, UM, OFFER ANY COMMENTARY OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND THE SOLICITOR GO TO OPPOSE OR TO, UM, PUT AN OPINION IN ON THIS.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S BILL THOSE GUYS LOOK AT IT, OR YEAH, BILL HAS TO, BILL HAS WEIGHED IN ON IT AND, UM, I'LL, WON'T SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT I SEE NO ISSUES, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS FOR THAT WHATSOEVER.
AND THAT'S NOT A FEMA THING, THIS IS NOT A FEVER.
WELL, FROM A FEMA STANDPOINT, HE, WE WILL HAVE TO TRACK HOW MUCH THIS IMPROVEMENT COSTS AND HOW MUCH THAT COMPARISON TO THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE.
AND HE WILL HIT A POINT TO WHERE HE WILL, IF HE TRIES TO PUT MORE THAN 50% OF THE VALUE BACK INTO THE HOUSE, HE'S GOT AN ELEVATE THE HOUSE OR ASK FOR A VARIANCE.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE VARIANCES HE'S ASKING FOR, IS TO BE, IS TO BE RELIEVED FROM THAT CONDITION BECAUSE THE COST OF THIS IMPROVEMENT WOULD PUT HIM ABOVE 50% OF THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE, BUT HE'S ALSO A TWIN.
SO RAISING THE HOUSES IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CHALLENGE THAN IT WOULD BE IF IT'S JUST A REGULAR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
HIS SON FROM TO MY UNDERSTANDING OWNS THE OTHER HALF.
NO, HE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
AND IT PUTTING UP THE UTILITIES, I SAW GETTING THEM ONTO THE HIGHER FLOORS, TRYING TO MEET AS MANY OF THE THINGS AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
UM, SO HIS, HIS ARGUMENT IN THE APPLICATION IS ESSENTIALLY THAT SINCE THE PROPERTY WAS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE AND DUE TO RECENT FLOODING THAT A LOT OF THAT RENOVATION WORK TO GET IT UP TO PAR IS WHY IT'S COSTING OVER THE 50%.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S TRUE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S AN ARGUMENT THAT SENDS THE APPLICATION.
THE BASICALLY BRING IT BACK TO LIVERPOOL AND THEN PUT THE ADDITIONAL ONE IN AND MAKE IT BETTER.
SO ALL THAT IS EXCEEDING THE 50%.
WELL, SO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, THEY BUILD THINGS.
IF I COULD JUST SAY IT IS UNIQUE THAN THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THE FLOODING AND I DON'T MEAN YOU NEED, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THEY WERE ALREADY INVOLVED WITH, UH, RENOVATIONS AND YEAH.
HE HAD STARTED PRIOR TO THE FLOODING.
I DON'T SEE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
AS LONG AS THERE'S SOME THINGS TO PROTECT THEM, THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT TO TRY TO AT LEAST COME INTO LINES WITH SOME OF THE FEMA REQUIREMENTS OR USING UTILITY.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT THERE? I SECOND GILLY SECOND.
JUST ASK THE PUBLIC, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THAT MOTION.
UM, IF WE HAVE NO OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS, I THINK A VOTE, THEN MOVE THIS ALONG.
IS THAT WHAT WE DO? NO, NO, NO ACTION.
WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM.
MOVE IT TO WHATEVER PROCESS DOWN THE ROAD.
ALL FAVOR THAT, OH, IT'S PAST NO ACTION AND MOVE IT TO WHATEVER CORRECT.
THEY JUST, FOR THE RECORD, IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR THE ZONING HEARING BOARD ON JANUARY 11TH.
SO A WEEK FROM YESTERDAY, RIGHT? NO, BUT IF ANYBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE OR ANYBODY LISTENING IN WANTS TO GO TO MEETINGS AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, WE'LL HAVE THE REORGANIZATION FIRST, LIKE WE DID, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THEIR REGULAR MEETINGS.
THE OTHER ROUTER THAT WAS AT THE TENANT OF THE, ON THE AGENDA WAS REMOVED.
IT WAS REMOVED A COUPLE DAYS AGO.
THE APPLICANT ASKED TO BE REMOVED AND A PROPERTY OWNERS LOOKING TO USE THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT.
ORDINANCE WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
BUT THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AND SOME OTHER TWEAKS TO IT.
SO HE'S COMING IN TO SEE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S IN FAVOR OF MOVING THAT FORWARD, NOT IN FAVOR OF THE CHANGES NECESSARILY, BUT IF THEY'RE COMFORTABLE MOVING THAT FORWARD AT THIS POINT, AND THEN I SEE
[APPLICATIONS PENDING REVIEW: DATE FOR DISCUSSION TO BE DETERMINED ]
A LOT OF PENDING THINGS, BUT RIGHT NOW, NONE OF THE MORNING, EIGHT AGENDA, EVEN FOR THE NEXT MEETING.[00:10:01]
THE, THE ONLY THING THAT, UM, ACTUALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, MOVING ONTO THE NEXT MEANS, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING PENDING FOR JANUARY, FOR THE SECOND MEETING.SO IF YOU WANT TO CANCEL THAT WE CAN FOR FEBRUARY, THAT'S WHEN, UM, THE SELECT PROPERTIES WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO.
UM, SO WE CAN HAVE THEM ON THAT AGENDA AND PROBABLY THERE'S AN AUTO ZONE, CONDITIONAL USE AND TENTATIVE PLAN THAT THEY HAD TWEAKED THE PLAN A LITTLE BIT.
AND I HAD JUST GOTTEN IT THIS AFTERNOON.
I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH TIME TO TREVOR TO HAVE EVERYBODY REVIEW IT.
UM, AND WE CAN HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA, UM, KODAK, AND NUMBER TWO, THEY ACTUALLY, I'M WAITING FOR THE WITHDRAWAL LETTER FROM THEM.
THEY, THEY ARE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT CAN'T BE SUBDIVIDED AS DEED RESTRICTED.
WE DIDN'T REALIZE THIS BILL CAUGHT IT.
AND SO WE'RE, I'M IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT REFUNDING THE APPLICATION FEE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE LETTER TO OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWAL YET.
SO IT STAYS ON HERE AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FINAL PLAN OR TWO JUST TO KIND OF KICK THEM OFF THE, THE, UH, THE LIST.
SO WE COULD DO THAT IN FEBRUARY.
IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WE HAVE A PROBLEM CANCELING THE 19TH.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION ON THAT OR IS THAT JUST, YES.
I NEED A MOTION TO CANCEL THEM.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO BOTH MAKE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE MEETING ON THE 19TH.
BOB IS SECONDARY IN THE GRIP OF THE PUBLIC ON THAT TOPIC.
WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, CANCELING THE 19TH OF JANUARY AND MOVING IT TO FEBRUARY 2ND.
THAT'S PAST NO MEETING ON THE 19TH EX EVERMORE RESPECT.
[FUTURE AGENDA DISCUSSION: Next meeting: January 19, 2022 ]
AND I WILL WORK OUT THE AGENDA WITH THAT.I'LL TRY TO GET SOMETHING OUT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE RECEIVED TWO APPLICATIONS IN THE LAST WEEK, A TOLL BROTHERS, FULLY TRACKED THEY'VE PUT IN THEIR PRELIMINARY PLAN.
WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR THAT PLAN? AND THEN I, THE REHAB, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THE TEST TO DANCE WHERE THEY WENT IN FOR A CONDITIONAL USE.
THE LAST QUARTER OF THAT BUILDING LAST 25% OF THAT BUILDING IVY REHAB IS LOOKING TO GO IN THERE AND THEY NEED A CONDITIONAL USE.
SO WE'LL HAVE THEM ACTUALLY, WE COULD PROBABLY HAVE THEM ON THE SECOND BECAUSE IT'S A FAIRLY SIMPLE APPLICATION.
I DON'T EVEN THINK THERE'S ANY ENGINEERING OR TRANSPORTATION COMMENTS.
SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THEM ON THE SECOND AS WELL.
AND THEN THAT WAY THEY CAN GET THEIR CONDITIONAL USE HEARING LINED UP AND OUT OF THE WAY IT IS A PHYSICAL REHAB.
I WAS CONFUSED FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT YES, IT'S, IT'S, UH, ACTUALLY ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION, THIS IS FOCUSING ON JUST REHAB FOR KIDS, BUT I'LL LET THEM EXPLAIN KIDS.
THE NEXT MEETING AND AGENDA IS TO FOLLOW UP ONE THING WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT.
JEFF'S GOING TO BE GETTING, UH, LOOKING INTO DOING SOME TRAINING FOR US ONLINE STUFF RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE EASIEST TO DO SEMINARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ONLINE.
IF WE CAN FIND SOME TIME, UH, LET'S TALK HIM THROUGH A PAULINE PFIZER'S AT THE CHRISTMAS, BURNING IT.
NOW THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA.
MAYBE THAT NOBODY RIDES EVERYBODY GETS ME.
HOLD ON TWO HOURS OF TRAINING WOULD BE A BAD IDEA, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TRANSPARENT FOR SURE.
BUT WITH THAT, I GUESS THAT'S NOT YET.
WE'RE ABOUT 15, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL CALL THIS THE MODERN RECORD.
WE'LL CALL THIS THE MODERN RECORD.
HOW ABOUT THAT? NO, I NEED A MOTION TO CANCEL IT AROUND THROUGH JOURNALISTS MAKING OFFER A MOTION.
SECOND, ANY NUMBER OF PUBLIC ON THAT? NOTHING.
SO ALL FAVOR, POST THE JOURNEY AND MOVING ON, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU GOT, THANK YOU.